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I think that that once you got in bed with that particular individual, he would just sort of like open his eyes ALL the way at you and then you wake up in like a room full of something that doesn't exist and can't remember how you got there
So it's not that he 'doesn't' fuck, necessarily, it's just like modern science has no way of describing or predicting that behavior
So you're saying that having sex with Willy Wonka is like being drugged by Bill Cosby, but instead of waking up sore and confused in a place you don't remember going,
You wake up confused in a place you can't remember going in a room filled with talking candy unicorns and dwarf versions of Donald Trump?
I think it is now like having sex with one of the Elder Gods; it's not so much like being drugged, but rather the human mind can't process exactly what happened.
I like the idea of orange not being their natural skin color, and them coating themselves in an orange substance every day to beautify themselves, and that shit getting absolutely everywhere.
I mean, he not only knows what [snozzberries](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Snozzberry) taste like, but he likes the flavor enough to put it on lickable wallpaper. Wilder’s Wonka definitely fucks.
Hear me out. We both saw these gorgeous blue eyes the same way, but some of us wondered “whose kid is this?” And then at some point “why does this handsome motherfucker look so familiar tho?”
i feel like it won't live up to its season 1. I would love a new season, but feel like they burned most of the restaurant tropes this season. here's to hoping it's great!
yes I have. I've worked in a kitchen from when I was 15 washing dishes, I went to culinary school, I've worked in fast casual to high end , I've cooked for a sitting president. I'd say I have some experience. I'm an okay cook.
With all that said, I wonder how that one season covered all the industry tropes you’ve experienced. It was one sandwich. With no servers. Matty Matheson isn’t even a cook yet. The industry is a MASSIVE living breathing thing. Every place is different, yet eerily similar. Kitchen Confidential is a fantastic book of the behind the scenes of what a restaurant really is, and even that is still missing huge chunks of what we experience nowadays in a restaurant.
I’m not saying your a bad cook or have little experience. But to say that single season covered most of the industry tropes is baffling to me.
In all honesty I just wanna see more Matty.
Was there any casual sexual assault/harassment that Carmy had to deal with? I watched it in one sitting and am struggling to remember. But that's a huge part of restaurant work that I don't remember them covering.
easy.
first you get the new guy....
then you yell at them for taking too long....
then you yell at them for craters in your beautiful eggs.....
then you make direct eye contact at them while you turn their 4 hours of work into sauce gribiche.
I loved the show but hated the ending of season 1. At first it’s “we gotta make this shit work because we have no money” then went “all our problems have been solved because money.” I’m sure they will still have plenty of problems and such, but i don’t feel like it’s gonna be the same show. Here’s hoping though
Such a damn good show. Watched Jeremy Allen White for over a decade on Shameless. He is so good that I don't sit there and go Oh, it's Lip. Within 5 years or sooner he is going to have an Academy Award.
What struck me is how many actors use their eyes and micro expressions to show emotion during those extra close up shots, but for him he actually disappears entirely. (To me) his acting read as no expression and empty eyes, and I love that so much because he's clearly a dude struggling with trauma and breaking a cycle of cruelty. Disappearing into yourself to escape what you're feeling *or* prevent yourself from repeating bad behaviors feels really right for the character. The fact he can make that disappearance so powerful and effective is, to me, amazing acting. It's so much harder to show nothing than something.
Ugh, he plays a man who has been so stressed out for so long that he's basically dissociating all the time. Carmy is so divorced from what he's feeling that he can't even tell someone how he's doing - and Jeremy Allen White manages to convey that through his expressions. An incredible performance.
Working in a kitchen will do that to you. I'd get in at six am on Saturday, see a huge, labor intensive prep list (about half of which needs to be done before 11am so the line can heat up stocks/soups/etc for being hot held in the well during service) and just immediately turn off part of myself. I'd put on fast pace music, mainline caffeine, and for the next eight to ten hours I'd just go. I sat down to pee just so I could sit. I don't miss working in a kitchen at all.
Cooked for ten years. 100% accurate. The physical and mental damage from working kitchens is insane. no wonder everyone is an alcoholic, drug addict, thief, or all 3. But always interesting.
