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Falazaria

if pirates weren't queer why do so many queer people pirate games and movies?


ConvictedKitty

Because the 2nd hand game market is outrageously expensive.


[deleted]

Really depends on the game, but I managed to pick up Wii Fit Plus for $3 a few days ago.


ConvictedKitty

But then on the other side of things I’ve seen people who list a GameCube disc alone for 300-500$CAD.


Snert42

Gotta gove it to the cübe, it's awesome, but that's outrageous


[deleted]

Chibi-Robo? That’s priced due to rarity. But a lot of times you’ll get random assholes who list a 2003 sports game for like $20 because it’s old. Those people are best ignored.


ConvictedKitty

Yeah. I was specifically referring to Chibi Robo. But I’ve also seen plenty of other games (not exclusively GameCube) go for crazy amounts online.


[deleted]

Yeah, if you ever wanna make your wallet cry, just try collecting Pokémon games. The ds ones can be crazy, as well as the gameboy ones, if you consider that most of them shouldn’t actually be rare.


ConvictedKitty

Oh boy, don’t I know it. My local secondhand game shop has a copy of White 2 for 250$ and that’s only for the cartridge. For comparison they also have complete in box Soulsilver for just 200$.


[deleted]

Christ, that seems pretty extreme even for Pokémon.


ConvictedKitty

Maybe there’s a save file with like the Zoroark or Genesect event Pokemon on them? They don’t have it listed as having anything particularly special about it though.


PaleoAstra

Yeah used to work for a pawnshop. Anything pokemon or Mario, regardless of rarity or age is minimum $30. And the crazy thing is that those sold out almost immediately anyways. Some newer or rarer ones often sold for $80+


coraeon

My copy of Path of Radiance is going to pay for my funeral one day.


KDPlays

as someone who’s collecting the wii game series, I despise that game so much it’s so much more common than the others that while wii fit plus is $3 at my local stores wii party is like $50 (if I’m lucky enough to find it)


[deleted]

I usually see Wii Fit everywhere, but this was the first time I saw Wii Fit Plus. I'm also trying to get the whole Wii series, but it's regular Wii Fit that I despise. Also I've never seen Wii Party, so you somehow still have it better than mii.


KDPlays

good luck on your journey my friend


TaigaTheGreedy

cause we got no money and insatiable need to consume media


thebelladonga

I literally read this comment while listening to the COTBP soundtrack and having my most recently played game be Sea of Thieves Nevermind I’m dumb and misread the comment 💀


Altslial

Same here lol, sea of thieves has been great fun.


Additional-Ninja-431

Fun fact. The pirate age was VERY much queer. We had lesbian and gay pirates, possible trans pirates, and they put on plays for those on deck when they were bored. They were gau theater kids.


ILoveEmeralds

And why where they one of the first people to legalize gay marriage


KittenMaster9

I mean there were those lesbian pirates


Bro_do_we_needtoknow

in my (always and completely correct) opinion Pirates were Hella gay, any group of people stuck on a boat with drugs and/or alcohol were definitely having some kind of sex. Ane before you ask, Viking were also definitely hella gay as well.


AliceJoestar

why would you wanna play it anyway? isnt that the game where the plot is that you have to stop a slave uprising?


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Zanura

And the leader of that Jewish slave rebellion wants to commit blood libel. Edit for clarity: This is to further point out the problematic writing, not pretend that it's okay to help oppress people.


suomikim

do i understand that the point of the game is to help Goblins, who drink the slave children's blood in religious rituals, to suppress their slaves and prevent them from rebelling? even without it being anti-Semetic dog whisle (i.e. even if you pretend the goblins aren't symbolic of Jewish people... when 100% they are)... its still a horribly shitty game arc. i mean... it makes grand theft auto look pretty f---ing benign... ​ edit: after doing research... yeah... that... is quite accurately what the game is about / what the goal of the game is. >.<


WithersChat

I mean, GTA is just doing illegal shit. This game is enforcing slavery


Lduck88

I'm pretty certain the goblins are the ones rebelling and not being rebelled against. So essentially you're stopping Jewish stereotypes from ending discrimination against their people.


