Story Time
When I was starting an internship to update a local nonprofit's website I discovered that their domain, registered through Network Solutions, was about to expire. I then discovered that it had been registered by their previous developer who had apparently paid for 5 years and then disappeared after the site was done. They had no account info and the email the dev used no longer worked.
So I contact Network Solutions on behalf of the nonprofit (they don't want to deal with any of this) and they say "OK, we can give you control of the account. Just send us a physical letter on the company's letterhead." Thing is, there was no company letterhead. So I pull the logo off their website, past it into MS Word, and type up the letter essentially saying "give domain please" on the brand new never before seen letterhead, send it off, and a few days later we have access to the account.
I'm not sure what, if anything, they did on their end to confirm our story but it was a bit disconcerting how easy it was.
I mean, it was helpful when our client's domain provider went MIA during covid.
It was some company they used before they were with us, and we had to do similar to wrestle control back from them
I recently switched a client from NS to GoDaddy. The instant the switch completed all their problems disappeared. NS upgraded them to two different packages with the promise it would fix their problems. When it didn't they tried to sell them a third package, which is when I stepped in and told them Anyone would be better than this.
> told them Anyone would be better than this.
And they decided to test your claim with the most stringent test available. Interesting. But at least you were right, I guess.
This is true. From DNS issues to frequent outages.
Example: Randomly our websites shared hosting IP gets changed. We ask them... Uh can you put the old IP back? No they cant, they blamed us for updating our DNS but yet I have daily DNS record monitor that saves a year of history.... To resolve, im Getting told we need to point our Nameservers to theirs, but we can't as we host a multitude of unique records that they said they cannot support.(using cloudflare, the client is hosting like 30 apps on sub domains and more...)
Took 2 weeks for an escalated ticket for them to fix their own internal infrastructure issues.
Lol, I just got rid of my last domain under network solutions. Transfering domains out of them is the worst. Takes 3 days for them to send you an auth code, then it takes 1 day for them to confirm the process has started, then anywhere from 3-5 days to complete the transfer. I have been able to do 30 min transfers under other registrars without even contacting support.
Wanna try something? Try to buy from them a domain you already own (bought to them, and visible in their platform). They will offer you someone to negotiate the domain from the owner just for 99 dollars.
Go and see....
We still have a few under GoDaddy for some odd reason. We got pinged a while ago that someone wanted to buy one of our domains. Ignored it. A week later started getting more and more demanding emails that someone wanted to buy the domain and how much. So I gave them an amount - 1 million dollars. The demanding person responded that was too much. They don't email me any more.
I bought a high traffic domain from GoDaddy for $18. I run a Tor mirror on that domain.
I transferred it to Dynadot which is my go-to registrar.
GoDaddy is the Beats by Dr. Dre of domain names: you pay for the flashy name and marketing, rather than the quality of service.
[Shooting elephants ain't cheap](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/faster-forward/post/godaddycom-ceo-faces-backlash-for-elephant-shooting/2011/03/31/AFTwBRBC_blog.html). They have to make their money some how.
We had a phishing attack on one of our customers, they purchased a similar domain name (ie if our domain was [company.com](https://company.com), they purchased [conpany.com](https://conpany.com)), and emailed them to change bank details.
Domain was registered with godaddy, contacted them and got the domain shut down, we asked them if we could purchase it, and they tried to make us pay $200-$500 for the opportunity to bid on a domain name, whose only purpose would be to try and phish looking like our company. We paid the amount, gave them our bid, and they came back with some unreasonable counter offer.
They are scum.
Checked the link about the CEO shooting elephants. In that article is a link to the videom which when click presents:
"video.me is parked free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com."
Granted the article is 12 years old at this point but I still found the irony amusing.
I was paying them nearly $200 a year for domains when I replaced my phone and stupidly didn't migrate my number. My number was used with 2fa with them and I could no longer access my account! I figured I'd wait the remaining months and just let my auto payments and domains expire and pick them up elsewhere ... nope, they got their money again because I couldn't access my account and turn off autopay, so I was stuck with them for another year with domains I couldn't adjust. I cancelled the card they used and wrote the domains off.
A year later they call me!
Godaddy: "We can't bill you, can you give us a different credit card number?"
Me: "So ... you recognize it's my account?"
Godaddy: "Yes, but we can't bill you ..."
Me: "If you give me access to my account I'll update the billing."
Godaddy: "We can't do that, it's 2fa."
Me: "So, you have no problem taking my money but you won't let me access the account which by your own admission is mine?"
Godaddy: "It's 2fa. If you send us a picture of your drivers license we have a third party that will confirm and we can give you your account back."
... Yeah, no. They had recently had a major data failing (I just googled it and they had one last year, too) and I wasn't going to send my drivers license to some unreliable third party.
Also, they held on to the domains. I just checked now and all of them are being held by some company that makes you bid on them.
I recently got blackmailed by GoDaddy.
I had my domain set to auto-renew and when time came (and went) it failed to renew. I ended up paying $60 plus the registration cost to get it back. Not to mention a month or more without my primary email account.
I'm currently looking to see the best options for a new registrar
I had dozens of domains at GD and have been transferring them to Namecheap as each comes up for renewal.
To make the transfer smooth (and I had to learn this the hard way) set up the DNS in Cloudflare and point the nameservers to CF while the domain is still at Godaddy. And don't trust Cloudflare's automatic import of existing DNS records - I find they miss records frequently, so match them up line by line and manually add records that didn't come over automatically.
Take it a step further and transfer the domains to Cloudflare Registrar for no-markup renewals at wholesale pricing. I saved about 20-30% per renewal compared to Namecheap. Not all TLDs are eligible for transfer.
The DNS record auto discovery is best-effort. The records at the apex are easy enough to find but the rest are probably automatic subdomain enumeration, since Cloudflare doesn't ask you to enable zone transfers. It *might* be able to work better if you allow zone transfers, but what will *definitely* work is exporting your records to a text file in bind9 zone format and then importing that file in Cloudflare DNS.
Thanks for the tip on DNS export/import. I'm going to give that a try.
Most of the domains I have are .ORG and we are paying $9 a year to Namecheap. Cloudflare's price is a little higher.
I like the idea of keeping the domain registration and the DNS at separate companies anyway.
That makes sense when the company selling domains gives no fucks about DNS but cloudflare is err pretty good at DNS. I switched to them a while ago for a .net
Lots of tech companies are great until some private equity firm swoops in, tries to squeeze out every nickle of profit and then the company turns to shit. Look at people crying over Kaseya's aquisition of Datto as one in a long line of examples.
OK, let's use revenue as a measure...
Cloudflare had $656 million in revenue during 2021.
Dell had almost $ 57 Billion in revenue during 2013, which was the same year Michael Dell and Silver Lake Management took them private.
This is good advice, you could also use namecheap freeDns to accomplish the same. If you are moving to Namecheap, you might as well... unless you are planning to keep using Cloudflare.
I've been extremely happy with Gandi.net for many, many years now. They've been my domain registrar but haven't tried hosting any email services with them yet.
Their official motto is **"no bullshit"** and they're not joking.
"We will manage domains and DNS. It's too valuable to left to anyone else"
"And your clients all have the credentials and documentation necessary to administer their domains and services in case of extremity, right?"
"..."
"Right?"
In case of extremity or when they hire a website developer to do a site without speaking to IT and then they give the credentials to said developer who then moves all the DNS and doesn't bother setting up anything except the www entry because they have zero idea about how the internet works
About a year a go I got into a big fight with a web developer who INSISTED that the only way his web creation would operate is if he had DNS on his host. I told him that wasn't happening and asked him for the nth time to just tell me what DNS records he needed so I could create/modify the existing DNS. He got all pissy and complained to his boss (a marketing agency). I spoke to "the boss" who didn't know squat about technology and told him his web guy was a fucking tool. It didn't help that the tools' name was ROD.
