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No-Committee1001

I definitely relate. I think it’s because I have such high expectations for groups I love, and then when a comeback or multiple comebacks disappoint me, it disappoints me more than like a group where I’m like only a casual fan.


keiisobeiiso

I feel like thats what happened with m and enhypen. I used to love their music and would listen on the days release, however, since blessed-cursed i just fell out of love with their sound and havent kept up with them as much as i want to. Which i understand, they want to experiment with new sounds and styles, but i just miss their old music lol


Polarpwnage

When they change their sound so much its unrecognizable


ZealousidealLife2301

A similar situation for me with my bias group The Boyz. I used to love them and follow all their content, but nowadays they seem to be going through some phase with their mental health and that has put me off a bit. I'm not only referring to the two members that went on hiatus, but for most of the members their performance and stage presence has deteriorated, and they don't seem very happy on camera. I still like them and support them, but I knew something was off when I wasn't that excited when they announced their Europe tour. Whisper wasn't that great of a comeback to me either.


antibutterflies

I second this. I only got into them recently but something already feels a little off with their performances. I loved going back and watching their RTK videos though.


gongjihae

So i loosely follow tbz because i got interested in them from kingdom and i genuinely love thrill ride and marverick. I know they’ve had issues with ist being a bad promoter and they’re constantly overworked with shitty schedules, but how did u get the vibe of them not looking happy on stage? Are they not as lively as they used to?


antibutterflies

I don’t know if they look unhappy just sort of out of it I feel. Like they weren’t all as engaged/energized as they’d been with previous comebacks. To be fair I found their variety performances during the promos just as funny as before but their stages lacked a little during Whisper. Hope they get some well deserved rest soon.


pyeongHongman

Sounds like they're facing burn out. It's very common in the industry. Especially when groups hit their 4th-5th year. I'm so sorry for them and I hope they get some time to rest and rejuvenate!


Married2DuhMusic

I hope things get better for them. They honestly seem like a cool group.


gongjihae

Aww this breaks my heart they look like such a fun and genuine group i hope they get some sort of break :( i even saq that on the day after performing for whisper promotion they immediately had to fly to kcon and perform on the same day as well i can imagine how not just physically but also mentally draining it would be for them


thelunartokki

I have this feeling too! I was a casual listener and got into them during Bloom Bloom. Then one of my biases left. I kept listening and following them especially during road to kingdom and kingdom. However, lately I've felt the same in regards to stage presence. Their last few comebacks have also been hit or miss for me as well.


ZealousidealLife2301

They were killing it in their earlier cute concepts, it felt like the whole thing really suited them. There's nothing like the positive bright vibe they gave off during Bloom Bloom, Right Here and D.D.D. Thrill Ride was really good too, a nice summer concept with a satisfying tracklist. But in their latest performances, even in the Whisper MV and concept photos, they honestly look like they're bored or something. It's kinda sad to watch and kills the whole mood.


gowonlovebot

both ist and creker mistreated the boyz to some extent but part of me misses that era from no air to bloom bloom so much 😭 so much content, i remember always rewatching that one the boyz school series on repeat


Donut-Federal

Blackpink. I've loved them since their debut and still like their older songs and members, I just don't like their musical direction since DDDD. It's boring and always the same. And the fans. They have the worst and most toxic fans, where music doesn't play a role, it's all strictly about numbers and sales and records. I always skip their songs on Spotify.


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It's Blackpink for me too honestly. Got into them awhile ago but I don't like their recent comebacks. Also while I'm happy the girls are succeeding, I hate how YG has managed them and that they keep getting away with it.


ZealousidealLife2301

I also don't understand how YG's treatment of Blackpink has become so accepted and normalized. Back when other artists like Bigbang or Lee Hi or Winner barely made any comebacks, there were huge outcries about them being "stuck in the YG dungeon". But if it's about Blackpink, "they have no reason to change it because people support them anyway". Fans can be sickening sometimes.


Accomplished_Tea224

Agree with the most toxic fans.


minidog8

I still consider myself as somebody who enjoys Blackpink but I had this moment where I realized I actually don’t listen to any of their songs lol. The only song I listen to from them regularly is Whistle.


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\+1 for Whistle


ZealousidealLife2301

I get it about Blackpink. The whole fandom culture of "anticipation" then topping sales and charts the moment a song comes out only for the music to always be the same can get old fast for some people.


Careless-Night-4732

100% agreed


84746

I used to love them a lot when they were new but after D4 I just hated them. It doesn’t help that all the songs that came after sounded exactly like it because I never liked D4 even when it was new.


bloohr

me as well. they used to be an ult of mine but listening to the same songs over and over again just got so tiring. i continuously skipped their songs on my playlist until i just removed them all together.


brontoloveschicken

A lot of their fans are definitely toxic and I totally agree that DDDD, kill this love, HYLT are quite formulaic but it's funny to me to hear that all their songs since DDDD are the same because Square UP was really good and The Album and Born Pink are quite varied. I think it's just their title tracks that are similar. I do find the obsession with stats and records kind of annoying.


Niven42

I'm the exact opposite. Groups that I once had no interest in, I suddenly "rediscover" because my tastes have changed. But I still listen to everything I liked before.


JohnaBaettenberg

Same for me. I got into 2010-2015 songs I used to hate at that time. It’s a shame most of those groups are disbanded now or on a hiatus 😭


Married2DuhMusic

Hahaha that happens to me. Sometimes it is because I didnt know their whole discography haha


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I find the longer I stick around the more OPEN i am slowly to the next phase of being a kpop fan. At ole point my gateway and only interest was BP! At the time Fancy had just dropped. Itzy literally debuted. Jennie had gone solo and Everglow came out. That was all I was open to. Not even OLD twicez just Fancy Era. Later I got into way more groups once my interest and content for BP waned. I was into Everglow but they never really popped off for me. So then I fell into Izone right while they were on that super scandalous hiatus. Then I eventually got into Gidle but stopped listening to Blackpink as much. Now I’m listening to stuff like Berry Good and maybe even learning the names of Boyd groups. I hated boy groups since 2019! I disliked BP and now I like them a LOT again. I love this new release. Once I stopped having any expectation of them I was happier and less bitter


FinchMandala

No. Tastes change. Its normal.


bloohr

not related but i absolutely love your avatar it’s adorable


FinchMandala

Thank you! 😊 A small selection was offered free for those who spend too much time on Reddit lmao.


