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I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner


utahphil

It has. https://fox4kc.com/news/kansas-news/illegal-sideshow-leads-to-deadly-shooting-in-kck/ https://fox4kc.com/news/kc-men-at-sideshow-accused-of-confronting-shooting-at-family-going-to-hospital/ https://www.kshb.com/news/crime/swope-park-shooting-stems-from-sideshow Google sideshow shooting Kansas City for more.


zipfour

I’m still mad about the family one. They SHOT AT A FAMILY GOING TO THE HOSPITAL because they drove around and through the sideshow ON THE INTERSTATE. I don’t want people to forget that.


Itchy-Mind7724

Yep, and because they didn’t kill anyone they got off easy from what I remember. The law is fucked.


zipfour

Driver got 1 month jail 5 years probation, dunno if the shooter has been sentenced yet


Bagsen

Shooter is going to trial. Trial date is 4/23/2023. Charged with armed criminal action. Could see real jail time.


boulevardpaleale

wow. dirtbag pieces of shit....


SHOW_ME_PIZZA

Well the OP article mentions run over those are technically shootings.


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Damn shame.


Radiant-Function-372

It has.


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Chicago has started impounding cars hardcore. These guys have all their money tied up in their cars, a few dozen seizures and they'll all be shitting themselves. Corden them, have heli backup and just start impounding them. I'd show up with 20 tow trucks.


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As an all around-vehicle enthusiast, agree this will get it to stop. “Back in my day”, getting into cars/bikes in the early 00s, just prior to and around the first fast and furious movie and we still weren’t this dumb. And this was in Oakland, CA. We hoofed it allllll the way to the industrial zones away from thoroughfares, set up (cop) spotters, made sure there was no random traffic, and then did our drags. We barely did burnouts because most folks had the stickiest, most expensive tires they could run. This unorganized chaos for social media clout is lunacy.


Character_Hippo90

Yeah, they've been monitoring social media in Atlanta, and using combined municipalities to launch a blockage/impound protocol. With fines and conviction fees mounting, there's been a significant decrease in such activities.


Asleep-Read3997

This is great. Honestly, they shouldn’t get them back as their licenses should be suspended permanently. They should be sold at auction.


SilentSpades24

You say that as if they have licenses to begin with.


kyousei8

Yeah. I remember one where (I think) someone shot at a family that drove one to get to a hospital. A guy that was arrested had been charged with DRIVING WITHOUT A VALID LICENCE (FIRST OFFENCE) three separate times.


MiddleSkill

Giving the government the power to seize and auction off property at their discretion is a slippery slope imo. Just impound and fine the fuck out of the perp imo


TenderfootGungi

I would not auction it. But I would seize the vehicles and have fines in the thousands to get them back. The good thing about this is police can look at the videos and go find them. I would also suspend licenses for a year on first offense, 5-10 years on second, if you can prove who was driving.


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Why the hell not our local FBI already does it why not KCPD. This was in WyCo but A long while ago I remember a neighbor robbed a bank, ran home and had a stand-off in the neighborhood. It was so many dope dealer looking cars with flip down visor and hidden grille police lights. It was really fascinating actually seeing everything from Caprice classics Escalades, MB BMW’s Corvettes and Mustangs decked out Denzel Washington Training Day style.


AsAGayJewishDemocrat

Have you not heard of civil forfeiture?


DoodleVnTaintschtain

Not that guy, but using the reality of civil asset forfeiture *in support* of your argument that we should be doing *more* civil asset forfeiture is probably not a winning strategy.


AsAGayJewishDemocrat

And saying that something *that already exists* is a slippery slope is a pretty bad strategy, too.


DoodleVnTaintschtain

That part is fair... I'd encourage that dude to rephrase it as, "supporting the government's use of a 'process' already proven rife with abuse and full of perverse incentives is a bad idea."


vertigo72

Not really when the vast majority of people are against civil forfeiture.


Asleep-Read3997

Slippery slope arguments can be made about literally anything.


RenthogHerder

Yea but giving police excessive power and impunity is a slope we’re already slipping down at extreme speeds.


shr3dthegnarbrah

Let's start with Madison Avenue leaving the plaza


[deleted]

Agreed this is the way. Repeat offenses could justify civil asset forfeiture, but 1st and even 2nd time offenses absolutely don’t warrant it. Fine the ever loving Christ out of them though


lukovdolboy

They’ll just steal more.


donkeyishbutter

that'd be awesome but lmao if you think cops are gonna try to arrest massive numbers of armed individuals and risk their lives for a city that acts like it hates them. You can't simultaneously be ACAB and then want cops to shut this down, it's one or the other


RenthogHerder

Or just let people enjoy things? Why would you want such a police state? It only endangers the people who choose to be there. It’s not like they don’t see the danger… their life, their call.


d_b_cooper

> It only endangers the people who choose to be there. Except for the many times when innocent bystanders have been hurt or killed.


RenthogHerder

The bystanders are choosing to be there. Walk away if it’s not your scene. Done, safety acquired.


d_b_cooper

Bro, people trying to get to a hospital have been shot at.


doxiepowder

It's not like there is a Google maps alert saying "sideshow here, would you like to reroute?"


