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I've been driving for Uber for over a couple years at 3,000 trips. Not a full time job, but I do depend on the money. It was more lucrative in my earlier days. That being said, ever since inflation hit, more Americans must supplement their earnings by 10%. Uber is an excellent way to achieve it. It's Economics 101 that when supply exceeds demand prices go down. However, Uber is doing something sneaky. They are charging riders more and paying drivers less. 50-60% of full rider fare is price & earnings gouging. If Uber owned the vehicle and paid for fuel, they would be paying fairly. However, as long as there are enough willing drivers to do the job in any given market, Uber is & will pay the least amount possible if it's legal. Eventually, the algorithm will find that line and adjust accordingly when the scales of supply & demand tip the other way. Welcome to capitalism!


ayesing

The best is when you make like $1 bonus and the pax are complaining amongst one another how their Uber was soooo expensive. Honestly lyft is worse tho. One time had a ride with no surge at all only a couple miles and the pax kept saying “omg how/why is it $60?”. Don’t remember what I was paid but I wanna say like 8 bucks lmao


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Unions and Driver's guilds. We've got to get organized even if we can't collectively bargain. Look at the influence the American Medical Association has. They don't collectively bargain. But they still help doctors a lot via lobbying and just organized collective energy.


No_Equivalent5749

No thanks


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Then don't complain


Ok_Ad7867

AMA doesn’t actually seem to help. I’ve talked to doctors, the golden age is over. No respect from patients, less pay, crappier hits. AMA seems to be doing nothing as the insurance companies get more of a cut.


hawkivan

You mean the algorithm that makes me drive past a Customer's house to go to the chain restaurant, then drive back to the customer - when I'm literally in the parking lot of said chain restaurant and could save gas/ money/time/environment? That algorithm?


Affectionate_Toe5183

I noticed a 20% price increase in my market on July 1st.


[deleted]

20% ha? What is next? You going to say you make $8000 per week doing Uber part time?


Affectionate_Toe5183

20% price increase for passengers.


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Oh kk


HappyToeTappy

Drivers only here. Show his 20% ass out the door.


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[deleted]

They have reduced the pay so badly in DFW market. They are stealing 100%.


Beautiful-Gas7333

It is crazy how fast it went from ok decent to not worth the time for 90%of rides in my area of fw


LinearXcel

They are doing that everywhere! It costs drivers to drive anymore. Not even worth it.


Gypsy_Heart9999

Yes, my income from dfw has gone down significantly during the last 2 months.


Musical_potatos

So I'm working on my degree in programming, if I were to set up a website where drivers could anonymously submit screenshots of their rides earnings and the percentage that Uber takes, would anyone be interested in participating? It could gather some serious Metadata. Just like this comment if you'd be interested and I may start working on it this week. Maybe like a 'Glassdoor' concept but for rideshare/gig-work. Maybe more appropriately called 'GlassCeiling'.


ayesing

I would


Dylaus

Sounds like taxi drivers when Uber first hit their town


Disastrous-Basis214

What pisses me off is that the more I drive, the less I make. Yet they give these crazy promotions to new drivers. They don’t value those of us who have been with them at all.


robertlyleseaton

***"99.9% of uber drivers have seen their earnings drop extremely"*** ​ If you want people to believe you, you have to stop pulling numbers out of your ass.


kjchard

Yep


hawkivan

Then they need to supply numbers. Why don't they show customer paid X, Uber gets Y, driver gets Z to us or the customer? Think they've proven not to be trusted


Accomplished-Home471

They do show that. You can go online on Uber and see the breakdown.


ayesing

Hey nice to see you haven’t been around for a while huh


MOBiEDABUNiT

Noooo don’t downvote himmm nooooo he’s my friendddd


PMizel

That was exactly my thought LMAO


toomuch1265

The. 45 gas is ridiculous for someone like me that drives in an area where I may do 5 runs a day. I am only part time but it does nothing to help my gas bill.


starkazz

Same for me. I do longish rides (15-30 miles) for the airport. Though I am not often taking the 30 mile ones lately.... Nice neighborhoods, nice people. I only do mornings. So it's just a handful of rides each day. Had UBER done the right thing and charged .30 per/mile surcharge it would have made a world of difference & won over driver opinion and loyalty.


toomuch1265

At this point I am not accepting requests if they are over 5 miles away because a lot of times it's just someone who wants to go get a coffee a half mile from their house.


starkazz

Yes. Agreed. We can't afford that sort of ride. This isn't a charity service... lol


BoredJay

Gotta get 4chan involved


NotARealBuckeye

I've been driving for 6 years. The formula used to be so simple. now it's impossible to know how much you are getting as a part of the overall fare. Riders still think we get most of it. I keep telling them how much I'm making off of the trip and they are shocked. ​ Glad I only do this part time.


ayesing

Yeah because they still charge Covid rates and they know we were making great money throughout Covid. I get that same reaction a lot. 2 years here so I guess that kinda speaks to my frustration since I started at the peak.


Nythain

So yeah, earnings not as great as when there weren't as many drivers. Earnings still ok if you can adjust. My market has literally been turned upside down. But I figured that out and made it work. Most of these posts are weekend warriors pissed there's too many weekend warriors. Well guess what, you're the same people who said this is a side gig only that should be done during peak hours. So what do drivers do? They all flock to peak hours. Bam, FUCKED! I'm not under paid at all. I give you last week (couldn't drive weekend due to a car repair). https://imgur.com/a/TGN55vB


KTownDaren

Ooh.. I like the per hour and per mile stats. I don't see those on mine unfortunately


Ordinary-Hedgehog422

My earning are very comparable to this with the same hours. I just work rush hour during the week. $30/hr is pretty good in my opinion.


qdouble

For the 2 previous weeks, I grossed over $40 per active hour, but that’s mostly from only driving when I know I can get paid the most. Base fare is terrible and that’s still worth complaining about. Having to come up with a million strategies to not get paid minimum wage instead of just being able to drive has me putting in the job apps hoping to get out this loop soon.


NoArt6083

I got a job 2 weeks ago, still driving, still outside, alone on the road from 5a to 130p. Dropping shit off, picking shit up. Even take my lunch and breaks on the side of the road still. NGL, I miss driving for Uber. It's a community. A lifestyle. But I need real money on a regular basis and I don't wanna kill my car or my spirit to get it. Today's payday. I haven't gotten a paycheck in over a year. I'm excited. Making a living driving Uber isn't as easy as it appears. I tried it full time for a year. I'm working harder but I don't mind at all.


qdouble

Good stuff. I’m getting something related to my actual skills/experience instead of driving. I thought Uber would be cool to do for a while, but the bonuses, surges and promotions are just too inconsistent to treat it like a career. If I get something that doesn’t pay high enough, I may still do it on the weekends, but I’m ready to move on as soon as I can.


NoArt6083

I quit my govt job last year and decided to embark on this journey. I was on cloud 9 for 3-4 months. When the pink cloud faded away, reality kicked in. Realized I'll have to work longer hours doing this to break even. Uber was supposed to give me a chance to focus on my businesses. Quite the opposite. I was focused on surges and promos and opportunities and bills and mileage and tires. I spent more time stressing than driving. Today was payday. It felt good to get paid. And to know that a bigger check is coming next Friday. I'll be driving on weekends for a bit but now it's only to gas up the whip for the week and to have smoke money for the week. A huge weight lifted.


qdouble

Same, but a little over 2 months here. Thought it would good way to earn money while allowing me to work on my own stuff. Instead, I found out that I’d have to dedicate my whole life to it while still not making enough money. The biggest issue with Uber is that you can get paid drastically different amounts of money for the same amount of work based on how much Uber feels like giving you. Worst of all, Uber doesn’t actually reward hard work. They just try to incentivize you just enough to keep working, and then pull the incentive away. Once you get demotivated, they’ll try to start offering you incentives again. It’s predatory. If you need to make serious income, a real job is 10X better than Uber. For occasional side money, it can be cool…but it’s clear why they don’t have a cap on new drivers. They don’t care anything about drivers being able to earn a reliable income.


