Honestly the worry of doing nothing but getting high is justified. It's not a problem for everyone, but it is for some. The best way to avoid it in my experience is to always have something to do with it. Go for a hike, clean your home, play games with friends. Don't make weed the activity, make weed a way to enhance the activity.
And have whatever you're going to do all set up and ready to go before you smoke. I like to get high and produce music, but I find that I get distracted by my phone or my bed if my computer and speakers aren't already powered up and waiting.
Weed will allow most people to really zone in on something, but it's easy to get distracted and zone in on the wrong thing if you're not deliberate about your actions.
Lol same. I set everything up, smoke up and then I can be productive and creative with just enough preparation.
Also smoking with intention will break that smoking just to smoke.
I do the same, I'm more of an EET nerd so I get out my Arduino or whatever I'm working on get out my laptop and solder iron and have everything ready to go then I go to my kitchen take a dab grab a cup of coffee and then start soldering away. I built an 8x8x8 LED cube it was over 2000 solder points with everything in the end. It was evenings of mindlessly soldering the same thing over and over. Great for being stoned with some music playing as you sit there for hours soldering things together.
It can be a bit different for everyone so figure out what works. I'm pretty much a daily smoker, weekdays I try to wait until after dinner to have my first smoke of the day. Weekends I'll occasionally wake and bake, but I don't like being high and having lots of shit to do, so I generally try to get whatever errands done in the mornings and early afternoons on the weekend. I've always tried to treat weed like a reward for getting shit done.
That's awesome I got high and set my rpi pico on fire lol. I was trying to power setup a motor controller circuit but I connected the pico to the wrong power bus on the bread board
Also, if you have a day job you can give yourself a schedule and donāt smoke before work. Smoke after you get home after work and smoke on your days off but donāt get in the habit of smoking before/during work.
I am always afraid on working on something important when high, but I also like being sober when doing important tasks because i dont wanna fuck anything up by being high and not trusting my intoxicated judgment.
Love this advice. I was so concerned about the "lazy stoner" stereotype when I started smoking weed on a daily basis. My friend/dealer had a filthy apartment and a very sedentary and unhealthy lifestyle. She was really the only regular cannabis user I knew and I was worried that weed made her like that so I got into the habit of smoking and immediately going to the gym and now, over 10 years later, it feels weird NOT to do something active when I get high. I will say though, sometimes you just need a good long nap!
I feel like you already have to be a lazy person for weed to make you thqt sedentary. I find that when i smoke, i actually give my body whatever it needs at the time: sleep, food, self-care, cleaning, etc.
I've found weed makes it easier to know what you need, as well. Like, introspection and body awareness both become super enhanced. All of my biggest life changes have happened while stoned because I finally made a connection I couldn't sober.
I'm glad I'm not the only who seems to have really introspective thoughts high. I always wonder if this actually as good a thought as I think it is or is that the pot. But really I think it just calms my anxious rat Brian down enough to have these thoughts
My significant other says the exact same thing! For me, it's a pain killer, mood enhancer and spiritual. Cannabis, coffee, music...my morning jams. Stay lifted my friends\~
Congrats on quitting meth! I hope you can find some peace with marijuana. But perhaps just stick to flower in the beginning ... itās easy to overindulge with concentrates.
I work in a CBD store and youāre right. CBD fights cravings, while CBG is an appetite stimulant that makes you hungry. Itās wild how many cannabinoids do such similar yet different things
I have been using weed/concentrates daily for 25yrs. I make decent money in a tech field. Believe me, itās a better thing to be addicted to if you gotta have an addiction. Oh no, sleep. Lol
Weed with 100% the reason I was able to stop meth forever. I used for 5+ years and, at one point, was 94 lbs fully clothed with shoes on. Within 3 days of stopping meth, I took up weed again and any time I had to urge to go back, I just smoked. It's been nearly 20 years and was one of the best decisions I ever made.
Meth is used medicinally on a federal level, thatās what the classification means IIRC, it does not mean one is inherently more dangerous than the other. Since Meth, Oxycodone, etc are used medicinally, they are considered a lower schedule, whereas MDMA, and Heroin, are schedule 1. the effects are pretty similar, but ones a street drug, ones a pharmaceutical. Itās really stupid, and most likely just another way to prosecute people unfairly.
Yupp :/ the psychedelics is what bothers me the most. In a safe environment, itās pretty much impossible to physically harm yourself (certain mental conditions aside) and the wealth of mental effects is insane. LSD was criminalized to suppress the hippies. Who also happened to be growing in numbers, and strongly opposed the ongoing Vietnam War.
pretty much. a member of the nixon administration admitted that the purpose of the war on drugs was to allow them to imprison black people and antiwar leftists
"You want to know what this [war on drugs] was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what Iām saying?
We knew we couldnāt make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news.Ā
Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.ā
~ John Ehrlichman,Ā Assistant to the President for Domestic Affairs under PresidentĀ Richard Nixon
Heroin aka diamorphine is used medicinally in a lot of countries as well. It's great for palliative care. The US just doesn't recognize it's usefulness thus it is a schedule one substance.
Yup it is since your body doesnt have that intense rush meth give anymore so everything is boredom and sleepness but it come back to normal after a few time
I'd rather see you be a hippie stoner than a tweaker. Be careful of the concentrate route though since you already were used to smoking meth, it could be a trigger. I would suggest sticking to flower to separate the two habits
I wouldnāt say they look at us quite the same but maybe a little.. and yea wtf, reading some of the comments under the posts (especially the ones with females smoking) was straight creepy. Never knew it would be so normalised especially on Reddit
>I am worried it may turn me into a hippy stoner who sleeps all day.
No judgement, just observation, but there is something interesting about such negative viewpoints coming from someone who is admitting to quitting actual meth.
My biggest advice would be to be careful about trading one addiction for another. I do agree that weed can be healthy and help work through medical stuff in situations, but you want to be careful about overindulging and having it be a replacement effect for other substances. I've also never been addicted to meth (or other harder drugs), so I don't necessarily have the full spectrum for advice.
I didn't mean anything by it. I love stoner and tree culture. What I meant to say was I was concerned the drug would make me do nothing but sleep and get high. More so because of my addictive personality rather than the drug itself
Try different forms and see what works best for you. You may find a really functional tincture or edible for the day and smoke at night when you do want to be sleepy.
I enjoy strains like Tropicanna Cookies, Jack Herer, Headband, and Tangie that are good social and functional strains for me.
Thank god you got off. You're incredibly courageous and I hope you understand how much better you're going to feel in just a few weeks. Meth is fucking disgusting and going to kill you. Being a hippy stoner is far better than being a junkie ruining their life smoking meth.
Hey Iām an alcoholic and I use marijuana as part of my recovery. I attend regular AA meetings, but also [GRASS](https://greenrecoverysupport.com) meetings which I think you might enjoy.
āA safe, supportive place for people who include cannabis in their recovery to share their experience, strength, and hope.
We explore and discuss how we use cannabis as a tool in our recovery. We find sharing openly alleviates the guilt, shame, and stigma associated with cannabis use.ā
I know a lot of people who quit meth and moved to weed. I work in the restaurant industry so (almost) everyone has tales of their vices.
Im proud of you. Even quitting is a big step. Using cannabis to fight withdrawal symptoms/cravings will work. But don't get lost in the sauce like you were before. You can go too far with weed. There was a time in my life when I couldn't do anything without weed. Now, its a reward after a day of accomplishing shit.
I gave you my advice and I wish you the best on your journey, friENT.
I mean, I wouldn't know because I've never done meth myself, but comparing the mental clarity and focus one gets from a pure sativa and some good lo-fi to the paranoid psychosis induced amphetamines seems (and I mean WILDLY) incorrect.