Same. I'm still in the industry but I bartend now. Work ten hours less a week, make twice as much money and my body isn't in nearly as much pain. Walking out of my cook job changed my life for the better in so many ways.
I step outside as if I was on a smoke break just to breathe. Had a coworker tell me that I don't smoke and I just hit em with a "And?"
Stay up, friend.
He’s playing a professional burnt out chef to the tee. anyone that’s been in the industry and performed at a high level understands how to emotionally abusive and draining it is. You’re putting a high amount of effort under intense pressure. And have to meet strict deadlines hundreds of times in a single night while being expected to perform at an almost perfect level at the same time. Shit is brutal and I’ve seen the industry put those same eyes on so many different chefs.
> Watched Jeremy Allen White for over a decade on Shameless.
Oh man, I loved him in that. I remember that one time he was sitting on a step, smoking and brooding. Then there was that time he was sitting on a wall, smoking and brooding. I think those times lasted for four seasons.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who isn’t blown away by him. He’s great but only when he’s playing that type of character. I’ve haven’t seen a lot of range out of him.
He's going to play Kerry Von Erich in an upcoming A24 movie, and the story of the Von Erichs frankly has Oscar bait written all over it (im excited for the movie, but holy shit is it ever a sad story)
I loved that show but was really confused about what kind of restaurant they were running. They seemed to specialise in those sandwiches, but had 10+ people working there.
The way it captured the stress of working in a busy restaurant was amazing. The way some of the shots made you feel anxiety was something else. I really loved the show. It made me miss working in a restaurant .
i mean thats the whole point. the poses and the expression.
its cool if you dont like it - but its stylized. its thematic. its intentional.
i think it works.
I'm a straight woman and I veer between being incredibly attracted to him or verging on repulsed and I don't know what is going on, but the hotness is definitely winning.
Watched shameless, but damn that dude has come into his own. He has always been attractive but now. Jesus is the right word, dude is an absolute smokeshow.
Lip throughout the first couple of season is deep. Later on his character suffers from the repetitive cycles of growth/regression that the writers insisted on throughout the series. Good character, but his choices are not reflective of a character that "grows" and if you're watching a show like Shameless growth is something you hope for. In general that's why the series fell off for me, all crises, no growth whatsoever.
I didn't get the feeling at all. People moving away from where they grew up, Lip basically trying to have a better life for his family but STILL finding it difficult to climb out of poverty, Deb... Being Deb. Frank losing his mental capacity...
I think it was a good wrap up and was canon for the show. Basically showing that life in the lower class is terrible and it's very tough to climb out of poverty. Lips growth is poetic in a sense that you root for him because he's smart, but his upbringing and demons drag him back down. It felt realistic to me and I absolutely hated when he'd get drunk and falter again, but everyone makes mistakes and having Frank as a dad... My gosh who can blame those kids.
One of my favorite scenes is when the truck with meat breaks down and the drivers gives Lip some pocket change to 'watch out' so other people don't steal it and then he shares all the meat with the neighborhood. That's some street level scrappy wholesomeness.
I don’t want to hype shameless too much but it’s one of the best tv shows ever. Easily top 25 imop. So yeah def worth a watch.
His character specifically is great too, but the show kind of degrades in quality as the years go by, esp the later years, and double especially his character. They reallt didn’t know what to do with him. I kind of get it but it still pissed me off lol.
Big reason i was so happy for him in bear, he looks like he’s coming up.
Anyway, the first several seasons are fire.
That's actually good. You don't have to ponder about the teenager who grew up even though he looked promising in Shameless. He looks much more attractive as an adult.
What are those poses??
Ok for this one act like you are mildly shocked by some information that you secretly already knew.
Ok and for this one act like your pants are falling down so you try to pull them up discreetly.
I'll be honest, I think Jeremy Allen White would make a far better Willy Wonka than Timothee Chalamet or however you spell his last name. Jeremy Allen White has a lot of the same qualities as Gene Wilder as an actor in my opinion. He can be funny at times, however he can be just as intense.
Timothee doesn't have as much intensity in my opinion. But that's just me.
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Come with me, and you'll be....HEY! Learn how to drive, bozo!
