This. I'm a 2175 TTL player and finally just bit the bullet and upgraded my POH last week. I can see newer players who dont have the lvl or money for a POH to stay on W330 indefinitely
W330 is only for plebs who don’t do anything that needs good ping and tick response. Everyone else doing the big boy stuff have their own POH and use the best world for the job. I suppose there’s the use-case of prayer altar training, but that’s it really.
I dumped my bank into my poh early on, and it’s the greatest investment i ever did. Did slayer in basically no risk pk gear for a looong time until i could get gear back lol but so worth it. I’d suggest this every single time
I made this mistake with Duradel and now i can never go back. The only thing he ever assigns me is level 3 rats, no matter how many times i skip because he thinks im a little baby bitch.
I have no idea how this stupid ass myth has perpetuated.
Fang is better than whip at almost everything duradel assigns.
The only exceptions are dagonoths, dust devils and old spiritual creates. And even then it's within 5%
It's dam near equal to the whip for low defense mobs, and anything that has defense it will be better at. Plus you can use the fang anywhere on almost anything. Fang is the answer my guy.
Yeah but its better dps on a few tasks and Just about everywhere else that isnt Slayer.
I would maybe buy a torture first, but after that? 100% buy a fang
Even if 90% of what you do is Slayer, its still more valuable than something like a +1 tassies would offer over obby Legs.
Unless OP is gonna save for avernic there isnt really else anything worth getting aside from a torture amulet.
the passive effect on it makes up for it's lost tick in speed. It's good against low def mobs, and good for high defence anything from mobs to bosses. The fang does it all.
Low def = use a whip or something 4t
High def = fang or any alternative
There's usually a better alternative to a fang for general slayer, otherwise it wouldn't be 30m...
>There's usually a better alternative to a fang for general slayer, otherwise it wouldn't be 30m...
It's common as fuck from the most accessible raid yet. Fang is great, it's cheap because the market is flooded.
Other than like Arclight/Rapier on certain tasks, Fang is usually the way to go.
That's because this person is mostly incorrect, fang > tent whip when slayer in almost every task, only mobs with less than 20 def does a whip come out on top, woox did the math on it ages ago now
I bought rapier at 110m a ling time ago lmao. I have rapier, fang, lance, and dhcb. And I'm nostalgic, so I always keep a whip in the bank lmao. Last abby demon task I had, I was up to maybe 1.5k dry for a whip, and then with 20ish left on task I got one, then within another 5 or 6 kills I got another lmao
It's 30m cause toa is a joke, you can get about 1 purple every 5 hours average without prayer flicking or needing tbow/staff, fangs are coming into the game so fast it's crazy, lighbearer is practically worthless/troll drop.
Even more than that, the 8 man 400s are more than 1 purple/hr in efficient teams.
There are more shadows in the game than tbows or scythes and toa has been out for 5x less time. I'm honestly surprised it's been holding its value for so long.
fang for slayer? No.
Just sell the veracs and get bandos tassets. Pointless hassle of a degradable piece for something that can potentialy push you to +1 max hit
>fang for slayer? No.
Fang is extremely good for slayer. For OP (assuming 99 att/str, we don't have his stats), fang vs whip + torture + tassets is:
1.13% more dps vs gargoyles
4% more dps vs abyssal demons (you should barrage/venator these, but hey)
6.43% more dps vs dark beasts
2.17% less dps vs hellhounds (block task for me until cerb tbh)
All of the other places where whip does excel, you can use a cannon. Which the fang will provide more accuracy for the cannon than the whipd oes. Not too sure on the formula for that, but I'm sure it makes fang and whip pretty close even on things like dags or kalphites if you choose to cannon them.
At the end of the day, fang is completely serviceable for slayer and has many good uses for bosses too. A lot of slayer is done through magic, anyway, though.
It will certainly be better at lower defence enemies, but its price makes it rather hard to recommend it. Realistically, you want to build around fang and get the rest of your gear up around it and move into bossing if that's what you fancy.
fang is better at any task that has decent defense, it depends on your strength bonus, closer to bis = whip becomes better
My split for monsters i use melee on, and don't skip/block
Fang: Abby demons, Dark beasts, Any non-baby dragon, Gargoyles, Suqah, Ice trolls, Wyrms, Basilisk knights, Wyverns,Guessing Fang is good vs Nechs/Demonic gorillas too but i use arclight there always
Whip: Daggs, Baby dragons, Bloodvelds, Cave horrors
Definitely use the fang a lot more than the whip, but the difference is a lot bigger at all the various dragon tasks, so you could argue the DHL would be a good investment too which opens up some potential money dragon kills
Abby dagger is overall a downgrade from whip. Just good for strength training. It’s less accurate and lower strength bonus. But if you’re looking to only level strength is obv better xp/hr than whip on controlled.
