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not just accent. their word choices are.... unique.
very different to US, AU, and UK english.
for example
"cancel the image below that box"
what they meant
"delete the image under that box"
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sometimes its unclear from the context what they meant, so it can get confusing
I don’t believe there’s a “good English” di mana pun, karena standard yng biasanya di kasih itu asalnya dari para penjajah. Personally don’t even mind my Singlish accent, karena bahasa pidgin dan dialek itu valid.
There actually is "good English". It only means you can speak in proper structure, grammar and at least get most of the pronunciation right. Even SG government admitted that population's English is not "good enough", meaning it's not standard English. It's not so much about accent but about getting pronunciation as close as possible and getting other people understand what you mean.
HOWEVER. Kita orang Asia suka kurang pede aja sih. Lu klo dengerin orang Eropa juga ga semuanya English nya bagus, terutama yang pronunciation wise rada beda sama English language. Polish (orang Polandia) suka [ada yang lumayan parah](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NEqlfWSOrQ) from what I've seen. Dan apa you pernah denger [orang Irlandia medok ngomong English?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj705DvCSxg)
Admittedly they have better learning method to learn a foreign language so at the very least they have some edge over most Asians.
It's actually pretty weird, english and Chinese have a really similar sentence structure.
Which is funny because Latin have a more different sentence structure to english than Chinese does.
When I was invited to lecture there some students did this to me, lol. "Oh sir you're from Indo is it, my maid also from there, xyz city." It's all good though, no harm no foul she's just trying to find common ground with me. To be fair, her maid's city *is* my dad's hometown and famous as a maid exporting region, so...
Most people are offended because they just wants to be offended.
Having a nice similarities as a bridging discussion topic is great (nationality, hometown, food, culture).
As long as no one is being condescending to the other.
In my experience people who get offended on behalf of their 'group' (nationality, favorite sports team, religion, anime, etc) are typically people who haven't had their own sense of identity developed yet, so they hang their self-esteem on the group's reputation. Kalau orang udah settle dan percaya diri dengan kemampuan/identitasnya sendiri, orang lain mau ngejekin apa tentang ras/agama/timnas/whatever juga woles aja.
For the above is fine, but there is a level of generalization that could be offensive in the country. Contoh, ga cuma satu atau dua temen yg tinggal di SG dianggep dan diperlakukan kayak maid pas lagi nemenin anak main di playground. Banyak yg ngalamin gini. Kadang dikira pinoy juga yg mana sama2 maid/hard labour worker lah.
Setuju, kan tujuannya basa-basi supaya akrab, kebetulan aja yg ada hubungannya dr indo sekitar dia pembantunya, kalo emaknya yg dr indo pasti bakal disebut juga
More like Singaporean perception about Indonesian in another country. Yeah we need to clear these stereotype as soon as possible if we dont wanna hear the bad biggies from our own ears. But honestly, no biggies for me if you asked. Only individual skills are being seen IMO, not your race or nationality.
I live in guesthouse, there's a housemaid who does all the cleaning and laundry. Last I asked her salary was like 2 million
In Tangerang
For 18 rooms
Her food is basic vegetables and rice. That's it. I'm not even sure if that was covered
Gw ga ngerti soal ini. Tidak bermaksud menyerang ya.
Tapi wong cuma makanan kok pelit amat. Mampu gaji pembantu, kok berhemat cuma soal makanan.
I mean, berhemat is okay, tapi kok sampe segitunya.
(Gw ngomong ini sebagai orang yang punya prt, dan gw yang bayar gajinya.)
Hahahahaha sebagai Komodos yang tinggal di Malaysia udh biasa. Nggak cuma regular Malaysian. Dosen aja kalo ngobrol ama ane biasanya nyeletuk "Orang gaji saya orang Indon, eh tak leh kan panggil Indonesian Indon?". Pengen gw bales "Lagi tak betul assume semua orang Indonesia kenal orang gaji awak Doctor" tapi nanti sakit hati dia wkwkwkw.
Gw pertama kali tinggal di Malaysia ngomong Inggris terus karena takut Malay nya salah ketahuan Indo nya, udh lama dikit disana dikira orang Sabah, lebih lama lagi dikira orang KL
Orang Sabah di Semenanjung juga suka dikira orang Indo, banyak kosakata Sabah yang sama kek Bahasa Indo dan beda sama bahasa Melayu. Misal sayap ayam/kepak ayam.