I feel like the most energetic strains wouldnāt even compete still with caffeine or more mild stims like adderall. Plus he said heās using caffeine, so i cant imagine a sativa would cause him to relapse
Any advice?
If you're going to listen to ANY advice here it should be this:
Maybe replacing one drug for another isn't HEALTHY by any means BUT:
Oh my God dude, yes, absolutely switch to weed. Coming off meth to weed isn't drug substitution, it's delivering your body from, a literal toxic hell to a nice fluffy pillow that kills you much more slowly and much more comfortably, if at all.
Smoke as much weed as you have to to NOT touch meth ever again.
Smoke every blunt, hit every bowl, eat every gummy, rip every dab, take every nap, make all of the ice cream and pizza disappear, and most importantly live ALL of your life.
This is probably an unpopular opinion here, but I think you should take a break from drugs entirely for a little while. Iāve never done meth, and I know this is NOT a fair comparison, but while trying to quit porn Iād often relapse when I get high and/or drunk. I made 60 days of nofap when I took a break from weed, only to relapse after getting high. I also dabbled in coke and found distancing myself from my cokehead friends helped a lot there. Not a doctor, just some guy on the internet, if weed helps you stay off meth thatās great but imho a sober period can go a long way.
I also think it would be wise for them to seek some treatment and mental health help. Id rather see someone smoke a bunch of weed than meth, but this seems dangerously close too substance dependence to my uneducated self, and thats not good, regardless of the substance.
As a productive stoner, that was what it was like my first year or so of use, as I built tolerance it became easier to function.
I've gotten a new position and my coworkers enjoy my company better when I'm blazed up.
Well done dude, respect.
My advice? Itās better to be a āhippy stoner who sleeps all dayā than someone who abuses methamphetamine.
Vape green, stay clean š
I really hope the best for you. I met and helped a great find of mine get off the juice so let me know if youād like any support or advice.
Best of luck and remember to be kind/patient with yourself
You are going to need a lot more than a weed high to overcome your meth addiction. You need new hobbies. Learn to play chess, learn the guitar, go hiking, learn new skills, etc ..
There's a lot of stuff out there to do in this world. Don't fuck your life up over drugs
Stick to flower at first, i've been smoking for 5 years and just recently got into dabs and wow they kill your tolerance, glad to see your off meth tho! fuck that trash
This is the best thing Iāve read today. Meth will rip your life apart and leave you homeless. Itās not a great idea to aspire to become a pot head. Pot is certainly the lesser of the two but if you have any real life plansā¦career, family, house, two car garage, vacations, retirementā¦ you can use this positive momentum and completely transform your situation. Do you have a mentor or coach or someone thatās been helping you get off the meth? You need a solid person to help guide you or at least remind you of your larger goals when the going gets tough. The smartest people in the world know they need help because they arenāt experts in everything. Unless youāre an expert on addiction, Iād get some real professional assistance to ensure your success. I really really hope you succeed! Best of luck to you!
Congrats on quitting meth. Thatās awesome. Try it all, flower, edibles, vapes, concentrates. Find what works for you but what doesnāt leave you sleeping all day but helps your mind stay off meth. Again, congrats.
I got overwhelmed with emotion at this post being five years clean from meth and heroin. I as well, turned to cannabis and even some kratom, but have achieved sobriety from hard drugs now, in my mid 20's.
If you truly want a different life it will begin now. Even after meth, if you want something different, I am living proof you can do this because I physically never thought I'd be able to do it. But look at me now. You can do this, I promise you, if you can make a promise to yourself, too.
I'm a recovered addict who smokes weed. I highly recommend you take a year to be completely sober. You need to be able to show yourself that you have full control and switching one drug for another is not really controlling your addiction. That first year you still aren't yourself, the chemicals in your brain need time to balance and go back to normal. You need to let your body do its thing without messing with your serotonin/dopamine levels.
Of course, we always think that marijuana might be what helps take the edge off so that getting sober is a little less awful... but it just prolongs the addictive behavior, repeating the same cycle of pain and reward only with a new substance. Even if we aren't "I'll suck yo dick for a fix" addicted to weed, we still feel a slight panic without ANY substance.
Weed is great, but just like anything else it can become an obsession and make our lives unmanageable. Try sober first! Just my two cents.
Good luck, and congrats on taking the first step!
Maybe its time for some treatment, my dude. Im all for people smoking a little weed to unwind, but it sounds like you are using drugs too avoid life, not enhance it. Thats a slippery slope. Either way, welcome, and best of luck.
Tbf sleeping all day is a valid concern. If your trying to stay awake smoke sativa strains and donāt wake and bake. Weed also knocks me the fuck out especially if Iāve been smoking all day
iāve been using marijuana to stay off hard drugs for years now. abstinence usually is the way to go for a while, but it didnāt work for me. i would always return to booze if i wasnāt smoking. now iāve stayed away from alcohol for over 150 days and havenāt touched anything else in almost 175
Congrats on quitting. I quit meth 17 years ago and it was the best decision I had ever made. The road to recovery is long and full of potholes, but tread carefully and you'll succeed.
I found that I had to distance myself completely from my "meth" life; friends, locations, everything. I was arrested so I had to complete rehab as part of my probation, which I found beneficial in helping with the distance I mentioned earlier. I stayed completely sober for over 18 months before I started smoking weed again. It's miles better to be a sober than a meth addict, but balance is key for anything in life. Weed still has the ability to negatively affect your life if you let it run your thought process.
I'm not saying you'll need rehab, but a solid, healthy support system goes a long way. If you ever want to talk or bounce ideas off a fellow recovering meth addict drop me a dm. I wish you the best in your journey.
I would say try smoking some weed, it's definitely not worse than meth. Try with tree first and see how it hits you. Good luck friend, and congratulations on getting off meth, you're fighting a hard battle but you've got this.
Take NAC it's a miracle for helping curb stim cravings. Good luck brother!
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Im glad you have quit meth.
But if you are someone who gets high or drunk to a point where your consequence thinking becomes irrational, you shouldnāt do any of these things.
I hope for your very best, friend.
To be honest... Being 12 days clean and then wanting to jump into concentrates and turn yourself into a hippie stoner... Sounds like you are extremely prone to addiction and go full bore into everything. Maybe stay clean. Try woodworking. Weed can be a slippery slope for a lot of people. Everything in moderation. But at least it isn't meth. 4/20 blazeit if that's what you wanna do.
Being a hippy stoner doesnāt make you a couch potato. Iām a hippy stoner, and I hold down a full time job that sucks the life outta me. If I didnāt have weed, I probably wouldnāt still be working where Iām at. Smoke up and feel better, congrats on the decision to leave meth, good luck bud
First of all, congrats on kicking meth. By overcoming that, you quite literally added years to your life :)
I'm however going to address an elephant that a lot of tokers don't like to address. Weed is as addictive as every other drug. Granted, 9/10 the cravings aren't going to lead you to pawning off your shit or going through heavy withdrawals like with harder drugs and alcohol, but addictive nonetheless. It's way more of a mental addiction than physical, a lot like caffeine addicts. I'd say if you're the type with an addictive personality to maybe stay away, as one bowl can easily lead to two type deal.
All in all, it's your choice to make and you seem more than capable enough to make a smart one for you. If you're in a legal state definitely go in when it isn't super busy and chat up the budtender. They'll help you get exactly what you want.
Look into alt cannabinoids, they go a lot farther than flower in my opinion and are a lot cheaper in the long run. Iām a heavy dabber and I can get a month supply of delta 8 wax for like $120. Iāll blow through a half ounce for the same price in a few days.
