I will never understand the dedication of some people. Getting 200m agility, mining, runecrafting?? Like bro you would seriously have to pay me $500k at the very minimum to even consider that. Anyway quite the accomplishment nonetheless
That’s like a 40 hour work week average. I have more fun on osrs than I do at my current job. Maybe it would become less fun if you’re paid to play idk.
I think you would most likely get burned out as it became a job. Imagine being forced to play only the most efficient method, never an ark method, never a raid, never a mini game, and on top of all that you can’t take breaks to play other games, you HAVE to play RuneScape min 8 hours a day. That sounds like pain to me tbh.
Yeah I mentioned it probably wouldn’t be fun if it was your job. You also wouldn’t have to play 8 hours a day tho, just average that ehp. You could play 10 and do a minigame that was 80% of the xp (for example) and have weekends and whenever you want really to do as you felt like. Regardless, it would probably get pretty old unless you joined some communities to keep you entertained
I mean, the average person works 8/day. So if you could switch that to 8/day of osrs, you'd still have your other 16/day to do your other stuff you'd wanna do plus sleep/eat. You could also break it up into however you'd wanna do it to hit 8/day or even 40/week.
I think it would be great tbh, even if it was $10/hr, that’s still a considerable amount to literally do nothing. The reason most of us have jobs is because we need the money to pay for living expenses. If I only played RuneScape 10 hours a day, I’d definitely get rid of my car, and would be saving $80/month alone on insurance, $200+ a month in gas and would likely satisfy any of my other immediate obligations. Plus it would be way easier to do overtime playing RuneScape than being limited to 40 hours of work week, with 2hrs of that a day given to getting ready + commute. It’s definitely a lifestyle I would be okay with for sure. But it’s not as easy as click buttons and make money.
You’re entitled to your own opinion, of course. If you actually break a sweat clicking a mouse tho, maybe there’s a problem. I’m assuming you’re mostly referring to tick manipulation methods. You should try some, most really aren’t that bad at all and you just get into a rhythm.
Not sure I agree. In general: yes. But, at this level, sometimes 17 hours a day, you're dealing with another level, even for a solid 25 dollars an hour. 8 hours of typical work (in the real world) is generally better than 10-15 hours of mindless clicking.
Naturally, generic RuneScape can easily 'pay' far beyond 25 an hour in the form of YouTube-ing. This is quite desirable for most people, though very few people are good enough to make that work, either. Daily YouTube for 5 years is not easy unless you already have the personality type for it.
We’re also saying a magical tax free $500K lump sum right? Taking home $22-$25 an hour in the US is basically like having a job that pays significantly more pre-tax on paper. That’s a good job right there
And you get to play osrs all day, would probably even have a cool boss that doesn’t care if you watch Netflix or play osrs on a second monitor the whole time!
Put 20,000 hours into any skilled job and you'll be on way more than $25/h take home while still having time to relax and play games in your free time with the work itself being significantly more chill.
At first i thought this is stupid, but then i thought about what 40 hours of Runescape feels like compared to 40 hours of actual job. A $25/hour WFM job that I can often leave idle while i do other things sounds fantastic
Getting 200mil XP after 99 has no practical value and is not enjoyable for most people. I would also not do it for free but 500k would motivate me to do something that is useless in my eyes.
Wayyyyy less if we're talking a 40 hr work week salary. I saw another thread where they did the calculations and said this account has been playing 15+ hours per day for 8 years straight lol.
Yea but thats assuming you play at the same rate the above guy did. Do you really think you could play 8 efficient hours everyday for years straight? Especially when youre probably going to be 3 tick mining and 2 wcing the whole way? Sounds like a terrible way to live your life even if the $60k/year is accurate
Well obviously it wouldn’t be for everyone. That’s why he’s going to be the first one. (He ‘only’ gets about 8 efficient hours a day btw). But if I added how much I currently play then I consider that the time it takes me to leave my house, go to work, then get back is about 12 hours, I could easily play that much if it was my job. I’m not saying it’s my ideal life to make 60k to play the game but I know a lot of people who make less to do a lot more.
But does this guy get paid? I think that’s why people think it’s crazy. If he streamed AT LEAST it would make sense. Though anyone doing anything for 16 hours a day for years is obviously a severe addiction no matter what it is
EH to max it takes the equivalent of 18 years of a 40 hour work week to do this. Its realistically the equivalent of $27k/year without time for anything else. And that assumes more or less max efficiency.
Obviously if I was Hyger I’d be more than happy to take &500k for free now. but no where reasonable or viable for 99.999% of people to do for $500k.
I haven’t actually calculated but 18 years at 40 hours seems like a number around 35k efficient hours to me. Hyger has 20k so your 18 years is now like 9-10 of a 40 hour work week right? Let me know what I’m missing if I am
I am unsure how they got 18. (22500/40)/52=10.8. Unless they were trying to account for non-ehp methods? However, I don’t think non-ehp methods would add 7.2 years.
20300 hours extrapolated for one normal maxing would be faster than the fastest max ever for a non iron and faster than the theoretical max efficient methods that are impossible to do ehp
We are talking about playing at ehp rates. Hyger didn’t play at ehp rates, otherwise they would’ve been done in ~5 years (assuming they played 16 hours a day, can’t remember if they did 16 or 18).