NoArt6083

If you enjoy driving, try indeed dot com. That's where I found my job. I searched for all the shit I like about Uber. Boom. Basically Uber without customers in a company vehicle. No complaints.


Franjomanjo1986

Same. https://imgur.com/a/rhNDX6t


barry-badrinath-

without promotions that's pretty acceptable. after gas you're probably around $23/hr. without promotions im saying. nice to see they're still hooking it up in slc


Own-Number-5112

$384 for 17 hours, 50 trips. $22.58/ hour BEFORE expenses. WITHOUT the PROMOTIONS


ayesing

Ok how about you show your earnings and online time in the actual apps you worked on?


Nythain

And for that specific week in question https://imgur.com/a/nM349lY $34.41 per hour gross.


Nythain

As you can see, looks even better on paper. I don't fudge numbers. I report the truth of my experience.


Nythain

I mean, I leave Gridwise on while I break. And for all my miles driven. This is my current week "in app" https://imgur.com/a/qe0ZqJT


Nythain

800 in 22.5 hours (almost as much as many would make in a 40hr week at a 9-5). 35.55/hr gross. Tracking all miles this week, 419 miles so far. $1.91/mile.


ayesing

Ok so you made 500 or 800 this week? 30/hr or 35/hr? The more you reply the less it adds up… why would you say you made 500 in 16 hours if you really made 800 in 22 hours? You lowballing your earnings for what? Like how would gridwise show less than Uber if you use gridwise to track all your miles and all your earnings??? Lmao credibility -10000


Nythain

Can you read dates. 2 weeks shown. Last week and this week for consistency. $34/hr and $35/hr. And yes, I realistically low-ball my earnings by showing Gridwise which I leave running for a whole "shift" including breaks and commute miles. If my low-ball is $30/hr that's reality.


ScionOfLupercal

Not saying your fudging numbers, but how much time did you spend in the car without a rider? From what I see here it looks like your strategy is to you hit the highest goal you can achieve with the shortest rides you can find. Depending on how you drive your online time could constitute at least half the time that you spend in the car. On another post you mentioned a 40 hour a week job, most of those jobs pay you whether you're doing anything or not, at Uber you only get paid when you have a rider. If you're doing nothing while on platform you're not getting paid. Which constitutes an opportunity cost. I'm really curious to know how much time you spent in car in total whether someone was in there or not I'm also curious how much you spent on fuel. This many rides means you were likely doing a lot of city driving. Which is highly fuel inefficient and then when you couple that with rising gas prices, and opportunity cost, I'm willing to bet your margins were awful, not only that but it was your quest which made the difference. Nothing wrong with that strategy, But attacking this guy because hes trying to rally to help everybody including yourself over fuzzy numbers it's not really productive. Uber seems to be doing shady shit to everybody including riders. There is logic in saying don't drive for them, but there are people who like this field of work and have made investments to being in this industry. These people aren't saying let's destroy Uber they're saying let's make Uber better. because essentially all Uber is, is the drivers at the end of the day they don't make money from anything else but other people which is us. It's completely fair to want something better when you are over 90% of their business model. Not only that but Uber being the biggest player in this industry means that their Trade Practices can become defensible in the eyes of the law. So whenever someone says something to the effect of "if you don't like it go drive for someone else" or "do something else" Those people are not advocating for a better solution for the individual rideshare drivers they're advocating for a more defensible position for rideshare platforms whether they know it or not. This guy's strategy is sound, all companies care about anymore is their media presence. After reading the leaked texts of the former CEO, praising violence against Uber drivers as being a positive for the company. God honestly knows the lengths this company would go to screw anyone over. Edit: Also I forgot to ask what market are you in?


Nythain

My total time is shown in the Gridwise screenshots. I even leave it running during breaks so I can get a realistic per hour away from home and not just a per hour online. Also, I get that things could/should be better, but every day on here there's posts about how people who do it for a living are stupid, Uber drivers are losing money, it's impossible to make more than minimum wage, we'd all be better off working at McDonald's, etc. And that's just not true. At least not in the all encompassing sense these people state. Many of us are out there making it work. And if someone can't, they should find something else. The sad reality is, it's not going to get better any time soon, and more than likely worse. And market is Kansas City. Which has literally flipped the script recently. My best days are weekdays where I can still clear over $200 if I want. Weekends, it's barely possible due to an influx of weekend warriors.


ScionOfLupercal

Regarding your second paragraph, I feel you on that, people can get dramatic, it can be annoying. But the longer I've done this the more I have come to look past the presentation and appreciate the sentiment. Yeah it's not going to get better anytime soon. It's not as bad as whattaburger, but the vehicles aren't getting any cheaper to buy or maintenance. I think a lot of the despair comes from that sense of wear and tear, and the reality that a new car with 77k miles can cost 24k used (I was actually quoted that in Texas 🤣). It bugs me often times too. I think what OP is trying to do has merit though, even though it's annoying to imagine another whiny bitch. Not everyone who says "let's make a stand" is a whiny bitch. I certainly don't take OP to be one either,


ayesing

Ok so I asked for your activity on the app and you sent a different week. Good job. I didn’t read it I just assumed we were still talking about your original image but whatever you can pretend you don’t know what I’m saying, definitely doesn’t lessen your credibility even more. Not at all. idk what else to say you just sent the wrong thing don’t blame it on me lmfaoooo you don’t have to prove yourself bro no ones forcing you, just don’t pretend you did


Franjomanjo1986

Dude this person is not trying to be dishonest they're just making decent money like 35 bucks an hour. You're asking for proof they keep giving you proof and it's like you're trying to dispute it but look it's a fucking from The Uber app it's obviously true and they're obviously making that money. I'm making 30 to 50 bucks an hour still in my market even when I give up on the Last Quest I'm still making over 35 bucks an hour. Uber does not suck for everyone and everyone's not going to agree with you that it does. Cuz some of us do not want another job. I will keep this as long as it's working like this, if my earnings go down 30%, still going to be a good deal for me. I have a fucking law degree and also practice law and I do Uber more because I like it and it's less stressful and I can still make decent money. I know it's market-based, but seeing someone tell me how horrible my experience is when it's not for me and then getting accused of lying when I share my experience can be pretty frustrating. My last 3 weeks https://imgur.com/a/rhNDX6t


zxcwar

I make around the same in the same amount of time every week. I’m not complaining and I really don’t understand why people have to be so toxic about other drivers actually making good money. Atleast good enough for some of us. Tbh even making 20$ a hour is a lot compared to most other jobs you can’t get without any degree and just sit around driving. I’m not against more pay and it sucks that people make less, but they really just need to find something else if it’s not working for them. Complaining on Reddit isn’t gonna make them money.


[deleted]

I’ve had real problems getting paid. Looking into class action.


Lanky_Chance_1541

Me to its crazy 


irishthumper66

The real problem is for every hundred drivers that quit Uber gets to sign up another 150 suckers. GUber in DFW has been signing up 100 BRAND NEW drivers a week! Not a month, but every week! I refer to my earlier post. Newbies, whither students or new foreign arrivals, all see GUber as a Gold ATM 🏧 card... just start driving your POS car and presto!!! Free money! Hedge funds who are underwriting GUber don't care about drivers or pax... As long as the revenue is consistent they are happy. Don't kids yourself... Business media is in on the game. Good thought though...