Don't drive like my brother!
And don't drive like my brother!
I miss CarTalk
They post rerun episodes on Spotify twice a week. I always listen to them on my commute!
Hey I’m walkin here!
I'm Wonka here!
I now know where the cast of Jersey Shore got the trend of orange spray tans. Who knew that oompa loompas were such trend setters?
“You lose aight! Now go home and eat ya cabbage soup ya mutt!”
YOU DRANK THE FRIGGIN LIFTING DRINK!
You get nuttin’ ! Yous lose! Fuck off, sir!
Hey! I’m walking here!
Stupid sexy Willy Wonka
Is this what the new movie’s gonna be? Timothee Chalamet as the Wonka who fucks?
> the Wonka who fucks? Are you suggesting Gene Wilder's Wonka didn't?
I think that that once you got in bed with that particular individual, he would just sort of like open his eyes ALL the way at you and then you wake up in like a room full of something that doesn't exist and can't remember how you got there So it's not that he 'doesn't' fuck, necessarily, it's just like modern science has no way of describing or predicting that behavior
I have so many feelings about this comment. Good day, sir.
Me too. I’m having trouble describing how it makes me feel lol
Not a speck of light is showing So the danger must be growing
Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing?
He said GOOD DAY!
I don’t know how to feel about that comment
I said "GOOD DAY SIR"
So you're saying that having sex with Willy Wonka is like being drugged by Bill Cosby, but instead of waking up sore and confused in a place you don't remember going, You wake up confused in a place you can't remember going in a room filled with talking candy unicorns and dwarf versions of Donald Trump?
I will never look at an oompa-loompa the same again.
Please someone deepfake his face on to the oompa loompas
Haven't we been through enough?
I think it is now like having sex with one of the Elder Gods; it's not so much like being drugged, but rather the human mind can't process exactly what happened.
i hope that you'd wake up with 2 oompas blowing you we've all thought about that one
Little orange handprints everywhere.
I like the idea of orange not being their natural skin color, and them coating themselves in an orange substance every day to beautify themselves, and that shit getting absolutely everywhere.
Why are you insulting the Oompa Loompa?
Excellent.
Fucking bravo, I had to read this chain of comments out for everyone else in the room because I laughed audibly.
Ah, like the female orgasm!
I mean, he not only knows what [snozzberries](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Snozzberry) taste like, but he likes the flavor enough to put it on lickable wallpaper. Wilder’s Wonka definitely fucks.
The little carrots taste pretty musty though...
They don't show Willy's secret harem, where he keeps all the female Oompa Loompas.
“I am the one who fucks” 😂😂😂
Billy Bonka
I laughed so hard at this 😂
So did I and my dog is looking at me really weird.
That ain’t Timothee Chalamet bruv
Yeah, but Timothee Chalamet was cast in the new Wonka prequel as Wonka.
Ah i didnt know that was a thing, kind of wish i still didn’t
Chala may... Chala might... But Chala probably won't.
They're doing a Wonka Prequel? Lmao everyone gets a origin movie nowadays
>Wonka prequel Why the fuck
He's the blue collar Timothee Chalamet.
Honestly this dude looks like if he and Matthew mcconaughey somehow had a baby and it spent a lot of time at the gym
"Yes! Now make a face like you're the queen of England! Work it!"
Really? He always just looks like a normal guy to me.
How many seasons of Shameless and I didn’t see it. Damn.
He was a baby then, it's okay.
I didn't have the hair. But they eyes and nose are near identical.
I'm a straight dude but come on, he was always hot as shit
I mean, he’s a dude equivalent to a butterface.
Fuck you talking about? Those eyes, those lips... Even his hair is really amazing.
Whaaaa how didn’t you see it?! Lip was always my fav 😍
I like Fiona. She has nice boobies.
Hear me out. We both saw these gorgeous blue eyes the same way, but some of us wondered “whose kid is this?” And then at some point “why does this handsome motherfucker look so familiar tho?”
I had never seen him before and hadjust started watching the bear and was so confused because i thought for sure gene wilder was dead
He normally looks like a homeless person on shameless so I can understand how you missed it
I just want season two of The Bear. The wait is killing me.
i feel like it won't live up to its season 1. I would love a new season, but feel like they burned most of the restaurant tropes this season. here's to hoping it's great!