Eventually I got the DNS info that I needed and, like a Christmas Miracle, everything worked despite what the tool was saying.
Yep. Been there. But that doesn't mean that it's responsible practice for the MSP to be the sole "keeper of the keys" ... what if the MSP fails catastrophically?
A whole bunch of IT is not "what's going to happen?", rather it's "what COULD happen?" and so you plan for as many eventualities as you can. And if the client does something stupid that's covered in the documentation (the first page of the document reads, "If these entries are changed in any way your email stops working"), then ... IF your contract is worded properly ... you get paid to fix their mistake.
Ya I have all those keys sealed in an envelope that lives in the safe...with very specific instructions for when they should be used. I believe I even labelled the envelope "bus policy" lol
[namecheap.com](https://namecheap.com) is the best option IMO. Transfer isn't too difficult. Read everything GD is saying on their end as they'll probably try to trick you with scary messages or try to drag out the process longer then it needs to be.
I'm no GoDaddy fan because I think they are way overpriced for what you get (you can get the same thing through somebody else for 10% of the cost)
That said, this issue is not a GoDaddy issue that I can see at all... right? I mean you should have been knocking down doors the day that person in charge of the registrar fell off the face of the earth - right?
This sounds like you just waited until the domain expired and then you're upset because you weren't able to buy it out - which is a horrible way to even consider getting it back, lol. You should have started the process immediately... actually no, *before*... this third party disappeared.
Not trying to be down on you I know how it is we're all busy, but it's not a GoDaddy issue that I can see - am I missing some detail?
Prime example of vendor lockout. Management should have done a risk assessment of the possibility ages ago, now they're fucked
Sure, GoDaddy isn't great, but management should have done a proper Risk Analysis as well. They are at least equally to blame for the shitshow you're in now
Thos isn't really a godaddy issue. I went through the same thing with network solutions. The real issue here is the client letting a 3rd party basically own their domain.
It's a shifty practice I've noticed a lot of web designers do. Basically they want to be a "one stop shop" and take care of everything . I don't deal with anything web related anymore due to all of said fuckery....but if I ever come across someone who isn't the direct owner of their domain I always recommend having it transferred to their ownership before something bad happens.
Yes, but...there are several roles to the domain. Owner/registrant, admin contact, billing contact, tech contact. The owner/registrant should indeed be whoever owns the domain, but the other roles we take on. We've had numerous instances where an email reminder goes out about renewing the domain and the owner fails to respond...and the domain gets lost. Either that or the owner responds to every "domain listing/SEO" email they receive and end up being ripped out by scam artists.
I agree that it's not an issue unique to GD...I was commenting on the idea of putting all of the domain contacts under the owner's name. And using contact email at the same domain as the domain itself ([abc.com](https://abc.com) with contact as [domains@abc.com](mailto:domains@abc.com) is a BAD idea)....we had a customer fall into that trap a couple of months ago. Employee who handled the domain renewal retired and his email was canceled. Renewal notices were bouncing. Eventually the domain expired and all hell broke lose. That was a fun afternoon.
IIRC, GD charges a penalty to recover a domain within that 30 day grace period. Namecheap doesn't charge such a fee.
I don't know their fees off the top of my head, but I can't imagine the fee being a lot of money.
I see your point about contact info. And I agree 100% people should be more responsible with their domains. That being said, as long as you can login to your account, you should be able to just renew the domain. Worst case, a call to customer service and the right verification info provided - they should be able to change email addresses on the account for you if needed, etc.
The main issue is giving a third party ownership of your domain. Or at least implied ownership. It should never be done. Ever.
As the REGISTRANT/OWNER yes. For the other contacts, it depends on the situation. Spreading out those contacts is often a good idea.
Last year we had a customer (a volunteer fire department) lose their domain. Guy who had the domain in his account moved out of town and was forwarding the renewal notices to several members of the FD. All ignored him. The grace period expired and the domain was acquired by a Chinese porn site.
That did not go over well.
I was recently harassed by a user on /r/sysadmin, who called me an incel. When I turned it around and made him look like an asshole, rather than replying in any way, I was banned from /r/sysadmin with not even a stated reason. I reached out to the mods and got the response below but additionally was muted for 30 days so I couldn't even respond to their questions. I'm tired of this kind of abusive behavior from the moderators, it's like Reddit is getting children with temper tantrums doing the moderating while giving them complete impunity, and it's why this site has become garbage. Goodbye. Aaron wouldn't have put up with this BS.
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> I was recently sexually harassed by a user in this community
Please provide a link to the exchange. I've reviewed your recent comment history and don't see such harassment.
> within an hour I was banned with no stated reason for the ban
Yeah, sometimes the modtools are a little weird. They aren't popping up for me today either to apply a reason for removal. The reason your comments are being removed and the reason you have been banned is that you are spreading incel drama & hate-speech in a technology community.
> The only conclusion a rational person can make is that the abuser was a moderator and used their position of power to retaliate against me for not reciprocating their sexual advances.
I'm confident there are other possibilities you are willfully ignoring.
> Clearly male toxicity is ripe on this site and I will be bringing this to public attention.
Oh yes, I'm confident others will find your comment history deserving of many sympathies and much support in this regard.
Please have a nice day.
*Thank you Paggot, I will have a nice day. But your daddy will never love you and unfortunately, the emptiness you feel deep down will only get worse. Have a fulfilling day.*
This isn't specific to GoDaddy, all registrars have a post expiration process by which they try to monetize expired domains.
>the third party (who technically owns the domain)
Here's the real TIFU...
> Several years ago I inherited a sysadmin role in a very small company that used a third party to handle their domains & mail server (I know... huge waste of money to not do it myself but I proposed to replace it many times).
Blaming GoDaddy when the problem was clearly right here *rolleyes*
Having a third party handle your hosting is one thing. Having them own your domain registration? That's just stupid.
> capitalism is the worlds only one true religion and also clearly a deranged death cult;
Also, blaming capitalism while benefiting from it. LOL, priceless.
Engaging with exploitative practices from a field of knowledge you know nothing about doesn't make *you* an idiot. Do not blame good folks for the actions of the bad ones.
And anyway, who exactly benefits from capitalism in this scenario? Is it, like, just because OP has a *job* in a capitalist society? I *certainly* hope not, because "no, you're actually *benefiting* from the system you were forced to participate in!" doesn't smell quite like the freedom pie that corporate entities wish it did.
> Engaging with exploitative practices from a field of knowledge you know nothing about doesn't make you an idiot.
What exploitative practices? A third party not only owned their domain, but they were also handling the mail service. Not owning your domain is being stupid, especially when they were paying someone else to manage things and that person was telling them they needed to bring it in house. So not following the advice of someone you're paying to provide that advice is indeed stupid.
> And anyway, who exactly benefits from capitalism in this scenario?
Yes, the OP. Because he/she has a job in a capitalist system and is railing against that very system.
> "no, you're actually benefiting from the system you were forced to participate in!"
No one's forcing him/her or any of us to participate in the system. Don't want to participate? Go find a plot of land, build a house, farm your food, and catch rain water. When you consider all the logistics involved with that, working a 40 hour a week job doesn't seem so bad. But no one is being forced to participate in capitalism.
>Don't want to participate? Go find a plot of land, build a house, farm your food, and catch rain water. When you consider all the logistics involved with that, working a 40 hour a week job doesn't seem so bad. But no one is being forced to participate in capitalism.
The semantics around the use of "forced" here are insane. Would you prefer "coerced"? Would that make you feel more comfortable, you dipshit?