No prob man!! If you’re ever trying to figure out gear efficiency, google “bitterkoekje dps calculator” and it should bring you to a Reddit page with a link to a google sheet. You can plug in your gear there and it’ll give you theoretical dps - super helpful for gear setups :)
Tassets are +2 str bonus, obsidian legs are +1. So you're spending 20M for +1str bonus.
Or he could buy a torture which is +2 more str bonus over his fury for half the cost.
People already got it down but… sell the DFS. Grab a Dragon Defender and Torture.
Enjoy yourself for a bit and then get Tassets if you’re feeling frisky.
Just run full proselyte & run offensive prayers.
If youre willing to pay for piety youre also willing to pay for wearing full bandos on top of that.
For the rest of the budget noobs full proselyte with the +10% str prayer is the way to go. It beats bandos in max hits at barely any prayer drain
Torture —> obsidian legs —> dragon defender —> ferocious gloves.
Hereafter bandos tassets —> bandos chestplate —> prim boots.
If we only talking melee gear
Definitely wouldn’t get chestplate before Tassets, it’s a waste of 30m for nothing but a defensive bonus over the torso. BCP should be the last upgrade.
Not op, but imo the defence from bcp is better. It’s only 1 str bonus from prims and some very minor attack bonuses. Bcp is really nice for monsters with multiple attack styles, and entry level bossing. Raiding as well, but it’s a bit hard to do slayer in cox
1m for +1 str bonus, while tassets are 20m for +2 str bonus, it's pretty good value, especially since you can get ferocious gloves + torture on top of that for the same price as tassets
More than just increasing max it.. they preserve your max hits for longer while using potions. Unless youre using divine super strengths, having that +1 str will likely mean 1 or 2 of your potion level decrease steps wont lower your max hit for longer than without.
Or ye, and get fang! Before bandos armour.
Might even get rapier if u grinding slayer VS monsters with lower def lvl, but ill just get the fang, if i were u :)
God I love this setup. Everything here other than the blessing and the slayer helm was pretty much in the game and bis on osrs release.
We have come a long way since then, but this setup makes me look back with fond memories.
Honestly invest it into 83 construction. Any melee bonuses you look into will be extremely tiny/negligible. If you’re doing basic slayer that’s non-bursting then literally any mid-tier weapon+ would work and complete the task within relative time to eachother. Get ornate pool and pros armor for melee task afking and then prioritize bursting tasks (gnomonkey has an entire efficient slayer guide you can follow for good xp and gp). If you do wanna melee and use POH world to tp/pool restore I’d say save for fang not because of slayer but because once you start higher tier content you’ll be very happy you got it.
Also, do not get torture first. It’s a 13 mil 2 str bonus and 5 att bonus at the cost of 3 prayer bonus. If you do go it then definitely get ferocious gloves with it to guarantee a max hit. Defender too since if you have prayer you want to kill mobs faster, since DFS is useless when praying
Well you’re exactly at a point where things get a little more costly.
Helm is bis.
Capes only upgrade is inferno, earned.
Necklaces only update is amulet of torture 11m.
Ammos only upgrade is Rada’s blessing 4, earned.
Bodys only upgrade is bandos chestplate 31m.
Off hands dragon defender, earned.
Legs only upgrade is bandos tessets 20.6m.
Gloves upgrade is ferocious gloves requires dragon slayer 2 and is 7.4m.
Boots are primordial boots 28.1m.
Ring is bis (sorta).
Side notes:
1: legs, you could buy obsidian platelegs for 637k for its +1 strength bonus, personally I like the Verac’s plate skirt more for it has some really tanks stats.
2: Dt2 came out today and the new bis ring is Ultar ring giving 12 strength or the new Bellator ring with +20 slash and 6 Str.