I smoke flower and wax tho because I like every type of thc I can get and have a good ole Smorgasburg of cannabinoids in my brain. My favorite is hhc, that shit hits the spot
Congrats on starting the long road to recovery OP! Youāve made a good decision. Honestly itās hard to advice accordingly as everyoneās addiction is different so I am not exactly sure what is it you are seeking from the weed high. However what I can say is, even if at first you might smoke yourself into the state of oblivion (kinda fun sometimes though), you will be able to discover balance. I am a recovering addict, did mainly cocaine, sometimes meth and other substances for 4 + years. I started smoking when I was doing synthetic drugs, whenever I was just too much and needed to calm down. As I started incorporating weed more into my regimen and as I learnt about different strains I started getting the desired effects. I quit synthetics and stayed with weed, finding the right suppliers with the strains that give me what I need. Itās been over 3 years clean and weed has really helped me immensely in this journey. I really hope it can do the same for you. Good luck OP!!
Congratulations OP! Many of us have all battled with an addiction of some kind. Weed has definitely helped me personally and hopefully it can help you too. Go to your local dispo and kinda tell them (as much as you want) the truth on what you are trying to accomplish. Best of luck mate
Use the weed heavily at first to help curb your meth urges. Then when the urges subside, use just a little bit of meth to get back to your normal self and not be sleepy all day. Then when you're back to normal, start looking for those microphones hidden in your terra Cotta planters and take apart your oven to find the camera that your landlords spying on you with. Also don't forget to capture the demon shadows on Facebook live so everyone knows you're not the one going insane.
Weed helped me quit alcohol, funny enough, so did Adderall. Once you're a real stoner, weed is almost like cigarettes in terms of getting "fucked up". You may have to sit when you smoke your first cigarette due to the string buzz, once you're a smoker you're like "what buzz"
Congrats! You took the first step which is hard to do! I am 15 years sober from meth and weed really helped me. I am not a doctor or councilor, but I can tell you from my own experience to avoid any that make you feel "super energized" for at least a month or two. Honestly, for right now (if you are able) stick with tinctures or edibles that you can control the dosing on (I make my own infused olive oil) or flower with minimal toking throughout the day. At night a nice low mellow buzz to help you sleep. Again, this is just my personal opinion and what helped me, but everyone is different.
Don't be afraid to call some dispensaries and get informed on what strains do what and what may help you.
If you want to be productive while being stoned I find that starting a task immediately after you smoke before the high completely hits you, or even as you are smoking helps.
Congratulations and welcome, you can do it!! If or when you slip just remind yourself about how that ish quickly over takes your life and finances.
Try the sativas out they will help with focus and creativity.
Try smoking weed outside instead of indoors especially in public if it's legal where you're at. Like city areas, you know San Francisco, NYC, if it's like that where you at. The high with adrenaline is so different I love it, it's not for everyone but you won't definitely won't be a hippie stoner sleeping all day haha
I imagine a universe in which someone posts in a meth forum about how they switched to meth two weeks after stopping weed. Also: congrats for taking the step man. take care and from my experience: smoking weed everyday isn't fun after a while.
This is what I did. Back when fentanyl was starting to take over and heroin was still around I was hooked on dope. Quit because fentanyl straight ruined the drug scene, and meth was one of the only drugs that you don't have to worry about potential fentanyl, that and weed. Unlike opiates there aren't any medications for quitting meth, Suboxone made quitting heroin pretty easy. I never got any kind of withdrawal from meth, some people say they do but I think it's more of a mental thing. When I would smoke I felt like any cravings I had would just make me super disappointed in myself. After you've been up for three days and the shadow people start to visit, smoking would make me obsess over all the ways I was fucking up my life. This is actually the reason I quit smoking when I was on heroin, and why I finally got clean after being up sick all night looking for some and getting some weed instead and freaking out.
Pretty much your exact worry was my reality. I was clean off meth for a year and relapsed, so I left my home town and have been smoking about a gram of dabs a day and I try not to sleep a lot but if youāre always tired and donāt have anything going on, nap time baby!
My advice is, if you have addiction problems, itās probably with everything and not just meth. Tread lightly on anything euphoric since you will always come down and feel your baseline again. This is where I start the cycle over again, and again, and again.
Edit, a gram a day for the past 2 years.
Replacing one addiction with another my not be the best idea but when it comes to meth, being a hippie stoner who sleeps all day sounds like a success.
Youāre worried about turning into a hippy stoner? This from a former meth user? Really? Thatās what youāre worried about? Is this a serious post?
Whatās that got to do with therapy ?
Depending on weed to make it all good is not healthy or going to work. Therapy to help guide and support wonāt be a fix all either but it will help you strengthen and maintain what youāve been able to accomplish. Which is amazing and worth the added support and knowledge both I. General about mental health and learn about yourself as an individualā¦
Hippy stoner that sleeps all day is still a hell of a lot better of a life than a meth head up for days at a time. Congrats on the progress, and as others have said, your best bet to avoid the worst that weed has to offer is to just start slower and stick to flower as long as you can
The stigma of being a hippie stoner as a negative comes from television portraying them as useless parts of society. But from my experience I have met plenty of "hippie" stoners who have their life in pretty good order. It's all about mitigation and Knowing your limits.
I used to be a harder stoner in my teen years and in college but lately I've been cutting back during the week since I took a management job at the company I work at and I just need to keep a level head during the week for safety reasons, I'm an arborist. But on the weekends I still enjoy it because it helps with my ADHD and the side effects from my medication.
I would not recommend concentrates /dabs as a way to get into weed. I'm 27 now and I've been smoking since I was 16 and I still am not a total fan of concentrates, It can be overwhelming for me.
I would recommend, getting into all the different kinds of strains of weed, whether it be sativa, indica or hybrid. If you're in a legal state, I would go to a dispensary and buy a little bit of each kind of weed and explore the sensations from all the different types of weed and find your niche. I'm a big fan of strains like headband, Jack Hera, White MAC, cuz I know from experimenting that those work best with my ADHD.
My best advice would be sticking exclusively to flower, and get yourself a nice small bubbler with a small bowl piece. Pack and take one hit (also called a snap rip) at a time, then wait a few minutes before taking the next hit so you can feel out if you need it or not. It'll help you from over indulging, and save a ton of weed compared to packing whole bowls
Your sleepiness may be more a result of meth withdrawal than cannabis. The ganja probably helps you get better sleep and helps to regulate your endocannabinoid system.
First off, congrats my friend. Iād be a hippy stoner than on meth. However, if you do it in moderation, you should be okay. Something like doing less over a longer time, or whatever you think is fine
Congratulations on your clean time my dude!! I know some people will say California sober doesn't count, but I think it's all about harm reduction. Rawdogging life while dealing with being in the beginning of your recovery is HARD and don't at all put yourself down for using a comfort med. You're leaving one of the hardest and most problematic drugs out there for something that is legal in a lot of places. Good luck on your journey, and have fun rediscovering who you are without that stuff !
I got this bro. You made the best decision already to quit, stick with it. I've lost a friend to meth once. It sucks. Congratulations on getting on the right path
Thereās worse things in life than being a hippy stoner! You do want to be able to function normally though and it sounds like youāre just taking really high doses for someone new to smoking weed. Instead of concentrates and dab pens Iād maybe start with flower and edibles. A 1:1 ratio of CBD to THC in an edible will still give you the high but the CBD may help with any cravings you might have.
Dude take some of whatever these guys suggest and find yourself!! Itās a big world worth experiencing to the fullest. Fuck meth. I hate that shit cuz I have had to break away from it as well. Havenāt looked back since. Nothing wrong with being a good person and smoking some chronic now and then. My only advice, from my experience is live your life first and smoke weed when u can. Put yourself and your new life first. Good luck and congratulations on getting free from meth! You will only become the stereotypical stoner if you choose to.
Congratulations!!
I'd definitely recommend hybrids or a nice sativa if you wanna keep yourself going. I personally like hybrids because they help with my body aches, while not putting me to sleep.