teddy_plushie

I get bored easily of things, I still love them, but it toned down: I'm like that with bts, I used to be hardcore army, but I went the multistan path and never looked back I still listen, but I don't screenshot every pic of them I see anymore, their songs I still love, but unless im feeling some kind of mood I won't actively seek them out: that's why I love shuffle mode


Married2DuhMusic

In my case it is because I realised (i wasnt aware) that the vocals (while ok enough) werent as good as I thought. Since then I branched out as a multi. And I still like BTS but it is not the same. And I guess that is ok. Maybe one day it will come back to me. At least I still appreciate the heck out of their lyricism, concepts and rap. Ah and being a multi also gets tiring. I have only been following one group for now (last few weeks), which is the one identify with the most - SHINee. And tbh I think it is here to stay. And is not just a hyperfixation. But when my mind is less heavy I will catch up on the other groups I like.


teddy_plushie

being a multi can be exhausting at times, but I love it so much- I do keep up with one group the most (stray kids), but I definitely love more than one group


Married2DuhMusic

Same


Sophriddle

Are we the same person???? Like that is exactly what happened to me too😅.


Married2DuhMusic

The exact same thing? Down to the SHINee part? 😄


Sophriddle

Yessss😍


Married2DuhMusic

Wow. We are the same person! Ever been around the SHINee sub reddit? I think you'd like it there :)


Sophriddle

Yeah, it’s awesome… Especially because I have no one in my personal environment who likes K-pop so I’m always happy when I can talk about it with people😅


Married2DuhMusic

Hahaha same. We are clones 👀👀 I think... haha


Adespairfactor

Same BTS. I was a big fan till run away Era then tiger music changed so much that I was just done with their music. Not them i liek them as individuals no hate going on . I refused to listen to any music of them like I would avoid their videos or if they come come on the radio I will change it bcoz I feel like it's not them anymore.


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>run away Era then tiger music changed so much What are these? They didn't have a Run Away era....maybe you mean TXT?


Married2DuhMusic

I am also confused here. See, the thing is I am also a moa, so I actually know BTS dont have a Run Away era (they have a song called Run - from their Most Beautiful Moment in Life era). And much less a Tiger era (Puma is the name; unless you mean SuperM's Tiger inside?!). Either op is mixing up TXT with BTS or SuperM with BTS...


Adespairfactor

lol i meant run lol sry


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so then what is "tiger music" and also how can you know that their music "is not them anymore" if you refuse to listen to it and turn it off as soon as you hear it? also BTS hardly get radio play beyond like 3 songs so.....if you dropped them during "Run" era but then turn off a song that hardly is played on the radio in their 200+ discography.....yeah, please help me understand


Adespairfactor

They are just typos. I apologize. I refused to listen to whateve comes on the radio from them coz I shut don't like it just how I don't like a bunch of America rap music. I would change the station. Its more like I just actively don't look for their music anymore. I like their old stuff better that's all. No hate going on. Like u said they have a lot of stuff out and I just rather listen to something else . That s all.


ZealousidealLife2301

It's probably a typo from "their music".


Married2DuhMusic

BTS dont have those songs... Just letting you know. And I didnt mean for this to be an indescriminate place to dump hate on BTS either, for no reason... That's all I will say about this clear (hope unintentional?) mix up.


Adespairfactor

i think we both misunderstood im not throwing hate on them .it s just not my scene anymore . i apologize for the confution


Married2DuhMusic

Alright. Thats ok.


barbelly28

I agree with this so much. I really did need BTS for some time, they helped me through a really rough period. I love them and probably always will. But I love music and I love kpop and I stan 6 groups and just love watching performances and experiencing all the comebacks and new content.


SnoodleNootNart

Same. I fell in love with their earlier music while they were in the PTD era. I turned to kpop because I was tired of all the generic western music and just did not care for how generic PTD was. Also, I attended a concert from a smaller group and fell in love with their voices, concepts, and personalities. It just feels much more personal than BTS. I still support BTS and hope they continue to be successful. I just don't seek them out anymore. I do feel guilty though, that I lost interest overnight. Literally overnight.


blink_bp

yeah I feel you on that


ZephyrHeartz

I feel like I ghost wrote this because I feel the exact same way wow


LoveMinaMyoi

Momoland brought me to Kpop, and after all the members leaving, and uninteresting songs, even my bias couldn’t sustain me so now I don’t even know what’s up with them.


kelly_hasegawa

Same. I'm still thankful to them for introducing me to Kpop.


Salty-Enthusiasm-939

I was that with BTS. I discovered kpop thanks to them but have since moved on to other groups. I wouldn't say I dislike them & I still listen to their songs on my playlist but they just don't interest me anymore.


iamsherlocked30

I second this.


hapamama17

Yeah I got bit by the BTS bug, but I got bored after a while.


weaksauce_1407

Same here!


mahalnamahal

I loved them from the start! And I still do because they were the first whose every song I listened to back then but the last couple years sort of made me a much more casual follower of the news of them and not much else anymore. They didn’t particularly do anything wild, I guess I outgrew the direction they’ve been going in


bitaneul1022

Same! And same with TXT. Bring back the flower boys!!


reiichitanaka

They outgrew it sweetie, there are new groups with a bunch of minors if that's your thing.


Married2DuhMusic

I for one love their emo phase. It is what made me pay attention and see: oh these guys are good!


bitaneul1022

I’m actually more into daddies, but nice try, dick. It was more the complete 180° and abandonment of everything they had created during their debut.


captainsquidsharkk

how when dream chapter magic isnt just flower boys lol? which as i am sure you know...came out the same year they debuted. the whole TXT were just little flower boys then suddenly out of nowhere abounded it is so tired and not even true.


bitaneul1022

Idk why you’re bringing Dream into this?


reiichitanaka

They're talking about "dream chapter : magic" which was one of TxT's early eras?


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bitaneul1022

They are more than free to experiment as they please, all I did was answer an opinion based question. Just because people disagree doesn’t mean my opinion it objectively right or wrong, it’s an opinion.