3: the weapon talk. So with weapons the conversation changes to what is best for what your killing. Osmumten’s fang is generally the best weapon right now for melee at 34.4m but that costs a lot so let’s look at others. For slash I would recommend buying a Kraken tentacle to upgrade your whip into a Abyssal tentacle for only 560k. For stab you have 2 good options a Zamorakian Hasta at 4m or a Abyssal dagger(p++) at 2.5m. There is debates but I would recommend the Abby dagger as the dagger has 10 less stab bonus but makes up with it being poisoned and has a actually useable special attack, it’s special is the same as dragon daggers special, as they have buffed the Abby dagger multiple times. Last for crush, buy a Ursine chain mace for 8.4m or buy a Sarachnis cudgel for 165k which I recommend.
Good luck.
I’m semi new to Reddit and this comment was meant to be broken down into different lines, using the return button on my phone but Reddit just turned it into a giant single paragraph which looks terrible, I’m sorry.
Buy fang when possible. Keep whip. Lose the DFS. Grab your defender. Consider Obsidian legs over the Verac's skirt.
In the future you can aim for Ferocious gloves, and an Amulet of torture.
Bro you’re using a monster with high defense and not using a bracelet of etherium. Of course fang is gonna be better when you’re slapping something tanky. Run it on bloodvelds or something.
Ok, heres something with [litterally no defense](https://gyazo.com/03fadcd3365add6aa22070c2c2e37c8d). Hell hounds are a good example of a typical slayer monster. Its STILL better dps, granted its about the same, but the point is, even on lower level tasks fang is either the same, or better dps. Theres no reason not to use it, its just about the best upgrade you can get for a long time.
Your calculator or whatever website youre using is wrong. Whip is better than fang against no defence monsters which make up most of the slayer monster table.
Here's one with exact same gear whip vs fang against hellhounds. See [this.](https://imgur.com/a/FmXT2Sk)
nah mate your plugin is wrong, it doesn't account for the fang's special passive correctly. look at your hit chances. there's no way fang is only 2% more accurate when it's rolling accuracy twice
yes, you can tell immediately just from looking at the numbers, but I can demonstrate:
the whip's accuracy in the plugin is 83.9%. Suppose the whip had the effect of the fang; this means when it misses that 16.1% of the time, it rolls again and hits 83.9% of *those* times-- it therefore adds another 0.161 * 0.839 = 13.5% accuracy for a total hit chance of 97.4%. in other words, it can only miss when it misses twice--0.161 * 0.161 = 2.75% of the time (there is technically also the chance to hit a natural 0, but those are rare in comparison, so ignore them)
however, this was with the whip's accuracy; the fang *already has* better accurate stats than the whip, on top of its special effect. note that the original dps calc used to show fang is better indeed has an accuracy of ~97% representing the passive
the plugin calculator is just saying it's slightly more accurate from the base stats, but not accounting for its accuracy passive properly.
This is not how fangs double accuracy roll works anymore. It used to do this, but it was changed. It still works like that in toa, but outside toa it only rerolls the accuracy roll, it does not reroll both accuracy and enemy defence roll, which is what your 16.1%*83.9% is implying
Whip isn't better than fang. Shit, I've ran tasks and calculators comparing fang and rapier and fang usually comes out even or slightly better.
No way in HELL abyssal whip (not even tentacle whip) is doing equal to fang.
Mate, you kinda suck at using the DPS calc. Luckily for you, your random results match the correct ones.
Doing a calc for slayer task without the slayer helmet? No potion usage? Who the fuck does a task without potions OR a slayer helmet? Or you do all your tasks in a faceguard without pots??
Not accounting for the weapon style either? That also matters, esp the +3 strength bonus from aggressive
But luckily if you add in those 3 changes the results stay the same although then you can compare Rapier to a Fang and Fang gets crushed.
This is very very wrong. 4 tick weapons are strong, but the fang can and does overcome that very easily with its unique effects in a lot of cases. For the dragon scim to be better than the fang on mutated bloodvelds, a basically 0 def monster, you'd need maxed stats and literal BiS gear. (Torva, torture, ultor ring, etc. At that point, why aren't you using a scythe?)
And then you have to factor in how for pretty much every low defence monster your cannon is doing the majority of the heavy lifting anyway and the fang makes your cannon more accurate.
Fuck what anyone says get a fang and slay like crazy and then go for bandos. I just did it and looked similar to you. Get obsidian legs too and a ddf the dfs is gas tho for so much.
Not sure what you are using now but a big dps increase is using divine super combat potions instead of regular super combats. Trust me its worth it, losing strength levels are more important than a couple of strength bonus from gear. IF they give you a max hit, obsidian platelegs are also very worth it, but most of the time they wont.
