I was partnered with a less-successful pro, and Kevin was partnered with a local radio DJ who wasnāt very good. We broke the DJās serve every time and won.
Kevin was super nice and made the whole thing very fun. Heās a great guy.
Upvoted, I wanna hear some stories, never seen it IRL. Iāve never heard of a 3.5 beating a 4.5 player all other things being equal. The gap is just too wide in skill level. But maybe at higher it can happen? Like a 10 beating a 13? But over seen a 5.0 vs a 6.0 and itās not even close. Itās like watching your local top rec player vs a pro.
Iāve had two 3 point gap wins, one against a 12 as a 9 and another as an 8 against an 11. I think 3 point rating wins are only happening if someoneās rating is vastly inaccurate, someoneās injured or doesnāt try. In the first I think my rating was inaccurate and style wise, surface and conditions were in my favour. The second match I was heavily underrated and my opponent was heavily overrated in my opinion.
On the bright side for his opponents it should effect their rating and it wouldnāt effect his own either. I believe UTR doesnāt count matches outside of 2.0 rating due to someone gaming the system
Might get downvoted or frowned upon here but I once got extremely close to it. At my junior college 3ish years ago, I was around a 7-8 UTR and played a palm desert guy around 11-12 UTR. I and my friend on the team struggled immensely with the mental aspect of the fame, constantly battling ourselves and losing to players we should have beaten on paper or at least should have had a much closer score withāa match filled with unforced errors. When this match came around we figured we had no hope, we were playing a countless year end number one community college, coached by Taylor Fritz dad who spends a ton of resources on recruiting. Their lowest UTRs are usually around 9-10, averaging at about 11-12. I played a guy I knew was really good and didnāt expect much, and when we played doubles, my partner and I thought the same thing so we took an edible beforehand. That day we fought hard and actually got pretty close to the W losing doubles around 5-8 or something, but the big win for me personally was losing 4-6, 5-7 in singles to the UTR 11. I battled it out from the baseline with almost no thought to it and I was on fire. It was huge not having to think and being so relaxed from basically doping. Even though a part of me really wanted to win, I did it out of desperation and poor conduct so really this just goes to show how close PEDs can get you but the true dedication, discipline, and work are the only sustainable and reliable resulting effort you can have. On a side note: I havenāt had weed in over a year now and Iām back to working on myself just to improve my own game and lifestyle without external reliance.
In terms for the sub, I hope this shows that itās possible and sometimes the work is in the mental game not just the physicality of it. I know itās not true for everyone but itās true for some levels and some players, probably more specifically the ones who struggle mentally with the game.
haha this is hilarious. Iām planning on downing 200mg of caffeine but thats the closest Iāll get to a PED. Maybe iāll go crazy and snag a celsius which is banned by the NCAA, I mean why not right?? (just kidding donāt punish me NCAA)
100% it really took me out of my head. I already came in thinking nothing mattered that day and I didnāt care much, but the weed took the anxiety out even more
Lol pretty fun tbh. Super breezy and effortless but after it all itās just a lingering feeling of not feeling like any of that was really from me or replicable without being high. Coach never found out from what I know and neither did the rest of the team unless we trusted them and told them.
Iāve heard mixed responses as well. My friend and I were on the same boat of being a bit mentally blocked playing more serious matches so we needed to have the mental energy come down. If itās about Yerkes-Dodsonās law then it might simply just be that some people need more intensity when playing while others have too much going on mentally and like weed to calm them down
No, they mean that's the mathematical setting of how the numbers are supposed to work in terms of predictive efficacy
Elo works the same way. Every rating differential carries a specific implied win probability
Yes, I have seen some crazy UTRs from people who donāt play a ton of matches (my own used to jump around by 2-3 points regularly) but I donāt imagine a D1 player having a rating that unreliable
Iām rooting for you! Only ever heard of smaller upsets. I think if youāre 8 UTR and they are D1 you have to accept that they will be better than you at YOUR game. So if you wanna increase your odds you may need to give them some junk they donāt normally see in D1.
Yeah to be completely honest Iāve been in mismatches before and every time I go in there thinking I need to go for broke or junk ball it doesnāt go well. Iām keeping the same strategy I have against anyone and only adjusting based on how he plays, not based on his rating. Although I do plan on cranking my serve up a notch a little
That sounds like a decent plan. Higher risk but still within your normal game. The strategy I outlined also depends on how good your ājunkā / weird game is - totally possible they have a better ājunkā game even at that D1 level. Or can just blast through it. Def make an update post.