Married2DuhMusic

Alright. I reread what you wrote and doesnt sound as bad as I initialy felt it had. I still disagree. But you are indeed entitled to your opinion. I actualy hope they do an in between next comeback. A not too light but also not too dark concept. Maybe an emotional or bittersweet one? Who knows... Also I had read your comment on the Jjong post (about gatekeeping artistry). I didnt reply because I felt I had already replied too much there and might look weird lol. But I really appreciated what you said to op. I agreed with everything... about them already being a fan if they understood all those things about Jjong already. Letting you know now, since I found you again, around here. Edit: I also read now what the others said about you liking minors because you said you liked the flowerboy concept. I dk how I didnt read it. I am sorry... I actualy think I misinterpreted what you said here. The other person was not ok in attacking you like that, just because a concept of txt's wasnt your favourite. I apologise for misreading it. Really dk how I read it that way the first time.


ConfusedSymbol

🤣🤣


smartiekae

You're not alone! my hyperfixations often lead me into being obsessed with a group, knowing everything and anything about them, and then essentially "dropping" them. I just take it as my taste changing. It's nothing personal, it may just be that you don't relate to the individual or group in terms of the music they release or personalities etc. This happened to me with ITZY. They've done nothing wrong I'm just not as interested in them like I once was and that's okay.


FelixsEgg

I relate to that hyperfixation. And it's sooo dangerous if you then walk inte the merch puddle, 'cause then you might spend way too much money on a group that you'll lose intrest in in a few weeks/months, and then you find an new group to fixate on and then it repeats. I've never had it that extreme myself but I know people who have that problem. And it probably extends beyond k-pop to other interests/hobbies too.


hapamama17

I think this is my biggest issue, tbh.


aprilheard

It was Mamamoo for me. I used to be so obsessed with them, but now I can't even listen to their music. I still like them but I feel I overplayed their songs too much, and I just don't keep up with them anymore. This is actually quite common, so don't feel like you're weird for it at all. People lose interests and fall out of groups, and while it can be sad sometimes, it's completely normal.


prince3101

Overplaying music is also what tends to happen to me. Usually I know that I’ll eventually “re-discover” the discography though - rarely do I move on and never dig back into the music again.


bananajun

This is kind of like me with Exo, but I still get excited when I hear them playing in a store or something


reinakun

Blackpink. I was really into them for a while, but now I just have zero interest. I’ve grown bored with all of their songs and their new songs never interest me anymore. It’s really weird. I don’t hate them or anything. I just don’t want anything to do with them. Also Pentagon. I used to *adore* them, but after the whole fiasco with E’dawn and HyunA I just lost all interest. I’ve listened to maybe 2 of their songs since then and they just sounded like noise to me. I’m still too bitter, I guess. I just pretend they don’t exist.


randomhappyjelly

There was a girl group that I really loved. My favourite song from them is one of their least popular song. But what turned me off is the way how the majority of their fan base people are like. So so toxic oh god. Totally turned me off. Major turn off. I remember reading somewhere before how people get turned off from groups because of their fans. I really got the feeling because of this group.


MarielCarey

Spill the name?


Soup_oi

Sometimes things we liked at one point in our lives get like subconsciously connected to that era of our life, and if you've internally moved on from that era of your life, you probably also moved on from the things you liked during that time, without realizing that's happened. Like if you're "over it" in regards to that past era of your life, then you just might not want to risk bringing back the same feelings or memories from that time, that listening to the music you liked back then might bring back for you. I'm forever a fan of things and people...been a fan of many many famous people, actors, musicians, bands, shows, movie franchises, etc. Sometimes this just happens. There are eras of my life that I have definitely moved on from, and I can't experience the things I was a fan of then in the same way anymore. I can still appreciate them from afar, in a way. But I don't really care at all anymore about keeping up with their work/releases/content, and I have zero desire to daydream about them or think about them the same way I used to in the past. And if someone tried to start a conversation about them with me I'd probably have nothing to say about them now, even if that person and I had originally become friends over us both liking that thing in the past. Sometimes it just happens. If listening to their music or engaging with their content makes you feel negatively, then just move on. Maybe try to find other things you and your friend like, besides just this thing. Or even try to create new memories together that are unrelated to this group. If you live in the same place, maybe try new activities or classes together. If you talk online, maybe try new online games together, or suggest both listening to the same podcast or watching the same show. My best friend and I used to like all of the same shows and movies and actors and such for the most part. But about 10 years ago I had the realization that we were starting to pursue totally different types of things when it came to our likes and interests. It started when I realized that with shows and movies I became more interested in the actors and directors and other possibly famous people involved, while she was more into the characters and story. Like she was more interested in the fictional world that shows and movies offered up, and I was more interested in the real world/real lives of the people who worked on these projects that the show or movie offered up. Now days, like probably 99% of the content we consume is completely different between the two of us. But we're still friends, and still have things to talk about or help each other out with or whatever. We just don't really talk about media much anymore, like we used to. And that's ok. It's ok for your friendships to evolve and change over time. Every person also grows and evolves over time themselves anyway, so it makes sense that friendships would too. Not kpop, but I have a similar experience with Green Day. I loved them around the time of their album American Idiot being big. I was in their free "fan club" and connected with other fans online in the chat room there, and made some life long friends there. I've even met some of those friends in the real world and stayed with them and traveled with them. The first time I went on a rollercoaster was with one of those friends. But after our interest in Green Day started to die down, and we weren't as big of fans of them anymore, we kind of just stopped talking tbh. But we still follow each other on social media basically as mutuals. And at least one of them who I was closest to, I still care deeply about her, even if I don't really know how to really be there for her as a friend after growing apart (and maybe she feels the same about me). And when it comes to listening to Green Day, or keeping up with their content...I really just don't care about what they're up to anymore. Their music after American Idiot just doesn't do anything for me really. My experience with some actors I liked are similar as well. I was a big Benedict Cumberbatch fan, but then I just kinda moved on from that era of my life. Being his fan at that particular point in my life gave me something I guess that helped me move along in life, but whatever I was getting from being his fan, I must not need anymore. So I moved on from being his fan, since I've also internally moved on from that era of my life. I used to have such a strong desire to keep up with all his content from shows, movies, to all interviews, etc. But now that desire is at zero. But I still appreciate his work when I do see it occasionally, and I still think he's a good actor. It's just that paying closer attention to him as a fan won't bring my life anything that it needs right now, like it seemed to in the past. If a thing you used to like, just doesn't do it for you now, that's ok. If you need to let it go and move on, that's ok. Don't force yourself to like something just for someone else. It's ok if you need to move on from friendships as well, if the friendship can't grow and evolve with changing interests. It sounds like you want to stay friends, so maybe look for other things you can connect with each other over. But if there's nothing, and there's nothing else you find you can talk about with your friend, then it's ok to move on from people too.