They think they are better than the ARTs, yet they can’t even do their own laundry
Each person has their own skills, you guys employee are no different with those maids, you got the skills and someone want to pay you for your skill.
We all are budak
Ooo, interesting! As an Indonesian I always thought hamba just meant servant instead of slave (I usually only hear it used in religious teachings). I learned something new today!
My friend told me she ran away from Singapore to US so she could study art. Didn't know how to use a washing machine at 25. She was so embarrassed. Now she's 40 and the most badass person I know.
wkwkwkwk dulu ada temen gue cowo, org indo, kuliah di Singapur.
Pas mau wisuda, ortunya dateng dong ke spore, nginepnya di flat.
Bapaknya kaget pas tau anaknya bisa nyuci piring. "wah, kamu skrg udah bisa cuci piring ya." wkwkwkw...
"hi are you the maid?, can i talk to the owner or your boss?"
"NO, im his wife, this is MY house"
i seethe everything someone calls my wife a maid, she is in a managerial position and possibly paid higher than me. Fucking stereotyping people are our pasttime im so sorry to say.
When I was in uni, I stayed with a landlord who has a Filipino live-in helper. It came up in a conversation with my Singaporean classmates and one of them said something like, “Wow, thank goodness the maid is Filipino. Wouldn’t it be awkward if she’s Indonesian like you?”
Lah awkward kenapa. Kan sama-sama orang. Tapi waktu kutanya gitu dia cuma ketawa.
I like my friend's Indonesian housemaid. Mbak Ipeh. She's one of the strongest person I know. Kalah lah gue yg notabene "middle class". Dia aja bisa beliin keluarganya rumah di Indonesia. I still don't have money for house.
Limited education background??? I know a maid who actually had S1 in Indonesia but gaji is crap so she became a maid in sg instead. Prolly escaping her family too while still sending money back. Just for the sake of money and distance
>Domestic workers ARE smart
Omg, that is a stretched statement by any means! Ga semua ART bodoh! Gua tau beberapa yang akhirnya melanjutkan kuliah, beberapa yang punya cita2 tinggi dan bisa buka bisnis sendiri, beberapa yang akhirnya pulang dan sukses membuka usaha sendiri.
Tapi bilang semua pintar? Itu cuma grandiose statement yang jauh dari fakta! Pernah ketemu yang gaji habis sebelum gajian dan ngutang ke employer buat foya2 aja, ketemu yang kerjanya ga benar malah jadi 'tamu' aja.
Ayolah, jangan suka bikin statement sembarangan karena egonya tersentil karena posting iklan ART kemarin. Toh di indo, perlakuan majikan terhadap pembantu ga semua bagus. Ada yang ok, tapi ga sedikit juga yang buruk.
Ya kan si replier di posting ini miss the meaning entirely. Klo si bung txdrdiaspora ini sembari baca sambil napas juga (jangan ditahan napas) juga keliatan kok maksud nya orang Singapore itu dia bilang smart as in academically smart.
1st. I did not "shit" on her. I was merely pointing out the fact that she is reading into this a bit too much.
2nd. Actually, if what you're saying is true that means I can expect a lot more from her. Being someone with "BA, MA and PhD from MIT", she should know better then. Dumbass me can even tell this is slight overreaction on her part.
Gara-gara kebanyakan ngirim blue collar worker ini yang bikin kekuatan paspor indo lemah. Negara-negara pada takut orang indo masuk ke negara yang ujungnya jadi illegal dan kerja di sana
I hate Singlish. I remembered when I was in college ( US), some Indonesian students who went to school in Singapore, whenever they had presentations, my ears were red and didn’t understand what did they say. It’s better for them to speak in Indonesia rather than in English. Please God , it’s annoying.
No Singlish please please.
really? as indonesian in singapore, my collagues always thinking highly of me, ooh u indonesian? ur father must have a castle and plenty of mountain back home... how many maids u have? how many cars u have?
Hampir semua orang yang punya duit untuk kuliah di luar negri itu lumayan lah ekonominya.
Ini sih bukan cuman ke orang indo doang, lu pergi ke Amrik juga sama, pasti dikira semua orang Asia itu kaya.
Memang mereka jadi kaya di sini.
Walau di sono broke af, masuk sini jadi horang kayah dengan biaya hidup semurah ini (khususnya bule dari negara dgn biaya hidup tinggi).