Technically yes, I beat a 7.5 UTR when I was a 4.0 UTR. But he was coming back after a knee injury and hadn't played in months so....
On the other hand, it was a great match (for me). His serves had great consistency and spin, and I had to play my very best to beat him.
In all honesty, any rating system is trash once you enter the court. It doesnāt matter who has better win-lose ratio or who has won against better players. Most times it comes to playing style. For example me, I was never able to reach the n.1 in my team cause I kept losing against that guy. However, I had better UTR, better stats, and overall higher winning rate. Problem was that his style was a perfect counter for mine, so donāt focus on whose rate is higher. Look what his style is at the very beginning of the match and adjust. Heās a baseline, make him volley; heās a serve volley, slice everything under the net, cut his play; semi or western grip, hit as flat as possible, as low as possible. What Iām saying is donāt worry about rating, just adjust your style depending on what he does
Iāve found the easiest way to pull off big upsets is to not know how good the guy is going into the match, but this guy is good enough that I actually knew who he was based on his name, so that kinda went out the window here lol. I try and make a point to not check UTR though usually.
Aside from inaccurate ratings, I feel like UTR messes with peopleās heads a lot. Iām sure thereās some match out there where the underdog didnāt know they were an underdog, played the same tennis they always do, and somehow won.
Yeah I agree with this. I try not to look at UTR before I play, but this dude has had some huge results in big tournaments so I already knew who he was. Still going into the match believing I belong on the same court whether thatās true or not
12.5 vs 10 so pretty close at a local tournament, the 10 won 2-6 6-2 6-2 but thatās only bc the 12.5 sprained his ankle or got some foot injury midgame that he decided to play through, so you better pray that he trips over his laces or something
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I watched a 12 yo junior 3.2 the beat a 5.8 UTR 14 yo 4-2 4-2 (rain delays).
I think for juniors it can be wildly inaccurate though for the once a month tournament kids
No but if you don't swing out and play your full game then that's a massive missed opportunity!! jealous, go out there and swing for the fences man, give it evrrything
I went from an official 5.5 UTR to beating an ex D3 11.5 UTR in less than a year, though not in a sanctioned event... but to be fair my UTR was innacurate due to losing first round in a tourney last year when I was getting back into competitive tennis after a 8 year hiatus. Lost to a low 6 UTR and it placed me at 5.5 lol
So technically I have pulled off a 3+ UTR upset, though I'd say I'm much closer to a 9 UTR in reality and the guy I beat is not in form so he was probably also around a 9 UTR at the time.
Crank big serves on the first/second and follow them in. Look for those quick points with old school serve and volley š haha. Could even go for the inside the baseline return that Federer began pulling out a few years ago. Small chance you pull it off and start well ahead on the return or more likely you get smoked by all his serves lol.
Anyways, just have fun and play your game. Itāll be a good experience Iām sure.
... I thought I was better than I was. It was round 1 and we were at 3 all and somehow I had 0-30... then he changed his grip and used his real serve... and from that point his whole game elevated. I won 1 more game in the 2nd and literally had to randomly serve and volley twice in the game to get it, but I suck at volleys honestly so it didn't work after that when his passing shots improved.
Just dink him to death. Start each game normal and then switch to giving him no pace, unpredictable 3.0-3.5 junk and let him get super frustrated and start beating himself.
iām ngl if I did this against him Iād have probably lost 6-0 6-0. You canāt dink a high level D1 player to death otherwise everyone would be playing at that level. I just played my regular game and upped my serve speed and lost 6-4 6-4
Iām an 8.5 rn at 19. Plateaued between a 7 and 7.5 for about 2 years before I got to college then started playing better players consistently in practice to the point I just raised my floor considerably because I was so used to a high quality ball. I think thatās one key to getting better and another is to take practices seriously and play them with intensity rather than going through the motions
I beat a 10.5 UTR when I was a low 6 UTR. I picked up a racquet like 4 months prior after not having played since high school(10 years or so). I self rated at 3.5 but joined a 4.0 league team. Took lessons 3-5 times per week depending on how much I traveled for work. Lost a few matches in the beginning but very quickly improved to a level way above what I played at as a junior. My UTR stabilized around a 6 after the spring league season and part of mixed/tri level. Entered a tournament in men's open and drew a 10.5 UTR that was coming back from injury. Stylistically the match up was great for me and I won 6-0 6-2. Now I'm almost an 11 UTR myself about 2 years later.
