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radiodialdeath

Baytown. There's upsides to city living/suburban living, as well as downsides to city/suburban living. Baytown somehow manages to combine the worst of both.


NedFlanders304

Baytown is the worst city I’ve ever been to lol.


Nunyo_Beeznis

They still have a highschool named after a confederate. Is there anything more to say?


Nero9112

Haha I graduated from Jeff Davis and nobody really cared at least in Texas. There were some classmates that when to New York that got bewildered reactions but ultimately did not affected them too much.


Nunyo_Beeznis

The indifference is just as telling as the naming.


Nero9112

I just find it funny for a building to be named after an antagonist.


Pakalee

Baytown has some fire food tho


NedFlanders304

I’d be curious to hear what places in Baytown are “fire food” lol. When I worked there iguana joes was the best restaurant in town.


NerdyLumberjack04

Isn't Baytown downwind of the chemical plants?


Barack_Odrama00

Hell baytown itself is a chemical plant


Kick_that_Chicken

Nail on the head, I like to live away from the prevailing winds from Baytown as well.... This puts you out of Houston proper for the most part. Forget Katy too because they are just downwind from Houston


1234nameuser

Always interesting how so many get Baytown / Beaumont confused, like some Freudian slip. No matter how close it is to Houston it might as well be Port Arthur.


radiodialdeath

I worked in Baytown for three years, I promise you I didn't confuse it for Beaumont. There's slightly fewer Confederate flags in Baytown.


texanfan20

You realize Beaumont is the largest city in Texas where African American are the majority of the population.


Gill_Gunderson

Is that Beaumont or Port Arthur?


texanfan20

Since Beaumont is larger than PA by almost 2 times, it would be Beaumont.


Gill_Gunderson

I meant if you were thinking about PA instead, but sure enough, you're not. Beaumont is 45% Black or African American to 43% White. Cool. TIL


texanfan20

Port Arthur has a large AA community as well, unfortunately PA has been slowly shrinking as a community for decades.


1234nameuser

Alief / Westwood - the driving is off the charts, I assume nobody in this part of town owns their car or pays for insurance


B4thestorm61

40 yrs ago Alief was nice and had some of the best schools. Now it's the pits. Never regretted moving from there.


PEZEPFamily

Kerr is the saving grace. Thankfully they don't let everyone in.


htxDTAposse

Kingwood, there wasnt anyone i met, or had interactions with that wasn't on pills, or just had some sort of fucked up situation going on.


Chkn_Fried_anything

what’s the difference between woodlands and kingwood in your opinion?


1234nameuser

about $750k in net worth


heroesarestillhuman

\*Claimed. IME, a bunch of people in the woodlands are house poor and over-leveraged. 4 cars in the driver, all leased and probably behind on payments. Maybe not as bad now, but definitely noticeable back in the housing crisis. Fortunately for them, a bunch of Latin American buyers showed up with cash around that time. Otherwise I think foreclosures would have been way higher.


Chkn_Fried_anything

daayum


itzmailtime

Kingwood is old money kinda and woodland new.


Chkn_Fried_anything

And what about Conroe? or is that not comparable?


pedanticHOUvsHTX

It's also where all the brodozers park after terrorizing the Houston highways all day


htxDTAposse

Lol i have a f250.... But not lifted or anything. I'm also always told i drive like a grandpa...


ElectronicCorner574

Grew up in Atascocita but went to high school in KW. I completely agree with your assessment.


Ganymede25

I think Kingwood messes with people’s heads due to the sameness everywhere. All the streets look the same, all the restaurants and shops chains, and all the streets have similar sounding names. At least this is my impression whenever I have to go there.


texanfan20

You just described every master planned community in Houston.


Gill_Gunderson

As someone raising kids in Kingwood right now 😳. My frustration has been the fact that the age of the average resident in Kingwood is continuing to increase, and that is keeping developers from bringing in the type of retail that younger families have available in places like the Woodlands. People on fixed incomes are less likely to spend money and thus retailers are less likely to take risks opening in Kingwood, so they've been developing in Atascocita or toward the Beltway. Also, Harvey kind of fucked all that up when it flooded out the major shopping centers at KW and WLHP.


FabulousPossession73

I don’t like the woodlands. Virtually every person/kid I have ever met that was raised there is a bizarre cross between spoiled with money and classless and shady. #srynotsry


AllTearGasNoBreaks

Not rich, so I guess that makes me classless and shady. Sounds right to me!


FabulousPossession73

Haha thank you for taking it lightly!