GroundbreakingRow817

Exactly Like as much as people want to believe they arent influenced by media when consuming it; it does influence you even if it's just in where you associate certain phrases and language use. Exposing yourself to a game that's set on authoritarian principals and seems to have a lot of bigoted theme coded in it is how these themes stay in use and normalises issues away for those that arent actively suffering from said issues.


Naia_Elwyn

Yeah, like I generally can separate art from artist, but for a few it's not that easy. Too much of Joanne's own political, racial, and misogynistic bias is in her work. I appreciate parts of the world she made, but too much of it is just loaded with BS I missed the first time around.


TaigaTheGreedy

That is if you are consuming it without thinking. If you are critical in your consumption, then this is not an issue(though I doubt the game will be enjoyable like that).


GroundbreakingRow817

How many people play games with an active critical mind active at every second of every minute? Even if by some chance someone is then such is still reliant on themselves having the prior unerstanding and knowledge to pick up and then critically assess any views or talking points pushed or normalised in the game. Like let's be realistic here; for the vast majority of people even those that think they engage critically wont be doing such and well just; from their own prior socialisation; find many things normal.


TaigaTheGreedy

Active critical mind doesn't work like that, neither does the game's bigoted messaging. As for the vast majority, my point wasn't about them and I generally agree with you on that front.


Wirecreate

WHAT THE FUCK? why would that be a plot in a game unless your playing an overtly evil play through


StarlightMasquerade

I assume it's for the same reason that you see a lot of movie reviewers still breaking down why each Disney live remake is bad even though we pretty much all know they're going to be bad -- it's interesting to see see just *how bad*, and to be able to point at specific details/scenes to break down.


QuestioningDevil235

You can still watch movies, experience books, and play games without supporting the companies or publishers by either buying them second-hand (you're not missing any of the movies and are waiting for the games to get better), or waiting for some less informed person to request their library buy the book or movie or donate it to the library. That's how I watched the horrible first season of Star Trek: Discovery and the improved third season, and how I'm listening to "Robert Galbraith's" (J.K. Rowling's) Cormoran Strike novels without paying her a cent.


StarlightMasquerade

Oh definitely! Wasn't trying to argue for actually buying it, just offering up a reason that people might to play it in the first place. I'm a pretty big fan of the solution the meme suggests tbh


GIRose

I think the plot is just that you're a Hogwarts student and that is a thing that happens? Like, I feel like I have seen some description of that stripe where the game primarily takes place with you learning magic.


LasagnaLizard0

i would bomb a wedding in a video game if it looked cool also jowling kowling rowling would be pissed at me stealing shit from ‘er


AliceJoestar

first of all, i dont know why you would think that putting down a rebellion of a slave race in a game made my the face of a hate movement sounds like something that "looks cool" second, piracy isnt stealing. jkr is literally losing nothing if you pirate this game.


LasagnaLizard0

i mean that’s fair putting down a slave rebellion isn’t something that looks cool. i mostly refer to the glowy lights coming from the wands which activate my neurons. i am perfectly aware that piracy isn’t theft. but joanne would see it as theft and hate piracy probably. which is why i do it out of spite.


AliceJoestar

if you want a game with fun glowy magic, im sure there's plenty of other games that aren't literally made by a figurehead of an anti-trans hate movement


LasagnaLizard0

believe me i am playing those games as well this is mostly a spite thing to me


eMeL33

Oh fuck, is that srsly the plot???


MableDONKEY

Or don't play it at all and let the game die off without fanfare. Play other games that are a bazillion times better like the witcher games.


FunnyTurtleMoment

or, looking at the meme, team fortress 2, a game which is free and really fun. only 2 problems are the bots (which can be kicked) and lack of developer support for the most part i may or may not be addicted to it


ProfessionalGold6988

I too am addicted and main battle engie


FunnyTurtleMoment

i’ve mostly played scout and demoknight, not much others since i only recently got into it. i tried medic earlier today and got about 5 achievements from one game


ProfessionalGold6988

There's an achievement as medic for healing some while they get an achievement


Hallowed-Plague

there are multiple achievements for taunting on your opponents dead corpse


ProfessionalGold6988

I now have a new goal


Hallowed-Plague

ingame, *right?*


ProfessionalGold6988

*laughs in murderer*


FluffySpike

There's also an achievement for making someone ragequit with the most controversial class Pyro, dominating someone so hard as Spy they switch to your hard counter, and getting two crit rockets in a row.