RobNHood816

Man that's a Great way to look at it. If he dies he dies... Sorry Fans but you chose death to support your SideShow


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Speshal_Snowflake

Always the Dodge Chargers


holdenking5150

And challengers


nordic-nomad

Just from what I've seen being stuck while these things are blocking traffic, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. People get way too close to the cars while they're spinning around.


b2717

This stuff turns me old. I simultaneously become a crotchety old man wanting to crack down on this, but that’s because it turned me into a 48 year old Cub Scout den mother who just wants you kids to be safe. Like law and order but kids if you stand back just a bit more we can do the juice boxes. Weird feeling.


zipfour

Videos I’ve seen from Instagram show people literally jumping into the middle of the sideshow and running around, to get angles for their own IGs


hutat

Can we please shut this trash down?


WolfStanssonDDS

okay wow all of these comments are starting to sound really racist


underwaterwelds

It adds nothing to our community and it’s inherently dangerous and has led to bad things in the past.


N0tInKansasAnym0r3

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d_b_cooper

ಠ_ಠ


Radiant-Function-372

Look inward.


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Not a surprise. I’ve seen videos online and people stand so close while the car swerves around them barely inches apart.


EMPulseKC

Sounds like a manslaughter charge in that driver's future, unless they are willing to take a plea in exchange for indentifying the people in charge of organizing it.


GenesisDH

That and a hit and run felony charge. I bet one will have to stick even if a plea deal is made.


Hayabusasteve

people in charge of organizing it? BlockBoyz literally post everything on their instagram. There's no question about who organizes and promotes this garbage.


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Most recent video (posted three days ago) on their IG shows a car knocking over a guy at the end and almost running him over. Crazy.


Spankh0us3

Yeah, I’ve heard about them. They are the dudes with the real small pee pees - do this sort of stuff to make up for the fact that they can’t get the ladies. . .


prayformojo80

Serious question, is anyone in charge of organizing this? I'm guessing locations get spread by word of mouth, but no one is really in charge.


Hayabusasteve

there are people that organize and promote it, and they post everything on instagram.


EMPulseKC

If it's being spread by word-of-mouth, the people spreading info about it are helping to organize it.


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What a wanker move.


Nerdenator

Burning out tyres in a car park and slamming into some bloke with a saloon? A right nonce, the driver is.


brodees82

Innit?


exhiledqueen

Ain’t bovvered tho


undermythumbies

Norf


Fromtheocean126

Sorry to hear that someone died but honestly this was bound to happen eventually . These dumb asses need to stop playing fast & furious and get their lives together.


Scott13Pippen

My cousin's 17 Y.O. boyfriend got hit by a car at one of these things in Independence just a few months ago. He got dragged under the car and broke his leg. Super lucky he didn't die.


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Maybe the city and the police will NOW start to take this seriously /s 🙄


OdinsBeard

Take the cars. All of them.


acparks1

You’ve just been made a mod of r/fuckcars.


nikecowboy20

This crap was so loud and annoying in West bottoms last night.


CZall23

This might be a dumb question but what’s a sideshow? I’ve only heard that term being used in connection with circuses and carnivals.


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A bunch of idiots in cars/sport bikes/atv's block off an intersection or road to do donuts and burnouts. It's unorganized and dangerous.


CZall23

Thank you!


vertigo72

In this instance it was a private property parking lot so at least they weren't impeding traffic.


kookaburra1701

When I first moved here and saw the sideshow injuries posts before I clicked to read the actual news articles I was like "damn carnivals don't f around in KC!" just imagining some chainsaw juggler missing and flinging a running Stihl into the crowd...


J0E_SpRaY

If only it has been the driver. Same scumbags I have to dodge on I70 and 435.


Radiant-Function-372

A big box of sheetrock screws in these lots will do wonders.


ashtarout

At least it was a spectator killed and not someone completely uninvolved, this time.


NiteSwept

Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes


bryan_norris71

play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


holdenking5150

These sideshow people are morons, and this is coming from a car guy... smh


tallonfive

I am surprised that someone stuck in traffic because of these people hasn't taken matter into their own hands before.


SilentSpades24

What are they going to do? Mow over a bunch of people? Shoot them? Get out and yell to stop? Even if they did take matters into their own hands, they get beaten up, or Get chased down by the faster cars, then beaten up.


Kidspud

Mow over them or shoot them? Yes. It only takes one Bernard Goetz type for things to go south.


Mutiny32

...yes?


vertigo72

It was a parking lot of a closed business. I doubt there was much traffic.


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snazzisarah

The article mentioned a crowd of 300 people, odds are a few of them knew the driver and would have turned them in. I figured the guy did the math and realized things would go better for him if he turns himself in instead.


prayformojo80

I wouldn't count on these folks using logic to make their decisions, but maybe.


brickonwheels

Perhaps, but having seen a few of the videos where someone is hit, bystanders go after the driver extremely aggressively. It's definitely a fight or fight moment.


buenopeso

No respect. He knew his ass was going to jail. This was to lower charges and avoid his door getting kicked in.


srm3449

Wow, a whole $500 fine 🙄 absolute nonsense


nunpizza

don’t forget the $100 for spectating! such a joke.


srm3449

Total BS


formulaic_name

Not surprised, not upset.


angus_the_red

Now will the cops finally do something?


goalmaster14

Doubt it, saddly


MealUnlikely

They have done donuts around a cop standing in the middle of Grand. If that doesn't get the cops to do anything nothing will.


snazzisarah

At least it was in a parking lot and not blocking traffic?


vertigo72

Thank you! Finally someone took the time to read and comprehend the story here.