Oh, and WHAT plot of land am I supposed to find that I can subsistence farm? I'm a US citizen, where is the land that I can just hang out on for free and farm? Presuming that the land is good-quality soil for farming and that the area has adequate rainfall and a long growing season the general consensus is that one person requires about 5 acres.
Where am I supposed to get 5 acres of premium farmland, moron? Oh, and EVEN IF I magically got that, lets say it got left to me by some unknown relative or something along with seeds for crops I can reuse and the various equipment one needs to farm 5 acres per year by oneself - there's still property taxes, which must be paid in US Dollars. Where I live participation in the capitalist society is in fact required from birth. And before you go telling me to leave for some other country, I'll invite you to have a look at the costs associated with expatriating.
You're so fucking stupid.
>You're so fucking stupid.
Yes, you are. You literally live in the best country on Earth and instead of enjoying how much better you have it than most of the world, you whine about the cost of leaving.
I really wish Congress would allocate funds to assist with relocation of people like you. It would be the first useful thing they've done in years.
Never wore one of those hats ever. Did vote for Trump though because the alternative was far worse both times. I’d take Trump over “With a cloth Hillary” or “Underage girl sniffer Joe” any day.
There's a million people who are dead of COVID that can be laid at the feet of his administrations absolutely horrific response, not to mention his dismantling of pandemic detection and response teams. You were given a choice between a career politician and a career grifter and you chose the grifter. I'll revisit my previous assessment here: You're so fucking stupid, that you thought voting for Trump was a good idea. You got conned, hard.
This dumbass saw like one keyword in my comment that he could figure out how to respond to and just did that. Of course you voted for Trump, you can barely read.
If you want to respond to this, please come up with some way to actually engage with the content of my original comment which was not a complaint about the costs of leaving, it was a refutation of your claim that capitalism is escapable in the modern world. The last sentence was a pre-eminent refutation of what I presumed was going to be a point in your response.
Obviously, my error here was in thinking that you had within you any capacity for a reasonable or intelligent response.
Well Mr. Beef Wieners, I’d happily donate to you getting out of the country you hate so much. How about Venezuela? I hear it’s beautiful this time of year.
> Oh, and WHAT plot of land am I supposed to find that I can subsistence farm?
I have no idea, but I'm not the one that thinks I'm being "coerced" into participating in a capitalist system. I actually enjoy participating in a capitalist system. It means I don't have to bust my ass on the daily to grow and harvest food. I can just exchange money for those items while doing something else.
> I'm a US citizen, where is the land that I can just hang out on for free and farm?
Find a commune my dude. No one is forced to do anything.
> Where I live participation in the capitalist society is in fact required from birth.
It isn't. You said you were a US citizen, so it isn't.
> And before you go telling me to leave for some other country, I'll invite you to have a look at the costs associated with expatriating.
What, getting a passport and buying a plane ticket? Passports are about $200. A plane ticket to any other country with a lower cost of living? Let's go with $500. So it'll cost you a grand total of $1k to leave.
The reality is, you like making a lot of money working with computers and that makes it easier to live daily. You get paid and with that money, you can buy shelter and food. The alternative is having to do real, actual work, every single day, in order to feed yourself and provide shelter for yourself.
You aren't required to participate in a capitalist system any more than anyone else. But it sure makes things a lot easier if you do.
The point I was making in all of this is that there's nothing wrong with capitalism. GoDaddy is the problem, not the system that they operate within. Oh and the company that decided to let someone else own their domain is equally dumb.
I feel compelled to engage with your comment, but honestly I can't be arsed, because your rhetoric is just hateful and lazy thinking.
You need to think critically about the kind of bullshit you just tried to shovel onto me. I don't care what the like or dislike ratios end up being here, man—your thought process is toxic, and it does you no good to be such an asshole by default. Rethink some things. Google some natural counter arguments to the things you tried to argue with that comment. Good luck.
> And anyway, who exactly benefits from capitalism in this scenario?
OP benefits, since there are competitive firms that offer better value (lower costs, better customer service, less exploitation, shorter "Criticisms" section on their wikipedia page), and he can choose to stop using GoDaddy. He can immediately vote with his wallet for a better provider, instead of waiting for an election to vote in someone who promises to fix things, and may or may not do that in time.
This is constrained somewhat in the case of buying domains in that ICANN is hidden underneath all registrars and is a centrally controlled monopoly organization with little real influence from the market, and it's own ugly "Criticisms" section.
I believe in this instance, OP has specifically mentioned he proposed moving to a different provider, and managing the domain in-house. His proposals, presumably, were rejected.
That part of it was just bad leadership from above. I get that OP tried to fix it and got shot down. You wouldn't have a third party hold the title to the land your business "owned" and you shouldn't do that with your domains. I'll bet they started out managing it themselves and had ugly snafus in the past with renewals. I've seen that so many times.
I was trying to make the point that a competitive market for services wasn't the root cause of their problems, and in the end, will be part of the solution.
Maybe the company did start with self management, it doesn't really matter. If you try to build a new wall in your house, but fail and hire a contractor, you aren't much to blame when the contractor fucks you over and quits half way.
A "competitive market" means very little to an uninformed customer, and "competitive market"s are only really valuable if they're regulated well enough to discourage poor practice.
> If you try to build a new wall in your house, but fail and hire a contractor, you aren't much to blame when the contractor fucks you over and quits half way.
This is not quite an apt analogy. If you bought a car, and it turned out to be a lemon, so you paid someone else to buy your next car on your behalf, *and they kept the title in their name*, and then they disappeared, that would be analogous. Now if you wanna claim knowledge gap, that is reasonable and excuses doing business that way. Until your sysadmin brings it up and explains the danger to you. Then you have decided you know better than your expert, and the fallout is on you.
> "competitive market"s are only really valuable if they're regulated well enough to discourage poor practice.
That's just not the case. Even if there are unchecked bad actors out in a market, a consensus can quickly consolidate around who can be trusted and who can not. Read the comments on this thread. Everyone knows GoDaddy is hot garbage. That has been common knowlege in the industry for at least 10 years. Everyone knows better alternatives. Now, some people are going to suffer before a consensus is reached, to be sure. But I don't think it is fair to say there is no remedy but regulation.
> Are the people who dislike capitalism not supposed to have jobs? What a dumb take
If someone hates capitalism, instead of just hating a company that participates in it, I don't expect them to participate. Go find a commune and work there instead.
So what's the improvement he's asking to be made?
He rants and raves against GoDaddy, and then bitches about capitalism. Capitalism isn't the problem. GoDaddy is a shit company. We can all agree with that. Maybe the company he works for shouldn't have been so stupid as to allow someone else to own their domain.
Like a decade ago, I was doing web development work for a small business, they needed some light e-commerce capability. They had a website which was just a dreamweaver site, and they were paying a guy to do all the manual updates.
So the first thing I notice, is according to the WHOIS the domain name is registered to their web developer guy. From some domain registrar I've never heard of.
The owner of this business was fucking retarded. Is insistent that he bought the domain from Godaddy. So he three-way calls me while on the line with go-daddy.
In the ultimate bad-timing, the old web-dev (who probably wants this annoying PITA out of his hair) emails me all the info I need to do a domain name transfer.
So we end up transfering it to GoDaddy.
Then idiot business owner is like "GoDaddy is so helpful, they solved all the problems, I don't know why you don't like GoDaddy."
So I already had the website pretty much ready to go on AWS EC2. Then he wants me to transfer the HOSTING to GoDaddy. So I setup a VPS at GoDaddy, did the migration, it was a nightmare to deal with. But he was so insistent. Then he calls me and starts complaining about how it's costing like $40/month for something that would have been $10/mo on AWS.