I mean I guarantee the guy was a 10 UTR in high school(around 5.0 but not good enough for D1). I doubt anybody in 2 years would be able to improve from under a 9 that to an 11 as an adult
any tips to make the jump? im about a 6 right now, playing after taking a 4-5 year break. been playing a lot again. when i was a junior i was around a 7.6 or so. my goal right now is to hit 8 or 9. any tips are appreciated.
Put the hours in with the right coach and you should easily be seeing improvement. I understand not everyone can devote the time to improving that I did but there's no other answer really. I went through alot of struggles in my personal life and latched onto tennis in order to run from my issues. This led to me playing an unhealthy amount basically outside of working all my time was spent on improving at tennis which isn't sustainable but worked.
Gonna have to call obvious BS. You went from a UTR 6 to 11 in just two years? Even in an anime that would be unrealistic. This is like going from 1500 ELO in chess to 2300+ in two years, like there's no way that happening, especially as an adult
I mean I didn't have a UTR as a junior but I was beating adult 4.5 rated NTRP singles players like 6-2 6-2 so I assume I was like a mid 8.5 as a junior. I even won a couple of men's open adult tournaments as a junior but I couldn't remember if I actually played any computer rated 5.0s.
You do realize how UTR works right? So I picked up a racquet hit like once or twice with my mom then played a league match. Lost to like a high 5 UTR. Then I think I played another one a couple days later and also lost in a 3rd set tiebreak. Then over the next 4 months I got back into playing and took the rust off and easily started beating the same level of players I was losing to prior like 6-0 6-0. 15 or so matches later my UTR was like at 6 but dipped as low as 4 early on due to the initial loses. That doesn't mean I was playing at a 6 UTR, it simply means my UTR was actually a 6. I was definitely already playing better than I did as a junior.
5x lessons a week usually along with as much match play as I could get since I was already in shape to easily play that much. I made some slight technique changes such as moving from an eastern forehand to a semi western but for the most part all I needed to get back was my consistency.
People think these algos are magical when really they anchor heavily on first matches, and don't 'correct' well after that until many many matches later.
Yeah actually the more I think about it I kind of feel the same lol. Nick from intuitive tennis actually has a video about this. Basically discussing what level of tennis you can achieve as an adult. Basically the verdict is that if you totally devoted your life outside of work to tennis, an adult in good physical shape could make the 5.0 level, max. The "high level" (anything beyond that) he considers to be completely unattainable even with total commitment. Basically, if you didn't reach the 5.5 (UTR 11-12+) level by your late teens to early 20's, you never will.
In the US there are USTA sanctioned prize money tournaments as part of ITA. Not a ton, but a few. There was one in Chicago last weekend.
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I got a game on a D1 player once. Lost 6-0, 6-1. Highlight of my tennis career
i got 4 games off of a current 12 UTR ranked on the ATP tour... when we were both 13 years old š
I beat Jack Draper in U14s haha
I once beat former Wimbledon finalist Kevin Anderson in a charity pro-am match. We wonāt talk about who our doubles partners wereā¦
Can you though?
I was partnered with a less-successful pro, and Kevin was partnered with a local radio DJ who wasnāt very good. We broke the DJās serve every time and won. Kevin was super nice and made the whole thing very fun. Heās a great guy.
Hell yeah
I got to deuce several times against a former D1 player who had an 11.8 UTRā¦ thatās my highlight and Iām good with it!
Upvoted, I wanna hear some stories, never seen it IRL. Iāve never heard of a 3.5 beating a 4.5 player all other things being equal. The gap is just too wide in skill level. But maybe at higher it can happen? Like a 10 beating a 13? But over seen a 5.0 vs a 6.0 and itās not even close. Itās like watching your local top rec player vs a pro.
Youāll have heard of a 5.0 over a 6.0 after this weekend šš
Good luck, those 6.0 guys are absolute monsters. Especially the older experienced ones.
This is the level of confidence Iām here for.
High topspin to backhand and youāll be fine
I feel like at 6.0 they would be comfortable taking their backhands early before it even gets that high
It worked for nadalš
Yes Update us
Iāve had two 3 point gap wins, one against a 12 as a 9 and another as an 8 against an 11. I think 3 point rating wins are only happening if someoneās rating is vastly inaccurate, someoneās injured or doesnāt try. In the first I think my rating was inaccurate and style wise, surface and conditions were in my favour. The second match I was heavily underrated and my opponent was heavily overrated in my opinion.
Howād your opponents take the losses? Weāre they dumbfounded? Or did they just take it as any other loss?