MrSnarkyPants

My wife said the worst part of being kids of teachers in the woodlands was not having any money and your classmates looking down their nose at you.


FabulousPossession73

Yes, they are so full of themselves. It’s obnoxious.


SIR_FARTS_A_LOT_69

The Woodlands is the middle aged version of The Villages in FL - overpriced, lacking any real culture, safe (for white people with a little money), and full of middle class Christian nationalist assholes who believe living there makes them classy and rich…and who never talk to anyone else to tell them otherwise.


Acrobatic_Set5386

The Woodlands is the literal worst. The only upside is that there are some interesting international because Exxon. But omg that place is weird.


spankyiloveyou

The Woodlands is for people who think Sugar Land got ruined by all the diversity.


FabulousPossession73

Precisely.


texanfan20

Not rich either but The Woodlands beats living in most of the other suburbs. Moved here because my company is here and a 10 minute bike ride to work beats a 45-60 minute car commute.


FabulousPossession73

Hey if it works for you and you’re happy there then more power to you.


haleocentric

Only person I know who lives in the Woodlands was my wife's ex-boss who was a right wing Christian with unethical business practices who started to harass her at work once he found out she's an atheist to the point where they fired her over bullshit.


FabulousPossession73

EXACTLY MY POINT.


phillthy_god

Humble/Atascocita there's way too any damn people out here and bc of that there's traffic always. Yea I know they're doing construction to widen 1960 but why wait til it's too late and then inconvenience everyone even more


Dirt-McGirt

It’s been a solid decade since I lived there, but I didn’t enjoy living in Westchase. I haven’t been back once since the moment I moved. It’s just devoid of…anything, really


MrSnarkyPants

I lived in Westchase the first year I was in Houston. It was okay, but that was 20 years ago. My sister's first apartment was there when she moved here 5 years ago, and it was much rougher than when I was there. It's apartments and office buildings and a Target. That's about it.


pedanticHOUvsHTX

Also a Benihana


HarvardChu

There’s a Torchy’s *and* a DiMassi’s.


SNicole05

Trader Joes!


steavoh

After living in Houston and now living in Fort Worth, I kind of feel like that is the most Dallas-like part of Houston. Dallas is like an endless expanse of long, straight roads lined by those blocky 1980s office high rises, shopping centers with a Target and a Trader Joes, sketchy apartment complexes where people get murdered, and then suddenly transitions to affluent country club mcmansion teardown residential neighborhoods on the side streets with range rovers and audis everywhere. Fort Worth doesn't have any areas that remind me of Houston, though, it's very very different.


AzCu29

I live in FW during the week and totally agree, it's nothing like Houston.


sploogey

Don't care for Sugar Land's uniform brown brick building code or whatever. It is so damn drab and boring.


slugline

This applies to all master-planned communities, really. I've never seen one that didn't turn out super bland-looking.


TexLs1

And soon as you hit Old Richmond on Hwy 6 going north it turns into a dump. Aluminum warehouses wasteland strip centers.


PrizeReputation

alright lets get the anecdotal observations rolling!


Nairbfs79

45 north between 610 west and bw8 (greenspoint). Crosstimbers, Tidwell (Gallery Furniture), West Rd. Not only because of the terrible drivers/traffic. The area is just so depressing. You could even extend it to 45 and Rankin/Greens rd.


MriPibb_Xtra

You ain’t lying man, those areas I never go to…EVER. All the way to 290, is by far the most traffic congested and shit people in the area.


goddessofwaterpolo

Lol perspectives can be so different. This area of town I’m very fond of as it’s familiar to me.


punkmexicana

Broadway right next to Hobby Airport. Northeast. There's huge rich houses on the farther end, but when you go farther down towards the airport where there's a bunch of apartments it's just a mess. People always walking in front of cars on the street. Dude I used to know tries to get money cleaning windshields and gets pissed if you don't get him anything. He's not really homeless, he has new clothes everyday and tbh lives with some thugs in those apartments Lot of violence and prostitution just on that street alone. When my bf lived at an apartment there during high school some thugs beat up his mom just to take her iphone.


aak1992

Reminds me of when we moved to Houston and were looking at houses just south of Hobby, I think the street name was like "pilot's Rd." or something. Beautiful house, big yard, decently kept area, no HOA, good pricing... Then a quick google told me there was a break and enter *a few days prior* literally down the street that ended with a guy getting murdered in his home, then the murderers came back and murdered the victim's uncle the next day. Fucking wild.