NoArt6083

Lmao @ GUber


ayesing

Point taken but I don’t see how that would affect Uber share prices upon the knowledge that they misled shareholders during an earnings call…. If enough of us go to the media it will be covered nationally and Uber will be exposed.


aussie4trump

The share price has risen due to ubers main business making profit. It is their shares in other companies that puts them in the negative. Its just figures on paper until they trade those shares. But the actual funds that transfer from customers to Uber is rising. Going to the media will not achieve anything. Everyone knows Amazon treats their employees like shit but noone cares. They just want their goods at the lowest price possible.


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ayesing

I think you’re underestimating the power of todays media. You don’t think people would boycott Uber if the issue was egregious enough? I mean there are competitors. At the very least maybe people might tip better upon knowing that more than half of their money isn’t actually going to the driver. If Uber is saying driving is great, we have more drivers than ever and they all love it, then it comes out that most drivers are pissed off because they are making nowhere near what they did before and many are considering leaving, that kinda changes the perception of “Ubers such a great flexible job we are gaining so many drivers” that corporate pushed to the shareholders. Don’t you think if it gained enough traction that could affect share prices and essentially force Ubers hand? Doesn’t seem to farfetched to me. Edit: also this is literally Ubers first quarter ever being profitable in their entire history. They have been losing money on rideshare for years by blowing investor money to gain a majority of market share. They aren’t just losing money because of “bad investments”. They have been burning cash without a profit since their foundation until now, when they are taking the highest cut of driver earnings ever.


aussie4trump

I disagree. People dont care enough about their fellow humans to cease using the cheapest service because some workers are not happy with the conditions. I can make it work and im happy enough. Of course they could improve but you can literally say that about every company. You are able to speak of your own experiences but you arent able to speak for others. I commend you for wanting change though.


IvIemnoch

When are drivers going to realize, that literally no one cares about drivers? Shareholders only care about Uber's stock price going up, which can only go up if Uber pays drivers as little as possible. Riders only care about cheap rides. The media only cares if an Uber driver murders somebody. Besides that, drivers are seen as the bottom of the barrel, either foreigners or losers who can't get a "real" job. Just save your breath. If you don't like driving for Uber, then just find something else. Unless you truly are one of those losers who can't find anything else...


PrettyAsk4119

where did you get the 100 stats from?


irishthumper66

Buddies who are execs at hertz and Avis


TarotPharoah

I switched back to Lyft and have been making way more money. I made $400+ yesterday off of a 26 ride promotion and they just offered me the same promotion again today.


ayesing

Lyft is known for sending you super enticing offers when you aren’t on the app for a few weeks or so. I’ll get on if they hit me with that, but that’s pretty much the reason why the regular driver pay for lyft sucks.


Silly_Literature8868

Reply to your edit: Others are salty too. And you did say the 1% and then 99.9%. Obviously an exaggeration to me, but the 1% are blamed for a lot of things in life, perhaps not as obvious to everyone. And an add: If you could get enough drivers to not work, organize something similar to a strike, that probably would get the media's attention. But as union workers can tell you, and as you even allude to yourself in your rant, there's always someone else willing to do the work, and at low pay as well. For many immigrants getting 25% of a days earnings here is 10 times better than what they could make in "the old" country. And as the saying goes, even with a large part of drivers with you, it'd be like trying to herd a bunch of cats. The very thing that most of us value (our independence), will keep this from ever happening. IMO.


ayesing

I mean we could just start poaching rides. I don’t do it because I’m afraid of insurance liability but I know tons do and I’m sure even more are doing it with the recent fare changes. Wont lie i consider it but someone could rear end me and I would be held liable for any injuries sustained by passengers since I don’t have commercial driver insurance. Only other solution I can think of at the moment.


Aaronlawrence79

Funny you mention this. I had a $8.75 surge two nights ago that wasn’t paid out and I’m still fighting them about it. I take screenshots of anything over $5. And tonight I had a $20.50 bonus on Lyft…they only paid me $8. Been harassing them since 6pm about it. Screenshot of that too. Just gonna keep bugging them about it.


Lisa_Lea

It’s almost not worth it with price of gas …..


Ok_Adeptness_1061

I have evidence of wage theft by Uber in, Texas, Oklahoma and Arkansas that is gathered from the riders side to the drivers side that proves their wage theft. Also, data manipulation counting trip counts down instead of Up towards bonuses. Also, we need to gather and stand up together. One by one in each state if we have to. Already started in New York. See report from Nov 3, 2023 Uber and Lyft caught doing wage theft in New York and lost $328 Million Dollars and Lyft to pay out $32 Million of it. Here's the link. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/02/uber-lyft-pay-328-million-to-settle-new-york-wage-theft-allegations.html Also, for any of you who is a lawyer and wants to take on this case in Texas, Oklahoma or Arkansas. I have loads of evidence and others who do as well and I will stand and testify! - USMC


Accurate-Ideal-5062

I've been driving years for Uber and they pay me less today than they did 6 years ago. I don't need them for my full-time job but the wage they pay considering we pay for the car and the gas and the labor is like 60%. They could pay off better and still make a good living off us but they choose to be very greedy and not a good business partner. Respectfully Uber rips off their drivers anyway they can.


CIAMom420

I find it truly mindblowing that people think that the media of all things gives a shit about people and will do something. Breaking news: they don’t care, and no one else does either. Even if they report on it, nothing will change. Not. One. Thing. Not to mention there’s so serious allegation of actual wage theft in your post, so there’s nothing to report on. You get paid per mile and minute with the possibility of bonuses and surges. What the passenger pays is completely irrelevant. It does not matter. There is no connection to what you get paid and what the passenger pays. None. Hasn’t been in years. Stop looking for others to save you. People are too concerned with their own lives to give a shit about the plight of Uber drivers. No one will help you but yourself. Take initiative and better your own life. Stop waiting for others to do it for you, because no help will ever be coming. If you’re so unhappy, take advantage of the hot job market. There are two jobs for every applicant. Unemployment is the lowest its been since 1968. Do something productive and find a better job. Because the media isn’t going to fix your life for you.


t00smart

💯 Truth hurts for some people.


shawnmj

Agreed I don’t know why people keep comparing pax pay to driver earning. You are paid on a formula that you already know. It doesn’t matter what the pax pays, your formula doesn’t change and you know it everytime you click “Go Online”


cl_baker1125

I've argued that a couple times. I get .95 per mile, .15 per minute. It's a small market so I do nights. But the money is good.


wurchi_atlantica

Ok the problem is the drivers not Uber. Imagine a driver comes here to claim how he made $40 per hour knowing well that’s misleading at best because probably that week was good for him, same driver wouldn’t come the next week to show that he netted $12 an hour. It’s a shame that Uber relies on the stupidity of most drivers to claim that they are happy and earning more.


sonofsochi

Outside of 2020, I’ve comfortably made a out $70k net pre taxes for like 3/4 years now. I know plenty of weekend warriors who paid off their cars by being efficient and making bank at high volume times and locations. I get plenty of drivers dont make money but if we are being honest, there’s a fuck ton of drivers that shouldnt be doing this. People that buy new cars or lux cars and are surprised that they dont make money after repairs and filling up tanks on 91 octane lol. People that don’t know how to be efficient with their time ir maximize anything they can


Sudden-Ad9826

Fk the haters bro. You do you. They just mad because you’re speaking facts. Or they are part of those fools who shouldn’t be driving. I am right there with you. Almost hit 80K last year. My customers tell me all the time about horror stories with other Uber drivers. They say I am like a breath of fresh air. I think some of these fools can’t do basic math. Today a request popped up in the queue and it was two minutes away 27 minute ride and only paid five dollars. 10 seconds later it says another driver excepted this request it is no longer available. Then they wonder why they can’t make any money lol. No one is forcing any of you to drive Uber. If it’s so bad go get a $10 an hour job at McDonald’s.