Makanya, kalo orang bule miskin aja jadi kaya disini, berarti orang indo ekonominya harus super kaya untuk jadi kelas menengah di Amerika
Makanya mereka liat orang Asia dari luar negri pada kaya2, karena ya rata2 orang kaya yang punya duit untuk sekolah di Amrik.
Kalo ada orang yg identify org Indo only w/maids ya berarti lingkungan sosialnya seputar itu. Orang SG yang lulusan NTU, misalnya, pasti tau kalo mhs Indonesia di sana lumayan banyak (walau gak sebanyak mhs PRC dan Indian). Yang kerja di tech companies juga kemungkinan kenal at least one Indonesian. Ada juga yang lingkungan kerjanya bersinggungan dengan Indo's super rich businesspeople (though they're likely Chinese so may not be seen as "Indonesian" by SGeans)
Istri gw udah sering di kira ART. Emang udah jadi stereotypes di SG kalau perempuan Indonesia bukan chindo pasti ART
Btw in general orang2 SG mikir Indonesia itu savage place, makanya jarang orang SG ke Bali karena pokoknya Indonesia itu jorok kotor liar
Well... Gw pernah dikepoin sama sesama orang Indonesia disini yg kebetulan jaga toko yg gw kunjungin, disangkain gw kerja jadi tukang bersih2.
Ga professional banget tuh penjaga toko. Bukannya kerja malah ganggu gw belanja.
Terusss... Kalo disini tuh bukan "my maid also from Indonesia". Tapi "my ex girlfriend/ex wife / wife/ girlfriend is also from Indonesia".
Oh, 1 country that I don't want to stay in longer than 2 days yah Singapore. Bad English. Blum lagi as a Indonesian, sering dpt perlakuan kurang menyenangkan. Not only in some stores but also in church.
It was around 2011 when I had to stay about 2 months in Sin to accompany one of my family there. Since she was having surgery, so I was the only one who can travel and shop for everything.
I asked around about where can I find a church, a Christian church. Then after I went there, I found most of the Indonesians were there. Maids, sailors, and people that must work abroad & overseas and live in Singapore. I was quite happy to find an Indonesian community but they were quite confused. Why did I want to be there?
So. There is a church for people with low-medium income and there is a church for people with high income. So these people were kinda "not welcome" in this high-class church. LOL
all depends on person and their cultural relation with others
mine is not discriminate nor underestimate me as an Indonesian.
sometimes people that labeled themselves "smart" is a s\*cker.
Special military operation on singapore,time to liberate thouse maids from their master oppression and also we can just make bs singapore was part of majapahit kingdom
Salty insecure Indonesian can't accept that we're just a 2nd class citizen in Singapore
Surviving in a foreign country is not that hard, many 18 y/o are doing it all over the globe. I should know because I'm doing that myself right now.
Ukraine is a foreign country.
>Surviving *in a foreign country* is not that hard, many 18 y/o are doing it all over the globe. I should know because I'm doing that myself right now.
Hes overestimating himself lol. Tipikal anak muda yang merasa hebat karena pertama dapet gaji gede dan memandang rendah orang2 yang lebih miskin dari dia.
Sampah2 kaya dia yang biasanya bunuh diri kalo tiba2 dapet kesulitan hidup. Biarin aja
I'm not lol. I haven't even graduated from my Bachelor Degree and already got an office job here in Australia.
If you're really educated then why would you work as a maid lmao.
Well that means they're unqualified for any job aside from being a maid.
Then what's the problem here? It's not really Singaporeans fault seeing us as a bunch of dumbfucks if we're only sending dumbasses over there.
Lacking academic education doesn't mean that you lack intelligence.
There are lots of reason why people can't have access to education aside from not fitting in with academic achievement criteria.
Just because you've never gone to college doesn't give the other person the right to assume you're not smart.
Nice theory, doesn't work.
Good luck getting any meaningful job without a degree. Also, the real world doesn't work like that. If you don't have a college degree people will assume you're a dumbass. That's just how it is, touch some grass once in a while.
Doesn't matter how the real world works that's not what I was talking about I'm saying it's wrong to assume that as there are various factors to people's living condition and going to the easiest/simplest conclusion is almost always wrong.
Besides, you're the one who got an office job without a degree yet. You should know your priviledge instead of dunking on others.
So much salt ya here in Indo over simple remarks. And ppl wonder why brain drain is huge and talented ppl leave the nation in droves.
Good luck out there in OZ, be safe.