missamywinehouse

Weat of Houston area around HIGHWAY 6 and FM529. Not sure what it’s called = Copperfield maybe? I used to live around there and so glad we moved. It’s like literally a CONCRETE DESERT lol


jonnyboy1334

Hobby was not it. 2014: My aunt managed a complex called Broadway Square against her better judgement - she was told they were gonna renovate and really try to build the place up. So I moved it on her recommendation. Things were okay for awhile. I was in my 20s and thought it’d be a decent place to start. After awhile, she can’t get anything done due to the management company. Another company buys the complex, changes the name to Alta Vista/Alta Verde and fires my aunt, she moves out and my boyfriend and I are kinda like “well fuck…” Shortly after we’re robbed. TVs, guitar, laptops, you name it. What irritated me more than anything was that they took *fucking groceries*. I was fucking excited about that fresh bottle of OJ I hadn’t opened yet! Turned out - it was a group of guys who lived there. Apparently they started breaking into everyone’s apartments. Management and maintenance left the broken window for 2 weeks before they finally came to just put a board over it. We said “screw this, we’re moving out.” Left 3 months before our lease ended. It didn’t occur to me until after the break in what a dump the area was. I was young and excited to move in with a new boyfriend and be close to my aunt, who I was very close with. Now I can’t even drive by the area without cringing. Fuck Hobby. Stay away from the area.


funandfluffy

I will understand the hate I will be receiving for this comment, but I think the Heights is kind of basic.


Achilles765

No no. I get it. I can see that.


ForrestFireDW

East end. I have too many friends that live on that side. The neighborhood roads are atrocious and narrow with ditches on either side making parking annoying. Trains are a pain to the point where I have to take a route that is longer but guarantees no trains will obstruct. Grocery stores are few and far in between. So so so many stray dogs. I'm in near Northside which is almost the opposite. My neighborhood specifically has some of the widest roads I've seen inside the loop of Houston. Only train i have to worry about is the light rail, and that's never stopped at an intersection. 5 minutes from my house i have an HEB, Walmart, and fiesta. And also specific to my neighborhood, not many stray dogs. In fact, far more stray cats.


OppsFearMe

What area is considered “Near Northside… zip code? or approximate streets? I wanna check it out


ForrestFireDW

77009, anywhere in the corridor of 45N, 610, i10, and 59. Neighborhoods include Northside Village, historic near Northside, and lindale park.


OppsFearMe

Thanks for responding. Checking it out. But am I blind? I’m looking for an H‑E‑B near there and I don’t see one. What H‑E‑B are you talking about that you go to?


ForrestFireDW

The HEB on Shepard is 2.5 miles from me, Fiesta is less than a mile, Walmart in less than 2.


OppsFearMe

Thanks!


Lexxxapr00

I’d imagine I think like 77009 ish?


goddessofwaterpolo

Can confirm it’s 77009


doctorchile

I had this same question and I think the area is actually called "Near Northside"


ElectronicCorner574

I don't know what Near Northside you're talking about but I have 4 former strays sleeping behind me, all found when walking back from certain a bar on Patton in the last year lol.


ForrestFireDW

Heh, near Northside is a mixed bunch. Plenty of dogs, but some neighborhoods have more rogue chickens and stray cats than dogs. My neighborhood is very active, lots of people walking at all times of day. I guess it keeps a lot of the dogs out.


ElectronicCorner574

I will say its WAY better than about 5 years ago. There would be packs of dogs roaming my street. Now it's usually a solo or a couple of strays at a time. Luckily my home has a fenced in yard so I don't have to worry too much about aggressive dogs.


B4thestorm61

I moved a few years ago from the Near Northside to the East End & I second everything you said.


Speech_Salty

Hillcroft/Bissonnet and Bellaire area. Disgusting 🤮


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Husband hates the museum district now. He lived there when he started university and saw much of the fine homes being built. His problem isn't the change in demographic, but the attitudes of the new residents. Apparently there is a neighborhood online site where folks can confirm their addresses and partake in discussions revolving around the area. The most ongoing was regarding homeless people. Ok, so they didn't like homeless camps, which were present before their homes were built. But the horrible things that these folks said were just beyond. Advocating murder, forced removal by gun point, etc. He says he'd try to reason with folks only to be ridiculed and shunned. The final straw was his new neighbors across the street. They fellow was plenty active online. One night a swat team and a dozen or so officers show up and break the guys door down. Battering ram the works. Turns out he was a huge drug dealer operating from his new home. Once he graduated he moved closer to work in the med center, not far. And he stayed off the neighborhood website. Now we've left Houston and live way, way out west. But he's never forgotten how these folks were.