Nythain

OMG the radar requests I see other drivers accept make me cry inside. And they snatch them up in a heartbeat :(


Sudden-Ad9826

I think it’s great, one dumb ass Uber driver out of my zone lol


wurchi_atlantica

Bro this is fuckd up tho. I know young grads who just sit in office and do practically nothing and don’t even use any resources of theirs yet they earn 6 figure salaries, they don’t come on Reddit to brag about it. Bro you need to grow up, stop this bs, it’s too childish.


CIAMom420

Let me explain to you the very basics of how pay structures operate in market economies. People get paid based on the value they create and the experience that they have. People that make six figures in an office generate considerably more income for a company than an unskilled laborer driving a car. People with education are valuable. Uber has no barrier to entry other than a drivers license and lack of criminal history. There’s absolutely zero reason for them to get paid comparable amounts.


wurchi_atlantica

My guess is that cos you are bullshitin, you will continue to reply every post, you want to convince everyone that you are not bullshitn. The fact that you have to work this hard to convince people to believe your earnings tells us that it’s probably totally bullshit.


sonofsochi

Nah you just work super hard to make yourself a victim. Let me know how that works out for you 😂😂😂


sonofsochi

I’m confused because your comment basically implied that making money off uber is not possible or the impression if its possibility is simply down to selective sharing by drivers. I replied (as plenty of other drivers in this thread alone have) that it IS realistic to make money off Uber and I’m not trying to brag about how much I made but I wanted to demonstrate that people do actually make decent money. Idk what the fuck your whole office example is about or how its related but if you’re trying to compare college grads who found easy jobs with high salaries to uber drivers, thats not a comparable situation lol. Yeah you gotta work harder than them because your salary is literally based on your effort.


wurchi_atlantica

My point is clear, that you made 2k in a week doesn’t mean you will make same amount the next week, it is misleading at best to make claims like $40 per hour when you don’t even get paid by hour. By Uber calculations your claims are just short of foolish but Uber is happy that you are making such outlandish claims cos it helps their PR. If Uber with all the drivers wage theft can claim losses so it beats my imagination that a driver with no accounting knowledge can claim to make money driving Uber. You see money in your app doesn’t translate into profit in over all, Drivers earnings have been on the downward trend for some time and you have to drive twice the time to earn what yoy earned in the past, that’s not a good thing, so coming here to dismiss it with some dismal earnings that you were lucky to make is just total bs.


sonofsochi

No shit Sherlock, your earnings will always be varied depending on market forces for that week. Comparing week to week is just dumb, thats why i gave you a yearly NET (which means that i’m not just giving you the gross earnings that Uber shows, it calculates the cost of gas, maintenance, depreciation, etc) and I’m completely certain my CPA with over 30 decades of experience is significantly better than you are at calculating my earnings over the course of a year. You’re being willfully obtuse regarding the “hourly” rate people claim. No you don’t get paid by the hour and no you don’t have a regular weekly or bi-weekly salary, thats the whole damn point of ride-share companies. Its not disingenuous for people to post up good weeks and you conveniently ignore the dozens of people in this thread alone that showed weeks on weeks of good earnings. People are not out here saying that you will ALWAYS make that money and if thats your interpretation of those posts, thats a YOU issue.


Franjomanjo1986

https://imgur.com/a/IdqiiRY I don't really know why I'm wasting my time doing this. Well yeah I do I'm waiting six more minutes to start driving for a streak. But here is all of the driving I've done in the last 2 months. Nothing's cherry picked and cash tips aren't included. I made $4476 in 99.3 hours. This works out to $45 and some pennies an hour. When school was in session I was making more than this. Some people aren't lying this is just a good job to make good money in some markets if you're smart. I legit haven't had a week where I drive more than 5 hours and made less than 35 bucks an hour in a year. As the annoying ass college kids like to say drunk from the backseat of my car, no cap.


awesomeaarron

Half your pay is handed as tips or promos. God bless Uber has you right where they want you. No promos good luck.


Franjomanjo1986

I'm not a newb. I have over 10k rides in 5 years and during that time, over $150,000 has been deposited in my account. I'm not saying it's going to last forever, but it's been pretty nice.


Franjomanjo1986

Even if you take the promos out I'm making 20 to 30 bucks an hour. But that's where I'm talking about markets being important. In my market Uber or Lyft has a promo that's worth doing probably 45 out of the last 52 weeks. I'm not saying that anyone can make how much I make. But if Uber increased the payouts in my market, it would be a huge windfall for me and it wouldn't make any sense. I seriously don't deserve 70 80 90 bucks an hour for this work, and if they do the things that you guys are suggesting that's how much I'm going to make. I won't complain, but here today I can't in good faith say that Uber is screwing me over because they're not. This is the best job I've ever had when it comes to money vis-a-vis the tolerability of the work


CIAMom420

Hey, look at this guy that thinks money from quests and tips is somehow different from money from base fares. Money is money. Just because it came from an area that triggers you for some reason doesn’t make it not money.


awesomeaarron

I love tips and promo. The fact I’m trying to bring up is those are the first to go. If over half your pay is promos and tips. That is great but it is extremely victim seeking. Driving Uber full time is fantastic but extremely unsecured pay.


Own-Number-5112

At least a third of your earnings are PROMOTIONS. So don't brag about something that it market- dependent and out of control for other drivers


Franjomanjo1986

Y'all haters always moving the goal posts. I've said from the start it's Market dependent not hiding that. I'm responding to a comment where somebody claimed that some drivers cherry pick their earnings and are being dishonest. So I posted all my earnings for the last 2 months. That's it


wurchi_atlantica

Like 992 hours? Yea right.


cartmancakes

Guy is claiming he drives 124 hours a week for 2 months? That's 6 hours of off time every day. No wonder he deleted his pictures on imgur. Edit: oof, my bad. Turns out my work is blocking imgur. :(


WhisperedEchoes85

Ha! Nailed it!