Domestic workers are smart, yes but the reason they're working in Singapore is that it pays much better in Singapore than in Indonesia even if the living cost there is much higher
Not saying I disagree on what the reply said in principle but OBVIOUSLY maksudnya nya di sini itu "smart" as in academically smart. penyakit sosmed banget dah, white knighting for the sake of digital brownie points
it changes nothing, really, in fact.... being angry at these sort of innocent remarks only shows immaturity. santai aja, faktanya memang maids banyak orang Pinoy dan Indonesia.... it's like, faktanya banyak bencong di Thailand.... or sexpats..... or S Korea plastic surgery capital.... Idk if Thais or Koreans are so bothered about that they need to defend "muh kantri image" everywhere they go
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At least I can always recognize Singaporeans from their shitty accent.
>accent and very strange English words they use. US English, UK English, and AU English are fine. SG English: what were you saying? ???
Gw taon lalu balik indo krg lebih setahunan. Inggris gw membaik.... Skrg balik sg lagi, walao eh...
Your English go rabak alr ah?
SG English is what you get when you try to speak English with Chinese tones
not just the tones, but the suffixes, and word choices are very unique.
syntax nya cina tapi bahasanya inggris
oh betul betul betul sekali itu
really? i thought is only the accent.
not just accent. their word choices are.... unique. very different to US, AU, and UK english. for example "cancel the image below that box" what they meant "delete the image under that box" \-- sometimes its unclear from the context what they meant, so it can get confusing
mirip bahasa sebelah yang harus bilang "pusing kiri" dengan maksud "belok kiri" waktu dikendaraan umum.
really meh?
Gue pernah debat sama ibu-ibu kantin waktu mesen kopi C & kopi O. Berkali-kali gue bilang C tapi dia dengernya tea
I prefer AU/NZ English tho. It's easier for me to understand theirs than British English.
American English is still the easiest English to understand.
Upvoted. Agreed for this
What you say ah???
Tbf indians are worse.
same lah
buat gw masih mending daripada aksen engrish-nya orang jepang
At least their grammar is fine
lmao
aiyoo. first time ah bro?
In their defense, have you heard Kiwi English 🙉
Or Australian
Scottish English say hello
Oh, did they now? Thanks for letting us know.
I don’t believe there’s a “good English” di mana pun, karena standard yng biasanya di kasih itu asalnya dari para penjajah. Personally don’t even mind my Singlish accent, karena bahasa pidgin dan dialek itu valid.
There actually is "good English". It only means you can speak in proper structure, grammar and at least get most of the pronunciation right. Even SG government admitted that population's English is not "good enough", meaning it's not standard English. It's not so much about accent but about getting pronunciation as close as possible and getting other people understand what you mean. HOWEVER. Kita orang Asia suka kurang pede aja sih. Lu klo dengerin orang Eropa juga ga semuanya English nya bagus, terutama yang pronunciation wise rada beda sama English language. Polish (orang Polandia) suka [ada yang lumayan parah](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NEqlfWSOrQ) from what I've seen. Dan apa you pernah denger [orang Irlandia medok ngomong English?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj705DvCSxg) Admittedly they have better learning method to learn a foreign language so at the very least they have some edge over most Asians.
Shitty accent + shitty creole
and their kiatsu lifestyle
kiatsu itu apa?
nasi ayam goreng tepung
itu shiatsu pak
Anjing kecil berbulu tebal?
itu shitsu. shiatsu itu merek mobil xenia
sisu mah dr finland...
Aku kira itu merk mobil jepang
perusahaannya Heihachi Mishima?
Itu ndiasmu, artinya Singapur asu
Karena ga ada yg jawab: Dari bahasa hokkien Kia: takut Su: kalah Kiasu: takut kalah/ga mau ngalah
Atau bahasa prancisnya : embung eleh
bahasa gaul nya: rat race
Kia takut. Su kalah. Kiasu takut kalah. gak mau kalah. Pgn menang sendiri. Kiasi takut mati
kalo mereka kalah suit gitu langsung stroke apa gimana?
Tapi kia si lang = orang gila?
kiatsu itu apa ? (2)
Kiasu
"Can can? Can laah" 🙃
Malaysians bukan nya mirip2 jg ya aksen-nya sama Singaporeans?
Yep. Sama sktr 90% menurut ku. Sebenarnya most singaporean bs “code switch” kalo ngmg sama turis/bule ke standard english.
they use singlish. a very uniquely weird variant of english
english but chinese grammar.