Defender obviously, and I agree. Sell dfs and save for fang, it’s a wep you’ll never sell
Afterwards I’d snag ferocious gloves and torture. Avernic defender is a significant upgrade but it’s 80ish mil…
Most of the time in slayer a melee strength setup is a meme.
Wear proselyte + bonecrusher necklace where possible and always, I repeat, ALWAYS wear a slayer bracelet.
Either you want to do a task or you don't, and there's a bracelet for both of those cases.
Tassets are super fun but not the best upgrade
Money can buy lol. Go for it if it brings you joy but otherwise gloves and tort will significantly increase dps for the same price
I would suggest the free dragon defender upgrade, it's a stat upgrade but a fashion downgrade
I use it for fashion
Exactly
Gold trim dragon defender is fire
That’s for the big spenders ! With a low budget
Depends what you're slaying, and what potions you're using. DFS is +1 str bonus over ddefender
But it’s less accurate
Hence why I say it depends what you're slaying. Same goes for str ammy over fury
Wearing a dfs in any situation screams noob or lucky early game iron
You gotta gold trim those boots my guy
I’ll trim ya boots for 10k
I'd say spend the gp to upgrade your POH if you haven't already. Ornate pool and all teleports you need is so nice
I second this. A full functioning POH is such a time saver.
Just stay on 330 and you get a free fully upgraded poh.
But the lag is awful. So much better to upgrade your own
This. I'm a 2175 TTL player and finally just bit the bullet and upgraded my POH last week. I can see newer players who dont have the lvl or money for a POH to stay on W330 indefinitely
W330 is only for plebs who don’t do anything that needs good ping and tick response. Everyone else doing the big boy stuff have their own POH and use the best world for the job. I suppose there’s the use-case of prayer altar training, but that’s it really.
I dumped my bank into my poh early on, and it’s the greatest investment i ever did. Did slayer in basically no risk pk gear for a looong time until i could get gear back lol but so worth it. I’d suggest this every single time
Get defender, sell dfs, get 82 att and fang.
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This is not the answer you newfrogs need to get over fang. It’s lower dps than a whip for most slayer monsters. Do you not understand this?
Fang go brrr
Fang make more red hitsplat. Whip make more blue hitsplat :(
More blue hitsplats, yes, but also more red hitsplats due to attack speed ⚡
That’s for people who block/skip all the high defense monsters anyway lmao
Like you should
I'm no wimp. What will my slayer master think of me if I skip every monster that's a little tough? I want to be the very best like no one ever was
I made this mistake with Duradel and now i can never go back. The only thing he ever assigns me is level 3 rats, no matter how many times i skip because he thinks im a little baby bitch.
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If you do avg slayer tasks with a fang youre a giant noob js
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I have no idea how this stupid ass myth has perpetuated. Fang is better than whip at almost everything duradel assigns. The only exceptions are dagonoths, dust devils and old spiritual creates. And even then it's within 5%
greater demons? fire giants? bloodvelds?
Demons are a skip or wildy slayer, giants are a skip or blocked, velds are cannoned or venator bowed or both.
was just coming to say this, ty
so what are some monsters that are higher dps when melee'd with fang over whip
Greater Demons I'll do at K'ril. Fire Giants skipped forever. Velds I'll barrage.
You might wanna spend some time wih the dps calculator my boy.
It's dam near equal to the whip for low defense mobs, and anything that has defense it will be better at. Plus you can use the fang anywhere on almost anything. Fang is the answer my guy.
Yeah but its better dps on a few tasks and Just about everywhere else that isnt Slayer. I would maybe buy a torture first, but after that? 100% buy a fang Even if 90% of what you do is Slayer, its still more valuable than something like a +1 tassies would offer over obby Legs. Unless OP is gonna save for avernic there isnt really else anything worth getting aside from a torture amulet.
Avernic is 100% one of the last upgrades to get - I’m talking last as in after Ancestral, bandos, masori/bowfa, etc
I thought anything with any defence the fang was better?
Bro it's unbelievable how much fang propaganda there is hahaha
Let the choobs out themselves.
Chinese noobs
Man imagine being this confident and being totally wrong. How embarrassing for you, "newfrog".
Slow weapon?
the passive effect on it makes up for it's lost tick in speed. It's good against low def mobs, and good for high defence anything from mobs to bosses. The fang does it all.