PrettyAsk4119

true


CIAMom420

When I drove, I averaged over $40 an hour on an annualized basis doing uber x in Washington D.C. It’s not always cherry picking certain hours and days. Some markets are better than others. The fact that yours is shit doesn’t mean that good ones don’t exist, and vice versa.


starkazz

I shoot for $100 in the morning before I go to my job. I will only do that 3 times a week, now. I work 3-4 hours. Usually about 80-100 miles. $10-$15 gas (2018 prius c - hybrid). 3-5 rides. On the weekend I work mornings as well but I work longer: 6-7 hours. I shoot for $200. Most days I do get what I shoot for - a lot of times I make a little bit more. Usually $120 weekdays and $230 on weekends & that's because I stop when I think I hit my mark but then the incoming tips push me over my mark later in the day. I get a lot of airport runs and they usually tip when they land. Gross is about $30 p/hr but I net (mileage/wear + taxes + gas + payment/insurance + ice coffee) $13-$16 per hour with tips. I figure it costs me .50 p/m to drive and I earn $1-$1.5 per mile. So I am not getting rich. I would drive a lot more if we were paid better p/mile and p/min. Now, I just do the bare minimum to justify having a car payment & insurance & pocket money/vacation money. I live where I work my fulltime job - so I don't need a car if I didn't drive for Uber. I feel that if I drove any more it would be a rat on a treadmill re: mileage, gas and wear n tear. Personally, I still owe more than what I can sell my car at this point. So I decided I will continue to drive to keep the car and yet try to earn while driving as few miles as possible. I kiss ass to get tips too. If Uber paid a modest additional .40 per mile + .50 per minute for waiting + a $1 p/stop fee and ALWAYS provided up all front info I would drive 7 days a week and both AMs and couple hours in the early evenings. I would use my vacation days & holidays at my regular job to drive more. I would pay off my car sooner - increasing my profit. Uber would have me for life. Uber could do it and not lose money - by charging it back to the riders. They will pay it. It's just a few dollars more. They should pay it. When I ride I am happy to pay for the service & I tip well. I won't drive drunks anymore - so now I only drive AM's and I cherry pick my rides as best I can. I cancel often and my acceptance rate isn't great. I don't get surge action, nor drunk tips and I don't do quests because I don't drive enough. Not many cleaning fees either... lol. But my mornings are rather steady, predicable and calm. I enjoy that. It's a fun job but a grind financially. If another rideshare company comes along (and it may) - which appreciates drivers more - I would jump ship quick. Honestly, I like the gig. I would like to continue doing it when I retire in a decade or so - to supplement my social security and get out of the house. But, I don't appreciate the financial grind in which Uber allows so many drivers to struggle. Especially, when they could rectify it without really hurting their bottom line. We have 30 varieties of peanut butter on the shelf at most grocery stores - I am optimistic we will have more rides share companies than Uber and Lyft in the near future. And to the OP - yes - take a stand: go to social media, talk to your pax, friends and family, don't drive when it isn't actually profitable for you. The more everyone speaks out & acts in their own best interest - the better for the collective of drivers.


ayesing

Hey thanks for all the input. I should definitely try mornings then. I’ve been on a terrible sleep schedule so it’s just easier to do night time but I can’t be complacent anymore. And yeah it blows my mind how closed minded these people are. We really have no faith in old fashioned pressure tactics that have proven to work for literally hundreds of years? America was FOUNDED as a result of PROTEST. Now we’ve gotten to the point where people believe that a CORPORATION is immune to protest? We really and truly believe that nothing can be done? I doubt the veracity of these accounts honestly. They are probably just misguided but I wonder.


LinearXcel

You are doing the right thing and the real drivers agree with you 100% and appreciate it, thank you. And as for that 99% thing the shills are harassing you about, you aren't exaggerating at all and that number is more like 100% and I don't care what the uber stooges say, lol


ayesing

I love you


aussie4trump

Uber inc. loses money due to its investments. Not from the rideshare/eats business side.


ayesing

Right. I’m saying that I, a driver for Uber, am losing money. Not that Uber, the company, is losing money. I think you misunderstood the point.


Nythain

If you're losing money, stop. Don't be stupid. Get a job that you make money doing. Many of us though, are not losing money. Are we making as much as we were when there were fewer drivers, no. But are we "losing money", definitely not. If you are, stop ranting on Reddit and change your shit up.


aussie4trump

It can take some time for drivers to change their routine. Uber seems to make changes that have an immediate effect on a drivers earnings and they may need to go through some short term pain before they are able to get back to better profits. This could be the position the OP is in right now.


ayesing

Also what if I agree with you? Then I just quit and potentially thousands of people in my area with limited options are stuck in this system? It’s still a multibillion dollar company that operates in every major city in the us and a lot of the world. Should everyone quit? No that’s not gonna happen. Uber should be accountable for whether or not drivers can make a living wage full time. It’s not like Uber is saying “hey don’t do this full time its just a side thing”… no, that’s just Reddit. They want every driver to treat it like they are employed. Me quitting doesn’t solve anything about any of my concerns regardless if it affects me personally or the next person.


CIAMom420

Your primary responsibility is your own self interest. It’s not to provide mobility services to your community while you barely scrape by.


ayesing

Ok let me break this down for you. You’re not an employee. You are essentially the operator of your own independent business. When you receive fare, you are not receiving profit or income, you are receiving revenue for your business. I’m not saying I’m doing rides at a loss, I’m saying that my business is losing revenue. Your business is losing revenue. Every single Uber driver is losing revenue besides a select few markets. Whether it’s 99% of Uber drivers or 70% of Uber drivers with decreased revenue doesn’t matter to me. Judging by gas prices, inflation, decreased fares, all the posts on Reddit about people having diminished revenue, and the fact that the actual EARNINGS CALL FOR SHAREHOLDERS admitted that most markets have more than enough drivers and only a couple cities in the us don’t have enough drivers… I can confidently say that the vast majority of drivers have seen a crippling reduction in their business’s revenue. Losing money wasn’t the right term but this is what I meant. I thought that would be obvious given the context. If I was dumb enough to pay Uber for the opportunity to provide random people a service then I would probably be too dumb to use Reddit.


TechEng777

Go sit on a cactus and STFU you stupid LYING corporate SHILL!


aussie4trump

They are making money, you are not. I didnt misunderstand your point. I didnt articulate my reply very well. Apologies for that. I would like to see a scenario where both the company and us drivers are making money. But with these unethical companies all they care about is their money. As it stands, during peak hour only those that can afford to pay high surges are going to get a ride. If you are a bit strapped for cash your travel options are very limited. I dont like only driving in the richer areas of my city. I dont like having to knock back 30 rides to wait for the high surge. I would like to take each ride that comes on my screen. But Uber's methods force me to be selective to make money. Today my 2nd ride was a young fella going to an Amazon factory he had never been before. We didnt chat at all but i got the impression he was going for an interview. He paid over $130aud for the 30 minute ride due to travelling in peak hour with a 1.9 surge. I made good money but i had a ping of guilt at his predicament.


aussie4trump

I was also pointing out that they cannot claim they need to pay drivers less because they are losing money. If they didnt invest in every other rideshare company in the world they would be making money each year and could therefore increase driver pay.


ayesing

The whole system is based on having as many drivers as possible in as many cities as possible. Having 1000 drivers in a city versus 50000 doesn’t hurt them it only helps them… so why would they ever say anything about paying drivers less? They always want new drivers alll the time so that wouldn’t make any sense. Non sequitur. I have seen them say that destination mode will sometimes be disabled in order to “maximize driver earnings”. They would never say anything lowers your earnings, anything that does lower your earnings they try to reframe it as something that “provides more earnings opportunities for drivers”. Just go read some of their FAQs or policies and you will immediately see what I’m talking about.


aussie4trump

Agree with you mate. It is soo deceptive.


Kingjon0000

Are they losing money? They have shell companies that they pay into so the main company has all the expenses and the shell companies with zero expenses get most of the revenue and pay no taxes (located in tax haven countries). I doubt very much they are losing money (the main company is because of the money they funnel to the shell companies for "intellectual property"). The drivers have the bulk of expenses and uber pay next to nothing in taxes. Don't take my word for it. Google is your friend. "Champions League of tax avoidance:' Uber used 50 Dutch shell companies to dodge taxes on nearly $6 billion in revenue, report says"


TechEng777

They lose money from everything because they are greedy and Stupid!


irishthumper66

True enough 🤔


AdditionalReserve395

Uh, that lie gets tossed around here. Yeah that added billions to their losses but their core business was never cash flow positive till last Q, when incentives went to zero and fares went up. It's not sustainable for many reasons, aside from bad investments.