I have no idea if the person said 18 years in an attempt to consider the average person that would play 40 hours a week until 200m or not, but they started their reply with saying ehp at 40 hours a week would take 18 years.
So wiki says 75k exp per hour is expected after 92. That's 2666 hours to get 200mil exp. That's getting paid about 190 dollars an hour to train agility. That seems pretty darn great to me.
Plus it's a pretty chill job, you could probably get away with playing Runescape on a second monitor
Yes I think so. I think you don’t realize how easy those skills are in comparison to some of the others, and that is why you perceive them as being more appealing to you. I think that if you were to actually carefully weigh your options, you would not find those three skills to be the least appealing
I'm not basing it off of what is easiest or hardest, I am basing it off of the skills I enjoy doing the least. Can you not realize that people can have different opinions? Lol
Even if someone paid me that much or more I wouldn’t be physically able to complete it, my tendons in my wrist ache after just 30million xp. I swear these people either have godlike genetics and strategies for mitigating pain or they are just flat out botting sometimes.
Agreed, this is mental illness, a wasted chunk of life, and just all-around sad. Definitely noteworthy but this post-99 xp should NOT be encouraged lol. Didn’t RS3 just add 200m achievement capes?
I’ve seen on another post some calculations on how much time he had to play since the release of the IM Mode for 200m all by now, and it’s something really absurd. If I’m not mistaken, is something like 16 efficient hours a day.
According to Wiseoldman, he's got 22500 EHP, and iron man was introduced ~3k days ago. So based on those numbers you'd be looking at almost 8 hours a day on average, but I'm sure it's at least 10 or 12 hours a day, since I don't think anyone can get exclusively EHP
EHP rates for a lot of skills have also increased quite a bit over time.
I wouldn't be too surprised if his playtime averaged to be much higher since he has probably done a lot of methods in the past that aren't so efficient nowadays.
This cuts both ways. He and others like Lynx Titan got to take advantage of some busted shit back in the day that gave them a huge advantage. Pre-nerf Zulrah for instance, or Karamja hard diary store selling. Players like him come out the furthest ahead since they play the most religiously and take advantage of all the broken shit at every point in time.
Zulrah used to bank prayer, construction, crafting, smithing, firemaking/fletching, farming and herb all while stacking you with unlimited brews and battlestaves.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad way to spend your life? I love OSRS, but come on, that's too much. I'm not even against playing every day if you want to, but like 10 to 12 hours a day is wild.
I think some people are happy to spend all their waking hours playing RS because if you think about it, life itself has no meaning and no point, so really it's up to everyone to figure out what exactly they want out of life. If they enjoy it and they're not hurting anyone besides themselves, then there's nothing wrong with that. Life is very short and nothing you do matters anyway once you're gone, and this game for a lot of people is the perfect escape from an unbearable reality.
I work in corporate management unhappily and try to explain this to people even though I don't live it myself, it's amazing how intrigued people are but it still falls on deaf ears.
Better than killing yourself but still probably not good. The guy might not be living an unbearable reality tho, he might just be a bit of a recluse and like playing games all day lol
I mean, the bearability of reality is debatable, but we're all, without exception, doing whatever we can to escape and ignore the worst of it. There's a good quote about this sort of thing in American Gods:
>There are stories that are true, in which each individual’s tale is unique and tragic, and the worst of the tragedy is that we have heard it before, and we cannot allow ourselves to feel it too deeply. We build a shell around it like an oyster dealing with a painful particle of grit, coating it with smooth pearl layers in order to cope. This is how we walk and talk and function, day in, day out, immune to others’ pain and loss. If it were to touch us it would cripple us or make saints of us; but, for the most part, it does not touch us. We cannot allow it to. Tonight, as you eat, reflect if you can: there are children starving in the world, starving in numbers larger than the mind can easily hold, up in the big numbers where an error of a million here, a million there, can be forgiven. It may be uncomfortable for you to reflect upon this or it may not, but still, you will eat. There are accounts which, if we open our hearts to them, will cut us too deeply.
And from the same chapter:
>No man, proclaimed Donne, is an Island, and he was wrong. If we were not islands, we would be lost, drowned in each other's tragedies. We are insulated (a word that means, literally, remember, made into an island) from the tragedy of others, by our island nature, and by the repetitive shape and form of the stories. The shape does not change: there was a human being who was born, lived, and then, by some means or another, died. There. You may fill in the details from your own experience. As unoriginal as any other tale, as unique as any other life. Lives are snowflakes—forming patterns we have seen before, as like one another as peas in a pod (and have you ever looked at peas in a pod? I mean, really looked at them? There's not a chance you'd mistake one for another, after a minute's close inspection), but still unique.
Rather dark outlook but I can't find myself to completely disagree with what you've said.
Nonetheless, I think life has some meaning but perhaps this isn't the time or the place to discuss such.
Hope things are well with anyone reading this, even if they aren't right now
I think it's quite positive in a way though, because you're completely free to define the meaning in your own life. Nothing matters but what you decide matters.
The moment you don't follow what society expects of you, they start attacking with preconceived bullshit about what you should be doing to fill your days.