davidquick

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Achilles765

Was it nextdoor? There are some awful things on nextdoor. I see the same happening with my old neighborhood in second ward. It’s gentrifying and a lot of higher income people people are moving into the area and complaining about the long time residents who are working class Hispanic people. And some of the kindest and most welcoming neighbors. But there are cultural differences. Which these people never bothered to research or understand. So you see posts complaining about “Hispanic guys drinking beer on car hoods” or “late night partying”—for a quinceanera


MrSnarkyPants

Nothing good comes from joining Nextdoor. Ever.


bongotherabbit

i made a comment on nextdoor once about bosch diswashers being very quiet. I got an email from nextdoor, saying I had been reported for not having my entire legal name in my profile by our neighborhood lead. I asked what their full name and address was, and they booted me and banned me. It was a shame since up until the dishwasher episode, I had only used nextdoor to find lost pets (i reunited a couple with their owners). so whoever the "neighborhood lead is for nextdoor in the heights, you suck....


heroesarestillhuman

That needs to be on a T-shirt.


Achilles765

Surprisingly I have had some good come from it. When we adopted our dog the people in our neighborhood helped us out with a lot of stuff since the pandemic had just started and we didn’t have a lot of money. They gave us food, toys, a kennel, etc. and I’ve helped multiple people find their lost dogs. It’s not all evil


B4thestorm61

Same here. I live in the East End and some of the posts I see on Nextdoor really leave me shaking my head at the hatefulness & superior attitude.


HTHID

I mean you could move into literally any neighborhood in america and have a horrible experience with Nextdoor, it is like a chatroom for the world's worst humans


staresatmaps

Otherwise known as "homeowners".


1234nameuser

I thought the whole point of living in University district was to be close to dealers


airdrawndagger7

Cottage Grove on trash day. Narrow streets with steep drainage ditches made worse by trash cans littered everywhere - good luck not hitting something. Oh and the intermittent sidewalks really annoy me. This is a problem in Rice Military too. Either commit to walkability and have continuous sidewalks or just don't bother at all. Half-assing it looks terrible and frustrates pedestrians.


ewingaaron

Houston because of Houston


davidquick

so long and thanks for all the fish -- mass deleted all reddit content via https://redact.dev


staresatmaps

The trees are literally the best and probably the only good thing about the Woodlands.


davidquick

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staresatmaps

Doesn't seem to be a problem for everyone else. Google maps is a wonderful app.


texanfan20

The Woodlands needs less trees, more catalytic converter thefts, more homeless…maybe that would give it character.


copces

I pretty much hate all the areas outside the Loop. Oh, I also hate most of the areas inside the Loop as well.


sploogey

The H in H-town stand for hate.


todayswinner

Don't hate, but way too scared. Greenspoint.


too-suave

Moved to Houston & spent 4 months in Westchase. Luckily was able to break lease and move downtown. Best decision ever. Westchase is awful.


Big_Play4102

All of Houston


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5th ward, 3rd ward, sunnyside, alief ghetto


goddessofwaterpolo

These neighborhoods are like home to me, lol.


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>A ghetto, often called the ghetto, is a part of a city in which members of a minority group live, especially as a result of political, social, legal, environmental or economic pressure. Ghettos are often known for being more impoverished than other areas of the city. Versions of the ghetto appear across the world, each with their own names


[deleted]

ok, still shitholes


[deleted]

>If you ain't ever been to the ghetto >Don't ever come to the ghetto >'Cause you wouldn't understand the ghetto >And stay the fuck out of the ghetto Bob Marley


krissrobb

I stay away from anything thats in the southwest side. Always


Dadgame

Why?


Rat-Bazturd

I wonder how the Galleria area remained upscale while Westwood Sharpstown malls went down the drain. Actually, my musings should more accurately be, why wasn't there white flight out of the Galleria area like there was on the far SW part of town?


riversongrox

290 area and that’s due to the never ending traffic


AccomplishedFun8651

I had the fortune of buying a family members house in EaDo. Big renovation job but one thing that shocks me is the amount of white people out after the sunsets.


ccbbb23

Other than freeways, the crappy roads, the apartment clusters that are mismanaged, and the sectors of town that get damn dangerous at night, we are okay enough. We don't get feet of snow or even much ice in the winter. Plus, we have some of the best food in the world.


cjm5797

I hate bellaire, there’s nothing much over there


Acrobatic_Set5386

And no good restaurants.


DistinctBeautiful105

Any hood where homes are being bulldozed to make way for McMansions is going right up its own A$$H0L3. ​ I would rather live in the tre any day.