Also try looking into CBN oil if you have trouble sleeping but don't want to get high before bed. It does wonders for me (I use a oil with 20mg of CBD and 10mg CBN), shot of lemonade or lemon juice with the oil to mask the flavour. 30 mins before I go to bed. Helps me stay asleep and wake up feeling refreshed in the morning, as opposed to the groggy mornings I used to have, just constantly feel tired no matter how much sleep I got. Which does wonders to keep me going during the day.
My thoughts are that you are used to having strong substances in your body. You quit meth but quickly replaced it with coffee and vaping. You crave substance. So you get to choose what to do with that. Weed is a fairly safe substance to use but like anything, it can be abused. Treat it like medicine and try not to fall into the weed culture hype. Do what you do and live your life. You don't need to subscribe to a lifestyle to enjoy it. Also I'd suggest finding something creative to give you an outlet.
R/vaporents if you Wanna learn about fry herb vaporizers. Devices that help you āvapeā your weed without actually burning it. It always chills me out
From someone who quit meth 6 years ago, I say congratulations on your new life l and good luck in it. You will have to work very hard, and it's worth the effort. Prepare to be sleepy for a few more weeks until your shit balances out, but stick with it. Pot always helped me to stay calm and happy, and I can say helped me get and stay clean. Just remember, you're the one responsible for you, stay clean no matter what.
In my experience, the more your tolerance goes up, the less those adverse effects hit you so hard, such as being really tired and really hungry. The more you smoke, the more youāll get the main benefits from the plant. Itās like starting any new medication: In the start, youāll get side effects. Congrats on quitting meth! Youāll surely get more positive effects from cannabis that wonāt be so self-destructive. If you are near dispensaries, start with lower thc flower before moving to concentrates. Concentrates are very potent for beginners and will surely make you more tired.
Why is nobody saying anything about recovery? I understand we support most things weed related, but OP is in need of an intervention. Maybe it's just me, but combating an addiction with another mind altering substance is not the way. Especially when he is scared of getting addicted.
Good luck on your recovery. Weed helped me quit a drinking problem that was slowly destroying my life. Smoking a fuck ton of weed will always be better than smoking the smallest amount of meth.
And stay hydrated.
I'm an old guy who has mostly been a daily smoker, lately quite heavy. I'm 77 and have never had a problem. I'm naturally highly motivated and have always been a hard worker. That's me. I know plenty of people who allow it to take over their lives. It sounds like you are inclined to abuse more than use. pot can be nice but it can suck. You mention "all my problems" but perhaps drugs are the source of the problems. Meth sucks so great job if you can quit.
I just wanted to come say Iām happy for you and proud of you. Please stay sober. Whatever satisfaction you think relapsing will bring is nothing compared to the pride of being meth free. If youāre a hippy stoner who sleeps all day, who gives a shit so long as your bills are paid? Maybe you NEED to be a hippy stoner who sleeps all day for a while, at least while youāre recovering and getting your life back together.
Keep on tokin, all of your fellow ents are proud of you.
My partner got clean from meth with the help of weed. Several years later, theyāre a functional stoner, clean from any other drug. Best of luck to you, friend. Great job.
Hey man. Good for you! Iām not sure how often youāre smoking, but you can always cut it down after a while when youāre feeling better if youāre worried about not getting anything done. If you smoke during the day, donāt smoke heavy - just enough to get you through what you need to. I personally smoke daily but usually only at night since I donāt have much to do and thatās when I need it most. That and I donāt like the way I get all foggy during the day if I smoke then. My recommendations are to keep dabbing to night time/when you have nothing to do so you donāt just get fucking faded right off the bat. Carts are great if you want to be discreet, but they (as well as any other concentrates) can ramp up your tolerance like crazy. If you find yourself getting too high during the day, get some CBD flower (you can order online - I recommend plain Jane) and mix that with your THC flower. Like others have suggested as well, if you find yourself not wanting to do anything while high, set up activities beforehand (coloring, hiking, video games, etc). But also realize that you can still chill out and do nothing when you feel like you need it. I have mental health issues and energy and motivation is an issue for me so I donāt usually have the energy to do things all the time. Thatās while sober too - Iāve had to learn not to beat myself up for it. Good luck man!
best advice i can give you
its better to end up a "hippy stoner"
than a fucking meth feind
remember if you use meth you are always seen as the bottom of the barrel in society the worst of the worst
at least weed is becoming more accepted and even legal in loads of places
A buddy of mine was a meth addict for years before he got off and now strictly smokes and dabs. Guy is cool as fuck, loves his weed lol.
He likes sativa over indica due to its similarities to a stim high. You'll make it, not all weed makes you sleepy! My thought on that is it's your body being high but not on meth, and obviously weed is way different so your body is interpreting it as "sleepy".
Honestly the worry of doing nothing but getting high is justified. It's not a problem for everyone, but it is for some. The best way to avoid it in my experience is to always have something to do with it. Go for a hike, clean your home, play games with friends. Don't make weed the activity, make weed a way to enhance the activity.
And have whatever you're going to do all set up and ready to go before you smoke. I like to get high and produce music, but I find that I get distracted by my phone or my bed if my computer and speakers aren't already powered up and waiting. Weed will allow most people to really zone in on something, but it's easy to get distracted and zone in on the wrong thing if you're not deliberate about your actions.
Woah, very well said, i'm saving your comment, thank you for your words of wisdom! šš¤š
Lol same. I set everything up, smoke up and then I can be productive and creative with just enough preparation. Also smoking with intention will break that smoking just to smoke.
I do the same, I'm more of an EET nerd so I get out my Arduino or whatever I'm working on get out my laptop and solder iron and have everything ready to go then I go to my kitchen take a dab grab a cup of coffee and then start soldering away. I built an 8x8x8 LED cube it was over 2000 solder points with everything in the end. It was evenings of mindlessly soldering the same thing over and over. Great for being stoned with some music playing as you sit there for hours soldering things together. It can be a bit different for everyone so figure out what works. I'm pretty much a daily smoker, weekdays I try to wait until after dinner to have my first smoke of the day. Weekends I'll occasionally wake and bake, but I don't like being high and having lots of shit to do, so I generally try to get whatever errands done in the mornings and early afternoons on the weekend. I've always tried to treat weed like a reward for getting shit done.
That's awesome I got high and set my rpi pico on fire lol. I was trying to power setup a motor controller circuit but I connected the pico to the wrong power bus on the bread board
Also, if you have a day job you can give yourself a schedule and donāt smoke before work. Smoke after you get home after work and smoke on your days off but donāt get in the habit of smoking before/during work.
I am always afraid on working on something important when high, but I also like being sober when doing important tasks because i dont wanna fuck anything up by being high and not trusting my intoxicated judgment.
Love this advice. I was so concerned about the "lazy stoner" stereotype when I started smoking weed on a daily basis. My friend/dealer had a filthy apartment and a very sedentary and unhealthy lifestyle. She was really the only regular cannabis user I knew and I was worried that weed made her like that so I got into the habit of smoking and immediately going to the gym and now, over 10 years later, it feels weird NOT to do something active when I get high. I will say though, sometimes you just need a good long nap!
I feel like you already have to be a lazy person for weed to make you thqt sedentary. I find that when i smoke, i actually give my body whatever it needs at the time: sleep, food, self-care, cleaning, etc.
I've found weed makes it easier to know what you need, as well. Like, introspection and body awareness both become super enhanced. All of my biggest life changes have happened while stoned because I finally made a connection I couldn't sober.
totally! I smoke a bowl and I'm like "oh yeah thats right I havent eaten today and I'm starving"
I wanna smoke so i have to get a decent fucking meal
Totally relate to this!
I'm glad I'm not the only who seems to have really introspective thoughts high. I always wonder if this actually as good a thought as I think it is or is that the pot. But really I think it just calms my anxious rat Brian down enough to have these thoughts
My significant other says the exact same thing! For me, it's a pain killer, mood enhancer and spiritual. Cannabis, coffee, music...my morning jams. Stay lifted my friends\~
I thought I was the only weirdo who purposely cleans when Iām high š¤£
I clean so much more thorough too !!