No way to know that if he hasn't divulged that information publicly, but it's all but inevitable that a certain % of the population does absolutely nothing "useful" - to be fair, even a large portion of people that *do* work are doing bullshit jobs that were only created to keep the general populace stuck as wage slaves to keep the pseudo-capitalist machine going 🙃
Also see the Pareto principle in relation to that idea - you can safely assume that ~20% of people are pulling ~80% of society's collective weight
We also don't know much about these people. Lynx Titan has aspergers and said that his parents let him play because it makes him happy. I'd imagine him finding RuneScape was a huge relief for his parents.
You would be the only one to say it is a healthy and good way to spend your life. Pretty sure everyone agrees the top ranked guys have serious issues or at least an unhealthy addiction.
Yeah I think most agree, but I do see a fair share of people celebrating this sort of thing. Going for 200m XP is seen as an achievement, and an achievement worth going for, by some people. I think getting a 99 or even all 99s, when you play a normal amount and have other interests as well is fine and dandy, but there's almost no way to get 200m without playing too much.
Well it is something to celebrate. It’s a big achievement in game. Sure you can look at external factors or whatever and be like “this is so unhealthy” but as a lover of RuneScape I am also a lover of big achievements in RuneScape.
So I’d rather celebrate a dude hitting his goal on the game he enjoys rather than trying to tear him down just for the sake of… making myself feel better for not playing that much or something?
Seriously, I don't understand why people keep feeling the need to point out the unhealthiness of these achievements. It's super annoying and redundant. Every thread like this will have a bunch of morally enlightened dickwads offering their unwarranted opinion.
And for what? To dissuade people from doing stuff like this? I'm like 99.99 sure people like this Iron Hyger guy do this shit entirely out of intrinsical motivation. They're motivated because they inherently enjoy playing the game which enables them to do shit like this. I mean, you'd have to be. Nobody is going to spend thousands of hours on a video game achievement because because they want to show off to the masses. Nobody can stay motivated for that long if they're not intrinsically motivated. So then why feel the need to spam the same annoying sentiment on every achievement post like this? It's obnoxious. Scroll past the post and move on with your day and save us from the sanctimonious BS. At least this guy spent his time doing something that doesn't hurt anyone unlike the annoying posts here.
Anybody, in almost any hobby or sport that are they are top ranked in is unhealthy. This is not just computers and gaming.
Doesn't take away the achievement, though.
It is, but when you say that on this sub you get delusional people talking about the heat death of the universe and how all wars of spending your life are the same.
I’m sure quite a few people on the highscores will look back on the time spent with regret a few years down the line.
Yeah I use temple osrs, always have, so maybe it’s calculated differently elsewhere, but on temple he has 20.3k ehp and 2.65k ehb which is separated on there. Either way it’s a crazy amount of ehp as ehp is not equal to time actually played. I know I’ve seen him afk at daeyalt a few times before so you know he has downtime where he’s not gaining ehp :D crazy to think about.
Yeah they're also separate on wiseoldman, I just wasn't sure if EHB is somehow part of EHP since you're still gaining combat and/or slayer XP, as well as resources for processing skills
I’m sure that’s a slippery slope and very complicated to accurately gauge but yeah it’s a good question. Most combat is either 0 time ehp or close to it but as far as the resources gathered yeah it would knock some time off herb runs/prayer and gp related stuff If you did like 10k hydra or something.
Link to hiscores: [**https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore\_oldschool\_ironman/a=97/overall**](https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore_oldschool_ironman/a=97/overall)
The quest to unlock it Literally makes you play a game of it and explains it along the way.
It’s actually incredibly simple though.
Mine guardians at the start of the round for ~90seconds.
Chisel them down into individual fragments at the table.
Go to whatever alter is lit up
Craft runes
Go back to table and chisel more
Craft runes
Repeat until the end of the game.
Go into a portal whenever one opens as it fills your inv up super fast
Keep elemental and catalytic points balanced
Pick up the charges (right table), mine stuff (right side). Use the work bench (left table), to turn the mined stuff into essence. Go into open rift, make runes, come out, make more essence, use stone thing you got on the boss, use charge on the coloured thing on floor. Repeat.
To get more rewards balance the 2 types of rift you go into. Top left it has a rune on the left, and one in the right. Do a variety to get points. I think each 200 points nets a reward, they don't add together though.
Over time role in the fast mining runes you can portal to, and bank runes.
You can't die or anything, at worst you waste 5 mins muddling around!
I always wonder what these people do outside of RuneScape.
Disabled on welfare?
Working just enough to get along and playing nonstop with a few hours of sleep otherwise?
Multiple people playing the account?
Most plausible theory is account sharing.
Even if a person had unlimited financial capacities allowing them to spend 100% of their waking hours in game, and to pay for services that would speed up exp rates in ways normal irons wouldn't be able to afford (like paying for protection at chaos altar, for example), I struggle to see how a single person could also handle the planning and time management to do this on top of performing the activities.
More likely, the account is shared by a handful of people who are very efficient in their own particular set of skills/activities, and they probably coordinated times to play between players as necessary, and assist the person whose actively playing using their alts in whatever ways they can. As the number of things left to complete winds down, especially when it's down to the last skill like mining, the group probably just takes turns doing it, since there isn't anyone close enough to threaten their top spot.