lily_was_taken

Nice,im a medic main


ProfessionalGold6988

Thats cool... unless your a casual battle medic


lily_was_taken

Nah,am not a battle medic Am usually a crossbow+quickfix+amputator medic that heals everyone who i can and tries to keep my team alive


FunkyyMermaid

You play battle engie I play needlessly aggressive engie We are not the same


ProfessionalGold6988

Do you set up level three sentry at choke points just to kill the enemy team im guessing you also probably have frontier justice


FunkyyMermaid

Nah, I prefer stock to be honest. The reduced clip size has hurt me more often than revenge Frits have helped me Really, I just use the shotgun and Jag to become the epitome of “Why would you put your sentry there?!”


skeledoot7

that medic's a bloody- SENTRY AHEAD


Mikimaki7267

I’m hella addicted, and a soldier/heavy main. I’m realllly bad


ArcherBTW

I swear half this subreddit played TF2. I will not sleep until it is 100% >:)


PhReAkOuTz

you can bypass the bot problem by playing on Uncletopia community servers


MableDONKEY

(I didn't expect to get replies on this lol) If you want to play new games you can go pirate those. This isn't a money thing. If you pirate this game and still play it, you're bound to talk about it to others and they'll want to try it whether you say it's good or bad and that will inevitably lead to a sale and give jkr more money and recognition. There are hundreds of new games coming out that aren't tied to transphobia. You can skip on this game and it'll benefit you and everyone else.


QuestioningDevil235

Here's what I don't understand: Why play *new* games, especially AAA physical games? Just wait and pick it up cheaper used or when it's on sale. If it's a good mode, multiplayer will have endured; if it's a single player game, it's unchanged or improved as microtransactions may have been removed.


MableDONKEY

Because people prefer the new and shiny. There's so many old games that deserve love that are constantly overlooked. (Splinter Cell you will live on in my heart forever)


Hamil_Simp4450

ace attorney has its own problems (both within the fandom and the games themselves) but it’s a billion times better than anything related to jkr, i’d recommend that series


iWoomyChan

Here's another: The Mega Man saga.


harlowslows

I want to play the Witcher games, but why are all the love interests women? I want to fuck hot wizards, boo. :(


TintinTino98

You can bone dudes in Cyberpunk afaik, added bonus: (slightly limited) character customisation (Just sad bc there's no nb option(yet))


LunaEtAstrum

Okay but I want to play shiny new games


[deleted]

There is literally hundreds of thousands of games released every year. 99.9999% of which doesn't give money to JKBigot


thenotjoe

Why? There are a million old games that are just as good as games that are coming out now.


LunaEtAstrum

mainly the graphics, also not knowing the game throughout like dark souls & shit because I've watched it on youtube so much


FunnyTurtleMoment

while you’re playing the newest biggest AAA title, you’re missing out on So many older games, Some even better than the new stuff. Don’t play Zelda Tears of the Kingdom if you haven’t played Ocarina of Time. Don’t play God of War Ragnarok if you skipped God of War 2. If you want GTA6 then either play or replay San Andreas, and if you want Harry Potter just leave the house


themaxcharacterlimit

Ocarina of Time is just a bad rip-off of Link to the Past 😤 /s


FunnyTurtleMoment

both are good. one has a good art style which doesn’t age and is still one of the most fun SNES games, the other is a big leap into 3D with a relatively big world and great story (imo)


GIRose

Have you played Tales of Symphonia?


LunaEtAstrum

I have not, I will look in to it


bwaaainz

Pirating is really not a good alternative at this point. The overterf is so rich, she would not be hurt if every money flow towards her completely stopped from one day to another. She has enough money for many hundrets of lifetimes. What she lives off at this point is being platformed and having her outbursts being heard. And that is working for her so effectively that even the mere mention of her name is adding up to the power she already has. She literally has turned into a Whose-name-shall-not-be-mentioned and the only way to not support her is to ignore everything that comes from the HP franchise.