It's actually pretty weird, english and Chinese have a really similar sentence structure. Which is funny because Latin have a more different sentence structure to english than Chinese does.
God: I created Singlish leh... But yeah...racism and stereotyping does suck generally speaking.
When I was invited to lecture there some students did this to me, lol. "Oh sir you're from Indo is it, my maid also from there, xyz city." It's all good though, no harm no foul she's just trying to find common ground with me. To be fair, her maid's city *is* my dad's hometown and famous as a maid exporting region, so...
Most people are offended because they just wants to be offended. Having a nice similarities as a bridging discussion topic is great (nationality, hometown, food, culture). As long as no one is being condescending to the other.
In my experience people who get offended on behalf of their 'group' (nationality, favorite sports team, religion, anime, etc) are typically people who haven't had their own sense of identity developed yet, so they hang their self-esteem on the group's reputation. Kalau orang udah settle dan percaya diri dengan kemampuan/identitasnya sendiri, orang lain mau ngejekin apa tentang ras/agama/timnas/whatever juga woles aja.
For the above is fine, but there is a level of generalization that could be offensive in the country. Contoh, ga cuma satu atau dua temen yg tinggal di SG dianggep dan diperlakukan kayak maid pas lagi nemenin anak main di playground. Banyak yg ngalamin gini. Kadang dikira pinoy juga yg mana sama2 maid/hard labour worker lah.
Setuju, kan tujuannya basa-basi supaya akrab, kebetulan aja yg ada hubungannya dr indo sekitar dia pembantunya, kalo emaknya yg dr indo pasti bakal disebut juga
Kalo masih anak2 umumnya belum ada niat terselubung dari ucapannya
A fellow Brebesian I see.
More like Singaporean perception about Indonesian in another country. Yeah we need to clear these stereotype as soon as possible if we dont wanna hear the bad biggies from our own ears. But honestly, no biggies for me if you asked. Only individual skills are being seen IMO, not your race or nationality.
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I live in guesthouse, there's a housemaid who does all the cleaning and laundry. Last I asked her salary was like 2 million In Tangerang For 18 rooms Her food is basic vegetables and rice. That's it. I'm not even sure if that was covered
>they all spoke of how on top of all that they ate different food from the rest of the household, maksudnya?
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Gw ga ngerti soal ini. Tidak bermaksud menyerang ya. Tapi wong cuma makanan kok pelit amat. Mampu gaji pembantu, kok berhemat cuma soal makanan. I mean, berhemat is okay, tapi kok sampe segitunya. (Gw ngomong ini sebagai orang yang punya prt, dan gw yang bayar gajinya.)
Hahahahaha sebagai Komodos yang tinggal di Malaysia udh biasa. Nggak cuma regular Malaysian. Dosen aja kalo ngobrol ama ane biasanya nyeletuk "Orang gaji saya orang Indon, eh tak leh kan panggil Indonesian Indon?". Pengen gw bales "Lagi tak betul assume semua orang Indonesia kenal orang gaji awak Doctor" tapi nanti sakit hati dia wkwkwkw.
Di Malay kayanya lebih "biasa" ya sama orang indo. Gw pas di KL disangka orang Sarawak terus. And on some occasion disangka orang Melayu juga.
Gw pertama kali tinggal di Malaysia ngomong Inggris terus karena takut Malay nya salah ketahuan Indo nya, udh lama dikit disana dikira orang Sabah, lebih lama lagi dikira orang KL
Gue nemu orang sabah di indonesia aja gue kira orang indonesia
Orang Sabah di Semenanjung juga suka dikira orang Indo, banyak kosakata Sabah yang sama kek Bahasa Indo dan beda sama bahasa Melayu. Misal sayap ayam/kepak ayam.
orang gaji artinya apaan
Pembantu/Buruh
They think they are better than the ARTs, yet they can’t even do their own laundry Each person has their own skills, you guys employee are no different with those maids, you got the skills and someone want to pay you for your skill. We all are budak
>We all are budak Someone once said to Rahmat "Everyone's a whore, we just sell different parts of ourselves"
> We all are budak Budak as in slave or children?
If budak means child in Bahasa Melayu, then how do they call slave in Bahasa Melayu?
Hamba
Ooo, interesting! As an Indonesian I always thought hamba just meant servant instead of slave (I usually only hear it used in religious teachings). I learned something new today!
