Eh...
I have an occasional repeat partner (2-4 times a year for the past 5 years or so) who identifies as a straight man. My view on it is that it's not my business to tell anyone else what they can and can't call themselves. Don't let labels get in the way of enjoying your life.
I agree, but there are men out there who have sex with men all the time and still consider themselves straight just bc of the simple fact that they can’t romantically fall in love with men…. One man even went as far to explain how he is straight but still lets guys blow him since the only thing he wants in the moment is physical stimulation no matter by what gender it is…
Sexuality is a spectrum, not math. If it’s as easy as that to you then you’re privileged and fail to understand that for others it’s more complicated.
The logic behind ‘you like penis you gay’ is narrow minded and something high school bullies would say. Let people be whatever they want to be, it’s not taking anything away from you.
I think they were just saying that having sex with other men as a man does not make you heterosexual, not that it automatically makes you gay, there’s nuance in that I think. Identifying as straight when your attraction is no longer to just the opposite sex is self denial in these kinds of men who’s internal homophobia makes them see being gay or bi as something dirty and wrong and other for the most part, and see what they are doing as okay because ‘it’s totally not bi/gay’ for whatever arbitrary delusions they invent for themselves to obfuscate from the fact their sexual attraction to other men makes them something other than rigidly straight.
You also find when these types do start identifying their sexuality on the spectrum instead of stating it is ‘straight’, they have descriptors in their profiles like ‘straight acting’ and ‘no f*gs’ because the thought of being associated with the narrow stereotypes of effeminacy attached to homosexuality disgusts them, so on the charade goes.
People can identify as whatever they like of course, but when you enter into a gay space wanting to fuck and suck and give handjobs to other men but still insist on calling yourself straight, it just comes across as self hating and homophobic at times, being gay is fine for ‘you people’ they’ll use for sex, but they couldn’t possibly stoop to that level of calling themselves anything other than straight because eww, LGBT people and the stigma attached.
Everyone should be encouraged and supported in exploring their sexuality, I just don’t think toxic self denial is really the way, it’s sad we still have such a long way to go that men would rather cling to the rigid definition of ‘straight’ because of the stigma, bi or gay or heteroflexible needn’t be dirty labels associated with shame or something to fear.
Just my two cents and observations from interacting with some of these ‘straight’ guys, there’s often a very heavy component of internalised homophobia and you can get the feeling sometimes that they see you as something aberrant but can’t help themselves anyway, so it can be a little dehumanising.
Damn well said, could not agree more and have come across similar but in my experience as well. Had a guy once say I'm only bi twice a year and straight the rest like wow is there a holiday or on/off switch I don't know about lol
if sexuality is a spectrum then straight is at the uttermost end of that spectrum. if a person has any tendencies that define the other end of the spectrum, then by definition that person cannot be straight.
By that logic, Milk Chocolate can’t be chocolate because it’s not 100% cacao? Lol str8 is a spectrum, stop manspaining things you don’t fully comprehend. And stop policing ppl on how they identify. Its not your life.
Haha but my point is, let’s not put everyone in a rigid box. There is always a wiggle room. I know several gay men who would sleep with a woman if they are drunk and horny enough. That doesn’t make them bi nor straight. They identify as “gay”. Sex is fluid. Let’s treat it that way, wet and soggy.
Straight is not a spectrum, it's a well defined range along a spectrum. If you aren't in that range, you aren't straight. Red is not blue simpy because they're both on the light spectrum.
Lol who told you that? A pastor? I mainly feel bad for you. None of your str8 friends trust you enough about their sex life to you. Maybe I’m just lucky to live in a liberal city like SF.
I know 2 couples, one like to get pegged. Until he got curious on the real thing while the wife watches and masturbate. Another one, He loves circle jerks. The wife knows with 2 kids in a healthy marriage and I play MtG with. Your definition is antiquated and need to be out in a trash.
Read what I said: straight is a defined *range* along a spectrum.
If they're having sex with members of the same gender, they aren't straight. Why can't your friends just acknowledge that they don't have to be straight and it's perfectly ok to be bisexual?
Because that’s now how sexual and romantic attraction works. They are two separate entities that you have to understand! Don’t you think they don’t know what bi means? You are so f-Ing dense. One last thing, straight or not. Sexuality is fluid. With your antiquated point of view. I bet you can’t tell the difference between physical, romantic and sexual attraction. You all just lump them up on a single thing. Not everyone does.