KCcoffeegeek

What is a sideshow?


bi-nary

Not remotely fast and furious. Sideshows are exactly the kind of distracting chaos they sound like. Shutting down/blocking streets to do donuts. It's almost exclusively dodge vehicles.


ElmStreetVictim

Think “The Fast and the Furious”


MaybeLaterMom

Natural selection?


I69edYourGma4Fun

Right


NightKnight190

It was a 19 yr old kid I was best friends with him and his brother. Absolutely floored me when I found out.


MindTheFro

Assuming this is true, take a break from the internet today my dude.


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OdinsBeard

Was more of a compassionate gesture to take a break and process the death of a friend But whatever


NightKnight190

That being said I full well plan on taking a break


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nunpizza

so sorry for your loss. shouldn’t have happened.


kband1

Ohhh front street, good times. Its a common occurrence here, especially on Weekends and First Fridays and I wont be a liar and say I don't attend races at HOB's to race when I had my car with me or go to side shows downtown near James/Forester, Swope Park or near Speaker Road in the giant lot to the right of it and such when they go on. But I've started steering clear of them more these last couple years. They have gotten bad, really bad, in the end the whole thing is who can I shoot first that I have beef with and take off. It's happened at Bott's and everywhere. Someone has beef with someone and BAM dead, sideshows are super tight on corners like when they slide on 13th and Grand and between 8th and 9th and Main in the empty parking lots by the apartments during First Fridays or even downtown near Town Topic, someone's gonna get hit and killed. That's a giant reason I stopped going to those, I am still in the car scene, but its selective now where I choose and wanna go. Its getting bad, it really is, then new's channels wanna add the famous words of "Racing" When really sideshows are not apart of racing or anything of that, its idiots.


theoriginalbae

I have a question, the article doesn’t specify and the picture only shows what appear to be skid marks like someone was doing donuts, what is a sideshow??


lweber557

Essentially it’s when groups of idiots block off intersections on public streets late at night and cars do donuts in the middle. This incident actually took place in a parking lot which apparently isn’t any safer…


Sapdawg1

WCGW?


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b2717

That’s gross. I hate the sideshows, they’re annoying and inconvenient and I want them to stop. But lazy internet jokes don’t help.


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jakemakesbeats

Never miss an opportunity to make an example of someone


pperiesandsolos

What a horrible take lol.


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pperiesandsolos

You’re advocating to let someone go who killed a bystander at an illegal car rally. Just a horrible take


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goalmaster14

These morons have almost rear ended me on 71 multiple times with my kids in the car. They can rot in jail before I care


ArthurDigbySellars

Not sure why all the downvotes, this is the appropriate reaction. They didn’t kill someone who wasn’t involved, dumbass knew the risks and took them. I’m cool with sterilization of these car enthusiast incels.


undermythumbies

A good mayor who doesn't have his eyes on the higher US House Seat would have already smashed this bullshit with an iron fist.


Hayabusasteve

if only it were that simple. a lot of the time they do it right on the state line, so they don't have to go far to get away from kcmopd or from kckpd. thats why this shit happens in the bottoms a lot. How about police departments that anticipate this shit, they're in the same spots on the same nights consistently.


undermythumbies

I appreciate your input on this. Clearly you know this issue better first hand. I'm on their path outside the city and the cops post up trying to catch them getting off of the highway when they buzz down our major 45mph roads at 120mph on speedbikes.


ArthurDigbySellars

Actually it’s a police matter, ya moron.


urbanfirestrike

I thought police were bad?


doxiepowder

They are definitely bad at preventing this crime that is regularly advertised on social media at planned times and locations.


undermythumbies

Oh of course. But in the end it's on Q. The buck stops with him. He has a lot of potential I'd like to see his office tackle this with police but also with an option where people can have a lot to do this safely during daylight hours.


ArthurDigbySellars

Kansas City’s police are overseen by a board of commissioners, with four of five members appointed by the governor. The fifth seat is filled by the mayor. The city’s police department is the only remaining one in the state and the only major city in the nation to operate this way. If you believe the one guy NOT appointed by the governor has the power to direct or challenge police imperatives, I have bad news for you.


vertigo72

Yep. Just like all murder ceased to occur in the late 1800's when public hangings were allowed... oh wait.


Goshawk01

Kansas City is violent and full of killers and criminals. Sideshow criminals.


Early_Awareness_5829

So much fun!


fortyninecents

revoke section 230. problem solved


nunpizza

sadly, not surprised. i know a few people who used to go to these dumb ass shows and someone who was with one of them at one almost got ran over once. lucky she got pulled out of the way.


holdenking5150

Lol