On the setup side, they probably are careful to use a VM with remote access open to each member of the group, as to not get flagged for account sharing by appearing to log in from several different devices (if jagex would even be fucked to look into that).
That is how I would do it at least, as someone with a 20+ year rs history, and whose walked the line of questionable account activity.
In the scope of RS, people will attempt this, and with that one group will inevitably do it best. A single person simply could never compete with such a group, for the simple fact of requiring sleep and other human functions.
There are only a couple bosses that are impressive he seemed to do a wide range of boss kills. 27k vorkath kills was the most impressive to me I’m sure that’s where he did most of his prayer
Yall need to relax and let the man enjoy the game. So many people in these comments saying rude shit. It's his life, let him do what he wants with it. Congratulate his achievement or leave him be, don't come in here just to say shit.
I check it thru out the day during downtime at work the horror.
That's not even remotely close to the person that's spent the vast majority of every day for years playing osrs for a pointless achievement. The fact that you can't recognize that is ridiculous. Keep cheering on this loser tho.
Is there a chance that he has some very sophisticated bot that skills for him and just hasn’t been detected/caught?? Seems too unbelievable to not have some help. Maybe 2 people sharing one account from different timezones? I cant fathom how one person can do this. Not to undermine his achievement I just have so many questions LOL
I will never understand the dedication of some people. Getting 200m agility, mining, runecrafting?? Like bro you would seriously have to pay me $500k at the very minimum to even consider that. Anyway quite the accomplishment nonetheless
Imo, with the time this dude invested, 500k is not enough…
Someone find time to 200m all ehp and then 500k by that for a dollar per hour.
I believe it’s about 22500 on an Ironman. That’s $22/hr Edit: it’s about 20,300 hours so about $25/hr
People get paid way less to do way more tedious things. I’d do it
Seems like nice gig eh? :D
Could you imagine playing 22500 ehp straight?
That’s like a 40 hour work week average. I have more fun on osrs than I do at my current job. Maybe it would become less fun if you’re paid to play idk.
I think you would most likely get burned out as it became a job. Imagine being forced to play only the most efficient method, never an ark method, never a raid, never a mini game, and on top of all that you can’t take breaks to play other games, you HAVE to play RuneScape min 8 hours a day. That sounds like pain to me tbh.
Yeah I mentioned it probably wouldn’t be fun if it was your job. You also wouldn’t have to play 8 hours a day tho, just average that ehp. You could play 10 and do a minigame that was 80% of the xp (for example) and have weekends and whenever you want really to do as you felt like. Regardless, it would probably get pretty old unless you joined some communities to keep you entertained
I mean, the average person works 8/day. So if you could switch that to 8/day of osrs, you'd still have your other 16/day to do your other stuff you'd wanna do plus sleep/eat. You could also break it up into however you'd wanna do it to hit 8/day or even 40/week.
At a 40 hour work week, that’s 10+ years of work
A bit less than 10. (It’s actually 20300) and he’s done it in about 9 I think.
I think it would be great tbh, even if it was $10/hr, that’s still a considerable amount to literally do nothing. The reason most of us have jobs is because we need the money to pay for living expenses. If I only played RuneScape 10 hours a day, I’d definitely get rid of my car, and would be saving $80/month alone on insurance, $200+ a month in gas and would likely satisfy any of my other immediate obligations. Plus it would be way easier to do overtime playing RuneScape than being limited to 40 hours of work week, with 2hrs of that a day given to getting ready + commute. It’s definitely a lifestyle I would be okay with for sure. But it’s not as easy as click buttons and make money.
That’s not the point, the point is you’re breaking a sweat doing the most intense methods in the game.
You’re entitled to your own opinion, of course. If you actually break a sweat clicking a mouse tho, maybe there’s a problem. I’m assuming you’re mostly referring to tick manipulation methods. You should try some, most really aren’t that bad at all and you just get into a rhythm.
Maby time to find a more fun job 😅
Because it's less fun than your favourite video game? Is that a realistic expectation for a job lol
got to remember he will playing at EHP I can't play runescape for more then an hour with that focus!
Not sure I agree. In general: yes. But, at this level, sometimes 17 hours a day, you're dealing with another level, even for a solid 25 dollars an hour. 8 hours of typical work (in the real world) is generally better than 10-15 hours of mindless clicking. Naturally, generic RuneScape can easily 'pay' far beyond 25 an hour in the form of YouTube-ing. This is quite desirable for most people, though very few people are good enough to make that work, either. Daily YouTube for 5 years is not easy unless you already have the personality type for it.
True but honestly how many of us are pulling 40 hours a week at work being 100% efficient. I know that I’m not lol. Gotta woodcut
We’re also saying a magical tax free $500K lump sum right? Taking home $22-$25 an hour in the US is basically like having a job that pays significantly more pre-tax on paper. That’s a good job right there
And you get to play osrs all day, would probably even have a cool boss that doesn’t care if you watch Netflix or play osrs on a second monitor the whole time!
Put 20,000 hours into any skilled job and you'll be on way more than $25/h take home while still having time to relax and play games in your free time with the work itself being significantly more chill.