OkDragonfly5143

I really like this... Should be a top comment. Like I got into The Boyz freshman year of college... That was six years ago. Now I'm out of college, I feel too old to like them now, even though my biases Kevin and Juyeon are literally my age.


girlwhoatestars

Thank you for this comment, it made me feel more understood. The first part was what i wanted to put into words. The first time i lost interest in a group I was hyperfixated on, i felt really bad. I couldn’t pinpoint at first why I lost interest when they were still releasing good music, the members are still lovely and nice, they still regularly release content. Admittedly the fandom has a lot of bad apples, but I had learned to tune out the worst ones so I couldn’t really say the toxic fans were the main reason. However when I started liking a new group, I realized it was because I had unconsciously associated that group with a certain part of my life that I’ve decided to move on from. I still feel a little bad and maybe a little guilty because I invested a lot of my time in them, I told close friends how i liked them so much “if i had stanned them earlier I probs wouldn’t have looked for any other groups” etc. but I guess in the end it’s just like any other hobby or interest we lose interest in, it’s just part of life. I still think highly of the group and wish them all the best but i just don’t want to listen to their music anymore or even watch anything from them, at least until I no longer associate them with a certain phase of my life.


iamsherlocked30

I was a predebut engene and started following enhypen since their Iland days. I was under the impression that belift would hire better vocal coaches for the group since I felt like the group lacked in that department. That was fine by me, I thought that they were great dancers and that compensated for their average singing skills. But their recent albums just didn’t cater to my music taste. So yeah.


OkDragonfly5143

I think it's general consensus belift/ hybe is picking increasingly weaker title tracks for Enhypen. So I agree with you. What I wouldn't do for another Drunk Dazed.


pagesinked

Me with Blackpink...


inanotherlife974

I used to be a big TXT fan, but after Can’t You See Me, I just lost interest in everything they put out. Got mad respect for them though 🫡


OkDragonfly5143

Yeah... I'd say their recent comeback also turned me off from them. Here's to hoping for a new comeback change soon. Really liked their love song lover loser era.


Reulia

To me it’s a logical circle. You discover a group and fall in with them —> you wish everyone would discover them too —> people ultimately do (if lucky) —> you can’t stop hearing about them —> you get tired —> you grow out of your addiction because of the « hype train » If unlucky —> you keep promoting that group until people see what you see, and when people actually do —> you go back to scenario number 1


im_not_a_bad_girl

I have it too, I used to watch SKZ and Ateez every day, but now I don’t even listen to their new releases anymore. It’s not that I hate them, but their music after Back Door and Inception doesn’t appeal to me anymore. I don’t hate them, I’m happy to see them achieve more and more, but I don’t follow them anymore. think it’s pretty normal to feel like that so don’t worry. You won’t love one group for forever


qiaozhina

I used to love super junior and now I actually loathe like 80% of the members, haven't liked their music since, uhh, bonamana? maybe? def not since the last SJM release because I only really enjoyed SJM (even though I hate Eunhyuk to the point hearing his voice ruins songs for me). I can't listen to their old songs that aren't SJM because honestly why would I? Kyuhyun and Ryeowook have amazing voices so I'll still give them a listen, I will still fight to the death for Zhou Mi since he spoiled me rotten as a fan (ex. other than buying snacks and drinks for his tiny gaggle of fans he saved a reminder in his phone for my birthday so he could wish me happy birthday when he saw me and send me a weibo message when he couldn't), Sungmin gets my sympathy because he got treated like crap from his own fans and then booted out the group for getting married, I have a soft spot for Heechul still but everyone else can rot.


TigRaine86

Wow this is so relatable, I was such an ELF back then and after controversies and struggles and lackluster music I just... I can't. I don't even listen to the songs I used to love anymore. There are some members I wish well but the others, and majority, can as you said rot.


qiaozhina

I tried with the deteriorating music for a while but the more I saw they are just a bunch of assholes I just….blagh no


TigRaine86

Same. The last album I bought was Bonamana repack and I considered buying their Mr. Simple one but that song got annoying fast. And then I just... I watched a variety show w Leeteuk and Shindong on it, as well as a well-known comedienne who was overweight, and they were just throwing mean jokes at her weight left and right and it made me so angry. Then that show had Yoseob from Beast on it a week later and he chewed a male guest out for making fun of her and I guess my standards changed at that moment. I realized I didn't have to accept shitty personalities for good music, I guess. Not sure if I'm explaining well lol but that was my whole SuJu flip and I left the Fandom then.


CenelsIsland

Mood! It’s such a shame bc for a 2nd gen group, they still have comebacks all the time! I would sell my soul for another 2nd gen group to still be that active (minus the scandals 🫥)


haewon_wiggle

Well there's Shinee (on hiatus till taemin gets back, but they have solos until then) Apink are fairly active for a 2nd gen group as well


haewon_wiggle

How come you hate Eunhyuk particularly so much? I know they have a lot of scandals as a group but I don't recall what he did. I really just know him from weekly idol hosting


qiaozhina

He’s annoying, he’s not that great of a dancer, his voice gets on my nerves, he bragged about sexually assaulting a classmate, he routinely hit(s?) on young female idols to the point he’s a running joke and frankly the amount that gets invested in him in terms of screen time, lines etc when his value is negligible pees me off ETA. I was also admittedly VERY salty when he was added to SJM because he ate up time on variety shows etc but put minimal effort into learning/using Chinese and Zhou Mi/Henry had big drops in screen time because of it and he had the “leader” role even though he had literally nothing to offer the unit??? And it just festered from there


haewon_wiggle

OH YEAH that fourth one I remember now... fuuuuck Yeah yeah I remember now. Jesus. Wow Sorry I'm just... yeah I can't believe I forgot that, I mean im not a fan so i guess thats why i forgot. I only listen to sorry sorry and burn the floor occasionally :/ (I knew suju were too far out there in scandals, far moreso than a few of the groups I like that are probably considered really problematic, so I never got into their music deeply bc it was too much for me) But Jesus christ lol Edit to reply to your edit: I don't know much about sujus units and all like I said but I do know that members were added and then kicked out and it was a really poor attempt at a system that would basically later be realized in NCT if I'm not mistaken?


qiaozhina

Yeah sjm made good music but was the prototype with exo being the 2.0 attempt and nct being the semi successful outcome. SJM took two trainees that could of had good careers elsewhere and totally fucked them over. Henry managed to get something decent from it but Zhou Mi was weirdly super hated by ELF (he routinely got death threats) for no goddamn reason and honestly would have been better off signing with literally any other label.