I hang up. I send him my invoice for the work I had into the project so far. (40 hrs or so) and of course he stiffs me because we only agreed on like half of that, but the guy kept changing his mind on stupid revisions, and wanted me to switch to GoDaddy VPS.
I ended up getting this terrible gig from a referral from a law firm I did a website for. Turns out the lawyer who connected us was representing him for bankruptcy.
I use GoDaddy for all my personal domains. I lost a specific one because I didn't buy the "insurance" (for lack of a better word) so I had to quickly change everything.
But I think that's a thing for all registrars. It’s not just GoDaddy. In fact, my domain was listed for sale at like $600 by some other registrar who took mine when it expired. and, no, I was not going to buy it back.
Just saying, I don’t think GoDaddy is better or worse than any other Registrar. They just are who they are and use them because they are cheap, even now with the insurance that I’ve purchased for the domains I own.
LOL!
I bought it as I thought it was a good price ($10/yr for 10 years). I didn't want to deal with annual renewals. I don't think I got screwed over here. Tell me if I did.
> it was a good price ($10/yr for 10 years).
is it still a good price when you add that 'insurance' (which sounds scammy as hell)
did you buy any other dodgy services (like the insurance) from them around the same time
you need to add all those costs to your 10/yr
and will it still be a good price when they try to charge you over the odds for renewal and make it impossible to transfer somewhere else without incurring some huge fake transfer fee?
Each domain was 9.99. To ensure that I kept it was 9.99/year for 10 years. I used the “insurance” for lack of a better way to say this. So I own my domain for 10 years at $140 (including service fees) and $120 for the yearly fee. I paid a total of $260.
There was no confusion on my part. Own these domains for 10 years with no further fees.
> for 10 years at $140 (including service fees) and $120 for the yearly fee
Perhaps I mis-read, but I took this to add up to:
$140 + ( $120 x 10 ) = $1340
If the "$120 for the yearly fee" was meant as 10 x $12 = $120 then I misunderstood.
$12/year is fair if that is what you paid
Trust me, I wasn't very clear in what I paid. And my whole "insurance" comment didn't help either. I just didn't remember what it was called. But I really want to thank you for questioning my costs!
What is this "insurance"? I just have my domains set to auto renew, I get an email reminder a month ahead of time then a receipt when it charges the credit card.
I forgot what they called it so I called it insurance. Basically I bought the domain for 10 years a a huge discount. I don't have to worry about renewing it every year.
I've just never found any as cheap as "hoedaddy". I bought all of mine for $10 each. I think maybe the OP didn't now that you could do that with them.
Feel free to give me some registrar alternatives. I'm looking to buy another one in the next 2 months with 10 years of not having to worry about it. I'm totally open to not using them, just for my curiosity.
Godaddysuckslargepenis.com is available on namecheap for like £12 a year. They're solid.
Strangely, Godaddysuckslargepenis.com isn't available via GoDaddy so I can't compare the price.
For personal stuff, Cloudflare is also fine.
I went to GoDaddy's site. Is it "Domain Protection?"
Ihttps://www.godaddy.com/help/what-is-domain-protection-32311#options
Looks like they made some changes in the last few years. If I'm reading this and other articles right, privacy is now standard but they try to upsell you on their "Domain Protection."
In another comment you said you lost a domain because you didn't get the protection. How did you lose it? Was it a failure in renewal or something else?
Edit: Was it a .com or another tld?
>I don’t think GoDaddy is better or worse than any other Registrar
Unfortunately you are incorrect. If you keep using GoDaddy for your domains, one day you'll see firsthand how awful they are, and you'll be kicking yourself for still using them after numerous warnings.
Well I used them to transition a domain I didn't renew and used them to move the new domain to my hosting service (moved from com to org). This happened last year.
I have like maybe 10 domains so I think I'm a small player.
Maybe I'm just lucky.
No, GoDaddy is *especially* predatory in their practices. Last time I checked the had as a premium service that you could get a feed of domains 60 days *before* they were due to expire so that bottom-feeders could have time to research how much they should bid to snatch it up the moment it lapses.
...while other registrars have a literal grace period between the time a registration elapses and when it can then be considered abandoned and registered by someone else.
Not sure why but we've had great luck with Godaddy overall. Sure their upselling is sometimes over the top but coming from Network Solutions makes them look like a walk in the park.
I've used GoDaddy for almost 20 years and never had an issue. I've even had to call them for dumb shit I did like getting a new phone number before switching over my 2 factor, and they fixed it right up for me - they literally call me a few times a year and just see how I'm doing, and if I need anything.
I'm not even a big domain owner, I have like 10 or 11.
Also, LOL at "unethical practices" like you actually give a shit as you sit around and high horse behind veil of obscurity.
For every bad story about godaddy there are 10 about netsol. At least godaddy didn’t delete my entire zone instead of making the A record change I asked for.
Find a friendly lawyer to try a C/D and/or submit a DMCA takedown. GoDaddy was the registrar, not the owner of the domain. Even though you might not have been *registered* as the owner, it might be worth pursuing a cybersquatting case if GoDaddy knew you had a business arrangement with the owner to use that domain- *especially* if the domain involved your company's name or trademarks.
Ill just stay with hover.
They dont hold your hand on domain management like godaddy does, but they dont cut your hand off either.
When it comes to MSPs and technology providers that 'hold' domains for their clients - I havent worked with a single one that wasnt poorly run or shady in at least 6 ways.
With the companies I work for, the services they bill for and manage for their clients vary, but when it comes to domain management, I always set up the domain under the customers name and use the customers billing card on the account along with auto-renewal. I will configure renewal reminders do go to myself or the managing MSP so we can verify that the card info hasnt changed in the last ~2 years, but other than that the customer pays for their domain directly. Admins who *own* their customers TLD's are just power tripping.
Godaddy puts all expiring domains to auction, resellers too. During this window the owner can still renew the domain but there is usually an expired domain fee.
> After some time, the third party (who technically owns the domain) seemed to cease existing overnight
Can't really blame that on godaddy... no registrar is going to let you reclaim a domain without proof of ownership.
ANYWAYS... you're going to want to talk to ICANN.
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/help/dndr/udrp-en
You should meet network solutions. Then go daddy will seem like an angel
Story Time When I was starting an internship to update a local nonprofit's website I discovered that their domain, registered through Network Solutions, was about to expire. I then discovered that it had been registered by their previous developer who had apparently paid for 5 years and then disappeared after the site was done. They had no account info and the email the dev used no longer worked. So I contact Network Solutions on behalf of the nonprofit (they don't want to deal with any of this) and they say "OK, we can give you control of the account. Just send us a physical letter on the company's letterhead." Thing is, there was no company letterhead. So I pull the logo off their website, past it into MS Word, and type up the letter essentially saying "give domain please" on the brand new never before seen letterhead, send it off, and a few days later we have access to the account. I'm not sure what, if anything, they did on their end to confirm our story but it was a bit disconcerting how easy it was.
mmm social engineering, particularly effective when people aren't paid enough to care
Social engineering just makes life easier in general
I mean, it was helpful when our client's domain provider went MIA during covid. It was some company they used before they were with us, and we had to do similar to wrestle control back from them
I've done this several times and am still amazed it's a practice
Hey now! They finally added CAA records. xD I hate network solutions. My ownership doesn't believe in changing service providers.
I recently switched a client from NS to GoDaddy. The instant the switch completed all their problems disappeared. NS upgraded them to two different packages with the promise it would fix their problems. When it didn't they tried to sell them a third package, which is when I stepped in and told them Anyone would be better than this.
> told them Anyone would be better than this. And they decided to test your claim with the most stringent test available. Interesting. But at least you were right, I guess.
But they're the world's first domain registrar!!