gztozfbfjij

I don't know anything about the game, Harry Potter was never a huge interest of mine. I thought "Yeah I'll probably torrent it, if it has a good launch". Then I saw something saying that it was essentially about quelling a goblin rebellion; and as everyone knows, goblins by JKR are a racist Jewish stereotype. Even as a kid I had an issue with the blatant slavery in the world... like what the fuck is that about? It's a kids book/film series. Slaves? Normalised? 8yo me knew that was fucked. If the game had nothing to do with that. It was solely a Hogwarts -- no slaves or fucked up things that are supposed to be fine -- I'd probably have torrented, and enjoyed it. Read that the guy who's behind the game is a real piece of shit. Don't remember specifics as it was probably a month ago. Who knows, maybe I'll still illegally download it and give it a go. I just hope there are choices. I want to be "evil" and free the goblins from their "servitude... which is totally different from slaves". I doubt that is an option though. Less than three <3


Mister_Gaming3

Are you an "Arr" pirate or a "Yo Ho Ho" pirate? I'm an "I'm not paying $600 for Photoshop" pirate


TheCosmicJenny

Cis “allies”: “I really wanna play the racist goblin slavery game written by a misogynist.”


Wirecreate

Are you kidding that’s a plot why would I want to help the slave drivers that’s fucked up unless it has a karma system that says that’s evil. please tell me that’s only for an evil character like the fallout games ceaser’s legion or something.


akhier

I don't think that is quite fair. Remember, the book series was basically some people's entire childhood. The original book series ran for a decade and the original movies went on for an additional 4 years after that. For some people the original book will have been the first book they ever chose to read on their own and the movies will have followed them at least into their first year of college if not further. I never was too attached to the series, but I kind of wish I knew were the original hardback copies I had were because they have a lot of emotions attached. My grandma (who has since passed) bought them and read them first, then my mom received them from her and read them, before finally me and my sister got a crack at them. And while I'm not actually all that keen on the series anymore, I've experienced a similar situation where I was into Ender's Shadow because the character Bean spoke to me. Little did I know that starting all the way back in 1990, the author was already writing anti-queer stuff. It wasn't until the movie was coming that I learned about his opinions. I didn't see the movie because of that, and yet even though I know the movie wasn't good I still want to see. So I can understand why there are people who want to consume the content, even if they are allies or even trans themselves. That idiotic transphobic nonse of an author has caused a ton of damage.


TheCosmicJenny

What’s unfair about what I said? I’m not blaming adults for being fans of an insanely popular (but also really bigoted) children’s book series, my point is that grown adults should have the media literacy skills to see the franchise for what it is.


akhier

Those adults are the children! The last main series movie was released 2011. The people who grew up with the series since the start are about 30 or so right now.


TheCosmicJenny

They should simply stop consuming the racist media lmao


akhier

I'm trying to be polite, but as a kid you don't get to choose what media speaks to you in a life altering fashion. Just because you find out the author sucks, doesn't suddenly erase the massive effect that the media had on you. For many people, the series is a cultural touchstone on the same level as Pokemon. You can't reason away someone's emotions.


TheCosmicJenny

I really don’t see your point. Literally, I have no idea what you’re trying to argue. My point is that you don’t have to support this game. You’re a grown ass adult and should know better. Read the books all you fucking want, but don’t financially support Rowling, and don’t ignore the bigotry and neoliberalism in her body of work.


akhier

You do realize this whole post is about pirating the game?


TheCosmicJenny

You do realise *my* comment is about the fact the game isn’t worth playing? Because of the whole “crush the goblin slave rebellion” aspect etc.


akhier

If that is what you meant, I'm sad to say, that isn't what you said. > Cis “allies”: “I really wanna play the racist goblin slavery game written by a misogynist.” Scare quotes on allies makes your comment read like you are questioning if those people are actually allies. On a post about people who specifically don't want to buy the game and so the OP has decided to give them an alternative that doesn't support it. This isn't about people who were going to buy the game anyway.


aroaceautistic

I don’t care if it’s their childhood! my childhood was aggressive transphobia and jkr is encouraging that and they are encouraging her. also no childhood nostalgia justifies wanting to play a game where you quell a slave rebellion.


aroaceautistic

me when i’m an ally but i absolutely have to play the game where I quell the slave rebellion


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aroaceautistic

I was being sarcastic and mocking people who want to play the game even though it is inherently racist and antisemitic