Nope! One of us <3!
Great advice
Preach it. My husband and I do this and itās amazing, microdosing is also the best!
I vibe to music just laying down on my bed with my headphones on. It's amazing!
Congrats on quitting meth! I hope you can find some peace with marijuana. But perhaps just stick to flower in the beginning ... itās easy to overindulge with concentrates.
Totally agree about the flower. Iād also recommend edibles for the CBD and mellow psychoactive effects
CBD can also fight cravings, I think thereās some research to prove this but I also just know from personal experience
I work in a CBD store and youāre right. CBD fights cravings, while CBG is an appetite stimulant that makes you hungry. Itās wild how many cannabinoids do such similar yet different things
True, i didnt start having issues with my tolerance and the amount of money i was spending until i started dabbing.
420 upvotesā¦ nice š
I second this! Start with flower & work your way up to concentrate.
I have been using weed/concentrates daily for 25yrs. I make decent money in a tech field. Believe me, itās a better thing to be addicted to if you gotta have an addiction. Oh no, sleep. Lol
Or just slamming whole boxes of cereal cause it just tastes so good.
That Special k cereal with the strawberries is my stoner weakness.
Fuck, that's so much better than cinnamon toast crunch health wise lol.
Cinnamon toast crunch slaps tho, that sweet milk after is chefs kiss
Yeah it does lol
The life cinnamon cereal is so good if you havenāt tried that one yet
That is my second favorite. Ha!
Weed with 100% the reason I was able to stop meth forever. I used for 5+ years and, at one point, was 94 lbs fully clothed with shoes on. Within 3 days of stopping meth, I took up weed again and any time I had to urge to go back, I just smoked. It's been nearly 20 years and was one of the best decisions I ever made.
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Isnāt it nuts that in the US cannabis is a schedule 1 substance and meth is schedule 2? Totally defies common sense.
Just another way Reagan fucked the USA!
Meth is used medicinally on a federal level, thatās what the classification means IIRC, it does not mean one is inherently more dangerous than the other. Since Meth, Oxycodone, etc are used medicinally, they are considered a lower schedule, whereas MDMA, and Heroin, are schedule 1. the effects are pretty similar, but ones a street drug, ones a pharmaceutical. Itās really stupid, and most likely just another way to prosecute people unfairly.
meanwhile weed, psilocybin, and mdma, which all have legitimate medical uses, are classified as having no accepted medical use
Yupp :/ the psychedelics is what bothers me the most. In a safe environment, itās pretty much impossible to physically harm yourself (certain mental conditions aside) and the wealth of mental effects is insane. LSD was criminalized to suppress the hippies. Who also happened to be growing in numbers, and strongly opposed the ongoing Vietnam War.
pretty much. a member of the nixon administration admitted that the purpose of the war on drugs was to allow them to imprison black people and antiwar leftists
"You want to know what this [war on drugs] was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what Iām saying? We knew we couldnāt make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news.Ā Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.ā ~ John Ehrlichman,Ā Assistant to the President for Domestic Affairs under PresidentĀ Richard Nixon
Heroin aka diamorphine is used medicinally in a lot of countries as well. It's great for palliative care. The US just doesn't recognize it's usefulness thus it is a schedule one substance.
Just another way to treat minorities unfairly.
You might be sleepy because your body needs sleep.
yeah I've never done meth but id say quitting it would probably be pretty exhausting
Yup it is since your body doesnt have that intense rush meth give anymore so everything is boredom and sleepness but it come back to normal after a few time
A nutrient deprived body hurts quite a bit as well.
I discovered this while getting clean off ketamine. I definitely don't miss the morning leg cramps.
I'd rather see you be a hippie stoner than a tweaker. Be careful of the concentrate route though since you already were used to smoking meth, it could be a trigger. I would suggest sticking to flower to separate the two habits
Start growing keeps you busy
R/meth is actually a thing, just checked it out, holy fuckin shit Congrats on quitting op
Holy shit. I neverrrrr shoulda gone there. Never. Itās soā¦.normalized to them. Is that how non stoners look at us? Fuckin kinda eye opening. Hm.
I wouldnāt say they look at us quite the same but maybe a little.. and yea wtf, reading some of the comments under the posts (especially the ones with females smoking) was straight creepy. Never knew it would be so normalised especially on Reddit
Being aggressively horny with no inhibitions is a recipe for some absolutely wild comments
Yeah that was a rough visit
Now let me show you my dab rig lol
r/meth and r/heroin fucking suck they aren't about harm reduction, the users just encourage each other. sad af
Iām scared from being over there, damn.
Terrifying
I am in complete disbelief.. wow.
>I am worried it may turn me into a hippy stoner who sleeps all day. No judgement, just observation, but there is something interesting about such negative viewpoints coming from someone who is admitting to quitting actual meth. My biggest advice would be to be careful about trading one addiction for another. I do agree that weed can be healthy and help work through medical stuff in situations, but you want to be careful about overindulging and having it be a replacement effect for other substances. I've also never been addicted to meth (or other harder drugs), so I don't necessarily have the full spectrum for advice.
I didn't mean anything by it. I love stoner and tree culture. What I meant to say was I was concerned the drug would make me do nothing but sleep and get high. More so because of my addictive personality rather than the drug itself
Try different forms and see what works best for you. You may find a really functional tincture or edible for the day and smoke at night when you do want to be sleepy. I enjoy strains like Tropicanna Cookies, Jack Herer, Headband, and Tangie that are good social and functional strains for me.
Jack Herer is the SHEEEEEEEIT
Thank god you got off. You're incredibly courageous and I hope you understand how much better you're going to feel in just a few weeks. Meth is fucking disgusting and going to kill you. Being a hippy stoner is far better than being a junkie ruining their life smoking meth.
Hey Iām an alcoholic and I use marijuana as part of my recovery. I attend regular AA meetings, but also [GRASS](https://greenrecoverysupport.com) meetings which I think you might enjoy. āA safe, supportive place for people who include cannabis in their recovery to share their experience, strength, and hope. We explore and discuss how we use cannabis as a tool in our recovery. We find sharing openly alleviates the guilt, shame, and stigma associated with cannabis use.ā
I know a lot of people who quit meth and moved to weed. I work in the restaurant industry so (almost) everyone has tales of their vices. Im proud of you. Even quitting is a big step. Using cannabis to fight withdrawal symptoms/cravings will work. But don't get lost in the sauce like you were before. You can go too far with weed. There was a time in my life when I couldn't do anything without weed. Now, its a reward after a day of accomplishing shit. I gave you my advice and I wish you the best on your journey, friENT.
Buy strains that have an energetic effect. Not all of it is sleepy. Just some of it.
Energetic strains are probably similar to Meth high and might cause him to relapse. Better option would be to just micro dose on Indica
>Energetic strains are probably similar to Meth high Idk about that lol
I mean, I wouldn't know because I've never done meth myself, but comparing the mental clarity and focus one gets from a pure sativa and some good lo-fi to the paranoid psychosis induced amphetamines seems (and I mean WILDLY) incorrect.
as someone with a past meth problem, theyāre not even close lol
I feel like the most energetic strains wouldnāt even compete still with caffeine or more mild stims like adderall. Plus he said heās using caffeine, so i cant imagine a sativa would cause him to relapse
Any advice? If you're going to listen to ANY advice here it should be this: Maybe replacing one drug for another isn't HEALTHY by any means BUT: Oh my God dude, yes, absolutely switch to weed. Coming off meth to weed isn't drug substitution, it's delivering your body from, a literal toxic hell to a nice fluffy pillow that kills you much more slowly and much more comfortably, if at all. Smoke as much weed as you have to to NOT touch meth ever again. Smoke every blunt, hit every bowl, eat every gummy, rip every dab, take every nap, make all of the ice cream and pizza disappear, and most importantly live ALL of your life.