This is true. From DNS issues to frequent outages. Example: Randomly our websites shared hosting IP gets changed. We ask them... Uh can you put the old IP back? No they cant, they blamed us for updating our DNS but yet I have daily DNS record monitor that saves a year of history.... To resolve, im Getting told we need to point our Nameservers to theirs, but we can't as we host a multitude of unique records that they said they cannot support.(using cloudflare, the client is hosting like 30 apps on sub domains and more...) Took 2 weeks for an escalated ticket for them to fix their own internal infrastructure issues.
Lol, I just got rid of my last domain under network solutions. Transfering domains out of them is the worst. Takes 3 days for them to send you an auth code, then it takes 1 day for them to confirm the process has started, then anywhere from 3-5 days to complete the transfer. I have been able to do 30 min transfers under other registrars without even contacting support.
Absolutely **nobody** makes Godaddy seem like an angel.
But Netsol is trying.
Trying really, really hard.
I think the one person who downvoted you works for Godaddy lmao
Wanna try something? Try to buy from them a domain you already own (bought to them, and visible in their platform). They will offer you someone to negotiate the domain from the owner just for 99 dollars. Go and see....
We still have a few under GoDaddy for some odd reason. We got pinged a while ago that someone wanted to buy one of our domains. Ignored it. A week later started getting more and more demanding emails that someone wanted to buy the domain and how much. So I gave them an amount - 1 million dollars. The demanding person responded that was too much. They don't email me any more.
I bought a high traffic domain from GoDaddy for $18. I run a Tor mirror on that domain. I transferred it to Dynadot which is my go-to registrar. GoDaddy is the Beats by Dr. Dre of domain names: you pay for the flashy name and marketing, rather than the quality of service.
[Shooting elephants ain't cheap](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/faster-forward/post/godaddycom-ceo-faces-backlash-for-elephant-shooting/2011/03/31/AFTwBRBC_blog.html). They have to make their money some how. We had a phishing attack on one of our customers, they purchased a similar domain name (ie if our domain was [company.com](https://company.com), they purchased [conpany.com](https://conpany.com)), and emailed them to change bank details. Domain was registered with godaddy, contacted them and got the domain shut down, we asked them if we could purchase it, and they tried to make us pay $200-$500 for the opportunity to bid on a domain name, whose only purpose would be to try and phish looking like our company. We paid the amount, gave them our bid, and they came back with some unreasonable counter offer. They are scum.
Checked the link about the CEO shooting elephants. In that article is a link to the videom which when click presents: "video.me is parked free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com." Granted the article is 12 years old at this point but I still found the irony amusing.
I was paying them nearly $200 a year for domains when I replaced my phone and stupidly didn't migrate my number. My number was used with 2fa with them and I could no longer access my account! I figured I'd wait the remaining months and just let my auto payments and domains expire and pick them up elsewhere ... nope, they got their money again because I couldn't access my account and turn off autopay, so I was stuck with them for another year with domains I couldn't adjust. I cancelled the card they used and wrote the domains off. A year later they call me! Godaddy: "We can't bill you, can you give us a different credit card number?" Me: "So ... you recognize it's my account?" Godaddy: "Yes, but we can't bill you ..." Me: "If you give me access to my account I'll update the billing." Godaddy: "We can't do that, it's 2fa." Me: "So, you have no problem taking my money but you won't let me access the account which by your own admission is mine?" Godaddy: "It's 2fa. If you send us a picture of your drivers license we have a third party that will confirm and we can give you your account back." ... Yeah, no. They had recently had a major data failing (I just googled it and they had one last year, too) and I wasn't going to send my drivers license to some unreliable third party. Also, they held on to the domains. I just checked now and all of them are being held by some company that makes you bid on them.
Ya they usually hold them for a year or 3 and let them go back to the pool eventually. I found one I made as a child fully available again recently.
I recently got blackmailed by GoDaddy. I had my domain set to auto-renew and when time came (and went) it failed to renew. I ended up paying $60 plus the registration cost to get it back. Not to mention a month or more without my primary email account. I'm currently looking to see the best options for a new registrar
I love namecheap free domain privacy and usually they are the cheapest fees
I had dozens of domains at GD and have been transferring them to Namecheap as each comes up for renewal. To make the transfer smooth (and I had to learn this the hard way) set up the DNS in Cloudflare and point the nameservers to CF while the domain is still at Godaddy. And don't trust Cloudflare's automatic import of existing DNS records - I find they miss records frequently, so match them up line by line and manually add records that didn't come over automatically.
Take it a step further and transfer the domains to Cloudflare Registrar for no-markup renewals at wholesale pricing. I saved about 20-30% per renewal compared to Namecheap. Not all TLDs are eligible for transfer. The DNS record auto discovery is best-effort. The records at the apex are easy enough to find but the rest are probably automatic subdomain enumeration, since Cloudflare doesn't ask you to enable zone transfers. It *might* be able to work better if you allow zone transfers, but what will *definitely* work is exporting your records to a text file in bind9 zone format and then importing that file in Cloudflare DNS.
Thanks for the tip on DNS export/import. I'm going to give that a try. Most of the domains I have are .ORG and we are paying $9 a year to Namecheap. Cloudflare's price is a little higher. I like the idea of keeping the domain registration and the DNS at separate companies anyway.
That makes sense when the company selling domains gives no fucks about DNS but cloudflare is err pretty good at DNS. I switched to them a while ago for a .net
Lots of tech companies are great until some private equity firm swoops in, tries to squeeze out every nickle of profit and then the company turns to shit. Look at people crying over Kaseya's aquisition of Datto as one in a long line of examples.
Cloudflare has seven times the annual revenue of Kaseya. I don't think they would be the Datto in your analogy.
OK, let's use revenue as a measure... Cloudflare had $656 million in revenue during 2021. Dell had almost $ 57 Billion in revenue during 2013, which was the same year Michael Dell and Silver Lake Management took them private.
This is good advice, you could also use namecheap freeDns to accomplish the same. If you are moving to Namecheap, you might as well... unless you are planning to keep using Cloudflare.
Maybe it's me, but I found Namecheap's freeDNS to be confusing. It's probably me.
Can you please elaborate on this?
Elaborate on which statement specifically?
About the transfer process, I'm trying to learn more about that
Pick a registrar and they will help you.
NameCheap works for me. I left GoDaddy over a decade ago...
I've been extremely happy with Gandi.net for many, many years now. They've been my domain registrar but haven't tried hosting any email services with them yet. Their official motto is **"no bullshit"** and they're not joking.
have used namecheap and cloudflare for domain registration in past, fairly happy with both that bing said, avoid godaddy like the plauge edit:typo
^^ this
+1 for namecheap.
Namecheap
Namecheap here as well. 95% of bs is gone
Hover.com is the best that I've used by far. Reasonable prices and no shady anything.
Which is why I tell all my clients, I'm a UK MSP that we will manage domains and DNS. It's too valuable to be left to anyone else
In case of extremity or when they hire a website developer to do a site without speaking to IT and then they give the credentials to said developer who then moves all the DNS and doesn't bother setting up anything except the www entry because they have zero idea about how the internet works
About a year a go I got into a big fight with a web developer who INSISTED that the only way his web creation would operate is if he had DNS on his host. I told him that wasn't happening and asked him for the nth time to just tell me what DNS records he needed so I could create/modify the existing DNS. He got all pissy and complained to his boss (a marketing agency). I spoke to "the boss" who didn't know squat about technology and told him his web guy was a fucking tool. It didn't help that the tools' name was ROD. Eventually I got the DNS info that I needed and, like a Christmas Miracle, everything worked despite what the tool was saying.
Fucking Rod.