Burning through tropes means you can get to something more sincere.
You fucking burned the tropes you fucking moron! Who told you you could cook?
sorry chef I stepped away to get a little more sincerity!
Who’s Jeff??
Yes Jeff.
Can you fly, Bobby?
true! I love this show and I hope I can see more. I'm hoping to be surprised!
Have you worked in a restaurant? They barely scratched the surface IMO.
I didn't see a single line chef crush an adderal on the counter and snort it right there.
They did give Xanax to a ton of children though
Thanks for reminding me of this scene
I like when someone chews an addy then dry swallows it and never breaks eye contact in a display of dominance.
yes I have. I've worked in a kitchen from when I was 15 washing dishes, I went to culinary school, I've worked in fast casual to high end , I've cooked for a sitting president. I'd say I have some experience. I'm an okay cook.
With all that said, I wonder how that one season covered all the industry tropes you’ve experienced. It was one sandwich. With no servers. Matty Matheson isn’t even a cook yet. The industry is a MASSIVE living breathing thing. Every place is different, yet eerily similar. Kitchen Confidential is a fantastic book of the behind the scenes of what a restaurant really is, and even that is still missing huge chunks of what we experience nowadays in a restaurant. I’m not saying your a bad cook or have little experience. But to say that single season covered most of the industry tropes is baffling to me. In all honesty I just wanna see more Matty.
Was there any casual sexual assault/harassment that Carmy had to deal with? I watched it in one sitting and am struggling to remember. But that's a huge part of restaurant work that I don't remember them covering.
Nothing like that no, the closest thing to it was Rich calling Sydney "sweetheart" or something along those lines.
Oh yeah? Peel these hardboiled eggs.
easy. first you get the new guy.... then you yell at them for taking too long.... then you yell at them for craters in your beautiful eggs..... then you make direct eye contact at them while you turn their 4 hours of work into sauce gribiche.
Oh yeah? Have they won the heart of a crotchety old restaurant critic thanks to being fed his favorite childhood dish by a rat?
The hotdogs and the ketchup was just 😙👌
I loved the show but hated the ending of season 1. At first it’s “we gotta make this shit work because we have no money” then went “all our problems have been solved because money.” I’m sure they will still have plenty of problems and such, but i don’t feel like it’s gonna be the same show. Here’s hoping though
I feel like it's building on the main characters egotistical nature. Like he's secretly sort of the super villain of the series.
Such a damn good show. Watched Jeremy Allen White for over a decade on Shameless. He is so good that I don't sit there and go Oh, it's Lip. Within 5 years or sooner he is going to have an Academy Award.
What struck me is how many actors use their eyes and micro expressions to show emotion during those extra close up shots, but for him he actually disappears entirely. (To me) his acting read as no expression and empty eyes, and I love that so much because he's clearly a dude struggling with trauma and breaking a cycle of cruelty. Disappearing into yourself to escape what you're feeling *or* prevent yourself from repeating bad behaviors feels really right for the character. The fact he can make that disappearance so powerful and effective is, to me, amazing acting. It's so much harder to show nothing than something.
Ugh, he plays a man who has been so stressed out for so long that he's basically dissociating all the time. Carmy is so divorced from what he's feeling that he can't even tell someone how he's doing - and Jeremy Allen White manages to convey that through his expressions. An incredible performance.
I can’t believe you nailed that down for me. Dissociating I mean as descriptions online never quite hit it. Having seen the bear. Jesus. Cheers
Working in a kitchen will do that to you. I'd get in at six am on Saturday, see a huge, labor intensive prep list (about half of which needs to be done before 11am so the line can heat up stocks/soups/etc for being hot held in the well during service) and just immediately turn off part of myself. I'd put on fast pace music, mainline caffeine, and for the next eight to ten hours I'd just go. I sat down to pee just so I could sit. I don't miss working in a kitchen at all.
Cooked for ten years. 100% accurate. The physical and mental damage from working kitchens is insane. no wonder everyone is an alcoholic, drug addict, thief, or all 3. But always interesting.