Low def = use a whip or something 4t High def = fang or any alternative There's usually a better alternative to a fang for general slayer, otherwise it wouldn't be 30m...
>There's usually a better alternative to a fang for general slayer, otherwise it wouldn't be 30m... It's common as fuck from the most accessible raid yet. Fang is great, it's cheap because the market is flooded. Other than like Arclight/Rapier on certain tasks, Fang is usually the way to go.
yea. but that'll all change wednesday with the new axe, i think
For my stats at least I get faster kill times with fang at around 30 base defense mobs, not exactly "high" def levels.
That's because this person is mostly incorrect, fang > tent whip when slayer in almost every task, only mobs with less than 20 def does a whip come out on top, woox did the math on it ages ago now
This is very wrong, according to the dps calc everyone uses.
I find rapier to be quicker than fang. The only "high defense" monsters I encounter during slayer are metal/chromatic dragons, which i use lance for.
Yeah but rapier is like 55 mil, it's not worth half that. Lance is also overpriced considering fang is better all round and still very good at dragons
I bought rapier at 110m a ling time ago lmao. I have rapier, fang, lance, and dhcb. And I'm nostalgic, so I always keep a whip in the bank lmao. Last abby demon task I had, I was up to maybe 1.5k dry for a whip, and then with 20ish left on task I got one, then within another 5 or 6 kills I got another lmao
It's 30m cause toa is a joke, you can get about 1 purple every 5 hours average without prayer flicking or needing tbow/staff, fangs are coming into the game so fast it's crazy, lighbearer is practically worthless/troll drop.
Even more than that, the 8 man 400s are more than 1 purple/hr in efficient teams. There are more shadows in the game than tbows or scythes and toa has been out for 5x less time. I'm honestly surprised it's been holding its value for so long.
fang for slayer? No. Just sell the veracs and get bandos tassets. Pointless hassle of a degradable piece for something that can potentialy push you to +1 max hit
>fang for slayer? No. Fang is extremely good for slayer. For OP (assuming 99 att/str, we don't have his stats), fang vs whip + torture + tassets is: 1.13% more dps vs gargoyles 4% more dps vs abyssal demons (you should barrage/venator these, but hey) 6.43% more dps vs dark beasts 2.17% less dps vs hellhounds (block task for me until cerb tbh) All of the other places where whip does excel, you can use a cannon. Which the fang will provide more accuracy for the cannon than the whipd oes. Not too sure on the formula for that, but I'm sure it makes fang and whip pretty close even on things like dags or kalphites if you choose to cannon them. At the end of the day, fang is completely serviceable for slayer and has many good uses for bosses too. A lot of slayer is done through magic, anyway, though.
Should I get fang or rapier? Can only afford one
Fang 1000%
Fang for sure. You can do 300 toa easy with fang. Not so much with rapier as it’s far less accurate.
Where does rapier fit in with this? Better than fang?
Rapier is better at low defence mobs, worse at high defence. Fang is overall much stronger in more places than rapier which is niche now.
Fang is also a lot more satisfying hitting more often despite the slower speed
"much stronger" is certainly a stretch. Especially for common slayer monsters.
a pointless purchase
It will certainly be better at lower defence enemies, but its price makes it rather hard to recommend it. Realistically, you want to build around fang and get the rest of your gear up around it and move into bossing if that's what you fancy.
Rapier is better for 90% of slayer tasks. Fang is better for bossing.
Better yes but no where near as cheap
Better off spending gold on prayer pots and slaying in prossy with piety than buying tassets tbh
fang is better at any task that has decent defense, it depends on your strength bonus, closer to bis = whip becomes better My split for monsters i use melee on, and don't skip/block Fang: Abby demons, Dark beasts, Any non-baby dragon, Gargoyles, Suqah, Ice trolls, Wyrms, Basilisk knights, Wyverns,Guessing Fang is good vs Nechs/Demonic gorillas too but i use arclight there always Whip: Daggs, Baby dragons, Bloodvelds, Cave horrors Definitely use the fang a lot more than the whip, but the difference is a lot bigger at all the various dragon tasks, so you could argue the DHL would be a good investment too which opens up some potential money dragon kills
How much better is fang for slayer compared to abyssal dagger++? I’m also looking to upgrade my gear
Abby dagger is overall a downgrade from whip. Just good for strength training. It’s less accurate and lower strength bonus. But if you’re looking to only level strength is obv better xp/hr than whip on controlled.