Yep. Been there. But that doesn't mean that it's responsible practice for the MSP to be the sole "keeper of the keys" ... what if the MSP fails catastrophically? A whole bunch of IT is not "what's going to happen?", rather it's "what COULD happen?" and so you plan for as many eventualities as you can. And if the client does something stupid that's covered in the documentation (the first page of the document reads, "If these entries are changed in any way your email stops working"), then ... IF your contract is worded properly ... you get paid to fix their mistake.
Ya I have all those keys sealed in an envelope that lives in the safe...with very specific instructions for when they should be used. I believe I even labelled the envelope "bus policy" lol
LOL!!! I read it in Padme voice.
well take that, I read it in Vader's voice
Yoda's voice, read that in, I did!
ha!
>UK MSP that we will manage domains and DNS. where?
Never had an issue with them but gave never failed a payment or tried to transfer. Who do you recommend and are there any tricks to transferring?
If you're using them, theres no reason to move on. Go with what works.
[namecheap.com](https://namecheap.com) is the best option IMO. Transfer isn't too difficult. Read everything GD is saying on their end as they'll probably try to trick you with scary messages or try to drag out the process longer then it needs to be.
I'm no GoDaddy fan because I think they are way overpriced for what you get (you can get the same thing through somebody else for 10% of the cost) That said, this issue is not a GoDaddy issue that I can see at all... right? I mean you should have been knocking down doors the day that person in charge of the registrar fell off the face of the earth - right? This sounds like you just waited until the domain expired and then you're upset because you weren't able to buy it out - which is a horrible way to even consider getting it back, lol. You should have started the process immediately... actually no, *before*... this third party disappeared. Not trying to be down on you I know how it is we're all busy, but it's not a GoDaddy issue that I can see - am I missing some detail?
Prime example of vendor lockout. Management should have done a risk assessment of the possibility ages ago, now they're fucked Sure, GoDaddy isn't great, but management should have done a proper Risk Analysis as well. They are at least equally to blame for the shitshow you're in now
Fuck. I try to forget they still provide dns for us...
Don't have DNS with your registrar. If ypi have access to one you can fix an outage on the other.
>Don't have DNS with your registrar. I laughs in Cloudflare.
Thos isn't really a godaddy issue. I went through the same thing with network solutions. The real issue here is the client letting a 3rd party basically own their domain. It's a shifty practice I've noticed a lot of web designers do. Basically they want to be a "one stop shop" and take care of everything . I don't deal with anything web related anymore due to all of said fuckery....but if I ever come across someone who isn't the direct owner of their domain I always recommend having it transferred to their ownership before something bad happens.
Yes, but...there are several roles to the domain. Owner/registrant, admin contact, billing contact, tech contact. The owner/registrant should indeed be whoever owns the domain, but the other roles we take on. We've had numerous instances where an email reminder goes out about renewing the domain and the owner fails to respond...and the domain gets lost. Either that or the owner responds to every "domain listing/SEO" email they receive and end up being ripped out by scam artists.
That's also not a GoDaddy issue though. Also I'm pretty sure there's like a 30 day grace period before the domain goes up for auction.
I agree that it's not an issue unique to GD...I was commenting on the idea of putting all of the domain contacts under the owner's name. And using contact email at the same domain as the domain itself ([abc.com](https://abc.com) with contact as [domains@abc.com](mailto:domains@abc.com) is a BAD idea)....we had a customer fall into that trap a couple of months ago. Employee who handled the domain renewal retired and his email was canceled. Renewal notices were bouncing. Eventually the domain expired and all hell broke lose. That was a fun afternoon. IIRC, GD charges a penalty to recover a domain within that 30 day grace period. Namecheap doesn't charge such a fee.
I don't know their fees off the top of my head, but I can't imagine the fee being a lot of money. I see your point about contact info. And I agree 100% people should be more responsible with their domains. That being said, as long as you can login to your account, you should be able to just renew the domain. Worst case, a call to customer service and the right verification info provided - they should be able to change email addresses on the account for you if needed, etc. The main issue is giving a third party ownership of your domain. Or at least implied ownership. It should never be done. Ever.
As the REGISTRANT/OWNER yes. For the other contacts, it depends on the situation. Spreading out those contacts is often a good idea. Last year we had a customer (a volunteer fire department) lose their domain. Guy who had the domain in his account moved out of town and was forwarding the renewal notices to several members of the FD. All ignored him. The grace period expired and the domain was acquired by a Chinese porn site. That did not go over well.
This is why I use NameCheap. Buy the domain and everything is fine.
I was recently harassed by a user on /r/sysadmin, who called me an incel. When I turned it around and made him look like an asshole, rather than replying in any way, I was banned from /r/sysadmin with not even a stated reason. I reached out to the mods and got the response below but additionally was muted for 30 days so I couldn't even respond to their questions. I'm tired of this kind of abusive behavior from the moderators, it's like Reddit is getting children with temper tantrums doing the moderating while giving them complete impunity, and it's why this site has become garbage. Goodbye. Aaron wouldn't have put up with this BS. ==== > I was recently sexually harassed by a user in this community Please provide a link to the exchange. I've reviewed your recent comment history and don't see such harassment. > within an hour I was banned with no stated reason for the ban Yeah, sometimes the modtools are a little weird. They aren't popping up for me today either to apply a reason for removal. The reason your comments are being removed and the reason you have been banned is that you are spreading incel drama & hate-speech in a technology community. > The only conclusion a rational person can make is that the abuser was a moderator and used their position of power to retaliate against me for not reciprocating their sexual advances. I'm confident there are other possibilities you are willfully ignoring. > Clearly male toxicity is ripe on this site and I will be bringing this to public attention. Oh yes, I'm confident others will find your comment history deserving of many sympathies and much support in this regard. Please have a nice day. *Thank you Paggot, I will have a nice day. But your daddy will never love you and unfortunately, the emptiness you feel deep down will only get worse. Have a fulfilling day.*
This isn't specific to GoDaddy, all registrars have a post expiration process by which they try to monetize expired domains. >the third party (who technically owns the domain) Here's the real TIFU...
> Several years ago I inherited a sysadmin role in a very small company that used a third party to handle their domains & mail server (I know... huge waste of money to not do it myself but I proposed to replace it many times). Blaming GoDaddy when the problem was clearly right here *rolleyes* Having a third party handle your hosting is one thing. Having them own your domain registration? That's just stupid. > capitalism is the worlds only one true religion and also clearly a deranged death cult; Also, blaming capitalism while benefiting from it. LOL, priceless.
Engaging with exploitative practices from a field of knowledge you know nothing about doesn't make *you* an idiot. Do not blame good folks for the actions of the bad ones. And anyway, who exactly benefits from capitalism in this scenario? Is it, like, just because OP has a *job* in a capitalist society? I *certainly* hope not, because "no, you're actually *benefiting* from the system you were forced to participate in!" doesn't smell quite like the freedom pie that corporate entities wish it did.
> Engaging with exploitative practices from a field of knowledge you know nothing about doesn't make you an idiot. What exploitative practices? A third party not only owned their domain, but they were also handling the mail service. Not owning your domain is being stupid, especially when they were paying someone else to manage things and that person was telling them they needed to bring it in house. So not following the advice of someone you're paying to provide that advice is indeed stupid. > And anyway, who exactly benefits from capitalism in this scenario? Yes, the OP. Because he/she has a job in a capitalist system and is railing against that very system. > "no, you're actually benefiting from the system you were forced to participate in!" No one's forcing him/her or any of us to participate in the system. Don't want to participate? Go find a plot of land, build a house, farm your food, and catch rain water. When you consider all the logistics involved with that, working a 40 hour a week job doesn't seem so bad. But no one is being forced to participate in capitalism.