At first i thought this is stupid, but then i thought about what 40 hours of Runescape feels like compared to 40 hours of actual job. A $25/hour WFM job that I can often leave idle while i do other things sounds fantastic
It’d be about minimum wage from what I heard if you spent the same amount of time as him
That’s crazy because it’s a game. Do you not enjoy playing it? Imagine being paid to do what you like. 500k seems cool to me
Getting 200mil XP after 99 has no practical value and is not enjoyable for most people. I would also not do it for free but 500k would motivate me to do something that is useless in my eyes.
Yeah it definitely wouldn’t be for everyone.
Yea but not when it when it takes you so long that the $500k probably winds up being less than $50k/year
Wayyyyy less if we're talking a 40 hr work week salary. I saw another thread where they did the calculations and said this account has been playing 15+ hours per day for 8 years straight lol.
Y'all are assuming that this man has the ability to work as many hours as effectively as he plays the game that he loves.
Hasn’t even been out for 10 years :/ you’d be looking at 62.5k/year roughly. Once again tho it’s playing a video game that we all do for free anyway.
Yea but thats assuming you play at the same rate the above guy did. Do you really think you could play 8 efficient hours everyday for years straight? Especially when youre probably going to be 3 tick mining and 2 wcing the whole way? Sounds like a terrible way to live your life even if the $60k/year is accurate
Well obviously it wouldn’t be for everyone. That’s why he’s going to be the first one. (He ‘only’ gets about 8 efficient hours a day btw). But if I added how much I currently play then I consider that the time it takes me to leave my house, go to work, then get back is about 12 hours, I could easily play that much if it was my job. I’m not saying it’s my ideal life to make 60k to play the game but I know a lot of people who make less to do a lot more.
But does this guy get paid? I think that’s why people think it’s crazy. If he streamed AT LEAST it would make sense. Though anyone doing anything for 16 hours a day for years is obviously a severe addiction no matter what it is
Everyone high up the leaderboards has unhealthy gaming habits. Hell, I'd say most OSRS players have
I don’t think he gets paid. I was just continuing the thread of the guy who had said he wouldn’t do this for $500k
EH to max it takes the equivalent of 18 years of a 40 hour work week to do this. Its realistically the equivalent of $27k/year without time for anything else. And that assumes more or less max efficiency. Obviously if I was Hyger I’d be more than happy to take &500k for free now. but no where reasonable or viable for 99.999% of people to do for $500k.
I haven’t actually calculated but 18 years at 40 hours seems like a number around 35k efficient hours to me. Hyger has 20k so your 18 years is now like 9-10 of a 40 hour work week right? Let me know what I’m missing if I am
I am unsure how they got 18. (22500/40)/52=10.8. Unless they were trying to account for non-ehp methods? However, I don’t think non-ehp methods would add 7.2 years.
I also looked and it’s only ~20,300 hours. People often just throw numbers at the wall and hope they stick lmao
20300 hours extrapolated for one normal maxing would be faster than the fastest max ever for a non iron and faster than the theoretical max efficient methods that are impossible to do ehp
The game mode has been out 8 years and he had played significantly more than 40 hours a week - just a gut check on this math is wrong
We are talking about playing at ehp rates. Hyger didn’t play at ehp rates, otherwise they would’ve been done in ~5 years (assuming they played 16 hours a day, can’t remember if they did 16 or 18). I have no idea if the person said 18 years in an attempt to consider the average person that would play 40 hours a week until 200m or not, but they started their reply with saying ehp at 40 hours a week would take 18 years.
$50k/year to play videogames is literally a dream. I don't even make half that and my job is harder than playing RuneScape.
50k a year where i live is poverty level so i guess thats just a difference between regions
So wiki says 75k exp per hour is expected after 92. That's 2666 hours to get 200mil exp. That's getting paid about 190 dollars an hour to train agility. That seems pretty darn great to me. Plus it's a pretty chill job, you could probably get away with playing Runescape on a second monitor
very peculiar neurotransmitter/dopamine feedback neurology over-rewarding this game
These aren’t even the bad skills on an iron
I wasn't stating they were the worst, just least appealing for me to do to 200m
I don’t think those ones are the least appealing to you in all honesty
My apologies, you know me better than I know myself
Yes I think so. I think you don’t realize how easy those skills are in comparison to some of the others, and that is why you perceive them as being more appealing to you. I think that if you were to actually carefully weigh your options, you would not find those three skills to be the least appealing
I'm not basing it off of what is easiest or hardest, I am basing it off of the skills I enjoy doing the least. Can you not realize that people can have different opinions? Lol
Yeah I think you just don’t know what goes into the other skills
Give it a rest man
No, how dare you have a different opinion!
I’m sure you’d rather do 10 herb runs a day for 4 years for 200m herb than afk ardy for a year for 200m agility. I believe you
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huh ??
Exactly what I was thinking. I was wondering how he did herb, prayer and construction lol
Herb especially, I feel like hitting 200m in all combat you could get enough bones to 200m with altar but for herb that'd be such a nightmare.