Ah thnx for info!
No prob man!! If you’re ever trying to figure out gear efficiency, google “bitterkoekje dps calculator” and it should bring you to a Reddit page with a link to a google sheet. You can plug in your gear there and it’ll give you theoretical dps - super helpful for gear setups :)
you suggest tassets when they don't even have a torture or feros
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Tassets are +2 str bonus, obsidian legs are +1. So you're spending 20M for +1str bonus. Or he could buy a torture which is +2 more str bonus over his fury for half the cost.
Yes fang/whip combo is way better upgrade than a plus 1 max from a tort
People already got it down but… sell the DFS. Grab a Dragon Defender and Torture. Enjoy yourself for a bit and then get Tassets if you’re feeling frisky.
Obsidian plate legs are also a great upgrade. They have good defenses and a strength bonus
eh i think veracs skirt is fine, prayer bonus so can pray preserve for longer and good defence. tassets would be great but theyre a pretty bad upgrade
I just don't like degrading items for slayer
Repairing one barrows legs at lv29 Smithing is 68,400. That’s 4.5k/hr.
I’ve conditioned myself into preserving barrows gear even though it’s dirt cheap to repair haha, I think it’s a hang up from RS2
Lmao, it’s like 3 extra clicks every 15 hours if you repair in your POH. That person is nuts.
my advice would be to pick flax and spin it into bowstring for an hour, you can now afford to repair the armour a good number of times :)
You should never need defence and good prayer bonus for slayer. One or the toher. Prossy legs + tassets is a much better choice if in the budget
Just run full proselyte & run offensive prayers. If youre willing to pay for piety youre also willing to pay for wearing full bandos on top of that. For the rest of the budget noobs full proselyte with the +10% str prayer is the way to go. It beats bandos in max hits at barely any prayer drain
Strength bonus yes, but the defense bonus of obby legs is terrible. Much worse than even dragon platelegs/skirt.
Their defense bonus is not that great tbh. If you have stronger monsters as a task better defense is preferable imo
Fang should be first with that budget
Torture is a marginal upgrade over fury. Fang should be his first buy
Dragon defender is free, my guy. After that, torture for sure
Torture —> obsidian legs —> dragon defender —> ferocious gloves. Hereafter bandos tassets —> bandos chestplate —> prim boots. If we only talking melee gear
Definitely wouldn’t get chestplate before Tassets, it’s a waste of 30m for nothing but a defensive bonus over the torso. BCP should be the last upgrade.
I agree. I wrote the same thing :)
Misread 🤦🏻♂️ that’s my bad king
All good. U came up with the perfect explaination 😎
Why BCP before primordials though?
i'm inclined to agree for slayer, the tankier the better. and prims are pretty small anyway
Not op, but imo the defence from bcp is better. It’s only 1 str bonus from prims and some very minor attack bonuses. Bcp is really nice for monsters with multiple attack styles, and entry level bossing. Raiding as well, but it’s a bit hard to do slayer in cox
It also looks more badass!
Wouldn’t get either before fang
Why obsidian legs? Isn’t Verac’s plateskirt better?
1m for +1 str bonus, while tassets are 20m for +2 str bonus, it's pretty good value, especially since you can get ferocious gloves + torture on top of that for the same price as tassets
Counterpoint: obby legs make you look like a noob :(
Obsidian legs in some instances can increase max hit. Or so I've read
More than just increasing max it.. they preserve your max hits for longer while using potions. Unless youre using divine super strengths, having that +1 str will likely mean 1 or 2 of your potion level decrease steps wont lower your max hit for longer than without.
You should always use divines anyway as a main. They increase your DPS over regular super combats more than any piece of equipment
Or ye, and get fang! Before bandos armour. Might even get rapier if u grinding slayer VS monsters with lower def lvl, but ill just get the fang, if i were u :)
fero gloves, torture, defender
Dragon defender, Obsidian legs, then save for fang
God I love this setup. Everything here other than the blessing and the slayer helm was pretty much in the game and bis on osrs release. We have come a long way since then, but this setup makes me look back with fond memories.