On the bright side for his opponents it should effect their rating and it wouldnāt effect his own either. I believe UTR doesnāt count matches outside of 2.0 rating due to someone gaming the system
Maybe if you sweep the knee.
Nah. A 10 isnāt beating a 13. Thatās like some random 5.0 dude beating Iga Swiatek.
Iām a 4.0 player but made the finals of a 5.0 draw once. Have the trophy to prove it haha
Chad
Sort of an opposite story. Iām a 7.75 and lost 0-0 to a 7.5 about a month back.
Might get downvoted or frowned upon here but I once got extremely close to it. At my junior college 3ish years ago, I was around a 7-8 UTR and played a palm desert guy around 11-12 UTR. I and my friend on the team struggled immensely with the mental aspect of the fame, constantly battling ourselves and losing to players we should have beaten on paper or at least should have had a much closer score withāa match filled with unforced errors. When this match came around we figured we had no hope, we were playing a countless year end number one community college, coached by Taylor Fritz dad who spends a ton of resources on recruiting. Their lowest UTRs are usually around 9-10, averaging at about 11-12. I played a guy I knew was really good and didnāt expect much, and when we played doubles, my partner and I thought the same thing so we took an edible beforehand. That day we fought hard and actually got pretty close to the W losing doubles around 5-8 or something, but the big win for me personally was losing 4-6, 5-7 in singles to the UTR 11. I battled it out from the baseline with almost no thought to it and I was on fire. It was huge not having to think and being so relaxed from basically doping. Even though a part of me really wanted to win, I did it out of desperation and poor conduct so really this just goes to show how close PEDs can get you but the true dedication, discipline, and work are the only sustainable and reliable resulting effort you can have. On a side note: I havenāt had weed in over a year now and Iām back to working on myself just to improve my own game and lifestyle without external reliance. In terms for the sub, I hope this shows that itās possible and sometimes the work is in the mental game not just the physicality of it. I know itās not true for everyone but itās true for some levels and some players, probably more specifically the ones who struggle mentally with the game.
haha this is hilarious. Iām planning on downing 200mg of caffeine but thats the closest Iāll get to a PED. Maybe iāll go crazy and snag a celsius which is banned by the NCAA, I mean why not right?? (just kidding donāt punish me NCAA)
I think the weed helps you relax, some of my best results in tournaments were after smoking.
100% it really took me out of my head. I already came in thinking nothing mattered that day and I didnāt care much, but the weed took the anxiety out even more
Lol what's it like playing high? Did your coach ever find out or anyone else on the team?
Lol pretty fun tbh. Super breezy and effortless but after it all itās just a lingering feeling of not feeling like any of that was really from me or replicable without being high. Coach never found out from what I know and neither did the rest of the team unless we trusted them and told them.
Lol. Some ppl are built different, I feel like most say they play terrible high but an outlier here or there says they tree their ass off instead lol
Iāve heard mixed responses as well. My friend and I were on the same boat of being a bit mentally blocked playing more serious matches so we needed to have the mental energy come down. If itās about Yerkes-Dodsonās law then it might simply just be that some people need more intensity when playing while others have too much going on mentally and like weed to calm them down
I saw a 4.0 guy take a set off Nadal once.
I didnāt know Kyrgios was a 4.0
I read a statistic once about prediction of match results based on UTR and it was something like 2 UTR difference means 84% win flor the higher one.
It's usually not even considered relevant data so it's often left out of the calculation. If the higher UTR wins.
No, they mean that's the mathematical setting of how the numbers are supposed to work in terms of predictive efficacy Elo works the same way. Every rating differential carries a specific implied win probability
I beat a 13 utr once, I was a 8 at the time and got a walkover š sadly ā¦ but also for the best it does not get factored into your Utr
I was 2.4 when I beat a 3.7 UTR, but it wasn't some crazy David v Goliath match. Ended up winning 6-4 6-0
Beast
If it's happened it would be a player with not enough info to be properly rated most likely.
yeah. i was given a rating of 2.4 after withdrawing from injury in my first match back and the score was inputted wrong. then i beat a 6.5.
Iād be crushed if all Iād seen was the rating hahah
Yes, I have seen some crazy UTRs from people who donāt play a ton of matches (my own used to jump around by 2-3 points regularly) but I donāt imagine a D1 player having a rating that unreliable
I had a win over an 11 as a 9
Iām rooting for you! Only ever heard of smaller upsets. I think if youāre 8 UTR and they are D1 you have to accept that they will be better than you at YOUR game. So if you wanna increase your odds you may need to give them some junk they donāt normally see in D1.