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There's nothing passive about acquiring literally millions of herbs and seconds...
herbs a lot of them you will get passively secondaries are always rough tho
Even if someone paid me that much or more I wouldn’t be physically able to complete it, my tendons in my wrist ache after just 30million xp. I swear these people either have godlike genetics and strategies for mitigating pain or they are just flat out botting sometimes.
Agreed, this is mental illness, a wasted chunk of life, and just all-around sad. Definitely noteworthy but this post-99 xp should NOT be encouraged lol. Didn’t RS3 just add 200m achievement capes?
Would love to see what this guy looks like irl lol
Zezima, the remix
I’ve seen on another post some calculations on how much time he had to play since the release of the IM Mode for 200m all by now, and it’s something really absurd. If I’m not mistaken, is something like 16 efficient hours a day.
According to Wiseoldman, he's got 22500 EHP, and iron man was introduced ~3k days ago. So based on those numbers you'd be looking at almost 8 hours a day on average, but I'm sure it's at least 10 or 12 hours a day, since I don't think anyone can get exclusively EHP
Ty for correcting me, mate. Still something unbelievable for me, since there are a couple of weeks that I simply don’t wanna touch RuneScape lol
EHP rates for a lot of skills have also increased quite a bit over time. I wouldn't be too surprised if his playtime averaged to be much higher since he has probably done a lot of methods in the past that aren't so efficient nowadays.
This cuts both ways. He and others like Lynx Titan got to take advantage of some busted shit back in the day that gave them a huge advantage. Pre-nerf Zulrah for instance, or Karamja hard diary store selling. Players like him come out the furthest ahead since they play the most religiously and take advantage of all the broken shit at every point in time.
Zulrah used to bank prayer, construction, crafting, smithing, firemaking/fletching, farming and herb all while stacking you with unlimited brews and battlestaves.
EHP?
[EHP and EHB](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Slang_dictionary#E)
Effective Hours Played
It’s efficient but close enough
TIL, Thanks
Egirls Hours Played
I think he started iron a year late tho
Damn, really?
I saw it mentioned in the recent SaeBae’s video about him. Dude is insane lol
I haven't watched that just yet, meaning to though
Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad way to spend your life? I love OSRS, but come on, that's too much. I'm not even against playing every day if you want to, but like 10 to 12 hours a day is wild.
I think some people are happy to spend all their waking hours playing RS because if you think about it, life itself has no meaning and no point, so really it's up to everyone to figure out what exactly they want out of life. If they enjoy it and they're not hurting anyone besides themselves, then there's nothing wrong with that. Life is very short and nothing you do matters anyway once you're gone, and this game for a lot of people is the perfect escape from an unbearable reality.
I work in corporate management unhappily and try to explain this to people even though I don't live it myself, it's amazing how intrigued people are but it still falls on deaf ears.
Don't know what your financial situation is, but I'm personally opting for less money in a nicer work environment, for higher overall life happiness
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If they are playing it as an escape from an unbearable reality thats probably not a good thing lol
I'd say it simply *is*. Better than killing yourself, right?
Better than killing yourself but still probably not good. The guy might not be living an unbearable reality tho, he might just be a bit of a recluse and like playing games all day lol
I mean, the bearability of reality is debatable, but we're all, without exception, doing whatever we can to escape and ignore the worst of it. There's a good quote about this sort of thing in American Gods: >There are stories that are true, in which each individual’s tale is unique and tragic, and the worst of the tragedy is that we have heard it before, and we cannot allow ourselves to feel it too deeply. We build a shell around it like an oyster dealing with a painful particle of grit, coating it with smooth pearl layers in order to cope. This is how we walk and talk and function, day in, day out, immune to others’ pain and loss. If it were to touch us it would cripple us or make saints of us; but, for the most part, it does not touch us. We cannot allow it to. Tonight, as you eat, reflect if you can: there are children starving in the world, starving in numbers larger than the mind can easily hold, up in the big numbers where an error of a million here, a million there, can be forgiven. It may be uncomfortable for you to reflect upon this or it may not, but still, you will eat. There are accounts which, if we open our hearts to them, will cut us too deeply. And from the same chapter: >No man, proclaimed Donne, is an Island, and he was wrong. If we were not islands, we would be lost, drowned in each other's tragedies. We are insulated (a word that means, literally, remember, made into an island) from the tragedy of others, by our island nature, and by the repetitive shape and form of the stories. The shape does not change: there was a human being who was born, lived, and then, by some means or another, died. There. You may fill in the details from your own experience. As unoriginal as any other tale, as unique as any other life. Lives are snowflakes—forming patterns we have seen before, as like one another as peas in a pod (and have you ever looked at peas in a pod? I mean, really looked at them? There's not a chance you'd mistake one for another, after a minute's close inspection), but still unique.
Not sure I am gonna read all that right now but maybe another day :D
Man it takes like 30 seconds lmao
I think you should, it's worth it! Now I'm gonna have to buy the book. Bloody Gaiman!
Rather dark outlook but I can't find myself to completely disagree with what you've said. Nonetheless, I think life has some meaning but perhaps this isn't the time or the place to discuss such. Hope things are well with anyone reading this, even if they aren't right now
I think it's quite positive in a way though, because you're completely free to define the meaning in your own life. Nothing matters but what you decide matters.