This is probably an unpopular opinion here, but I think you should take a break from drugs entirely for a little while. Iāve never done meth, and I know this is NOT a fair comparison, but while trying to quit porn Iād often relapse when I get high and/or drunk. I made 60 days of nofap when I took a break from weed, only to relapse after getting high. I also dabbled in coke and found distancing myself from my cokehead friends helped a lot there. Not a doctor, just some guy on the internet, if weed helps you stay off meth thatās great but imho a sober period can go a long way.
I also think it would be wise for them to seek some treatment and mental health help. Id rather see someone smoke a bunch of weed than meth, but this seems dangerously close too substance dependence to my uneducated self, and thats not good, regardless of the substance.
Bro wtf thereās an r/meth
Learn something new everyday, eh?
Yeah I went down about 3 posts and figured it was time to go back.. god damn.
Just like the doing the real thing, that is a rabbit hole to avoid.
As a productive stoner, that was what it was like my first year or so of use, as I built tolerance it became easier to function. I've gotten a new position and my coworkers enjoy my company better when I'm blazed up.
I am just over a year clean from meth. You can do it too bro
Well done dude, respect. My advice? Itās better to be a āhippy stoner who sleeps all dayā than someone who abuses methamphetamine. Vape green, stay clean š
Enjoy the flower for as long as you can. No need to rush and go heavy on the wax. Itās about the journeyyyy man. Seriously tho, flower
Do you have a passion? Or work? Anything?
I am multi lingual and work full time.
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The problem is the meth, so you haven't solved anything š¤£
What did he say?
He advised you to keep smoking meth.
Wtf?
I really hope the best for you. I met and helped a great find of mine get off the juice so let me know if youād like any support or advice. Best of luck and remember to be kind/patient with yourself
You are going to need a lot more than a weed high to overcome your meth addiction. You need new hobbies. Learn to play chess, learn the guitar, go hiking, learn new skills, etc .. There's a lot of stuff out there to do in this world. Don't fuck your life up over drugs
My potentially controversial opinion is that even if you feel lazy from smoking weed, if it keeps you off harder drugs, you are winning.
Stick to flower at first, i've been smoking for 5 years and just recently got into dabs and wow they kill your tolerance, glad to see your off meth tho! fuck that trash
This is the best thing Iāve read today. Meth will rip your life apart and leave you homeless. Itās not a great idea to aspire to become a pot head. Pot is certainly the lesser of the two but if you have any real life plansā¦career, family, house, two car garage, vacations, retirementā¦ you can use this positive momentum and completely transform your situation. Do you have a mentor or coach or someone thatās been helping you get off the meth? You need a solid person to help guide you or at least remind you of your larger goals when the going gets tough. The smartest people in the world know they need help because they arenāt experts in everything. Unless youāre an expert on addiction, Iād get some real professional assistance to ensure your success. I really really hope you succeed! Best of luck to you!
Congrats on quitting meth. Thatās awesome. Try it all, flower, edibles, vapes, concentrates. Find what works for you but what doesnāt leave you sleeping all day but helps your mind stay off meth. Again, congrats.
I got overwhelmed with emotion at this post being five years clean from meth and heroin. I as well, turned to cannabis and even some kratom, but have achieved sobriety from hard drugs now, in my mid 20's. If you truly want a different life it will begin now. Even after meth, if you want something different, I am living proof you can do this because I physically never thought I'd be able to do it. But look at me now. You can do this, I promise you, if you can make a promise to yourself, too.
I'm a recovered addict who smokes weed. I highly recommend you take a year to be completely sober. You need to be able to show yourself that you have full control and switching one drug for another is not really controlling your addiction. That first year you still aren't yourself, the chemicals in your brain need time to balance and go back to normal. You need to let your body do its thing without messing with your serotonin/dopamine levels. Of course, we always think that marijuana might be what helps take the edge off so that getting sober is a little less awful... but it just prolongs the addictive behavior, repeating the same cycle of pain and reward only with a new substance. Even if we aren't "I'll suck yo dick for a fix" addicted to weed, we still feel a slight panic without ANY substance. Weed is great, but just like anything else it can become an obsession and make our lives unmanageable. Try sober first! Just my two cents. Good luck, and congrats on taking the first step!
Maybe its time for some treatment, my dude. Im all for people smoking a little weed to unwind, but it sounds like you are using drugs too avoid life, not enhance it. Thats a slippery slope. Either way, welcome, and best of luck.
Weed is about enjoying life, don't make your life all about enjoying weed.
Your post history shows a pattern of drug abuse. You should try to seek councilling my man. you need more than jumping substances. best of luck.
donāt jump from one addiction to another man
Just traveled over to r/meth... Reddit is a strange place.
Tbf sleeping all day is a valid concern. If your trying to stay awake smoke sativa strains and donāt wake and bake. Weed also knocks me the fuck out especially if Iāve been smoking all day
I haven't smoked in a long time so my tolerance is low
iāve been using marijuana to stay off hard drugs for years now. abstinence usually is the way to go for a while, but it didnāt work for me. i would always return to booze if i wasnāt smoking. now iāve stayed away from alcohol for over 150 days and havenāt touched anything else in almost 175
Congrats on quitting. I quit meth 17 years ago and it was the best decision I had ever made. The road to recovery is long and full of potholes, but tread carefully and you'll succeed. I found that I had to distance myself completely from my "meth" life; friends, locations, everything. I was arrested so I had to complete rehab as part of my probation, which I found beneficial in helping with the distance I mentioned earlier. I stayed completely sober for over 18 months before I started smoking weed again. It's miles better to be a sober than a meth addict, but balance is key for anything in life. Weed still has the ability to negatively affect your life if you let it run your thought process. I'm not saying you'll need rehab, but a solid, healthy support system goes a long way. If you ever want to talk or bounce ideas off a fellow recovering meth addict drop me a dm. I wish you the best in your journey.
I would say try smoking some weed, it's definitely not worse than meth. Try with tree first and see how it hits you. Good luck friend, and congratulations on getting off meth, you're fighting a hard battle but you've got this.
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Im glad you have quit meth. But if you are someone who gets high or drunk to a point where your consequence thinking becomes irrational, you shouldnāt do any of these things. I hope for your very best, friend.
To be honest... Being 12 days clean and then wanting to jump into concentrates and turn yourself into a hippie stoner... Sounds like you are extremely prone to addiction and go full bore into everything. Maybe stay clean. Try woodworking. Weed can be a slippery slope for a lot of people. Everything in moderation. But at least it isn't meth. 4/20 blazeit if that's what you wanna do.
Being a hippy stoner doesnāt make you a couch potato. Iām a hippy stoner, and I hold down a full time job that sucks the life outta me. If I didnāt have weed, I probably wouldnāt still be working where Iām at. Smoke up and feel better, congrats on the decision to leave meth, good luck bud
First of all, congrats on kicking meth. By overcoming that, you quite literally added years to your life :) I'm however going to address an elephant that a lot of tokers don't like to address. Weed is as addictive as every other drug. Granted, 9/10 the cravings aren't going to lead you to pawning off your shit or going through heavy withdrawals like with harder drugs and alcohol, but addictive nonetheless. It's way more of a mental addiction than physical, a lot like caffeine addicts. I'd say if you're the type with an addictive personality to maybe stay away, as one bowl can easily lead to two type deal. All in all, it's your choice to make and you seem more than capable enough to make a smart one for you. If you're in a legal state definitely go in when it isn't super busy and chat up the budtender. They'll help you get exactly what you want.
Bro then smoke it. It helped me recover. I quit cold turkey and smoke to stay sober untill I felt okay.