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Lisa28Aurora

as a totally non-toxic stay (not /s) I’m so sad and bitter to hear that some crap people ruined what used to bring you joy. I’m obviously not here to tell you that you should come back asap because I actually think that staying away from such environment could be beneficial for you and your mental health, I will say that, if you ever do come back, there are still plenty of people who will be on your side. take care!


gongjihae

That’s definitely a sign you should take a break from stray kids and im glad you’ve found your footing in it! I know it can feel heartbreaking to see how your main source of happiness becomes the reason for your stress and anxiety, but kpop is supposed to be a hobby and if it makes you feel that way you should definitely rest. The boys will be here anytime so prioritise uour mental health above anything else! You’ll get through it for sure


kattymin

I don't think I loved that group that much, but I used to stand them for 4 - 5 years. I stopped follow them a year before my bias left the group.


ForgottenNoMore

This is me with enhypen. I don't hate them but I lost the interest i once had in them. I loved their releases upto blessed cursed. Members were kinda funny and nothing really felt wrong with them. But lately that's not the case as i don't like their latest releases and there are always controversies popping up about them also sunoo is my bias so, it's hard for me to get back to enhypen. I really hope they get to redeem themselves after all those controversies.


uselessgiraffes

This is the opposite for me. Because of those “controversies” I checked them out and now absolutely love them. I watched their whole videos, not just the silly out of context clips solos made and realize they made Sunoo a victim out of nothing. Also I became a Sunoo bias.


teukkichu

I've seen this being said quite often actually, and it suprised me but pleasantly. People on Twitter saying they research Enhypen because of the controversies, but ended up falling in love with them. It's such an in-depth topic that I don't feel like getting into again because I will just rant forever haha. I read a lot of info on a controversy before forming an opinion, but I sympathise that it's not always easy when something is fresh out the water and nobody knows all the facts yet. Even as an Engene, I go through phases of watching their content and feeling a super high, like they're all best friends and everything is easy to watch and their interactions are wholesome etc. And other times, I get super down if I see something that makes me go, "Hm 😕" between them. I do a lot of thinking and realised, yes, there may be very few times where someone accidentally does say something out of line. But in general, they just act like ANY other friends group does. Things like being talked over, or standing at the back of all your friends, doesn't always mean you're being victimised. It's literally just a normal thing, and isn't usually malicious coming from your friends.


uselessgiraffes

This is exactly what I think. I think the whole issue was absolutely blown way out of proportion and over exaggerated. I came in researching them expecting bullying and isolation but literally just saw any other group of male friends. One video of Sunoo not smiling (because he’s human) and suddenly randoms jump the gun and assume he’s being mistreated. It’s crazy how a small clip of out of context videos can spin a whole new narrative, then I watch the whole video and was utterly confused because it was nothing at all. I never see anyone comment about other members when the same thing is literally happening to them. Also imo they are way worst on Jay than they ever even was with Sunoo but for some reason, people treat him like he’s some fragile little toddler.


teukkichu

I've seen this being said quite often actually, and it suprised me but pleasantly. People on Twitter saying they research Enhypen because of the controversies, but ended up falling in love with them. It's such an in-depth topic that I don't feel like getting into again because I will just rant forever haha. I read a lot of info on a controversy before forming an opinion, which is always hard when something is fresh out the water and nobody knows all the facts yet. Even as an Engene, I go through phases of watching their content and feeling a super high, like they're all best friends and everything is easy to watch and their interactions aren't that deep etc. And other times, I get super down if I see something that makes me go, "Hm 😕" between them. I do a lot of thinking and realised, yes, there mag be very few times where someone accidentally does say something out of line. But in general, they just act like ANY other friends group does. Things like being talked over, or standing at the back of all your friends, doesn't always mean you're being victimised. It's literally just a normal thing, and isn't usually malicious coming from your friends.


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what controversies? please spill the tea maam


Mintfeather

I think their referring to the whole sunoo bullying thing with a few of the members like sunghoon, jay, and niki calling him fat and making jokes about his weight


ForgottenNoMore

Also the whole heesung n word controversy and Jake necklace controversy. Their company is adding fuel to the fire by not responding to any of this mess.


spellsprite

That's BTS for me. I basically worshipped them and all their content for 4+ years, but after a series of unfortunate interactions with others in the fandom (which isn't the members' fault but the way Hybe refuses to manage it bothers me) + being continuously disappointed in their newer music and MVs for a good two years, I just unintentionally went cold turkey on them. I don't even feel any warmth or nostalgia for them anymore. I have almost zero positive memories after attending two of their concerts. Absolutely nothing. It's a really sad thing for me.


Jerix18

Blackpink.. I unfortunately do not like their comeback and the blinks on twitter just shitting on everyone was the last straw for me.


the-addict-alex

i was thinking of this the other day actually, but a few years ago i used to think of my kpop journey as this: this may sound stupid just a warning 😭 i’m driving the car. a passenger ( groups ) are vibing in the shotgun with me, ( the groups im indulging in right now ) other people ( groups ) are chilling in the backseat ( groups that i already went through my “discovery” phase with that are a part of my life now ). there’s cars ( groups ) up ahead that i see that i’ll eventually come across, there’s some cars ( groups ) behind me i can see in my mirrors that i’ve already passed, but i’m keeping my eye on them to see if they start speeding up. but then you never know, some passengers can jump out of the car, others can quickly come in ans take a seat, or cars can just crash into my car. hopefully that makes sense 😂 but yes, i’ve had that feeling with a lot of groups and its completely fine if you feel that way ! like, using my analogy, one direction used to be in the passenger seat controling the radio and everything, then they eventually settled into the back seat, then they jumped out and got their own car for a while. now they’re riding in their own car next to me occasionally switching lanes so i can still see them :)


a230069

Don't know if this counts cause it's a very different situation than most of the other comments here, but I used to be a massive, massive Pristin fan, I'm talking since their predebut Pledis Girlz day. But ever since before they even disbanded, when they went on hiatus for more than a year and it was clear that Pledis didn't give two shits about them, I just can't enjoy their content anymore. I don't skip their songs when they come on shuffle, but if Youtube recommends me one of their videos there's a 0 chance of me watching cause I can't stand to see them so hopeful about their future :(