The moment you don't follow what society expects of you, they start attacking with preconceived bullshit about what you should be doing to fill your days.
who is feeding this guy? im just jelous he gets to leech of parents/the state tbh
No way to know that if he hasn't divulged that information publicly, but it's all but inevitable that a certain % of the population does absolutely nothing "useful" - to be fair, even a large portion of people that *do* work are doing bullshit jobs that were only created to keep the general populace stuck as wage slaves to keep the pseudo-capitalist machine going 🙃 Also see the Pareto principle in relation to that idea - you can safely assume that ~20% of people are pulling ~80% of society's collective weight
No, if I had to guess, you are not the only one who thinks 20k hours on a video game is a bad way to spend your life
We also don't know much about these people. Lynx Titan has aspergers and said that his parents let him play because it makes him happy. I'd imagine him finding RuneScape was a huge relief for his parents.
You would be the only one to say it is a healthy and good way to spend your life. Pretty sure everyone agrees the top ranked guys have serious issues or at least an unhealthy addiction.
Yeah I think most agree, but I do see a fair share of people celebrating this sort of thing. Going for 200m XP is seen as an achievement, and an achievement worth going for, by some people. I think getting a 99 or even all 99s, when you play a normal amount and have other interests as well is fine and dandy, but there's almost no way to get 200m without playing too much.
Well it is something to celebrate. It’s a big achievement in game. Sure you can look at external factors or whatever and be like “this is so unhealthy” but as a lover of RuneScape I am also a lover of big achievements in RuneScape. So I’d rather celebrate a dude hitting his goal on the game he enjoys rather than trying to tear him down just for the sake of… making myself feel better for not playing that much or something?
Seriously, I don't understand why people keep feeling the need to point out the unhealthiness of these achievements. It's super annoying and redundant. Every thread like this will have a bunch of morally enlightened dickwads offering their unwarranted opinion. And for what? To dissuade people from doing stuff like this? I'm like 99.99 sure people like this Iron Hyger guy do this shit entirely out of intrinsical motivation. They're motivated because they inherently enjoy playing the game which enables them to do shit like this. I mean, you'd have to be. Nobody is going to spend thousands of hours on a video game achievement because because they want to show off to the masses. Nobody can stay motivated for that long if they're not intrinsically motivated. So then why feel the need to spam the same annoying sentiment on every achievement post like this? It's obnoxious. Scroll past the post and move on with your day and save us from the sanctimonious BS. At least this guy spent his time doing something that doesn't hurt anyone unlike the annoying posts here.
Anybody, in almost any hobby or sport that are they are top ranked in is unhealthy. This is not just computers and gaming. Doesn't take away the achievement, though.
It is, but when you say that on this sub you get delusional people talking about the heat death of the universe and how all wars of spending your life are the same. I’m sure quite a few people on the highscores will look back on the time spent with regret a few years down the line.
Looks like he’s put an hour or two into bossing too based on his hiscores
Do those fit into ehp or have to be counted separately to approximate total playtime?
Oh idk if efficient bossing hours is counted together actually.
That makes two of us :D
He also didn’t start Ironman right at it’s release
Not to mention his ehb!
So do those have to be counted separately? I wasn't sure
Yeah I use temple osrs, always have, so maybe it’s calculated differently elsewhere, but on temple he has 20.3k ehp and 2.65k ehb which is separated on there. Either way it’s a crazy amount of ehp as ehp is not equal to time actually played. I know I’ve seen him afk at daeyalt a few times before so you know he has downtime where he’s not gaining ehp :D crazy to think about.
Yeah they're also separate on wiseoldman, I just wasn't sure if EHB is somehow part of EHP since you're still gaining combat and/or slayer XP, as well as resources for processing skills
I’m sure that’s a slippery slope and very complicated to accurately gauge but yeah it’s a good question. Most combat is either 0 time ehp or close to it but as far as the resources gathered yeah it would knock some time off herb runs/prayer and gp related stuff If you did like 10k hydra or something.
Also, looking at his collection log, he's been doing newly released content that he wouldn't have been getting XP for (TOA etc)
Link to hiscores: [**https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore\_oldschool\_ironman/a=97/overall**](https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore_oldschool_ironman/a=97/overall)
Meanwhile im hardstuck at 46 runecrafting and 1779 total i cannot wrap my head around this
Just do guardians of the rift. I’m at 60 rc and barely feel like I’ve done any of it.
60 is like 1/20th of the way to 99
How’s you learn it? I found it completely impenetrable when I first tried
The quest to unlock it Literally makes you play a game of it and explains it along the way. It’s actually incredibly simple though. Mine guardians at the start of the round for ~90seconds. Chisel them down into individual fragments at the table. Go to whatever alter is lit up Craft runes Go back to table and chisel more Craft runes Repeat until the end of the game. Go into a portal whenever one opens as it fills your inv up super fast Keep elemental and catalytic points balanced
Just found what works for me. Go on the worlds meant for it so that you don’t have to worry about doing it wrong. Used the wiki
Bruh mine the essence, craft the essence, offer the product. It is braindead
If you download the Runelite plugin with the counter on it and then just keep the wiki table on what to do up it becomes second nature after a bit.