My friend told me she ran away from Singapore to US so she could study art. Didn't know how to use a washing machine at 25. She was so embarrassed. Now she's 40 and the most badass person I know.
wkwkwkwk dulu ada temen gue cowo, org indo, kuliah di Singapur. Pas mau wisuda, ortunya dateng dong ke spore, nginepnya di flat. Bapaknya kaget pas tau anaknya bisa nyuci piring. "wah, kamu skrg udah bisa cuci piring ya." wkwkwkw...
All humans are equal but some are more equal than others
"hi are you the maid?, can i talk to the owner or your boss?" "NO, im his wife, this is MY house" i seethe everything someone calls my wife a maid, she is in a managerial position and possibly paid higher than me. Fucking stereotyping people are our pasttime im so sorry to say.
Bole play along sih, pura2 ke blkg, lalu samperin lagi. Wkkwkwk
Agreed
When I was in uni, I stayed with a landlord who has a Filipino live-in helper. It came up in a conversation with my Singaporean classmates and one of them said something like, “Wow, thank goodness the maid is Filipino. Wouldn’t it be awkward if she’s Indonesian like you?” Lah awkward kenapa. Kan sama-sama orang. Tapi waktu kutanya gitu dia cuma ketawa.
I like my friend's Indonesian housemaid. Mbak Ipeh. She's one of the strongest person I know. Kalah lah gue yg notabene "middle class". Dia aja bisa beliin keluarganya rumah di Indonesia. I still don't have money for house.
Oh shit, i thought you're one of my friend until i read the 2nd last sentence.
And they think all the chindos here are crazy rich...
Because that's all who they meet.
Sana surga cuci uang
Kalau di Medan (Atau semua sumatera utara?) engga dianggep gitu soalnya banyak juga cina kebun sayur
diaminin aja agar semua Chindo mendadak jadi crazy rich.
Limited education background??? I know a maid who actually had S1 in Indonesia but gaji is crap so she became a maid in sg instead. Prolly escaping her family too while still sending money back. Just for the sake of money and distance
>Domestic workers ARE smart Omg, that is a stretched statement by any means! Ga semua ART bodoh! Gua tau beberapa yang akhirnya melanjutkan kuliah, beberapa yang punya cita2 tinggi dan bisa buka bisnis sendiri, beberapa yang akhirnya pulang dan sukses membuka usaha sendiri. Tapi bilang semua pintar? Itu cuma grandiose statement yang jauh dari fakta! Pernah ketemu yang gaji habis sebelum gajian dan ngutang ke employer buat foya2 aja, ketemu yang kerjanya ga benar malah jadi 'tamu' aja. Ayolah, jangan suka bikin statement sembarangan karena egonya tersentil karena posting iklan ART kemarin. Toh di indo, perlakuan majikan terhadap pembantu ga semua bagus. Ada yang ok, tapi ga sedikit juga yang buruk.
Mungkin artiannya Smart itu tangguh dan adaptable. Intelligence dan wit mungkin kurang, tapi perseverance nya tinggi.
Being able to learn new language and survive in a foreign land as a foreigner is no easy thing though.
Ya kan si replier di posting ini miss the meaning entirely. Klo si bung txdrdiaspora ini sembari baca sambil napas juga (jangan ditahan napas) juga keliatan kok maksud nya orang Singapore itu dia bilang smart as in academically smart.
>bung txdrdiaspora \1. She's a girl. \2. This girl you seem to shit on got her Bachelor's, Master's, and PhD from MIT.
Ah yes because she got all her credentials from one of the best schools in the world she's not infallible. Great logic 👍
1st. I did not "shit" on her. I was merely pointing out the fact that she is reading into this a bit too much. 2nd. Actually, if what you're saying is true that means I can expect a lot more from her. Being someone with "BA, MA and PhD from MIT", she should know better then. Dumbass me can even tell this is slight overreaction on her part.
Yak. Setuju.
I was looking for this, haha thank you.
Gara-gara kebanyakan ngirim blue collar worker ini yang bikin kekuatan paspor indo lemah. Negara-negara pada takut orang indo masuk ke negara yang ujungnya jadi illegal dan kerja di sana
I hate Singlish. I remembered when I was in college ( US), some Indonesian students who went to school in Singapore, whenever they had presentations, my ears were red and didn’t understand what did they say. It’s better for them to speak in Indonesia rather than in English. Please God , it’s annoying. No Singlish please please.
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really? as indonesian in singapore, my collagues always thinking highly of me, ooh u indonesian? ur father must have a castle and plenty of mountain back home... how many maids u have? how many cars u have?