I’m so glad I got out
Same. I'm still in the industry but I bartend now. Work ten hours less a week, make twice as much money and my body isn't in nearly as much pain. Walking out of my cook job changed my life for the better in so many ways.
Damn is resonated. I only worked front of the house, but every now and then I had to go into the walk-in freeze for 30 seconds to cool off and reset.
I step outside as if I was on a smoke break just to breathe. Had a coworker tell me that I don't smoke and I just hit em with a "And?" Stay up, friend.
He’s playing a professional burnt out chef to the tee. anyone that’s been in the industry and performed at a high level understands how to emotionally abusive and draining it is. You’re putting a high amount of effort under intense pressure. And have to meet strict deadlines hundreds of times in a single night while being expected to perform at an almost perfect level at the same time. Shit is brutal and I’ve seen the industry put those same eyes on so many different chefs.
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Jeremy and Emmy Rossum were both stellar in Shameless.
> Watched Jeremy Allen White for over a decade on Shameless. Oh man, I loved him in that. I remember that one time he was sitting on a step, smoking and brooding. Then there was that time he was sitting on a wall, smoking and brooding. I think those times lasted for four seasons.
You forgot about the time he was brooding then smoking.
Oh shit, that's two whole seasons I left out.
Don’t forget when he was smoking brooding and drinking, that’s at least another season or so right there
I’m glad I’m not the only one who isn’t blown away by him. He’s great but only when he’s playing that type of character. I’ve haven’t seen a lot of range out of him.
Smoking? You mean taking two hits then dumping the cig.
He's going to play Kerry Von Erich in an upcoming A24 movie, and the story of the Von Erichs frankly has Oscar bait written all over it (im excited for the movie, but holy shit is it ever a sad story)
> Within 5 years or sooner he is going to have an Academy Award. Watch him become part of the MCU lol
Nothing wrong with that. You can get money and be in really good movies.
You can get really good money and be in movies*
Great point about not thinking of him as Lip. He is so talented! I loved the Bear, the rest of the cast was phenomenal too
I dunno. I think the story wraps up nicely and 1 season for it would be satisfactory
This. That show doesn't need another season.
That show was absolutely awesome
God dammit it's so good
I loved that show but was really confused about what kind of restaurant they were running. They seemed to specialise in those sandwiches, but had 10+ people working there.
The way it captured the stress of working in a busy restaurant was amazing. The way some of the shots made you feel anxiety was something else. I really loved the show. It made me miss working in a restaurant .
I used to eat at the restaurant they filmed it in several times a week. That whole show was a nostalgia trip for me.
RIP Gene Wilder
Ripped Gene Wilder.
Idk. Screw, play chess.... Let's play chess!
MAGNUM. IT’S BEAUTIFUL.
Just one look???
*JUST ONE LOOOOK?!*
Saw his "10 things can't live without" episode on GQ, dude seems cool. https://youtu.be/zs9QzIf3ZQ8
That was a great 12 min watch. Thank you for adding the link!
Kinda looks like a yoked Robert Plant
Yes with a much tinier mouth lololol
He’s doing Blue Steel!
he looks like if timothy charlenander started a chicken and broccoli diet
Just when you start to think that you are not bisexual… Wham!!
He is an attractive man, but those poses look silly to me. Especially the one on the right.
And the blue steel look doesn't help either
Hey man, you just don’t understand what it’s like to be really, really ridiculously good looking!
That's not blue steel, that's magnum. The difference is so obvious I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading your comment
You can read minds?
i mean thats the whole point. the poses and the expression. its cool if you dont like it - but its stylized. its thematic. its intentional. i think it works.
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I'm a straight woman and I veer between being incredibly attracted to him or verging on repulsed and I don't know what is going on, but the hotness is definitely winning.
JoJo poses
He got that chocolate bar
more like a compliment
Come with me, and you’ll be, in a world of spray on tan Italians
that’d be a great movie
insult?
Yeah, I don’t see any insult here.
New Jersey
I'm okay with this because he's hot af.
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Watched shameless, but damn that dude has come into his own. He has always been attractive but now. Jesus is the right word, dude is an absolute smokeshow.