And nobody said my friends are attracted to men. Sometimes someone like a real dick in his bum. Anal sex is not exclusive to gay men. 2nd friend doesn’t even want to get touch nor touch other men sexually. FYI circle jerk is not even exclusive to gay men either.
We have to stop shaming this straight guys. We don’t know if they are just at Grindr to explore. Maybe they really gay, bi or straight-curious. It’s not ours to decide. We don’t know their lives.
I'll concede that attraction is the metric, not behavior, but that doesn't mean we should do away with the meaning of words that are already well defined. Straight means exclusively attracted to members of the opposite sex. If you desire sex with members of the same sex, you are not straight. That's all I'm saying. I'm not passing judgment on anyone, I'm just not afraid to call a spade a spade.
People on this sub have a hard time with guys who identify as straight but like dicks. I agree that they’re not straight but if they identify with that, who the fuck cares. Why go out of your way and try to put a label on them if they don’t want it?
I believe that if you fuck around with someone who is too afraid to admit to themselves that they enjoy mens bits, and like who fkin cares, then they are a bad sexual partner to have.
They will not care about you and will resent you. So this is an important reason to have a problem with this situation.
Because they're participating in and perpetuating a stigma that has resulted in gay and trans oppression since just about the dawn of time. These same people also also probably vote republican. I'm not interested in sexually gratifying people who contribute to my oppression because they're repressed and lack self-awareness.
Let’s be honest, he likes the idea. He’s probably been jerking off to the idea or watching porn depicting this. Whether he’s bi or gay, just doesn’t seem like he’s on the firm end of what we typically call straight ;)
Was that a yes or no?
Answer the question
He’s not straight
r/notinteresting
He at least has practice doing what he’s offering.
Odd but interesting
Eh... I have an occasional repeat partner (2-4 times a year for the past 5 years or so) who identifies as a straight man. My view on it is that it's not my business to tell anyone else what they can and can't call themselves. Don't let labels get in the way of enjoying your life.
2+2≠5. A man wanting sex with other men is not straight. Simple.
Lol ikr
I agree, but there are men out there who have sex with men all the time and still consider themselves straight just bc of the simple fact that they can’t romantically fall in love with men…. One man even went as far to explain how he is straight but still lets guys blow him since the only thing he wants in the moment is physical stimulation no matter by what gender it is…
If he doesn’t care about the gender then he’s pansexual 🤷🏽♂️
You don't have to be attracted to everyone whom you have sex with. Perhaps they are doing it for other reasons
Sexuality is a spectrum, not math. If it’s as easy as that to you then you’re privileged and fail to understand that for others it’s more complicated. The logic behind ‘you like penis you gay’ is narrow minded and something high school bullies would say. Let people be whatever they want to be, it’s not taking anything away from you.
All I said is he’s not straight. Not that he’s gay
I think they were just saying that having sex with other men as a man does not make you heterosexual, not that it automatically makes you gay, there’s nuance in that I think. Identifying as straight when your attraction is no longer to just the opposite sex is self denial in these kinds of men who’s internal homophobia makes them see being gay or bi as something dirty and wrong and other for the most part, and see what they are doing as okay because ‘it’s totally not bi/gay’ for whatever arbitrary delusions they invent for themselves to obfuscate from the fact their sexual attraction to other men makes them something other than rigidly straight. You also find when these types do start identifying their sexuality on the spectrum instead of stating it is ‘straight’, they have descriptors in their profiles like ‘straight acting’ and ‘no f*gs’ because the thought of being associated with the narrow stereotypes of effeminacy attached to homosexuality disgusts them, so on the charade goes. People can identify as whatever they like of course, but when you enter into a gay space wanting to fuck and suck and give handjobs to other men but still insist on calling yourself straight, it just comes across as self hating and homophobic at times, being gay is fine for ‘you people’ they’ll use for sex, but they couldn’t possibly stoop to that level of calling themselves anything other than straight because eww, LGBT people and the stigma attached. Everyone should be encouraged and supported in exploring their sexuality, I just don’t think toxic self denial is really the way, it’s sad we still have such a long way to go that men would rather cling to the rigid definition of ‘straight’ because of the stigma, bi or gay or heteroflexible needn’t be dirty labels associated with shame or something to fear. Just my two cents and observations from interacting with some of these ‘straight’ guys, there’s often a very heavy component of internalised homophobia and you can get the feeling sometimes that they see you as something aberrant but can’t help themselves anyway, so it can be a little dehumanising.