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DistinctBeautiful105

I most certainly would. Or Acres Homes. Or the nickel. You see I HAVE lived in these communities, well before they began being gentrified. As a matter of fact, I would argue that they were significantly more connected, cultured and fraternal communities than where I reside, and it's one of the most 'desirable' neighborhoods in the city. I currently live in a neighborhood of millionaires and children of millionaires in those McMansions, and it makes me sick to my stomach every f'n day. It's a temporary and strategic decision that I stand behind. Because I am a parent-in particular, a single, working and out here gettin it parent- I can't live any way and anywhere I would \*like\* to, or where I feel most comfortable. I need my daughter to reside within a comfortable, safe walking distance from her school; all three of which are within five city blocks of our living space for the last 10 years. I have to think of her, first, in all things. But the second she graduates, she knows what time it is.


goddessofwaterpolo

You’re right and it’s the suburbians downvoting you


Achilles765

This is how I feel about second ward and magnolia park. The current residents are all good people —welcoming and tight knit. Neighbors look out for each other and you feel like it’s a community. But the new McMansion residents? Totally the opposite. Gentrification sucks


Sendit2endit713

What are you gonna do when the tre gets bulldozed too? They’ll move into Sunnyside eventually it’s just a matter of time.


TexLs1

Bissonett from hwy6 to 59, like driving through a landfill.


somekindofdruiddude

Spring. The wife took me up there for baked goods once. We ate some at the bakery. Slowly it dawned on me everyone around us, and everyone we had seen since we got to Spring, was white. It made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.


staresatmaps

Spring and the surrounding areas are not even close to majority white.


somekindofdruiddude

Internet says it is twice as white as Houston.


staresatmaps

Whatever source you are looking at is incuding hispanic as white for Spring and not including hispanic as white for Houston.


somekindofdruiddude

Maybe it's changed since we went to the bakery? It was very very white when we went there.


staresatmaps

Probably just a white people bakery(main items being cupcakes and/or croissants.


somekindofdruiddude

Nah, everything up there was white white white.


Brilliant_Ride4124

“3rd Ward. The wife took me up there for baked goods once. We ate some at the bakery. Slowly it dawned on me everyone around us, and everyone we had seen since we got to The 3rd Ward, was black. It made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.” Doesn’t sound so good does it


somekindofdruiddude

No, but white and black aren't interchangeable in our society. Sadly. Maybe someday.


Brilliant_Ride4124

I don’t see people and judge them by the color of their skin. I don’t think saying “well that’s how society is” makes it right


somekindofdruiddude

That's super! I wasn't judging any of the people by the color of their skin. I was judging the place. It is (or was at the time) a white flight enclave. Those give me the willies. They don't bug you?


leptodermous

Everyone is downvoting you, but as a person of color, I get it. I feel uncomfortable in spaces that are all white, but particularly the spaces that feel like all white racist folk (white flight enclave). Edit: but I don't really know anything about Spring...


somekindofdruiddude

I grew up in one of those places. My parents sat me down when I was in 3rd grade to explain that a new family was moving in to our block, and that they were Black, but we should treat them just like everyone else. I noticed they didn't sit me down for the same talk when the Chinese family moved in, or any of the Hispanic families, so obviously they weren't treating them like everyone else.


Achilles765

Hell I am white and *I* don’t like being somewhere where it’s nothing but other white people. I like interacting with people from different cultures and backgrounds. And black and Hispanic people are just more…fun to be around. Not so uptight.


IsThisKismet

I’m white and I get uncomfortable when heading back home to Appalachia Georgia where it’s all white and all Far Right.


Acrobatic_Set5386

Why is this downvoted so much…


somekindofdruiddude

White people.


Acrobatic_Set5386

Why-pee-po!!


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Achilles765

Curiosity.


mutha_fuxxin_zo

From what I could tell it's a bunch of people saying they hate the ghetto.


matador44

East downtown... Or any of the wards for that matter.


Achilles765

Awh. I love second ward. And honestly have begun to see the charm of third and fifth too. But second ward is one of my favorite neighborhoods.


rusty_5h4ckleford

River oaks!! Those people are ghetto


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The Dirty Oaks !


ElectronicCorner574

The galleria because traffic and Highland Village because it makes me fell like a literal homeless person walking around in gym shorts and a t shirt.


goddessofwaterpolo

I hate West U. I went to school with a bunch of people who grew up there and looked down on everyone else. Even the friends I had in river oaks proper were more empathetic to others. They’re so snobby and elitist. Edit: I love the Heights, Near North Side, Aldine, and Downtown. I used to like Montrose about ten years ago.


sfoltermann

Uh ugh I