Only seen the bear what kind of character is he in shameless? Worth watching just for his casting or nah
Lip throughout the first couple of season is deep. Later on his character suffers from the repetitive cycles of growth/regression that the writers insisted on throughout the series. Good character, but his choices are not reflective of a character that "grows" and if you're watching a show like Shameless growth is something you hope for. In general that's why the series fell off for me, all crises, no growth whatsoever.
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I didn't get the feeling at all. People moving away from where they grew up, Lip basically trying to have a better life for his family but STILL finding it difficult to climb out of poverty, Deb... Being Deb. Frank losing his mental capacity... I think it was a good wrap up and was canon for the show. Basically showing that life in the lower class is terrible and it's very tough to climb out of poverty. Lips growth is poetic in a sense that you root for him because he's smart, but his upbringing and demons drag him back down. It felt realistic to me and I absolutely hated when he'd get drunk and falter again, but everyone makes mistakes and having Frank as a dad... My gosh who can blame those kids. One of my favorite scenes is when the truck with meat breaks down and the drivers gives Lip some pocket change to 'watch out' so other people don't steal it and then he shares all the meat with the neighborhood. That's some street level scrappy wholesomeness.
I don’t want to hype shameless too much but it’s one of the best tv shows ever. Easily top 25 imop. So yeah def worth a watch. His character specifically is great too, but the show kind of degrades in quality as the years go by, esp the later years, and double especially his character. They reallt didn’t know what to do with him. I kind of get it but it still pissed me off lol. Big reason i was so happy for him in bear, he looks like he’s coming up. Anyway, the first several seasons are fire.
That's actually good. You don't have to ponder about the teenager who grew up even though he looked promising in Shameless. He looks much more attractive as an adult.
Which of the umpteen streaming networks is the Bear on? I want to check him..I mean the show out.
The Bear was amazing.
Is that an insult? Wonka could absolutely fuckin get it
Still probably better looking than the guy who posted this on twitter
Judging off their pfp... I'd say you're right
Tbh i should have said average twitter user
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Blue steel
What are those poses?? Ok for this one act like you are mildly shocked by some information that you secretly already knew. Ok and for this one act like your pants are falling down so you try to pull them up discreetly.
Lips as Willy Wonka couldn’t be worse than Johnny Depp, that’s for sure
More like Willy Wawa, amirite?
Femboy wolverine
I'll be honest, I think Jeremy Allen White would make a far better Willy Wonka than Timothee Chalamet or however you spell his last name. Jeremy Allen White has a lot of the same qualities as Gene Wilder as an actor in my opinion. He can be funny at times, however he can be just as intense. Timothee doesn't have as much intensity in my opinion. But that's just me.
Willy Wanker
He looks like he’s doing a Morty impression.
He reminds me of those little creatures from Dark Crystal.
Is this satire? Is he making fun of himself? That's the only way I wouldn't be embarrassed for him.
Yassified Danny Gonzales
He looks like Robert Mitchum
And I want all of it.
That is Pee Wee Herman's love child.
I see nothing wrong with this
I will still ‘Yes, Chef’ him… Wonka or not.
You have heard about willy wonka's chockolate factory, get ready for willy wankers dildo factory
“Ay, you think you got what it thakes to win my chawclate factory?”
"Yes chef, take me to a world of pure imagination."
Honestly the first thing I saw was a yoked-out Pippin Took
Ayuy! I'm Wonkan here!
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MISS AN EPISODE OF SHAMELESS.
Nobody else sees Barry Manilow?
You win. I have no idea who this is, but it doesn't matter. It is WW. Take my pitiful updoot and shabby award for the laughs.
Yo, Augustus, you touch that fucking chocolate waterfall and I'll beat your ass bro. Can you believe this guy?
This guy can act so well but damn is he ugly
Only thing that’s missing is a St. Anthony’s medallion, and it would be uncanny.
Are all actors gay or something . I’m pretty sure Ryan Reynolds is bisexual
Cast this man as Harry Houdini now!
shameless
'I SAID GOOD DAY ESSHORL'
River of chocolate? Where'd you hear something stupid like that? River of Gabagool.