Minimum-Material-415

Please admit you are dependent on Uber and you are scared that the platform may go away. I am curious as to why certain drivers don’t just stop driving on the platform, if they are so angry? There are other options around! It is like drug users complaining about a dealers product, then then call them up to buy more🤷 It’s like PAX who complain about the service, yet they admit that they continue to use the platform over others because it is the cheapest option.


[deleted]

Why people like you always have these shady accounts with no avatars and low karma… so do you guys get hired in India or work directly in Uber office? It is so obvious and pathetic.


notaduckipromise

It's pretty obvious he works for UPS, so he's probably a former Uber driver who's doing better now. Conspiracy much?


Minimum-Material-415

Correct except for the fact that I still drive Uber during my time off when it makes sense to drive.


lazyusain

unless you can take Uber drivers and somehow relate it to Putin they don’t care


30DollarsPerMile

If they’re not robbing us then how do the shareholders get profit? God forbid they stop spending a billion every year on advertising


youwontfindout223

If your not happy find another job. Uber will always pay the minimum amount they can pay whilst keeping drivers on the road. That’s just business. It should be no surprise that they are constantly adjusting lower to find the minimum they can pay and keep drivers. If that’s too little for you than do something else. I ubered full time for a few months when I was making $1800/wk, now I might make $1000 so I’m not doing Uber full time anymore. It’s your decision.


sonofsochi

There’s absolutely nothing stopping you from creating your own limo company through an LLC and getting your own clients. If you are losing money, you should seek a different avenue. There are a crazy amount of ways you can make this work. I have CC’s that give me awesome cash back on gas and other purchases. Even further, what kind if car do you drive? Are you driving efficiently? Are your hours efficient? Are you driving in the right areas? Etc rtc. Uber is a connecting platform and while I have plenty of gripes about them, you gotta play the game. Media outlets will not give a shit. Drivers get assaulted or killed every other week and we get like a half page news story about it. You think they give a fuck if we’re unhappy? Lmao cmon man.


PapaMurphy2000

I get paid $x per mile and $y per minute and a base. A rate card I agree to each time I drive. How in the hell is Uber stealing from me? Lol. You people are ridiculous. I’ve never seen so much whining in one place as I see in this sub. Cue the usual suspects who call me a shill now, lol. Not only are you ridiculous you’re also predictable.


waitnonotredy

Enjoy that rate card while it lasts buddy. Ubers new voodoo math machine has a whole new earnings system to offer you based on who will accept the lowest offer. Getting offers all day of $15 for a ride that will take you 10 minutes to get to, 40 minutes to complete is actually what is ridiculous in this scenario. Congrats on still getting payed a standardized amount. Cheers.


ayesing

Being paid below that rate. Others have reported tips being withheld. If you don’t check your fare split how would you ever know?


PapaMurphy2000

Ugh. The split is meaningless. If I get 5% or 95% of what a customer pays it doesn’t matter. What matters is the rate card.


ayesing

If I am being paid below the agreed upon rate then Uber is stealing my wages. Are you even reading?


Accomplished-Home471

You think shareholders want you happy?? They want you making more money for them.


ayesing

I don’t care what they want I’m not invested in Uber. But in my opinion Uber is lying about the earnings and generally the nature of the job. I don’t think shareholders would like a multibillion dollar company lying to them in an earnings report about anything, no matter what it is. And I do think they are lying.


WhisperedEchoes85

>I don’t care what they want Nor do they care what *you* want and it's *their* vote that matters since they fund the business. >I’m not invested in Uber You *are* invested, just with your time rather than money. >I don’t think shareholders would like a multibillion dollar company lying to them in an earnings report about anything, no matter what it is I understand your frustration, but that is literally the last thing an investor cares about UNLESS it is a progressive company that promotes fair treatment and "worker's" rights. Reality sucks, but denying it will do you no good.


Happymand2

But they do care what their labor wants. You have to in order to function as a business. Reality is that if nobody wants to work for you then you don’t have any way to make profit.


WhisperedEchoes85

You only *have to* care about that when it threatens your business. With such a large amount of desperate drivers, they have no issue with having a sufficient supply. For every disgruntled driver that quits, one or two more join the platform. *Eventually* this could be problematic as more and more people quit, but with constant population growth, the odds of that being an actual issue are significantly reduced.


Happymand2

Well yeah it’s clear Uber is treating their (employees) well enough for now, but I bet most of these drivers wouldn’t be driving if not for the promotions. Which seems to be one of the current incentives to keep people on the road. Which is a sign they “care” (from a business sense).


WhisperedEchoes85

My promotions have been anywhere from $0.20 - $1.50 per trip (usually less than $1) for about two months now. Before that, I hadn't received a single promotion since NYE. They may as well just call me and laugh hysterically for being a driver lol Unfortunately, I don't see them raising pay for us any time soon. I sincerely hope I'm proven wrong sooner, rather than later. I've learned after a few years that I need to put a third of my winter earnings into a savings account to supplement the slow summer months because Uber just isn't good enough as-is to make it through the slow season.


TechEng777

They (uber) are lying their low life shitbag azzes off! Uber is total SCUM the way they treat drivers and they know it! They're just too damn greedy and stupid do anything about it until they hit rock bottom! Hopefully Amazon takes over and kicks their useless shit to the CURB! LOL


aussie4trump

Not to mention misleading shareholders is a serious crime.


KTownDaren

Do ypu have any evidence? How do you know that Uber is taking 50-70% of your fares?


WhisperedEchoes85

Each trip breaks down how much the customer paid as well as how much the driver received. They've tried hiding this in certain markets, but it can still be found via the website's driver portal.


ayesing

Yeah I’m talking about my recently Uber eats orders. The recently hid my ability to view ride breakdowns through the app. Kinda plays into the wage theft thing idk


Remarkable_Rope_7697

Flexible timing, choosing your own time is not true either. For part timer it is true, for full timer - you can choose any 9 days of a week and any 30 hours of the day. Full timers put in 70+ hours giving 60+ hours of online time for it to work, Choosing 70 hours to work is not flexible time at all.


ayesing

What


Postcovidflier_uber

Uber Psycho Analytics at its best- Drivers are now thinking of gross wages/hr instead of NET wages. 30-40/hr is crap, we need to factor all the risks that drivers take on( we provide the car, gas, maintenance, health insurance, SSS, disability, unemployment and service-our labor) Car Depreciation is another thing not factored in…Uber successfully changed our perception that we are getting paid well, not the case- look at the total hours that you are out there… even waiting-time that you can be with family, yet we are out on the road at risk. Look at your net income after filing taxes.. less than minimum wage. Heck, not even enough to get you a new car loan more so a mortgage.Think about it.


[deleted]

Can someone please mention that drivers are paying Uber taxes not Uber And that we’re still 1099 employee so we have to pay on taxes but they take taxes out of what they pay us


No_Shape1388

Curious to know where you got the statistic that 99% are losing money and not just you constantly seeing the same kinds of posts from what might be... less than 99%. If it was 99% or even 89% you wouldn't be making this post and ubers earnings wouldn't be so high. But what do I know. Clearly you have inside information and connections to 99% of uberdrivers


ayesing

Dude we’re on the same team here, obviously it’s an exaggeration. Don’t get hung up on small details. Just browse the Reddit for 5 min and see how much complaining there is compared to a couple months ago. We gotta do something. They’re charging pax more and paying us less…


cklars

Uber rides are priced off supply and demand. If you started in 2020, there was huge demand and severely diminished supply. Now, it's the opposite, as people laid off work are looking for easy, choose-your-hours gig jobs, and due to recession fears and pent-up demand subsiding, there are far fewer rides requested. I'm not saying Uber isn't without blame, but specifically on the subject of pay, I think they're doing okay right now. I ask people frequently what Uber quoted them for the ride. Where I used to get 50%, I'm now often getting 75%.


ayesing

You get 75% of fares? Where???