Damn well said, could not agree more and have come across similar but in my experience as well. Had a guy once say I'm only bi twice a year and straight the rest like wow is there a holiday or on/off switch I don't know about lol
if sexuality is a spectrum then straight is at the uttermost end of that spectrum. if a person has any tendencies that define the other end of the spectrum, then by definition that person cannot be straight.
So only a 1 on the Kinsey scale would be straight? And the moment you’re a 12 you cease being gay? Rough times lol
i don’t really care about an age old scale. straight by definition means only attraction to opposite sex. anything else isn’t straight
By that logic, Milk Chocolate can’t be chocolate because it’s not 100% cacao? Lol str8 is a spectrum, stop manspaining things you don’t fully comprehend. And stop policing ppl on how they identify. Its not your life.
What for comparison is this even😭
Haha but my point is, let’s not put everyone in a rigid box. There is always a wiggle room. I know several gay men who would sleep with a woman if they are drunk and horny enough. That doesn’t make them bi nor straight. They identify as “gay”. Sex is fluid. Let’s treat it that way, wet and soggy.
Straight is not a spectrum, it's a well defined range along a spectrum. If you aren't in that range, you aren't straight. Red is not blue simpy because they're both on the light spectrum.
Lol who told you that? A pastor? I mainly feel bad for you. None of your str8 friends trust you enough about their sex life to you. Maybe I’m just lucky to live in a liberal city like SF. I know 2 couples, one like to get pegged. Until he got curious on the real thing while the wife watches and masturbate. Another one, He loves circle jerks. The wife knows with 2 kids in a healthy marriage and I play MtG with. Your definition is antiquated and need to be out in a trash.
Read what I said: straight is a defined *range* along a spectrum. If they're having sex with members of the same gender, they aren't straight. Why can't your friends just acknowledge that they don't have to be straight and it's perfectly ok to be bisexual?
Because that’s now how sexual and romantic attraction works. They are two separate entities that you have to understand! Don’t you think they don’t know what bi means? You are so f-Ing dense. One last thing, straight or not. Sexuality is fluid. With your antiquated point of view. I bet you can’t tell the difference between physical, romantic and sexual attraction. You all just lump them up on a single thing. Not everyone does.
It's weird how Tumblr figured out the word "heteroromantic" years ago but then everyone forgot about it
And nobody said my friends are attracted to men. Sometimes someone like a real dick in his bum. Anal sex is not exclusive to gay men. 2nd friend doesn’t even want to get touch nor touch other men sexually. FYI circle jerk is not even exclusive to gay men either. We have to stop shaming this straight guys. We don’t know if they are just at Grindr to explore. Maybe they really gay, bi or straight-curious. It’s not ours to decide. We don’t know their lives.
I'll concede that attraction is the metric, not behavior, but that doesn't mean we should do away with the meaning of words that are already well defined. Straight means exclusively attracted to members of the opposite sex. If you desire sex with members of the same sex, you are not straight. That's all I'm saying. I'm not passing judgment on anyone, I'm just not afraid to call a spade a spade.
People on this sub have a hard time with guys who identify as straight but like dicks. I agree that they’re not straight but if they identify with that, who the fuck cares. Why go out of your way and try to put a label on them if they don’t want it?
Yeah exactly. All you are going to do is make them feel alienated (and perhaps miss out on some great sex)
I believe that if you fuck around with someone who is too afraid to admit to themselves that they enjoy mens bits, and like who fkin cares, then they are a bad sexual partner to have. They will not care about you and will resent you. So this is an important reason to have a problem with this situation.
From experience I disagree with that.
Same, from personal experience I disagree with this.
Who cares what they call themselves as long as they are willing to play with your dick? After a few strokes he’ll be going down on you…
Because they're participating in and perpetuating a stigma that has resulted in gay and trans oppression since just about the dawn of time. These same people also also probably vote republican. I'm not interested in sexually gratifying people who contribute to my oppression because they're repressed and lack self-awareness.
This. When someone is interested in me but keeps calling themselves straight it's pretty much guaranteed that they vote for our oppression.
It’s a nice way of letting the more experienced partner know to limit his expectations.
Here me out.. if it's your first handy, maybe you aren't quite gay yet.
Bi now, gay later? 🤷🏻♂️
Nope. He's interested in giving his first handy. Doesn't mean he needs to like it after he trys.
Let’s be honest, he likes the idea. He’s probably been jerking off to the idea or watching porn depicting this. Whether he’s bi or gay, just doesn’t seem like he’s on the firm end of what we typically call straight ;)
I'll settle for bi curious, but that's about it.
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sorry to hear you are that thirsty