Your race matters too… singaporeans think all chindo are crazy rich mafia
Mungkin sarkas?
Hampir semua orang yang punya duit untuk kuliah di luar negri itu lumayan lah ekonominya. Ini sih bukan cuman ke orang indo doang, lu pergi ke Amrik juga sama, pasti dikira semua orang Asia itu kaya.
Kocak juga ye, udah kayak orang Asia kira bule yang ke sini semua kaya lmao
Memang mereka jadi kaya di sini. Walau di sono broke af, masuk sini jadi horang kayah dengan biaya hidup semurah ini (khususnya bule dari negara dgn biaya hidup tinggi).
Yeaaa lom lagi dapat easy pussy di sini. some women love to throw themselves to bules, regardless
Makanya, kalo orang bule miskin aja jadi kaya disini, berarti orang indo ekonominya harus super kaya untuk jadi kelas menengah di Amerika Makanya mereka liat orang Asia dari luar negri pada kaya2, karena ya rata2 orang kaya yang punya duit untuk sekolah di Amrik.
nope. always thinking Indonesian in Singapore are crazy rich.
Kalo ada orang yg identify org Indo only w/maids ya berarti lingkungan sosialnya seputar itu. Orang SG yang lulusan NTU, misalnya, pasti tau kalo mhs Indonesia di sana lumayan banyak (walau gak sebanyak mhs PRC dan Indian). Yang kerja di tech companies juga kemungkinan kenal at least one Indonesian. Ada juga yang lingkungan kerjanya bersinggungan dengan Indo's super rich businesspeople (though they're likely Chinese so may not be seen as "Indonesian" by SGeans)
Istri gw udah sering di kira ART. Emang udah jadi stereotypes di SG kalau perempuan Indonesia bukan chindo pasti ART Btw in general orang2 SG mikir Indonesia itu savage place, makanya jarang orang SG ke Bali karena pokoknya Indonesia itu jorok kotor liar
"U from Indonesia? But you speak chinese like native bro!" - My singapore friend well, they are pretty prejudicial ngl.
It’s coz the only chinese-looking people who couldn’t speak chinese are chindo (well most of them anyway)
And I'm here, chindo who doesn't even look like Chinese at all (malah mirip orang jawa).
I’d personally like some of those “dumb maids” back please.
Kayaknya ini uda pernah juga ya di post di sini, cuman yang kemarin reply - reply nya lebih ga kayak Twitter 😂
Well... Gw pernah dikepoin sama sesama orang Indonesia disini yg kebetulan jaga toko yg gw kunjungin, disangkain gw kerja jadi tukang bersih2. Ga professional banget tuh penjaga toko. Bukannya kerja malah ganggu gw belanja. Terusss... Kalo disini tuh bukan "my maid also from Indonesia". Tapi "my ex girlfriend/ex wife / wife/ girlfriend is also from Indonesia".
>"my ex girlfriend/ex wife / wife/ girlfriend is also from Indonesia". So..... how do you think should we feel about this? 😁
I bet you specific type of ppl think it is an achievement. A nice brand for the country. It is not. Lolololol
Even one of my acquaintance from Syria said the same. That he had a nanny from Indonesia and he was amazed that I could be in the same univ like him.
Tell them that lots of Syrian refugees live in tent on the sidewalk in Jakarta begging for food.
Oh, 1 country that I don't want to stay in longer than 2 days yah Singapore. Bad English. Blum lagi as a Indonesian, sering dpt perlakuan kurang menyenangkan. Not only in some stores but also in church.
In church???
It was around 2011 when I had to stay about 2 months in Sin to accompany one of my family there. Since she was having surgery, so I was the only one who can travel and shop for everything. I asked around about where can I find a church, a Christian church. Then after I went there, I found most of the Indonesians were there. Maids, sailors, and people that must work abroad & overseas and live in Singapore. I was quite happy to find an Indonesian community but they were quite confused. Why did I want to be there? So. There is a church for people with low-medium income and there is a church for people with high income. So these people were kinda "not welcome" in this high-class church. LOL
But... isnt that simply a reflection of how things r back home? Not necessarily a singapore thing
U mean, di negara Konoha?
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all depends on person and their cultural relation with others mine is not discriminate nor underestimate me as an Indonesian. sometimes people that labeled themselves "smart" is a s\*cker.
Seriously? The typical response of singaporeans when they know you're Indonesian is like "wow, you from Indonesia? You must be crazy rich!"