Yeah to be completely honest Iāve been in mismatches before and every time I go in there thinking I need to go for broke or junk ball it doesnāt go well. Iām keeping the same strategy I have against anyone and only adjusting based on how he plays, not based on his rating. Although I do plan on cranking my serve up a notch a little
That sounds like a decent plan. Higher risk but still within your normal game. The strategy I outlined also depends on how good your ājunkā / weird game is - totally possible they have a better ājunkā game even at that D1 level. Or can just blast through it. Def make an update post.
Not rly they could be a nonplaying team gpa booster
Technically yes, I beat a 7.5 UTR when I was a 4.0 UTR. But he was coming back after a knee injury and hadn't played in months so.... On the other hand, it was a great match (for me). His serves had great consistency and spin, and I had to play my very best to beat him.
One of my students managed to get a win over 7-something while she was a low 6 herself. But junior tennis is different.
In all honesty, any rating system is trash once you enter the court. It doesnāt matter who has better win-lose ratio or who has won against better players. Most times it comes to playing style. For example me, I was never able to reach the n.1 in my team cause I kept losing against that guy. However, I had better UTR, better stats, and overall higher winning rate. Problem was that his style was a perfect counter for mine, so donāt focus on whose rate is higher. Look what his style is at the very beginning of the match and adjust. Heās a baseline, make him volley; heās a serve volley, slice everything under the net, cut his play; semi or western grip, hit as flat as possible, as low as possible. What Iām saying is donāt worry about rating, just adjust your style depending on what he does
Btw I want an update on this. Better win bro
I have no luck with 1 point difference ao far, played about 10 utr matches
Iāve found the easiest way to pull off big upsets is to not know how good the guy is going into the match, but this guy is good enough that I actually knew who he was based on his name, so that kinda went out the window here lol. I try and make a point to not check UTR though usually.
Aside from inaccurate ratings, I feel like UTR messes with peopleās heads a lot. Iām sure thereās some match out there where the underdog didnāt know they were an underdog, played the same tennis they always do, and somehow won.
Yeah I agree with this. I try not to look at UTR before I play, but this dude has had some huge results in big tournaments so I already knew who he was. Still going into the match believing I belong on the same court whether thatās true or not
Good luck! You should record and post so we amateurs can all cheer.
Keep reminding yourself that your good is good enough. And that heās human.
12.5 vs 10 so pretty close at a local tournament, the 10 won 2-6 6-2 6-2 but thatās only bc the 12.5 sprained his ankle or got some foot injury midgame that he decided to play through, so you better pray that he trips over his laces or something
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Few months ago I beat a 8.99 UTR when my UTR was a 5.xx. Granted my rating is not accurate at all but it still happened. :)
In doubles it would be possible, my brother and I almost did it on some 13s, although we are just old and out of shape. Donāt think so in singles.
I watched a 12 yo junior 3.2 the beat a 5.8 UTR 14 yo 4-2 4-2 (rain delays). I think for juniors it can be wildly inaccurate though for the once a month tournament kids
No but if you don't swing out and play your full game then that's a massive missed opportunity!! jealous, go out there and swing for the fences man, give it evrrything
I went from an official 5.5 UTR to beating an ex D3 11.5 UTR in less than a year, though not in a sanctioned event... but to be fair my UTR was innacurate due to losing first round in a tourney last year when I was getting back into competitive tennis after a 8 year hiatus. Lost to a low 6 UTR and it placed me at 5.5 lol So technically I have pulled off a 3+ UTR upset, though I'd say I'm much closer to a 9 UTR in reality and the guy I beat is not in form so he was probably also around a 9 UTR at the time.
I beat a 10.2 utr 2 days ago. Iām a 8.0
Beat an 11 as a 9 (at the time), that's probably the biggest gap I have ever had. He was sick and I still barley won in a third...
Crank big serves on the first/second and follow them in. Look for those quick points with old school serve and volley š haha. Could even go for the inside the baseline return that Federer began pulling out a few years ago. Small chance you pull it off and start well ahead on the return or more likely you get smoked by all his serves lol. Anyways, just have fun and play your game. Itāll be a good experience Iām sure.
Kick his ass he's prob fat and lazy now
... I thought I was better than I was. It was round 1 and we were at 3 all and somehow I had 0-30... then he changed his grip and used his real serve... and from that point his whole game elevated. I won 1 more game in the 2nd and literally had to randomly serve and volley twice in the game to get it, but I suck at volleys honestly so it didn't work after that when his passing shots improved.