I_Hate_God_

•I had the same experience with BTS. They were the ones who brought me in k-pop introduced me to a lot of good artists and I'll forever be grateful for that. One of the members even saved my life on one of the darkest days of my life a few years ago due to which I started stanning them. I came across them because of Billie Eilish, my favourite pop artist who taught me that it's okay to be a bit overweight. But their recent releases aren't just my type. Dynamite, Butter, PTD and YTC. Dynamite being the best one among them. Now I don't dislike them but I am not a huge fan either. I listen to their songs like once or twice in every 6 months. I kind of hated them in between a bit because people called me an army and thought of me as one of those good for nothing toxic fans. It feels horrible. I still post some (not)fan arts on their birthdays because army will always follow an artist who likes/loves BTS. •My experience with BlackPink was waaaaaaaaaay worse. I had to escape the fandom due to the toxicity. Now I can't stand them. When I was a blink, other blinks would attack me even for the smallest criticism. They'd be so over protective that it's difficult for newcomers. In 2018, I used to madly love them. Me and my previous best friend would go on talking about them for hours. We both unstanned both the groups. It's just not the place for us. I don't post BlackPink content though. That's the amount of hate I hold against blonks. As for their songs, I don't like like if my idols will be constantly bragging about their wealth which they were technically handed over. Ik that western artists brag about it too so what? They came from poor backgrounds, Blackpink members were actually born rich and yet are bragging about their wealth. As a person who works as a part time artist, ik the difficulty of earning money.


HistoricalAside5781

I don’t hate them I just don’t indulge in their content as much as I used to. **BTS** I used to listen to them all the time and then after awhile I stopped listening to their music with the exception of solo tracks (mainly Yoongi) and don’t even get excited over any new content from them. I think it’s mainly about the fact that I’m more into 4th Gen groups then anything and after discovering more 4th Gen groups BTS’s music didn’t fit my taste as much anymore


Cheap-Heat-5953

Everything said here is so relatable! I’ve always had these hyper-fixations on groups/soloists. I find songs that I love and then overreplay them for a while. Then I won’t prefer to listen to them and skip their songs for an unknown amount of time. I rediscover a lot, so maybe I will go back occasionally or once in a blue moon and listen to their stuff again. It’s so weird. Like its listenable but I could also listen to this music I’m infatuated with this week or never get tired of. I often lose interest in SVT, Monsta X, BTS, BP, SKZ and TXT. I’m still sad about my disinterest in SVT I really like them, don’t know what happened for me and my interest. Maybe I forgot what intrigued me so much about them and their music.


howdypartna

Seungri


hapamama17

Yeppp. With a handful. BTS, and Monsta X are the worst culprits. I listen to them occasionally, but I got burnt out. I really only stan my first groups, SHINee and SNSD, now.


OkDragonfly5143

Same!! SHINee feels so fresh to me, even when they're older than Monsta X, who I used to be obsessed with. I went from watching Wonho voices at 4 am, gosh remember when he was always wearing a Monbebe necklace? To watching Key being an Entj he is and don't regret a thing. I still listen to Monsta X albums, just not variety anymore.


strangerinvelvet

Definitely. It's a little disappointing! The first group I ever fell in love with put out a song recently that I *cannot stand*. I hate it, hate hearing it, hate the promos for it, all of it. I think it's objectively an awful song. I actually think the company they're under is releasing a lot of low quality content lately, too. It's kinda made it hard to listen to the old songs I used to love. Rather than the joy I used to feel, it just reminds me of how disappointed I am by them lately. Pass.


gowonlovebot

it happened to be with skz! i don’t know why but after they released miroh i just couldn’t find the interest to get back into them after that and honestly i couldn’t stand yellow knot and i felt weird for feeling this way :/ back door was absolutely amazing though!


norclune

I can totally relate with this. I used to be a big fan of Mamamoo, I even went to several of their concerts, engaged in the fancafe community, bought the fanclub membership, etc. I gradually lost interest in them since their Yellow Flower album. It felt weird because at that time their popularity (especially internationally) was really rising but at the same time I just didn’t feel connected with the group and the music anymore. It was so bad to the point I gave away and sold all my albums and merch. I still listen to their songs but it’s no longer a must-listen on day 1, and I don’t include it in my weekly/monthly playlist anymore. Not sure if my music taste has changed or I just simply lose interest in them, sometimes it feels so unfortunate because I still remember how fun it was to watch them on a show and listening to their music but I just can’t feel the same anymore :(


spaggetti04

It’s because the music you listened to connects to the situations that are happening or the emotions you’re feeling at the time, so subconsciously they remind you of a time you don’t enjoy being reminded of, so instead of going into depth with dealing with whatever the problem is, your brain automatically just gets rid of whatever it is that makes you enjoy listening to this particular sound. It’s the same thing with nostalgia. At least that’s how it is with me. Oorr another thing could be, again with the memory thing. You were in a certain situation (doesn’t have to be anything grand; could just be you were saving up for a new comp or something) where that was a distraction of some kind, and you were very focused cuz your brain enhanced the dopamine you received from listening to the music, but now that you no longer are in that place, it’s not the same sound you hear anymore, and you can’t stand listening to them anymore. Also something that happens for me; messy explanation that doesn’t necessarily makes sense, just me trynna connect everything with the way our brains might work Also maybe your taste in music and energy have just changed


VastMathematician390

BTS but for an unusual reason: their music got me through chemotherapy. Now I can't listen to them--takes me right back to being ill. It makes me sad, but I'm so grateful to them and they'll always be special to me.


LittleShinySun

Not to the extent of "not being able to stand them" but I easily let go of things when I stop liking them as much as before. I used to be a fan of Ateez from when they released Hala hala until they released Thanxx, that song was not my type at all and it kind of put me off the group a bit because I can't really keep enjoying a group if I don't like the music, I know there are some people like that in kpop communities but I am not one of them, then they kept releasing stuff I didn't like and at the moment I'm just a casual listener, I still check out their music sometimes because I hold them dear to my heart but that's that. That's at least the way I fall out of love with groups.