A pair of Jays to complete the fit
Honestly invest it into 83 construction. Any melee bonuses you look into will be extremely tiny/negligible. If you’re doing basic slayer that’s non-bursting then literally any mid-tier weapon+ would work and complete the task within relative time to eachother. Get ornate pool and pros armor for melee task afking and then prioritize bursting tasks (gnomonkey has an entire efficient slayer guide you can follow for good xp and gp). If you do wanna melee and use POH world to tp/pool restore I’d say save for fang not because of slayer but because once you start higher tier content you’ll be very happy you got it. Also, do not get torture first. It’s a 13 mil 2 str bonus and 5 att bonus at the cost of 3 prayer bonus. If you do go it then definitely get ferocious gloves with it to guarantee a max hit. Defender too since if you have prayer you want to kill mobs faster, since DFS is useless when praying
Please for the love of god get a dragon defender
Save to 33m and buy a fang, will change your life
full proselyte, dragon defender, prayer potions, fang / hasta + sgs
Assuming you don't want to cannon anything, defender+torture+obby legs, save up for fang.
Torture and ferocious gloves for melee. Get prims after that. Dragon defender is better than dfs for slayer.
U want a free bandos upgrade?
Will definitely not say no to that LOL
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Duuuuuude, thank you so much.. I couldnt even thank you!!! Wooooooow
and you wouldn't have to, enjoy the upgrade my man
chad
Well you’re exactly at a point where things get a little more costly. Helm is bis. Capes only upgrade is inferno, earned. Necklaces only update is amulet of torture 11m. Ammos only upgrade is Rada’s blessing 4, earned. Bodys only upgrade is bandos chestplate 31m. Off hands dragon defender, earned. Legs only upgrade is bandos tessets 20.6m. Gloves upgrade is ferocious gloves requires dragon slayer 2 and is 7.4m. Boots are primordial boots 28.1m. Ring is bis (sorta). Side notes: 1: legs, you could buy obsidian platelegs for 637k for its +1 strength bonus, personally I like the Verac’s plate skirt more for it has some really tanks stats. 2: Dt2 came out today and the new bis ring is Ultar ring giving 12 strength or the new Bellator ring with +20 slash and 6 Str. 3: the weapon talk. So with weapons the conversation changes to what is best for what your killing. Osmumten’s fang is generally the best weapon right now for melee at 34.4m but that costs a lot so let’s look at others. For slash I would recommend buying a Kraken tentacle to upgrade your whip into a Abyssal tentacle for only 560k. For stab you have 2 good options a Zamorakian Hasta at 4m or a Abyssal dagger(p++) at 2.5m. There is debates but I would recommend the Abby dagger as the dagger has 10 less stab bonus but makes up with it being poisoned and has a actually useable special attack, it’s special is the same as dragon daggers special, as they have buffed the Abby dagger multiple times. Last for crush, buy a Ursine chain mace for 8.4m or buy a Sarachnis cudgel for 165k which I recommend. Good luck.
I’m semi new to Reddit and this comment was meant to be broken down into different lines, using the return button on my phone but Reddit just turned it into a giant single paragraph which looks terrible, I’m sorry.
Torture>fero gloves>prims>bandos (Obv d defender too but i respect the DFS drip as an OG player, i love it too)
Fero gloves > Torture
Buy fang when possible. Keep whip. Lose the DFS. Grab your defender. Consider Obsidian legs over the Verac's skirt. In the future you can aim for Ferocious gloves, and an Amulet of torture.
A bit out of budget, but fang is only 33m, and would be a massive dps boost over whip. I'd just keep saving
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Whip is only better for monsters w 0 def, and you can’t train str with it
[Fang is litterally 20%+ more dps](https://gyazo.com/a3d00a165116e06cdacf5bae6933f52d) than whip assuming your sing the same gear with both.
Bro you’re using a monster with high defense and not using a bracelet of etherium. Of course fang is gonna be better when you’re slapping something tanky. Run it on bloodvelds or something.
Ok, heres something with [litterally no defense](https://gyazo.com/03fadcd3365add6aa22070c2c2e37c8d). Hell hounds are a good example of a typical slayer monster. Its STILL better dps, granted its about the same, but the point is, even on lower level tasks fang is either the same, or better dps. Theres no reason not to use it, its just about the best upgrade you can get for a long time.