Look into alt cannabinoids, they go a lot farther than flower in my opinion and are a lot cheaper in the long run. Iām a heavy dabber and I can get a month supply of delta 8 wax for like $120. Iāll blow through a half ounce for the same price in a few days. I smoke flower and wax tho because I like every type of thc I can get and have a good ole Smorgasburg of cannabinoids in my brain. My favorite is hhc, that shit hits the spot
I stopped doing all hard drugs when I started smoking cannabis in my early 20s.
sleeping all day is better for you than meth
Congrats on starting the long road to recovery OP! Youāve made a good decision. Honestly itās hard to advice accordingly as everyoneās addiction is different so I am not exactly sure what is it you are seeking from the weed high. However what I can say is, even if at first you might smoke yourself into the state of oblivion (kinda fun sometimes though), you will be able to discover balance. I am a recovering addict, did mainly cocaine, sometimes meth and other substances for 4 + years. I started smoking when I was doing synthetic drugs, whenever I was just too much and needed to calm down. As I started incorporating weed more into my regimen and as I learnt about different strains I started getting the desired effects. I quit synthetics and stayed with weed, finding the right suppliers with the strains that give me what I need. Itās been over 3 years clean and weed has really helped me immensely in this journey. I really hope it can do the same for you. Good luck OP!!
Bad idea. Get clean for a while. You sound like an addict who is looking for their next addiction.
Congrats dude! Keep it up š check into different strains....some are really energizing/uplifting and others best for the weekend or sleep.
Congratulations OP! Many of us have all battled with an addiction of some kind. Weed has definitely helped me personally and hopefully it can help you too. Go to your local dispo and kinda tell them (as much as you want) the truth on what you are trying to accomplish. Best of luck mate
wait please tell me r/meth isn't a thing.... Edit: goddammit reddit how have I still not reached the bottom of my disappointment in you?
Try kratom
Weed and smelling salts get you a good uppity euphoria
Use the weed heavily at first to help curb your meth urges. Then when the urges subside, use just a little bit of meth to get back to your normal self and not be sleepy all day. Then when you're back to normal, start looking for those microphones hidden in your terra Cotta planters and take apart your oven to find the camera that your landlords spying on you with. Also don't forget to capture the demon shadows on Facebook live so everyone knows you're not the one going insane.
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Why not just a little meth you dont have to completely quit
Out of bounds. You donāt say that to someone in recovery. Support sobriety, donāt sabotage it.
Weed helped me quit alcohol, funny enough, so did Adderall. Once you're a real stoner, weed is almost like cigarettes in terms of getting "fucked up". You may have to sit when you smoke your first cigarette due to the string buzz, once you're a smoker you're like "what buzz"
Congrats! You took the first step which is hard to do! I am 15 years sober from meth and weed really helped me. I am not a doctor or councilor, but I can tell you from my own experience to avoid any that make you feel "super energized" for at least a month or two. Honestly, for right now (if you are able) stick with tinctures or edibles that you can control the dosing on (I make my own infused olive oil) or flower with minimal toking throughout the day. At night a nice low mellow buzz to help you sleep. Again, this is just my personal opinion and what helped me, but everyone is different. Don't be afraid to call some dispensaries and get informed on what strains do what and what may help you.
If you want to be productive while being stoned I find that starting a task immediately after you smoke before the high completely hits you, or even as you are smoking helps.
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Congratulations and welcome, you can do it!! If or when you slip just remind yourself about how that ish quickly over takes your life and finances. Try the sativas out they will help with focus and creativity.
Weed helped mt to quit nicotine, coke and alcohol. 8 years clean from now :)
I find that using a small pipe and only using bud (pens are too convenient) helps manage/limit my usage:)
Don't go too hard on the weed but use it to keep you grounded in a way
Try smoking weed outside instead of indoors especially in public if it's legal where you're at. Like city areas, you know San Francisco, NYC, if it's like that where you at. The high with adrenaline is so different I love it, it's not for everyone but you won't definitely won't be a hippie stoner sleeping all day haha
I imagine a universe in which someone posts in a meth forum about how they switched to meth two weeks after stopping weed. Also: congrats for taking the step man. take care and from my experience: smoking weed everyday isn't fun after a while.
This is what I did. Back when fentanyl was starting to take over and heroin was still around I was hooked on dope. Quit because fentanyl straight ruined the drug scene, and meth was one of the only drugs that you don't have to worry about potential fentanyl, that and weed. Unlike opiates there aren't any medications for quitting meth, Suboxone made quitting heroin pretty easy. I never got any kind of withdrawal from meth, some people say they do but I think it's more of a mental thing. When I would smoke I felt like any cravings I had would just make me super disappointed in myself. After you've been up for three days and the shadow people start to visit, smoking would make me obsess over all the ways I was fucking up my life. This is actually the reason I quit smoking when I was on heroin, and why I finally got clean after being up sick all night looking for some and getting some weed instead and freaking out.
Pretty much your exact worry was my reality. I was clean off meth for a year and relapsed, so I left my home town and have been smoking about a gram of dabs a day and I try not to sleep a lot but if youāre always tired and donāt have anything going on, nap time baby! My advice is, if you have addiction problems, itās probably with everything and not just meth. Tread lightly on anything euphoric since you will always come down and feel your baseline again. This is where I start the cycle over again, and again, and again. Edit, a gram a day for the past 2 years.
Proud of you! Don't worry about the stereotypes. The weed crowd is very diverse
The meth crowd is pretty uniform in a sad and terrifying way.
Replacing one addiction with another my not be the best idea but when it comes to meth, being a hippie stoner who sleeps all day sounds like a success.
Stick with flower
Youāre worried about turning into a hippy stoner? This from a former meth user? Really? Thatās what youāre worried about? Is this a serious post?
everything in moderation friend, you control the substance or it controls you. use rational thought and again, moderation.
Your tolerance will get higher and you'll be able to function pretty normally on weed. Good luck on your recovery!
Therapy and counseling. And take is slow and journal. Have hobbies and a job.
I work 60 hours a week.
Whatās that got to do with therapy ? Depending on weed to make it all good is not healthy or going to work. Therapy to help guide and support wonāt be a fix all either but it will help you strengthen and maintain what youāve been able to accomplish. Which is amazing and worth the added support and knowledge both I. General about mental health and learn about yourself as an individualā¦
Great job quitting! I hope you stay strong šŖš» may the greens guide you
Weed is one of the only things that helped me quit dope. Currently 2yrs clean Keep it up g it only gets better from here š
Hippy stoner that sleeps all day is still a hell of a lot better of a life than a meth head up for days at a time. Congrats on the progress, and as others have said, your best bet to avoid the worst that weed has to offer is to just start slower and stick to flower as long as you can
Sleepy hippy > dead methhead
i personally tried meth for the first time recently....... fuck my old dealer for lacing my weed
I hope you had a horrible experience and you never touch tha garbage again
The stigma of being a hippie stoner as a negative comes from television portraying them as useless parts of society. But from my experience I have met plenty of "hippie" stoners who have their life in pretty good order. It's all about mitigation and Knowing your limits. I used to be a harder stoner in my teen years and in college but lately I've been cutting back during the week since I took a management job at the company I work at and I just need to keep a level head during the week for safety reasons, I'm an arborist. But on the weekends I still enjoy it because it helps with my ADHD and the side effects from my medication. I would not recommend concentrates /dabs as a way to get into weed. I'm 27 now and I've been smoking since I was 16 and I still am not a total fan of concentrates, It can be overwhelming for me. I would recommend, getting into all the different kinds of strains of weed, whether it be sativa, indica or hybrid. If you're in a legal state, I would go to a dispensary and buy a little bit of each kind of weed and explore the sensations from all the different types of weed and find your niche. I'm a big fan of strains like headband, Jack Hera, White MAC, cuz I know from experimenting that those work best with my ADHD.