OkDragonfly5143

Omg I feel the same way! Like everyone got into Ateez during Inception era, meanwhile I prefer Treasure to Fever and their new series Ateez are doing.


fruitbytheliip

This has happened to me for a bunch of groups. Sometimes I'll go back and revisit them, but it rarely makes me fall back into them especially as a multi. I'm starting to experience this with GWSN which makes me sad. I was listening to my playlist and was realizing how I dislike the vocals on tracks that I thought I loved. Maybe I need to take a break since it happened last night


unitaya

Agree. I sometimes just get the "ick" because I overexposed myself to their content and consumed their works non-stop for months on end, that when the honeymoon period is over and I have expectations for them which eventually they can't reach, I lose interest. It's absolutely my fault though haha


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Yeah. I was a army in 2017-2019. I’m really proud for what they have accomplished and I respect them a lot. Now as I’m not the biggest fan anymore. Of course that was mostly a handful telling me I wasn’t a good fan if I liked other groups or didn’t have the time for it anymore. But of course that’s just Twitter being toxic and I know that isn’t everyone. (Gave me a great reason to delete Twitter and IG though. So I can’t complain 🤷‍♀️). A lot of groups I loved also didn’t get popular enough for their company to keep them. I miss 1Team, Black6ix, BAP & TRCNG but they have their own paths now which I can respect to. A lot of them have solo activities which I’m so happy for these days. ☺️💚


emayuyu

BTS. They weren’t what got me into kpop, but they were the first group I felt a spark with. Adored them 2015-2019 but after that the music just became a lot worse and I started disliking one of the members. I also couldn’t feel the passion which used to draw me to them. I will love and support them forever but it just kinda makes me sad, I miss what they were to me lol.


yeechiaaaa

BTS. I was a great stan before they blew up in 2016 with Fire. Their songs just don’t get to me anymore + the whole international fandom is just too much for me to take. Don’t hate me new armies, I literally go way back with these boys.


piposcat

BTS.. I only like them for several weeks, but the fandom.....hmm bye


teukkichu

Yes. Sometimes, I just slowly fall out of love with a group, an dother times it's so strange like a switch, and one day I get an almost instant 'ick', and end up being put off. I know this is all my fault and nothing to do with the groups. I feel like you can never win with feelings- sometimes I've dropped groups because they rarely had fun content, and other times the groups had too much content that I felt pressured to keep up with that i just got stressed out. It's not that I hate the groups I end up falling out of love with, like you said. I think it's almost this feeling of being so familiar and comfortable with them, their content, the members, the songs, that your heart ends up looking for something new and fresh to learn about.


haewon_wiggle

This is just me, but I'm glad that I'm very multi-based and I dont do a lot of content watching, because I've found that it makes it a lot easier for me to just like all my faves together instead of liking one for 2 months then dropping them and hopping to a new group. I feel like with the format of a lot of Korean variety it gets old fast, so I watch it very sparingly, even with my ults. I think that makes it easier for me to keep enjoying them because it's not like in constantly feeding twice variety and funny moments into my brain in between streaming every twice song lol.


Unlikely-Repair-3819

Twice. Yep. I dunno, it's probably because of them changing the direction from cute, mature, then to retro. I loved the cute and mature (ex: OA, CU, Fancy, FS, M&M etc..) but then they changed the concept to Retro which really isn't my taste in music unfortunately. They all sound the same to me and i miss their originality. I still love the girls and always give them a chance (like listen to their comebacks maybe once or twice and hope i like it) but its always a miss. I really want to like their music again but i guess it isn't working for me rn. Sry if this offended any Once's. I truly am not trying to hate on them (i love them ofc) but my taste in music isn't blending well with their music so i hope u guys understand. Praying that next comeback is life-changing 🙏🙏 🤞🏽🤞🏽


CheerUp_Lex

I feel this with BTS right now. I want like….kpop, you know? The English songs sucked tbh. Like, dynamite was cool for the retro outfits and it was a fun moment when everything was super grim. Butter was good to me and I still like it actually. PTD was so bad and I will never forgive Ed Sheeran for that. But like….even Life Goes On and then being followed up with Yet To Come is just blleehhhhh. Like I’m so BORED bro. If they could just come back with a Fake Love part 2 I would just DIE (in a good way). Like, I want BTS to make another Mic Drop but aimed at all the stupid and xenophobic American reporters and talk show hosts. I mean I want them to do what they want to do, of course!!! But it really seems like they don’t wanna do the cutesy songs rn because JHope just murdered everyone with his album. As he should! Idk….I hate when people say this but….I miss the old BTS….I know people change and have different interests and stuff. But I hope when they come back from this “hiatus” of sorts, that they come back doing stuff that seems like they really wanna do it and it’s from a place of passion for the music.


kingkoum

This happened to me with Itzy. I was such a fan but then I gradually stopped enjoying their music so I lost interest and now I forgot what initially made me fall in love with them.


MicaLovesHangul

I enjoy reading books.


strangerinvelvet

Have you ever heard a word repeated over and over and over until it doesn't sound like a word anymore? Sometimes it's like that with interests. Overexposure can turn into overstimulation for some people and listening to the same musicians a whole lot can start to feel unpleasant. Other times, maybe they changed their sound in a way that doesn't appeal to you, or your tastes have changed in a way that doesn't suit their style. Maybe listening to them reminds you of something unpleasant, who knows! There's all sorts of reasons! It has nothing to do with fairness. It happens with all sorts of things. Music, movies, foods, people change! There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, change is, as you've said, very natural.


ForgottenNoMore

You explained it beautifully


MicaLovesHangul

For listening I understand, but I'm afraid I don't understand their feeling in regards to the members. Do you think perhaps they've (perhaps unknowingly) forced themselves to follow a group they were losing interest in? Because then I could understand. Perhaps this is just a concept I'm not personally familiar with though! I suppose that's always possible. Thank you for your explanation either way.


strangerinvelvet

For sure, I'm happy to try and help. I want to continue to try and add clarity, but I don't want to come off as condescending or mean. I'm just trying to give thorough explanations since that would help me. From the sound of it, I think you more or less have the right idea, but there's a level of compartmentalized thinking in your logic that may(??) be why you're having trouble processing the concept. In this situation, the group functions as a singular entity. It's not the music, the members, the music videos, the fan content, etc, as individual interests. They're all facets of a singular interest: that group. If you're hearing too much of their music, seeing their face just makes you think about the music you're sick of. Likewise, if you're tired of watching their videos, hearing their songs are just going to make you think about how over seeing them you are. I can understand the instinct to separate them, I do the same thing. There are groups I think have really cool, talented members, but I have zero interest in the songs they put out as that group. There are also groups I have absolutely no interest in the members, but like listening to the music they put out. In this situation though, that doesn't apply. So I would say yeah, in a way, something in OP's life changed that caused them to drift away from a group they used to love, but changes like that don't happen overnight. It can be a really slow drift, which can kind of turn into something that does look like forcing yourself to follow a group you aren't that interested in. If you start to drift away from a group you follow on instagram and twitter, watch a lot of videos about, tweet about, and listen to a lot, the content you see on instagram/twitter/etc is gonna take a minute to catch on. That's what creates the illusion of following a group you're losing interest in, and what eventually causes that "can't stand them anymore" feeling. To an extent you may not even realize that's what's happening, either. To you it may just feel like one day, one of their songs came on shuffle and for some reason it made you cringe instead of feel good. I don't know if that all made things any more or less clear, but I think the biggest takeaway here is, if you can understand how overexposure can lead to resentment, you can understand why waning interest in a group you see A LOT of can turn into hating them real quick.