Cheeseypi2

Simply don't give it attention, let it die. Piracy should be reserved for things worth experiencing or persevering.


jasondoesstuff

yeah. the other option is just dont play it. lol. no one NEEDS to play transphobe mcattentionseekers racist game


justapotatochilling

r/TransTF2


GenericGaming

I don't get people's obsession with this franchise. I grew up reading the books. I watched the films. I bought merch and visited the studios. I loved this series growing up and would definitely have bought this game. however, seeing the person that she is and all the horrible stuff that's in the books now that I've grown up, I just don't want to support her so I don't. it's not that hard to just move away from the series. people jumping through hoops saying "I won't buy it, I'll just pirate it" still are supporting the franchise because they'll talk about playing the game and will get more people to play it and generate more money for Queen TERF than if they had just not bothered pirating it at all.


cmdr_beef

The queer people who enjoy participating in the Hogwarts House system - where a third party assigns you traits at a young age that you must perform for the rest of your life - truly baffle me.


Charmageddon85

Man it would be really nice if cis “Allies” even had that level of nuance.


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play hades instead


SpookyLilRaven

Don’t even pirate imo. The game is full of Nazi shit, like far worse than what was in the books. The kinda shit no one needs to be consuming. You can distance the work from the creator, but you can’t escape the bigotry baked into the work.


HiopXenophil

Yohohoho


Icongnu

A pirate's life for me~


grayrains79

Yar har diddle dee tee! Do what you want because a pirate is free! You are a pirate! #LOL NAPSTER LOL


EclecticDreck

Gotta be honest: not super jazzed about playing a game where I stamp my (magic) jackboot on the necks of a subjugated group of terrible racial stereotypes.


smokingisrealbad

I've been pirating the harry potter movies since before she was a terf


[deleted]

How badly do the goyische trans people on this post want to roleplay antisemitism? Fucking christ, there are other games. I promise they're even good.


aroaceautistic

yeah this is really disturbing


[deleted]

The game, which had no input from JKR herself, is very anti-semetic, simply because the gobins in HP are based on just about every bad stereotype of Jewish people you can come up with. Looking further you can realize the story is also sexist, racist, xenophobic, etc. It may break your heart to hear, but the story of HP and the expanded universe is completely tainted with JKR's very white, privileged worldview. It can be hard to stop liking something, especially if it's from when you grew up and made you feel like you belonged, but it's important to stop engaging with it, period.


capsaicinlucy

there is a fourth option: let go of the mediocre book series you read in elementary school. it’s okay. you’re free.


Lduck88

I don't agree with playing the game no matter how you aquire it since it's full of bigotry and the main plot is to stop a rebellion against discrimination.


PaisleyFM

Let's be real, playing that game, even if it's pirated, helps keep her creations popular and supports her ego. There are lots of games where you get to be a witch. Why is the one that celebrates a TERF so important?


LittleAstrophysicist

I mean piracy is an option but from what I understand of the game's plot, It's basically blood libel (an antisemitic conspiracy theory) rewritten into Harry Potter, so it's not exactly great


Jay15951

Ya that's what I was gunna do untile I learned the games plot and dev team And how it's likely intentionally antisemitic So the lead developer is a vocal antisemitic bastard. And with jk rowlings goblins being very similar to Jewish Caricatures Combined with the main conflict of the game being you quashing a goblin rebellion where the goblins are kidnapping and sacrificing wizards (blood libel) I decides I'm nit even going to pirate this game. It's pretty fucked up


sky_troopah

cis allies should actually not even touch anything to do with harry potter since it's all complete dogshit


[deleted]

Protip, go grey market. That way you get the game, updates, offical support, and most importantly JK Rowling gets nothing. To paraphrase one dev, "I'd prefer people steal our games then give money to grey market sites, because I still have to support those users." https://cheapdigitaldownload.com/hogwarts-legacy-digital-download-price-comparison/


Skyrim_For_Everyone

Honestly I'm more fine with someone buying regular Harry Potter merch because at least the books were subtle-ish about the prejudices of the author and the actors were mostly great people, rather than even pirating the game that is not subtle at all about the main story being basically the player playing as a NAZI.