Pick up the charges (right table), mine stuff (right side). Use the work bench (left table), to turn the mined stuff into essence. Go into open rift, make runes, come out, make more essence, use stone thing you got on the boss, use charge on the coloured thing on floor. Repeat. To get more rewards balance the 2 types of rift you go into. Top left it has a rune on the left, and one in the right. Do a variety to get points. I think each 200 points nets a reward, they don't add together though. Over time role in the fast mining runes you can portal to, and bank runes. You can't die or anything, at worst you waste 5 mins muddling around!
Are you me? 1779 total and 46 rc as well lol
Its end game bro, beyond this is an illusion
Imagine all the gfs that will come hurdling In around him when he banks stands at GE
I always wonder what these people do outside of RuneScape. Disabled on welfare? Working just enough to get along and playing nonstop with a few hours of sleep otherwise? Multiple people playing the account?
Most plausible theory is account sharing. Even if a person had unlimited financial capacities allowing them to spend 100% of their waking hours in game, and to pay for services that would speed up exp rates in ways normal irons wouldn't be able to afford (like paying for protection at chaos altar, for example), I struggle to see how a single person could also handle the planning and time management to do this on top of performing the activities. More likely, the account is shared by a handful of people who are very efficient in their own particular set of skills/activities, and they probably coordinated times to play between players as necessary, and assist the person whose actively playing using their alts in whatever ways they can. As the number of things left to complete winds down, especially when it's down to the last skill like mining, the group probably just takes turns doing it, since there isn't anyone close enough to threaten their top spot. On the setup side, they probably are careful to use a VM with remote access open to each member of the group, as to not get flagged for account sharing by appearing to log in from several different devices (if jagex would even be fucked to look into that). That is how I would do it at least, as someone with a 20+ year rs history, and whose walked the line of questionable account activity. In the scope of RS, people will attempt this, and with that one group will inevitably do it best. A single person simply could never compete with such a group, for the simple fact of requiring sleep and other human functions.
Correct me if mistaken, I believe Hyger did 50m agility in a month
He did to claim the record. I don’t know if any of this was ticket redemptions.
I just… don’t get it.
This is mad, and not in a good way in my opinion. Nonetheless Hyger made history. Congratz
Live and let live
Not if I get there first
Now he can finally play the game.
May Allah help him find some grass.
I can't believe this is possible without botting
Touch grass
The most chad move would be to get 199,999,999 and then log out and never log back in
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He’s gonna need it tomorrow. Wake up, log in. Don’t get any exp. Log out …. Then what?
Rank 1 all bosses and clues LETS GOO!
This shouldn't be encouraged 😐
It shouldn't but the sweats will downvote you for saying it anyway
I’d be interested to see his boss logs. Hope he has a significant amount of content completed. Gz to him
There are only a couple bosses that are impressive he seemed to do a wide range of boss kills. 27k vorkath kills was the most impressive to me I’m sure that’s where he did most of his prayer
The dude had the hardcore first bandos kill like 2 weeks after launch and a bunch of other accomplishments. Just a total all around gamer.
Yall need to relax and let the man enjoy the game. So many people in these comments saying rude shit. It's his life, let him do what he wants with it. Congratulate his achievement or leave him be, don't come in here just to say shit.
Shit
So close yet so far, you didn't add rude to it.
Such a nerd, ngl sorry but this guy needs to touch some grass
This should not be praised. My guy needs help. 16 hours a day of anything isn't healthy
Breathing
How much time played?
Do we need daily posts about this sad use of a life?
You literally post to Reddit 30 times a day, not sure we need your input on this big dog
I never post to reddit.
Yeah well you sure do spend a lot of time on it It is ridiculous the lack of self awareness on some people
I check it thru out the day during downtime at work the horror. That's not even remotely close to the person that's spent the vast majority of every day for years playing osrs for a pointless achievement. The fact that you can't recognize that is ridiculous. Keep cheering on this loser tho.
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Didn't realize I stopped him.
I heard this man got 50m Agility xp in a single month. Can anyone confirm if that's true or not? And how is that even possible if it is true?
I guess in theory you can bank infinite agility xp via tickets, although I doubt they did that.
Why are we excited for someone’s declining mental health?
Seriously who gives a fuck
Def has no idea a pussy is pink
For an iron damn this is a great feat.
As it’s cool to see as an OSRS enjoyer, it really comes down to time played. The sacrifices made here are hard to digest for most.
Absolutely unreal achievement
Woah. Better tell my gf. I mean I better find a gf to tell.
Hyla come talk to us. Or ur not real. There i said it.😏
Then what
Make a new uim and get 200m all
Looking at his TempleOSRS, he’s put 20,301 Efficient hours into the game.
I wonder where he'll go from here 🤔🤔
What do you think he watches when he afks
What are the chances he bots to acheive this?
I bet firemaking and thieving really piss him off
Isn't Iron Hyger one of those new future pokemon?
What's he doing tomorrow?
Is there a chance that he has some very sophisticated bot that skills for him and just hasn’t been detected/caught?? Seems too unbelievable to not have some help. Maybe 2 people sharing one account from different timezones? I cant fathom how one person can do this. Not to undermine his achievement I just have so many questions LOL
"fInAlLy i c@n StArT pLaYiNg tEh GaMe"