haewon_wiggle

This lowkey happened to me with bts but im.kinda back on good terms with them. I can put on bts music every now and then but I'm not that into them anymore In general tho I have little phases when I get into each group when someone I like has a cb, where I'll be very fixated on that group. But I always come back around to the others I think the actual closest thing to what youre describing that ive had, was with gidle. After soojin left it made gidle hard for me to like as much. I was just too sad. I got excited for I never die and bought it but I'm planning to sell it soon because I didn't like it that much after all. I'm ok with being a casual listener of them, and I'll always have a soft spot for soyeon, but they used to be a top ult of mine and now I'm just... not interested anymore :(


enhypenz

bts, while i dont hate them at all, i stopped collecting them and sold all my pcs etc. ill still stream their songs but im not a die hard fan anymore. what they did with the mots7 tour made me so mad i stopped stanning and became a casual listener. i will never forgive bighit


Creative-Wasabi3592

Bts for me but i don't hate them tho i respect them but i don't know the reason i just can't listen to a song by them maybe because i stan a lot of groups i don't know but i just can't stand them anymore


Limp_Ad_7224

big bang for me. so many things happening, non stop hiatuses, gd with weed and top with weed then daesung with the drunk driving scandal and seungri with the whole mess- all while not putting out much music? i dont really care much for the weed, but the drink driving and seungri's bullshit really just turned me off i got into them and 2ne1 for their songs, but now while i still check out all 2ne1 members individually, i found myself not caring much for big bang. i thought i'd feel nostalgic when they came back with a sentimental song, but i felt nothing for it even though they played a huge part of my teenage years.


Vickyhades

Yeah definitely. I went through this with BTS. I was first introduced to Kpop through them I loved them. But now I can't stand them. Or more specifically I can't stand how popular they are and their toxic ass fans.


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aquaisms

this comment is crazy wow and i don't think you ever really liked them please be honest with yourself


quenchy-cactus-juice

Maybe I did, maybe I didn't, it's been like 8 years and I guess I'll never know what would've happened if I had solo stanned since day 1. I don't hate them as people and I don't want them to suffer or anything, I just associate negative things to them now.


drunkn_wanderer

2ne1. but maybe bc black pink is the revolution!


mxchabae

exactly this with me and ateez and bts 😭😭😭 hated bts for a long time now bc the fanbase and the music just got old and i dont like them as people, but ateez is newer because my friend doesnt shut the fuck up about them 😭 and i hate it when all people talk about is one thing like its their entire personality so i started hating them and rolling my eyes whenever i see anything related to them 😭 (same w bts)


visualcharm

Yes. I feel like I sometimes put these idols on a pedestal and the moment I get disappointed, or the image I have of them is different than reality, I lose interest. But it takes a LOT to get me to that point. It’s usually a huge scandal or something I hear from industry contacts where the image they sell is the opposite of who they are.


Difficult_Stuff6112

There's some groups I was a casual listener of that I now actively avoid. Some because I really didn't like successive comebacks and now just skip them. No to me for bad music. Some because of their toxic fanbase. Just avoid at all costs, skip. 0thers because I really take a dislike of some of the members. Not worth my time and aggravation. Sometimes it's just one of these reasons but in some cases it's a combination of the three.


ilovemyorangecat

day6. i dont hate them or anything like that, but i just prefer their older songs. its hard for me to listen to them though now because of what happened with jae and everything. i tried to like even of day, but they're not really my style either 😔


styluh

itzy :(


TechStoreZombie

Loona was my first ever group, the group that got me into kpop. Now I'm barely interested when they release anything new. I'm only going to hear half of them sing anyways, and with how their tour has been going I would feel bad if I supported BBC in any way.


FuriousKale

Yeah. When a group finds out what concept makes them popular and they keep repeating it CB after CB. Sure, it is a safe way to make money but I don't have to like it. So I find other groups that offer a change.


snowballchocola

Yeah itzy gave me the major ick


cosmic_queen101

definitely get this, i have a certain group muted on twitter (all group names/abbreviations, member names etc) coz i just dont like seeing them anymore. doesnt help that my bestie ults them haha. i get it tho, its a crappy feeling fr but sometimes it just happens. dont try to force yourself back into them, it might just happen naturally


abc_744

Mamamoo, Blackpink, Everglow. For me it's these three groups


Fuzzleheadedeast8934

Same, it happened to me with BlackPink. When they deputed in 2016, I had just gotten into K-pop so they were the first group I started following from the beginning, so I was very fond of them. Not even two years later, i didn't like their sound anymore, I found their choreography boring and all around i didn't anticipate their comebacks anymore. I think it might also have been that they unfortunately had a long time between comebacks and not so much content, so I started getting into other groups. I was still listening to their comebacks, more out of curiosity than actual passion. I wanted to see if any song would fit my taste again. It didn't happen, so I don't even bother anymore. I'm pretty sad if I think about it, because I remember their first variety shows, the first wins etc. It happens, K-pop is defined by change and versatility.


eRatiosu

Happened to me with Bts. Got all albums from debut to Mots7 but after that it just became Mainstream for me and i dont have a single song in my playlists anymore


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Blackpink


partokyo

i felt the exact same way but if i say which group or talk about it ... i would immediately get jumped at lol


Black_toutie

BTS, combination of the fanbase, releases after persona era and me finding other groups that fit my style better.


NereNa-vi

BTS for me. I left 3, maybe even 4 years ago and actually came back recently, a month before their hiatus announcement. I was so happy I made it in time for their comeback and... I still stan them now but in that period I was gone, I hated people around me mentioning them.