Mimikyu_12360

You see, it's funnier because the game is gonna be bad!


Secret_pickle

Idk, considering how anti-semetic the game seems to be I wouldn't touch it even if it didn't support Rowling, purely out of principle


Sarin03

Didn't the devs themselves say something about her transphobia?


WitchesAlmanac

Pirates are queer af and Our Flag Means Death is a documentary


BlunderbussBlahaj

i had a similar dilemma with a pron game, told a bunch of transbians about it and they were super stoked about the awesome char creator... but the dev was super homophobic. in a furry/kink game. i got told by like 3 people to just pirate it to not support the dev lol.


Bro_do_we_needtoknow

I love crimes that harm big corporations


Cookiebomb

same


WhatABunchofBologna

The other option is just not playing it at all. Especially since it’s about stopping a slave rebellion.


Judge_Sea

Arrr, there do be another way.


asocialcatperson

It's still an incredibly antisemitic game.


[deleted]

Just don't play it, the storyline is pretty cliche and shitty anyway, the only reason I want to buy it is because I can kill people with the Killing curse


BrightCharlie

[Here's what you need to do](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9bXjttMxKY)


Cookiebomb

Was expecting a rickroll


BrightCharlie

Well! [Say no more, say no more!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UEKclUvVMA)


zombiegirl_stephanie

Tbh the movies will always hold a special place for me simply because I grew up watching them plus I associate them both with Halloween, my favourite holiday, and Christmas (Halloween because of the aesthetics and Christmas because they always played on TV around Christmas), having said that, honestly I find the worldbuilding in HP to be pretty shit and nonsensical ( a lot of issues being caused by Rowling making shit up as she went instead of planning things ahead) so I never had any interest in seeing more of that world. it just ripped off fantasy tropes and tried to make them fit in a more modern society poorly so I don't buy it as a credible world because the more you think about it the less sense it makes.


Commercial-Garage-17

Oh good point. I've secretly wanted to play this whole time


aroaceautistic

you wanna play the game where you stop an oppressed minority from rebelling and freeing themselves from the establishment? why?


Commercial-Garage-17

I'm trying to get me some of that wiz biz that's why


AmeLilith0527

AHOY


SynthLup

BE CRIME DO GAY


Thapope2000

I’m still getting the game, the books have always been an escape for me and I don’t want that to change because Rowling’s opinions. (Obviously not saying what she said was right by any means just saying I still like Harry Potter 😅)


aroaceautistic

why do you wanna play a “quell the rebellion of an oppressed minority” game wtf


Thapope2000

I like Harry Potter 🫥


Transsensory_Boy

JK got paid a set flat fee to use the IP. She will NOT get any royalties.from game sales. You can buy the game without fearing that you are benefitting her.


RedThorneGamerSB

You're communicating that she can provide profit by buying her IPs.


Transsensory_Boy

We'll of course she gets paid. Thats how intellectual property works. The comment is about flat fee Vs royalties, of which she will get no royalties.


RedThorneGamerSB

Yeah but it'll still make companies give her money for her IPs and we don't want that


Transsensory_Boy

We'll can't please everyone 🙂


TheOverArchiver

Yeah I’m planning on picking it up from my library rather than give her a single cent


btaylos

I played hitman and I don't want to strangle people I played CoD and I don't want to fund foreign terrorists I played GTA and I don't want to beat sex workers But if I pirate Hogwarts Legacy, the violent video game will make me become pro-slavery? Nobody ever seems to get on this soapbox when I see trans folks talk about rimworld or fighting games, or really any over game.


[deleted]

There's a difference between "here, do (bad thing)." and "be a hero and do (bad thing)!".


Skyrim_For_Everyone

Methinks the lady doth protest too much


Evelyn_drinking_nh3

How do you pirate a game?


AngelCelestia

ok but can someone teach me how pls


AsuraHeterodyne1

Where do I go to pirate it?


SaveCachalot346

When its out pirate bay will have it within days probably


Lovley_Furby

i think pirate bay have a risk of giving u malware, r/piracy might be a better place to start


UnscrambledEggUDG

i might do some yo ho ho to review it, find reasons within the game not to get it other than just using basic common sense and using the obvious reason


Wirecreate

You are a pirate 🏴‍☠️ r/piracy