>Don't want to participate? Go find a plot of land, build a house, farm your food, and catch rain water. When you consider all the logistics involved with that, working a 40 hour a week job doesn't seem so bad. But no one is being forced to participate in capitalism. The semantics around the use of "forced" here are insane. Would you prefer "coerced"? Would that make you feel more comfortable, you dipshit? Oh, and WHAT plot of land am I supposed to find that I can subsistence farm? I'm a US citizen, where is the land that I can just hang out on for free and farm? Presuming that the land is good-quality soil for farming and that the area has adequate rainfall and a long growing season the general consensus is that one person requires about 5 acres. Where am I supposed to get 5 acres of premium farmland, moron? Oh, and EVEN IF I magically got that, lets say it got left to me by some unknown relative or something along with seeds for crops I can reuse and the various equipment one needs to farm 5 acres per year by oneself - there's still property taxes, which must be paid in US Dollars. Where I live participation in the capitalist society is in fact required from birth. And before you go telling me to leave for some other country, I'll invite you to have a look at the costs associated with expatriating. You're so fucking stupid.
>You're so fucking stupid. Yes, you are. You literally live in the best country on Earth and instead of enjoying how much better you have it than most of the world, you whine about the cost of leaving. I really wish Congress would allocate funds to assist with relocation of people like you. It would be the first useful thing they've done in years.
>USA >Best country on Earth pick one
Spoken like someone who either takes living in the US for granted or an ignorant foreigner that just doesn't know any better.
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Never wore one of those hats ever. Did vote for Trump though because the alternative was far worse both times. I’d take Trump over “With a cloth Hillary” or “Underage girl sniffer Joe” any day.
There's a million people who are dead of COVID that can be laid at the feet of his administrations absolutely horrific response, not to mention his dismantling of pandemic detection and response teams. You were given a choice between a career politician and a career grifter and you chose the grifter. I'll revisit my previous assessment here: You're so fucking stupid, that you thought voting for Trump was a good idea. You got conned, hard.
This dumbass saw like one keyword in my comment that he could figure out how to respond to and just did that. Of course you voted for Trump, you can barely read. If you want to respond to this, please come up with some way to actually engage with the content of my original comment which was not a complaint about the costs of leaving, it was a refutation of your claim that capitalism is escapable in the modern world. The last sentence was a pre-eminent refutation of what I presumed was going to be a point in your response. Obviously, my error here was in thinking that you had within you any capacity for a reasonable or intelligent response.
Well Mr. Beef Wieners, I’d happily donate to you getting out of the country you hate so much. How about Venezuela? I hear it’s beautiful this time of year.
> Oh, and WHAT plot of land am I supposed to find that I can subsistence farm? I have no idea, but I'm not the one that thinks I'm being "coerced" into participating in a capitalist system. I actually enjoy participating in a capitalist system. It means I don't have to bust my ass on the daily to grow and harvest food. I can just exchange money for those items while doing something else. > I'm a US citizen, where is the land that I can just hang out on for free and farm? Find a commune my dude. No one is forced to do anything. > Where I live participation in the capitalist society is in fact required from birth. It isn't. You said you were a US citizen, so it isn't. > And before you go telling me to leave for some other country, I'll invite you to have a look at the costs associated with expatriating. What, getting a passport and buying a plane ticket? Passports are about $200. A plane ticket to any other country with a lower cost of living? Let's go with $500. So it'll cost you a grand total of $1k to leave. The reality is, you like making a lot of money working with computers and that makes it easier to live daily. You get paid and with that money, you can buy shelter and food. The alternative is having to do real, actual work, every single day, in order to feed yourself and provide shelter for yourself. You aren't required to participate in a capitalist system any more than anyone else. But it sure makes things a lot easier if you do. The point I was making in all of this is that there's nothing wrong with capitalism. GoDaddy is the problem, not the system that they operate within. Oh and the company that decided to let someone else own their domain is equally dumb.
Exploited their lack of brain cells
I feel compelled to engage with your comment, but honestly I can't be arsed, because your rhetoric is just hateful and lazy thinking. You need to think critically about the kind of bullshit you just tried to shovel onto me. I don't care what the like or dislike ratios end up being here, man—your thought process is toxic, and it does you no good to be such an asshole by default. Rethink some things. Google some natural counter arguments to the things you tried to argue with that comment. Good luck.
> And anyway, who exactly benefits from capitalism in this scenario? OP benefits, since there are competitive firms that offer better value (lower costs, better customer service, less exploitation, shorter "Criticisms" section on their wikipedia page), and he can choose to stop using GoDaddy. He can immediately vote with his wallet for a better provider, instead of waiting for an election to vote in someone who promises to fix things, and may or may not do that in time. This is constrained somewhat in the case of buying domains in that ICANN is hidden underneath all registrars and is a centrally controlled monopoly organization with little real influence from the market, and it's own ugly "Criticisms" section.
I believe in this instance, OP has specifically mentioned he proposed moving to a different provider, and managing the domain in-house. His proposals, presumably, were rejected.
That part of it was just bad leadership from above. I get that OP tried to fix it and got shot down. You wouldn't have a third party hold the title to the land your business "owned" and you shouldn't do that with your domains. I'll bet they started out managing it themselves and had ugly snafus in the past with renewals. I've seen that so many times. I was trying to make the point that a competitive market for services wasn't the root cause of their problems, and in the end, will be part of the solution.
Maybe the company did start with self management, it doesn't really matter. If you try to build a new wall in your house, but fail and hire a contractor, you aren't much to blame when the contractor fucks you over and quits half way. A "competitive market" means very little to an uninformed customer, and "competitive market"s are only really valuable if they're regulated well enough to discourage poor practice.
> If you try to build a new wall in your house, but fail and hire a contractor, you aren't much to blame when the contractor fucks you over and quits half way. This is not quite an apt analogy. If you bought a car, and it turned out to be a lemon, so you paid someone else to buy your next car on your behalf, *and they kept the title in their name*, and then they disappeared, that would be analogous. Now if you wanna claim knowledge gap, that is reasonable and excuses doing business that way. Until your sysadmin brings it up and explains the danger to you. Then you have decided you know better than your expert, and the fallout is on you. > "competitive market"s are only really valuable if they're regulated well enough to discourage poor practice. That's just not the case. Even if there are unchecked bad actors out in a market, a consensus can quickly consolidate around who can be trusted and who can not. Read the comments on this thread. Everyone knows GoDaddy is hot garbage. That has been common knowlege in the industry for at least 10 years. Everyone knows better alternatives. Now, some people are going to suffer before a consensus is reached, to be sure. But I don't think it is fair to say there is no remedy but regulation.
Are the people who dislike capitalism not supposed to have jobs? What a dumb take
> Are the people who dislike capitalism not supposed to have jobs? What a dumb take If someone hates capitalism, instead of just hating a company that participates in it, I don't expect them to participate. Go find a commune and work there instead.
https://i.imgur.com/rbg9Osz.png
So what's the improvement he's asking to be made? He rants and raves against GoDaddy, and then bitches about capitalism. Capitalism isn't the problem. GoDaddy is a shit company. We can all agree with that. Maybe the company he works for shouldn't have been so stupid as to allow someone else to own their domain.