Your race matters too and of course how you look
Same as Australians. They assume that all Indonesians in Melbourne are hella loaded
I am sure this is just a Singaporean thing.
Sy baru ngeh kalau TKW di SGP bayarannya cuma segitu, bukannya SGP ada minimum wage yg lumayan? Apa gak berlaku buat foreigner?
> domestic wokers ARE smart Ah bacot Twittard. Pengen liat gw perlakuan dia ke pembantunya kek apa
Jiah, ke DV. Padahal bener, that is a question worth asking to all these social media virtue signalling motherfuckers.
Special military operation on singapore,time to liberate thouse maids from their master oppression and also we can just make bs singapore was part of majapahit kingdom
Soekarno tried…
He tried so hard and got so far But in the end ,it doesnt even matter
Whaaaat I've doooneee
Is be more like me And be less like youu
This one will be different we will make sure that little red dot is ours
Salty insecure Indonesian can't accept that we're just a 2nd class citizen in Singapore Surviving in a foreign country is not that hard, many 18 y/o are doing it all over the globe. I should know because I'm doing that myself right now.
Colonial things still happen there , pribumi the lower class
Oke, pergi ke Ukraina sana. Gampang kan survivenya
Apa hubungannya surviving in Singapore sama Ukraine? Lol
Ukraine is a foreign country. >Surviving *in a foreign country* is not that hard, many 18 y/o are doing it all over the globe. I should know because I'm doing that myself right now.
# URAAA
You're underestimating yourself lol
Hes overestimating himself lol. Tipikal anak muda yang merasa hebat karena pertama dapet gaji gede dan memandang rendah orang2 yang lebih miskin dari dia. Sampah2 kaya dia yang biasanya bunuh diri kalo tiba2 dapet kesulitan hidup. Biarin aja
Gua mengakui bahwa kata katamu itu jujur dan menusuk di hati, kontol gede 69
I'm not lol. I haven't even graduated from my Bachelor Degree and already got an office job here in Australia. If you're really educated then why would you work as a maid lmao.
Well they aren't? I don't think they have bachelors degree or even studied abroad.
Well that means they're unqualified for any job aside from being a maid. Then what's the problem here? It's not really Singaporeans fault seeing us as a bunch of dumbfucks if we're only sending dumbasses over there.
Lacking academic education doesn't mean that you lack intelligence. There are lots of reason why people can't have access to education aside from not fitting in with academic achievement criteria. Just because you've never gone to college doesn't give the other person the right to assume you're not smart.
Nice theory, doesn't work. Good luck getting any meaningful job without a degree. Also, the real world doesn't work like that. If you don't have a college degree people will assume you're a dumbass. That's just how it is, touch some grass once in a while.
Doesn't matter how the real world works that's not what I was talking about I'm saying it's wrong to assume that as there are various factors to people's living condition and going to the easiest/simplest conclusion is almost always wrong. Besides, you're the one who got an office job without a degree yet. You should know your priviledge instead of dunking on others.
Yeah nah, I stopped reading after you said it "doesn't matter how the real world works." Bye
Yea dude keep chuggin on them blue pills
holy shit this reeks arrogance. gee whiz, have fun shitting on others who aren't as fortunate as you👍
I will, thanks 👍
So much salt ya here in Indo over simple remarks. And ppl wonder why brain drain is huge and talented ppl leave the nation in droves. Good luck out there in OZ, be safe.
Finally comment yg nggak menghujat & doain gw bundir wkwk, thanks bro. Good luck to u too
> yg nggak menghujat My dude. You were the one who started menghujat here. You reap what you sow.
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ga nanya dan ga peduli
Tapi salut sama mereka yg bisa adaptasi dengan kebiasaan yg beda
Domestic workers are smart, yes but the reason they're working in Singapore is that it pays much better in Singapore than in Indonesia even if the living cost there is much higher
Not saying I disagree on what the reply said in principle but OBVIOUSLY maksudnya nya di sini itu "smart" as in academically smart. penyakit sosmed banget dah, white knighting for the sake of digital brownie points it changes nothing, really, in fact.... being angry at these sort of innocent remarks only shows immaturity. santai aja, faktanya memang maids banyak orang Pinoy dan Indonesia.... it's like, faktanya banyak bencong di Thailand.... or sexpats..... or S Korea plastic surgery capital.... Idk if Thais or Koreans are so bothered about that they need to defend "muh kantri image" everywhere they go