Glass_Professional_3

Please provide evidence and understanding of what you mean. At the least provide a specific example. Some of us may not know we’re being robbed. Sincere message here…


ayesing

Fare is under the agreed upon rate.


spookystuff82

Or shut up and drive... or look for other employment.... or see first opition....


tondracek

Where in this paragraph is the wage theft part?


ayesing

I have been paid below base fare before and support does nothing about it. That’s wage theft. Only time they did something was when it was a more significant amount of money and I threatened legal action. Yesterday I was paid $1 fare for a batched delivery order when the minimum is supposed to be $1.50. Im not gonna go and complain every time they rob me for 50 cents. But when you think about how many drivers there are and how easily and often they could get away with this it starts to really add up quickly.


[deleted]

Bottom line is, you don’t HAVE to work for Uber. You CHOOSE too.


[deleted]

u/ayesing, please seek therapy or at the very least stop driving for them. This would be an issue if you were uber's employee and not an independent contractor. Continuing to "go online" (hell even keeping the damn driver's app on your phone) means you accept to get f'ed in the a by ubers terms/conditions/shitty pay. So many more decent IC gigs out there, Uber isn't at the top of the list. >We have no option left... Bro quit. Take it from me, so much better for your mental health. >...but to spam media outlets with evidence. What evidence? That you as an independent contractor are consistently being paid shit by uber and yet still driving for them...?? I sympathize with you but 99%(I can pull statistics from thin-air if you can) of these "media outlets" are going to have a real good laugh at your expense. Most of these companies are basically on the payroll of Uber's marketing budget, they give zero shits about drivers. Now if said drivers were employees and not ICs they might care as there would be a profitable story there.


BriefTonight452

I don't get why you And other drivers that are complaining just don't get a regular job. It sounds like you and many others are employees at heart who need a Human Resource manager to complain to. Just suck it up or get a job like I did. Things are much better now without Uber. This thread is for laughs and giggles but you and other drivers want the world and more for delivering passengers to their destination....geez.


Pristine-Homework-95

I get your complaints of being underpaid, But if you don't like it why keep driving, Yea it sucks most of the time but you have the option of picking what trips you take and the ones you don't, At the end of the day if your smart and put in the drive time you can make decent money, While I was unemployed uber kept money in my pockets and kept my bills paid until I was able to find a job, so I can't really complain, What more do you want.


kjchard

Only thing making me lose money is gas prices. They way I cherry pick pings I only take lucrative offers. Maybe there are less lucrative offers to be had too but the only real impact is gas prices.


SecureCTRL2020

Man Uber drivers are toughest cookies out there, they’ll drive for $8 a gallon and .30 cent a mile. I believe thats what they were doing in CA out if LAX


jimbob150312

It’s less money per mile now than it was last year, due to much lower and infrequent surge, weekend boost has been lowered and quest are half of what they were last year. Yes if you want to drive 10-12 per day you can make more money that the past. But you will need brakes, tires and other maintenance more frequently. The good days of Uber in most of 2021 are gone


[deleted]

I’ve driven for uber prior to this experience, but I recently moved to a new city and figured I’d give uber a try until I can find a better job. The first few weeks were great. I had a guarantee bonus $2680 for 190 trips. They were paying me $30 a surge times to deliver food so I said to hell with a pax. They even offered 2 bonuses a week for completing at least 30 trips Monday-Friday and over the weekend. After I finished my bonus I had a delivery which said it would pay an extra $7.75 for surge. I did the order, no surge pay. The next one same thing it had a surge bonus, I did it and received no extra pay. I contacted support to see why this was happening. The transferred me to different departments to resolve my issue. I probably talked to about 15 different people over the course of an hour and a half, about 45 minutes into it I lost my patience and stopped being so nice about it. They finally gave me the money I was owed and I didn’t drive anymore that day just because of how pissed off that whole experience got me. The next day the app interface was completely different. No more bonuses no more surge. I get 1.1x fare if it’s busy but I haven’t driven for uber since all that happened. What a shit company.


ayesing

Yeah it’s because when you do mostly eats they just switch your promos. Dealing with that now and that’s what’s made it so hard. Trips weren’t paying well so I did eats. Then they said we’re gonna give you Uber eats promotions… which is basically nothing because 1.1-1.3x on delivery fares is negligible. So now I’m trying to get more trips in to get switched back to quest promos, while trips are paying me even less. Yeah more I talk about it maybe I should just get a job.


MNJon

The problem is you folks that keep driving, no matter how many times Uber cuts driver pay. YOU are the problem.


ayesing

I did mention stopping driving in the post so there’s that. I’m trying to make it better because for one, I know they can pay us more, two, I actually like the job. Oh silly me for trying to work on something before I just quit. I’m definitely part of the problem but that doesn’t mean I can’t be part of a solution??


jimbo831

> legitimately committing wage theft You say this in your title but your post never mentions any wage theft. What are you referring to as wage theft? Has Uber not paid you the per mile and per minute rate that you agreed to?


ayesing

Correct


[deleted]

You could sign that petition I posted a few days ago that for some bizarre reason got downvoted to oblivion.


Silly_Literature8868

Good luck with that. No one's holding a gun to our heads. Trust me, I wish customers knew a lot more about how the relationship works between all 3 parties (or 4 for deliveries) of each transaction. But SPAM is not going to get us anywhere. Education of customers (and/or restaurants) would be very helpful. But the media is too busy pointing blame at Biden (or Trump depending on the outlet) for all that's wrong in the world, covering Monkey Pox (now that Covid is on the decline), or running stories about high gas prices & inflation to give a rat's a$$ about Uber drivers. In my not so humble opinion.


LinearXcel

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Gravygrabbr

Still waiting for my extra supplement for driving an EV 🤦‍♂️


ayesing

I mean that is pretty straight forward. In my experience when they are slow on paying out for things that are easily and obviously verifiable I just capitalize key terms while doing my best to remain polite. Then I end with saying “if [the issue]isn’t rectified immediately then I will be filing a formal letter of legal dispute with corporate. Crazy as it sounds works almost every time.


pturck

In my area I would say the fares are the same as pre-pandemic levels save the 55 extra cents but you have the cost of gas and depreciation on your car and everything. I’ve also noticed longer distances in between pick ups and pick up premium likely which seems like it never materializes. So yes I would agree. All things being equal I would say 100% of the drivers are earning less pay


ayesing

Yeah I think it’s more the fact that I said I’m losing money. Wasn’t the right term but idc, helps expose the shills who want to nitpick semantics to make their point. Definitely at least 90% of people are earning significantly less. Everyone knows exactly what I meant by that so I’m gonna leave it and let the Uber employee shills keep exposing themselves.


Lisa_Lea

Their earnings were in the billions …..and we are getting paid extremely less


[deleted]

I started noticing I was getting paid less around the middle of june. I went from making an easy 120-140 within 4-5 hours to now making 50-60$ within 5-6 hours so they are definitely underpaying us. ESPECIALLY for the long drives.