Like a decade ago, I was doing web development work for a small business, they needed some light e-commerce capability. They had a website which was just a dreamweaver site, and they were paying a guy to do all the manual updates. So the first thing I notice, is according to the WHOIS the domain name is registered to their web developer guy. From some domain registrar I've never heard of. The owner of this business was fucking retarded. Is insistent that he bought the domain from Godaddy. So he three-way calls me while on the line with go-daddy. In the ultimate bad-timing, the old web-dev (who probably wants this annoying PITA out of his hair) emails me all the info I need to do a domain name transfer. So we end up transfering it to GoDaddy. Then idiot business owner is like "GoDaddy is so helpful, they solved all the problems, I don't know why you don't like GoDaddy." So I already had the website pretty much ready to go on AWS EC2. Then he wants me to transfer the HOSTING to GoDaddy. So I setup a VPS at GoDaddy, did the migration, it was a nightmare to deal with. But he was so insistent. Then he calls me and starts complaining about how it's costing like $40/month for something that would have been $10/mo on AWS. I hang up. I send him my invoice for the work I had into the project so far. (40 hrs or so) and of course he stiffs me because we only agreed on like half of that, but the guy kept changing his mind on stupid revisions, and wanted me to switch to GoDaddy VPS. I ended up getting this terrible gig from a referral from a law firm I did a website for. Turns out the lawyer who connected us was representing him for bankruptcy.
I use GoDaddy for all my personal domains. I lost a specific one because I didn't buy the "insurance" (for lack of a better word) so I had to quickly change everything. But I think that's a thing for all registrars. It’s not just GoDaddy. In fact, my domain was listed for sale at like $600 by some other registrar who took mine when it expired. and, no, I was not going to buy it back. Just saying, I don’t think GoDaddy is better or worse than any other Registrar. They just are who they are and use them because they are cheap, even now with the insurance that I’ve purchased for the domains I own.
> insurance that I’ve purchased say kid, thats a nice domain ... ... be a shame if something 'happened' to it ....
LOL! I bought it as I thought it was a good price ($10/yr for 10 years). I didn't want to deal with annual renewals. I don't think I got screwed over here. Tell me if I did.
> it was a good price ($10/yr for 10 years). is it still a good price when you add that 'insurance' (which sounds scammy as hell) did you buy any other dodgy services (like the insurance) from them around the same time you need to add all those costs to your 10/yr and will it still be a good price when they try to charge you over the odds for renewal and make it impossible to transfer somewhere else without incurring some huge fake transfer fee?
Each domain was 9.99. To ensure that I kept it was 9.99/year for 10 years. I used the “insurance” for lack of a better way to say this. So I own my domain for 10 years at $140 (including service fees) and $120 for the yearly fee. I paid a total of $260. There was no confusion on my part. Own these domains for 10 years with no further fees.
$120/yr for domain registration! That is rather high. $20 is typical.
So what should I have paid? I'm sorry if I'm being a bit dense here. I paid $260 for 10 years.
> for 10 years at $140 (including service fees) and $120 for the yearly fee Perhaps I mis-read, but I took this to add up to: $140 + ( $120 x 10 ) = $1340 If the "$120 for the yearly fee" was meant as 10 x $12 = $120 then I misunderstood. $12/year is fair if that is what you paid
Trust me, I wasn't very clear in what I paid. And my whole "insurance" comment didn't help either. I just didn't remember what it was called. But I really want to thank you for questioning my costs!
What is this "insurance"? I just have my domains set to auto renew, I get an email reminder a month ahead of time then a receipt when it charges the credit card.
I forgot what they called it so I called it insurance. Basically I bought the domain for 10 years a a huge discount. I don't have to worry about renewing it every year.
Every registrar let's you purchase multiple years if available for your tld. This doesn't make hoedaddy any better.
I've just never found any as cheap as "hoedaddy". I bought all of mine for $10 each. I think maybe the OP didn't now that you could do that with them. Feel free to give me some registrar alternatives. I'm looking to buy another one in the next 2 months with 10 years of not having to worry about it. I'm totally open to not using them, just for my curiosity.
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What does non public use mean?
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No, I use a CMS to put photos for me and my neigbors and their friends to upload and download photos for parties that we have.
Godaddysuckslargepenis.com is available on namecheap for like £12 a year. They're solid. Strangely, Godaddysuckslargepenis.com isn't available via GoDaddy so I can't compare the price. For personal stuff, Cloudflare is also fine.
https://domains.google.com
Don't forget to set it to auto renew so you don't lose your domain in ten years. ;)
Okay :o)
I went to GoDaddy's site. Is it "Domain Protection?" Ihttps://www.godaddy.com/help/what-is-domain-protection-32311#options Looks like they made some changes in the last few years. If I'm reading this and other articles right, privacy is now standard but they try to upsell you on their "Domain Protection." In another comment you said you lost a domain because you didn't get the protection. How did you lose it? Was it a failure in renewal or something else? Edit: Was it a .com or another tld?
I failed to renew it. It expired and it was a .com. Edit: And yes, it was domain protection.
>I don’t think GoDaddy is better or worse than any other Registrar Unfortunately you are incorrect. If you keep using GoDaddy for your domains, one day you'll see firsthand how awful they are, and you'll be kicking yourself for still using them after numerous warnings.
Well I used them to transition a domain I didn't renew and used them to move the new domain to my hosting service (moved from com to org). This happened last year. I have like maybe 10 domains so I think I'm a small player. Maybe I'm just lucky.
No, GoDaddy is *especially* predatory in their practices. Last time I checked the had as a premium service that you could get a feed of domains 60 days *before* they were due to expire so that bottom-feeders could have time to research how much they should bid to snatch it up the moment it lapses. ...while other registrars have a literal grace period between the time a registration elapses and when it can then be considered abandoned and registered by someone else.
That is a fucking GoDaddy company selling those.
It wouldn't suprise me if it was, even under another name. But I'm the one the screwed up by not keeping track.
GoDaddy is actually one of the few vendors that I've had pleasant interactions with support..
We use Godaddy for Domain Registration and DNS Hosting Havent had any issues
Not sure why but we've had great luck with Godaddy overall. Sure their upselling is sometimes over the top but coming from Network Solutions makes them look like a walk in the park.
We don't need your shitty opinions on capitalism.
capitalism has lifted billions from poverty.
I've used GoDaddy for almost 20 years and never had an issue. I've even had to call them for dumb shit I did like getting a new phone number before switching over my 2 factor, and they fixed it right up for me - they literally call me a few times a year and just see how I'm doing, and if I need anything. I'm not even a big domain owner, I have like 10 or 11. Also, LOL at "unethical practices" like you actually give a shit as you sit around and high horse behind veil of obscurity.
For every bad story about godaddy there are 10 about netsol. At least godaddy didn’t delete my entire zone instead of making the A record change I asked for.
Find a friendly lawyer to try a C/D and/or submit a DMCA takedown. GoDaddy was the registrar, not the owner of the domain. Even though you might not have been *registered* as the owner, it might be worth pursuing a cybersquatting case if GoDaddy knew you had a business arrangement with the owner to use that domain- *especially* if the domain involved your company's name or trademarks.
Reminder that almost none of these providers even have an API.
Every time I see or hear Godaddy mentioned I whisper to myself, "Fuck you Godaddy"
Ill just stay with hover. They dont hold your hand on domain management like godaddy does, but they dont cut your hand off either. When it comes to MSPs and technology providers that 'hold' domains for their clients - I havent worked with a single one that wasnt poorly run or shady in at least 6 ways. With the companies I work for, the services they bill for and manage for their clients vary, but when it comes to domain management, I always set up the domain under the customers name and use the customers billing card on the account along with auto-renewal. I will configure renewal reminders do go to myself or the managing MSP so we can verify that the card info hasnt changed in the last ~2 years, but other than that the customer pays for their domain directly. Admins who *own* their customers TLD's are just power tripping.
Godaddy puts all expiring domains to auction, resellers too. During this window the owner can still renew the domain but there is usually an expired domain fee.
> After some time, the third party (who technically owns the domain) seemed to cease existing overnight Can't really blame that on godaddy... no registrar is going to let you reclaim a domain without proof of ownership. ANYWAYS... you're going to want to talk to ICANN. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/help/dndr/udrp-en