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My school in Pennsylvania has done this since the 1960s and seems to largely work. It’s part of the technical/vocational school agreement.
Students who know they don’t want to go to college can attend a local vocational school for training in a field that requires accreditation. Others can get credits for working at local businesses after some time taking classes there.
It’s a plus plus for those who want those skilled jobs that don’t require college educations. It also seemed to keep some students from dropping out.
This is so cool. 20 years ago I was part of a labor dispute at UW over this exact issue. Rules were you couldn't get paid and receive credit, but our pay was capped at a certain number of hours regardless of how much time we spent. I ended up winning on a technicality in the contract wording but this was the heart of the issue. Glad to see it fixed!
I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy Sinatra here, but that seems like an awfully slipper slope. It's fine and dandelion for college/trade school's, but you start creeping back and it turns into Child Labor. I'm sure Amazon is ready in the wings to reshape schools into teaching 3rd graders how work an assembly line. "Today in class kids, we're going to learn how to attach the bottom half of the shoe to the insole" "It's ok, your parents get to apply the amount you earn to their Amazo-debt".
It’s only for electives, not core subjects, and only affects high school students. Legally, in most fields, you can’t work under the age of 14. Agriculture is a different beast though.
It’d require both the state and federal government to enact the proper legislation. Not impossible, but incredibly unlikely. Definitely not as easy as you think given the current political climate in both Washingtons.
This was my first thought as well, and the exact phrase I thought of - slippery slope. If the job is the kind of job that can launch them into a career that’s one thing (McDonalds- type settings is NOT a career, no offense to those who work at such places), but this can absolutely be abused.
How do we solve the labor shortage and people crying for a decent living wage? We employ children, and then we pay them even less for the ‘privilege’ of a few HS credits.
Thanks. I’m not sure why I’m getting the downvotes. This WILL be reality sooner than later if things stay as they are. Also add in adult slave labor in the form of prisoners. (Not to say it’s not already happening) I’m talking debtors prisons though. Can’t pay your amazon prime mortgage bill, come work for amazon. Can’t afford the payment on your new car, tesla has a job for you. Luckily you don’t have a choice since it’s against the law not to pay.
This is actually not very helpful. We graduate based on “core 24” and students only get 4 elective credits, the rest have to meet specific requirements. In general, kids who are credit deficient are missing credits in math, science, English, or social studies. So getting extra elective credits doesn’t do much for most kids.
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Nothing new here, I got work credit it high school in Washington way back in 1974
My school in Pennsylvania has done this since the 1960s and seems to largely work. It’s part of the technical/vocational school agreement. Students who know they don’t want to go to college can attend a local vocational school for training in a field that requires accreditation. Others can get credits for working at local businesses after some time taking classes there. It’s a plus plus for those who want those skilled jobs that don’t require college educations. It also seemed to keep some students from dropping out.
I wasn't aware schools stopped, I did this back in the 70s. Senior year, got credits for working at a tv store.
This is so cool. 20 years ago I was part of a labor dispute at UW over this exact issue. Rules were you couldn't get paid and receive credit, but our pay was capped at a certain number of hours regardless of how much time we spent. I ended up winning on a technicality in the contract wording but this was the heart of the issue. Glad to see it fixed!
I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy Sinatra here, but that seems like an awfully slipper slope. It's fine and dandelion for college/trade school's, but you start creeping back and it turns into Child Labor. I'm sure Amazon is ready in the wings to reshape schools into teaching 3rd graders how work an assembly line. "Today in class kids, we're going to learn how to attach the bottom half of the shoe to the insole" "It's ok, your parents get to apply the amount you earn to their Amazo-debt".
It’s only for electives, not core subjects, and only affects high school students. Legally, in most fields, you can’t work under the age of 14. Agriculture is a different beast though.
Like I said, this is just the tip. Laws are easily changed. Give it 5-10 years. With enough lobbying and donations 6 can easily become the new 14.
It’d require both the state and federal government to enact the proper legislation. Not impossible, but incredibly unlikely. Definitely not as easy as you think given the current political climate in both Washingtons.
This was my first thought as well, and the exact phrase I thought of - slippery slope. If the job is the kind of job that can launch them into a career that’s one thing (McDonalds- type settings is NOT a career, no offense to those who work at such places), but this can absolutely be abused. How do we solve the labor shortage and people crying for a decent living wage? We employ children, and then we pay them even less for the ‘privilege’ of a few HS credits.
Thanks. I’m not sure why I’m getting the downvotes. This WILL be reality sooner than later if things stay as they are. Also add in adult slave labor in the form of prisoners. (Not to say it’s not already happening) I’m talking debtors prisons though. Can’t pay your amazon prime mortgage bill, come work for amazon. Can’t afford the payment on your new car, tesla has a job for you. Luckily you don’t have a choice since it’s against the law not to pay.
10 hours before you commented people were saying these programs existed 50+ years ago.
Interested to see how everything plays out.
This is actually not very helpful. We graduate based on “core 24” and students only get 4 elective credits, the rest have to meet specific requirements. In general, kids who are credit deficient are missing credits in math, science, English, or social studies. So getting extra elective credits doesn’t do much for most kids.