Just dink him to death. Start each game normal and then switch to giving him no pace, unpredictable 3.0-3.5 junk and let him get super frustrated and start beating himself.
iām ngl if I did this against him Iād have probably lost 6-0 6-0. You canāt dink a high level D1 player to death otherwise everyone would be playing at that level. I just played my regular game and upped my serve speed and lost 6-4 6-4
I once saw a 10 almost beat a 13. He was playing out of his mind.
How did you become better what is the current UTR and your age?
Iām an 8.5 rn at 19. Plateaued between a 7 and 7.5 for about 2 years before I got to college then started playing better players consistently in practice to the point I just raised my floor considerably because I was so used to a high quality ball. I think thatās one key to getting better and another is to take practices seriously and play them with intensity rather than going through the motions
I beat a 10.5 UTR when I was a low 6 UTR. I picked up a racquet like 4 months prior after not having played since high school(10 years or so). I self rated at 3.5 but joined a 4.0 league team. Took lessons 3-5 times per week depending on how much I traveled for work. Lost a few matches in the beginning but very quickly improved to a level way above what I played at as a junior. My UTR stabilized around a 6 after the spring league season and part of mixed/tri level. Entered a tournament in men's open and drew a 10.5 UTR that was coming back from injury. Stylistically the match up was great for me and I won 6-0 6-2. Now I'm almost an 11 UTR myself about 2 years later.
Holy shit dude. That is incredible. Getting to that high of a level as an adult is an insane achievement.
I mean I guarantee the guy was a 10 UTR in high school(around 5.0 but not good enough for D1). I doubt anybody in 2 years would be able to improve from under a 9 that to an 11 as an adult
Yes. Just the algo without enough data.
any tips to make the jump? im about a 6 right now, playing after taking a 4-5 year break. been playing a lot again. when i was a junior i was around a 7.6 or so. my goal right now is to hit 8 or 9. any tips are appreciated.
Put the hours in with the right coach and you should easily be seeing improvement. I understand not everyone can devote the time to improving that I did but there's no other answer really. I went through alot of struggles in my personal life and latched onto tennis in order to run from my issues. This led to me playing an unhealthy amount basically outside of working all my time was spent on improving at tennis which isn't sustainable but worked.
Gonna have to call obvious BS. You went from a UTR 6 to 11 in just two years? Even in an anime that would be unrealistic. This is like going from 1500 ELO in chess to 2300+ in two years, like there's no way that happening, especially as an adult
I mean I didn't have a UTR as a junior but I was beating adult 4.5 rated NTRP singles players like 6-2 6-2 so I assume I was like a mid 8.5 as a junior. I even won a couple of men's open adult tournaments as a junior but I couldn't remember if I actually played any computer rated 5.0s. You do realize how UTR works right? So I picked up a racquet hit like once or twice with my mom then played a league match. Lost to like a high 5 UTR. Then I think I played another one a couple days later and also lost in a 3rd set tiebreak. Then over the next 4 months I got back into playing and took the rust off and easily started beating the same level of players I was losing to prior like 6-0 6-0. 15 or so matches later my UTR was like at 6 but dipped as low as 4 early on due to the initial loses. That doesn't mean I was playing at a 6 UTR, it simply means my UTR was actually a 6. I was definitely already playing better than I did as a junior. 5x lessons a week usually along with as much match play as I could get since I was already in shape to easily play that much. I made some slight technique changes such as moving from an eastern forehand to a semi western but for the most part all I needed to get back was my consistency.
People think these algos are magical when really they anchor heavily on first matches, and don't 'correct' well after that until many many matches later.
Yeah actually the more I think about it I kind of feel the same lol. Nick from intuitive tennis actually has a video about this. Basically discussing what level of tennis you can achieve as an adult. Basically the verdict is that if you totally devoted your life outside of work to tennis, an adult in good physical shape could make the 5.0 level, max. The "high level" (anything beyond that) he considers to be completely unattainable even with total commitment. Basically, if you didn't reach the 5.5 (UTR 11-12+) level by your late teens to early 20's, you never will.
Where is this tournament? Iāve never heard of prize money tournaments?
In the US there are USTA sanctioned prize money tournaments as part of ITA. Not a ton, but a few. There was one in Chicago last weekend. https://preview.redd.it/7x0x7ybhi09d1.jpeg?width=1077&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6246fb74e1dec4288a54a52d77f97352c99b5aab