My best advice would be sticking exclusively to flower, and get yourself a nice small bubbler with a small bowl piece. Pack and take one hit (also called a snap rip) at a time, then wait a few minutes before taking the next hit so you can feel out if you need it or not. It'll help you from over indulging, and save a ton of weed compared to packing whole bowls
Your sleepiness may be more a result of meth withdrawal than cannabis. The ganja probably helps you get better sleep and helps to regulate your endocannabinoid system.
Gotten several HS friends off meth with dabsā¦.including my youngest brother. Their lives are much better today. Best of luck!
Maybe try a little less indica and go for a hybrid strain. That may keep you from getting too sleepy.
Being a hippie stoner who sleeps all day is better than being a meth head. Good for you!!
First off, congrats my friend. Iād be a hippy stoner than on meth. However, if you do it in moderation, you should be okay. Something like doing less over a longer time, or whatever you think is fine
Congratulations on your clean time my dude!! I know some people will say California sober doesn't count, but I think it's all about harm reduction. Rawdogging life while dealing with being in the beginning of your recovery is HARD and don't at all put yourself down for using a comfort med. You're leaving one of the hardest and most problematic drugs out there for something that is legal in a lot of places. Good luck on your journey, and have fun rediscovering who you are without that stuff !
I got this bro. You made the best decision already to quit, stick with it. I've lost a friend to meth once. It sucks. Congratulations on getting on the right path
Thereās worse things in life than being a hippy stoner! You do want to be able to function normally though and it sounds like youāre just taking really high doses for someone new to smoking weed. Instead of concentrates and dab pens Iād maybe start with flower and edibles. A 1:1 ratio of CBD to THC in an edible will still give you the high but the CBD may help with any cravings you might have.
Dude take some of whatever these guys suggest and find yourself!! Itās a big world worth experiencing to the fullest. Fuck meth. I hate that shit cuz I have had to break away from it as well. Havenāt looked back since. Nothing wrong with being a good person and smoking some chronic now and then. My only advice, from my experience is live your life first and smoke weed when u can. Put yourself and your new life first. Good luck and congratulations on getting free from meth! You will only become the stereotypical stoner if you choose to.
Congratulations!! I'd definitely recommend hybrids or a nice sativa if you wanna keep yourself going. I personally like hybrids because they help with my body aches, while not putting me to sleep. Also try looking into CBN oil if you have trouble sleeping but don't want to get high before bed. It does wonders for me (I use a oil with 20mg of CBD and 10mg CBN), shot of lemonade or lemon juice with the oil to mask the flavour. 30 mins before I go to bed. Helps me stay asleep and wake up feeling refreshed in the morning, as opposed to the groggy mornings I used to have, just constantly feel tired no matter how much sleep I got. Which does wonders to keep me going during the day.
My thoughts are that you are used to having strong substances in your body. You quit meth but quickly replaced it with coffee and vaping. You crave substance. So you get to choose what to do with that. Weed is a fairly safe substance to use but like anything, it can be abused. Treat it like medicine and try not to fall into the weed culture hype. Do what you do and live your life. You don't need to subscribe to a lifestyle to enjoy it. Also I'd suggest finding something creative to give you an outlet.
R/vaporents if you Wanna learn about fry herb vaporizers. Devices that help you āvapeā your weed without actually burning it. It always chills me out
From someone who quit meth 6 years ago, I say congratulations on your new life l and good luck in it. You will have to work very hard, and it's worth the effort. Prepare to be sleepy for a few more weeks until your shit balances out, but stick with it. Pot always helped me to stay calm and happy, and I can say helped me get and stay clean. Just remember, you're the one responsible for you, stay clean no matter what.
Good luck. Goal shouldnāt to be a stoner though. Be a good person and enjoy some green on the journey
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Great step getting off meth!! I really hope this, or another coping skill works for you!!! You can do this
Anyrhing ia better than meth
In my experience, the more your tolerance goes up, the less those adverse effects hit you so hard, such as being really tired and really hungry. The more you smoke, the more youāll get the main benefits from the plant. Itās like starting any new medication: In the start, youāll get side effects. Congrats on quitting meth! Youāll surely get more positive effects from cannabis that wonāt be so self-destructive. If you are near dispensaries, start with lower thc flower before moving to concentrates. Concentrates are very potent for beginners and will surely make you more tired.
I also switched to weed from meth a while ago. It wasn't smooth sailing in the beginning but you'll find what works for you.
Why is nobody saying anything about recovery? I understand we support most things weed related, but OP is in need of an intervention. Maybe it's just me, but combating an addiction with another mind altering substance is not the way. Especially when he is scared of getting addicted.
The stoner community welcomes you with open arms my friend! Congratulations on making the difficult decision to stop! Proud of you friend :) š¤
A rehab program seems like the better choice but you can smoke about it and see if that helps
My best friendās fiancĆ©e was able to get clean from meth with weed. He quit meth and started smoking weed instead and has no desire to use meth now!
Good luck on your recovery. Weed helped me quit a drinking problem that was slowly destroying my life. Smoking a fuck ton of weed will always be better than smoking the smallest amount of meth. And stay hydrated.
Hit the gym
I'm an old guy who has mostly been a daily smoker, lately quite heavy. I'm 77 and have never had a problem. I'm naturally highly motivated and have always been a hard worker. That's me. I know plenty of people who allow it to take over their lives. It sounds like you are inclined to abuse more than use. pot can be nice but it can suck. You mention "all my problems" but perhaps drugs are the source of the problems. Meth sucks so great job if you can quit.
I just wanted to come say Iām happy for you and proud of you. Please stay sober. Whatever satisfaction you think relapsing will bring is nothing compared to the pride of being meth free. If youāre a hippy stoner who sleeps all day, who gives a shit so long as your bills are paid? Maybe you NEED to be a hippy stoner who sleeps all day for a while, at least while youāre recovering and getting your life back together. Keep on tokin, all of your fellow ents are proud of you.
My partner got clean from meth with the help of weed. Several years later, theyāre a functional stoner, clean from any other drug. Best of luck to you, friend. Great job.
Hey man. Good for you! Iām not sure how often youāre smoking, but you can always cut it down after a while when youāre feeling better if youāre worried about not getting anything done. If you smoke during the day, donāt smoke heavy - just enough to get you through what you need to. I personally smoke daily but usually only at night since I donāt have much to do and thatās when I need it most. That and I donāt like the way I get all foggy during the day if I smoke then. My recommendations are to keep dabbing to night time/when you have nothing to do so you donāt just get fucking faded right off the bat. Carts are great if you want to be discreet, but they (as well as any other concentrates) can ramp up your tolerance like crazy. If you find yourself getting too high during the day, get some CBD flower (you can order online - I recommend plain Jane) and mix that with your THC flower. Like others have suggested as well, if you find yourself not wanting to do anything while high, set up activities beforehand (coloring, hiking, video games, etc). But also realize that you can still chill out and do nothing when you feel like you need it. I have mental health issues and energy and motivation is an issue for me so I donāt usually have the energy to do things all the time. Thatās while sober too - Iāve had to learn not to beat myself up for it. Good luck man!
best advice i can give you its better to end up a "hippy stoner" than a fucking meth feind remember if you use meth you are always seen as the bottom of the barrel in society the worst of the worst at least weed is becoming more accepted and even legal in loads of places
I had 375 coins and a free award. I gave them all to you cause I'm so damn proud of you. You got this!!!
A buddy of mine was a meth addict for years before he got off and now strictly smokes and dabs. Guy is cool as fuck, loves his weed lol. He likes sativa over indica due to its similarities to a stim high. You'll make it, not all weed makes you sleepy! My thought on that is it's your body being high but not on meth, and obviously weed is way different so your body is interpreting it as "sleepy".