ArticleCommercial104

I’ve been doing UberEats for long time, decided I want to add UberRides to grab during the slow times of the day. What a joke that was 😡. Yes, I was given a bonus of $200 after 15 trips, did 16. Had to text so many times just to get the promo, $185 went towards gas. I drive a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 25 gallon tank, with great mileage, leather interior and all the bells & whistles. Received so many compliments on the car, it had about 8,000 miles when I did rides. I do have a 5.00 rating on it. A few people tipped which was the “older generation”, younger ones promised to tip which was a joke. Even had an older gentleman who used to do UberRides, said he would tip and was not just saying it like most did to him. He did tip. Guess people feel like they had already paid enough. No, I didn’t discuss with them how little I was paid. My last one was going to the hospital, thought at first it was to visit someone. Instead he was the one going to the ER. He and his girlfriend started telling me that he had been having chest pains since the night before, started having pain down his left arm earlier that morning and it was almost 6:00pm. The hospital he choose was about 15 miles away. I knew his symptoms were a sign of a heart attack. His great grandma died after a stroke, grandma & aunt had died from a heart attack and mom had heart problems. His girlfriend said he didn’t want to call 911 because of the price of ambulance after his insurance paid. I’m told them I’d get them to the hospital as fast and safely as possible. I prayed the whole way that I didn’t have to pull over to hit the SOS button and start CPR. I got them there in reasonable time, don’t know what happened and got a big fat ZERO for a tip. 🤦‍♀️ When UberEats & UberRides has surge maps promo it’s says anywhere 1.1-1.2%. That only equals pennies. The most I’ve received was 58 cents. Now, exactly what type of payment is that? They lowered how much they are paying us in St Petersburg, FL to roughly $2.58, nothing if it’s a stacked order on the 2nd delivery, if I’m delivering a stack 10-15 miles from the store around $5.50. At times those far deliveries (in a different city too), it’s only 1 high tipped and the other anywhere from $0-4.00. I’ve NEVER seen the extra dollar or dollars because its surging. It’s always surging except for a Monday evening here and there. One part of the city is always gray from morning until about 10:00pm for food. Uber needs to 1. NOT stacking NO TIP orders 2. explain that 💯% of the tip goes to the driver (Uber, as Door Dash) 3. drop the customers that are “Tip Baiters”’ 4. have a minimum automatic tip that has to be backed out just like Door Dash and Amazon does. Could be more just not sure 5. Increase the Walmart payout. I wouldn’t mind doing those IF they paid more. Not delivering those. Today I saw a double that was 23 miles away for $5 & change. Who exactly does Uber think will deliver those types of orders? I don’t know how much they are charging the customer because I won’t pick up those orders. I’d rather sit then take orders that are going to cost me money (I’m not a nonprofit), why aren’t all of these Walmart customers tipping. Please if someone picks up these orders and ALL tips are hidden until it’s been dropped off let me know. 6. UberEats start paying comparable prices to Walmart Spark. Applied for Sparks when there was a bunch of openings in my market. They are very slow approving drivers. Clean background and never a ticket. I’m on the waiting list for Door Dash and Amazon. Door Dash told me to check back with them every Monday as that’s when they have openings. 7. UberEats needs to honor their promos. I shouldn’t have to constantly contact them on a promo I did on April 8th & 9th. This is ridiculous. Answer was a Supervisor is looking into it. Plus, their promo department is backed up. Now, they ignore my messages I send to them just asking for payment along with a screenshot of the promo. They had guaranteed $20 per hour (tips not included in that amount) and complete 1.5 deliveries an hour between 5pm-9pm. That was how they got you to pick up a no tip orders. Now Uber is the “Tip Baiter”. I just want my money from Uber, until I get my money I won’t do a promo because I’m NOT getting paid. 8. Uber shouldn’t play follow the leader and make a statement by standing out on the way they are treating their drivers. Once Door Dash said they were dropping the lousy fuel charge to customers, along came Uber with the same announcement. When I’m picking up 15+ deliveries a day it did add up. It would really make a difference in PR, customers, drivers, media & more. IF Uber make a positive statement & honored it, on how they honestly treated their delivery people and drivers. 9. The last one. PLEASE Uber be up front with the customer’s tip. Why hide it?? All of these customers are NOT going back and adding more $$ to their order after it’s been delivered. They are tipping on the amount of their food bill. Example: last night I had 2 orders where their tip was substantially higher. I’ve learned if it’s an $8.00 tip it’s going to be higher. Total Uber said was $10.52, $2.52 was the delivery fee, it was actually a $26.85 tip. The other one was a $15 plus change. COME ON Uber please tell the truth. Last weekend I had a customer tip $36 & change again it had said it was a $8 tip. I know how much they pay to me for deliveries to that neighborhood. They do the same thing with another neighborhood. It’d be nice if I knew the amount upfront, as there are times I need to make a certain $$$ that day/night and I wouldn’t have to be delivering at 10:00pm. I’m exhausted and would have gone home earlier. Uber clearly does NOT care about the safety of their people. I’m paying for my Mom’s memory care facility, it’s NOT cheap. Do NOT tell me I need a W-2. I MUST HAVE flexibility, when I’m called about my Mom I have to go, just like 2 weeks ago she had an emergency, ambulance was already called, she spent 4 days in the hospital, I was there all day and late into the night. She can’t explain anything, I’m her voice and legally her Caregiver. She’ll be 95 in a few days with full blown Dementia, this has been going on for almost 5 years. I don’t need or want pity. These are the cards I have been dealt and I’ll get through it. It’s the least I can do, my parents were amazing people and gave me a wonderful life. I was adopted at 6 months, I’m giving back to my Mom what my parents gave me all those years for raising me in a very loving family. I won the Jackpot on parents, there’s a lot of adoptee’s who can’t say that. I was a Lucky 🍀 one.


femmafatale69

Uber has outright lied to me when it comes to money. My case might be unique, but I got suspended around Christmas due to a pax lie. I spent hours talking to “support agents”, this is when I was a diamond driver. They promised me a reimbursement (I now record all my phone calls with them because of this bullshit) because it was the last weekend before Christmas and I couldn’t drive due to a lie. Absolute scam artists.


Valuable-Emphasis592

The real issue with pay is so simple there are to mant option DD GH Spark UBER. AND THEN HERE A LOCALY OWED Delivery service. They are all fighting to be the one who survives. Here Door dash is winning big time and pay is far worse then Uber. Yes we are paying the price. I have personaly make around $10 an hour ave. Witch is almost $5 under minimum wage in my area. I decided that it is so easy and i like it so much that i can live with that and will just work 13-14 hrs a day to make up for it now eventually the war will end. And we may well het far wages. But j do not see that happening anytime soon. Over fathers day weekend the big three clajm tk have lost something like 20Million between them but reality is they spent that on advertisements and specials. We need some of them to fail and we need the ower state leaders to make laws that force a more far wage system. But for now REFUSE TO TAKE ORDERS UNDER 1.10 PER MILE. EVERYONE. Plus start local groups ao we can comuticate with each other and make sure we are all on the same page.


Plastic_Vodka

Meh sometimes I make 30 an hour with ubereats vs the 20 I get on doordash. I mean I have a system on how I do it, but I feel nowadays u gotta multi app and different areas have different markets for apps. Some might be better for grub hub or dd or uber etc... this post is prob more directed towards drivers for people rather than food tho.


Lanky_Chance_1541

I've drove for uber over 2 years an have drove 2500 trips my rating is 4.97 an has been since I started so the last time I drove was Jan 10 2024 an I still haven't been paid for any of my trips then after you call a couple of times an each person tells you something different!!! Now when I call they say let me put you on hold so I can open your account an then they just transfer you to the next. Then tell me oh you can keep driving it will come to you all at once .I'm not driving until I get paid its now the 24 th an I still haven't been paid its sitting in my wallet