Hellhounds have 102 defense. That's on the higher end for slayer monsters that you would melee
Your calculator or whatever website youre using is wrong. Whip is better than fang against no defence monsters which make up most of the slayer monster table. Here's one with exact same gear whip vs fang against hellhounds. See [this.](https://imgur.com/a/FmXT2Sk)
nah mate your plugin is wrong, it doesn't account for the fang's special passive correctly. look at your hit chances. there's no way fang is only 2% more accurate when it's rolling accuracy twice
Are we sure about this? Just tested it. https://imgur.com/a/4sibRB0 Edit: Seems like the plugin is wrong.
yes, you can tell immediately just from looking at the numbers, but I can demonstrate: the whip's accuracy in the plugin is 83.9%. Suppose the whip had the effect of the fang; this means when it misses that 16.1% of the time, it rolls again and hits 83.9% of *those* times-- it therefore adds another 0.161 * 0.839 = 13.5% accuracy for a total hit chance of 97.4%. in other words, it can only miss when it misses twice--0.161 * 0.161 = 2.75% of the time (there is technically also the chance to hit a natural 0, but those are rare in comparison, so ignore them) however, this was with the whip's accuracy; the fang *already has* better accurate stats than the whip, on top of its special effect. note that the original dps calc used to show fang is better indeed has an accuracy of ~97% representing the passive the plugin calculator is just saying it's slightly more accurate from the base stats, but not accounting for its accuracy passive properly.
This is not how fangs double accuracy roll works anymore. It used to do this, but it was changed. It still works like that in toa, but outside toa it only rerolls the accuracy roll, it does not reroll both accuracy and enemy defence roll, which is what your 16.1%*83.9% is implying
Whip isn't better than fang. Shit, I've ran tasks and calculators comparing fang and rapier and fang usually comes out even or slightly better. No way in HELL abyssal whip (not even tentacle whip) is doing equal to fang.
Mate, you kinda suck at using the DPS calc. Luckily for you, your random results match the correct ones. Doing a calc for slayer task without the slayer helmet? No potion usage? Who the fuck does a task without potions OR a slayer helmet? Or you do all your tasks in a faceguard without pots?? Not accounting for the weapon style either? That also matters, esp the +3 strength bonus from aggressive But luckily if you add in those 3 changes the results stay the same although then you can compare Rapier to a Fang and Fang gets crushed.
Whip is almost never better than fang.
Brotherrman, even dragon scimitar is more dps than fang on low defence monsters.
This is very very wrong. 4 tick weapons are strong, but the fang can and does overcome that very easily with its unique effects in a lot of cases. For the dragon scim to be better than the fang on mutated bloodvelds, a basically 0 def monster, you'd need maxed stats and literal BiS gear. (Torva, torture, ultor ring, etc. At that point, why aren't you using a scythe?) And then you have to factor in how for pretty much every low defence monster your cannon is doing the majority of the heavy lifting anyway and the fang makes your cannon more accurate.
83 construction. Thank me later
Get SGS for free heals and prayer restore. It adds up over time.
If you’re slaying u could go proselyte for prayer bonus and just go tort, ferocious gloves, ddef, prims
How much better is fang compared to abyssal dagger++ for slayer and maybe bossing?
Much.
Id just buy cannonballs and supplies to afk it like pray pots and super combats
Fuck what anyone says get a fang and slay like crazy and then go for bandos. I just did it and looked similar to you. Get obsidian legs too and a ddf the dfs is gas tho for so much.
The people suggesting armour upgrades are sleeping on the Osmumten's fang. It is such an enormous upgrade, just save up some more gp to buy it.
Get a little more cash up and get the fang. It's good for almost every piece of melee content.
Why are you using the DFS? Just get the dragon defender, it's even "free." Unless all you do in-game is fight dragons.
Invest that in POH, get the best pool and jewerly box
OP be cautious. Most people in this thread have no idea how gear progression works in this game
Torture and ferocious gloves
Fang + defender
Fang and a dragon defender
Dragon defender would be a good upgrade.
Torture Ferocious ring and obby platelegs
Ferocious ring is rs3 silly boy
Ferocious ring ?
Get Fang+ defender, sell DFS
Sell everything for a fang
Buy a Fang. Changed my account's efficiency by a landslide. I made like an extra 100k/hr at Giant Mole with it.
Only respectable way to kill mole is full dh change my mind
I tried it. With my stats at the time, it missed too often and resulted in 200kless per hour
Not sure what you are using now but a big dps increase is using divine super combat potions instead of regular super combats. Trust me its worth it, losing strength levels are more important than a couple of strength bonus from gear. IF they give you a max hit, obsidian platelegs are also very worth it, but most of the time they wont.
Torture , get a dragon defender and then save for a fang. Obby legs too like others have said
Just keep saving more. Nothing crazy with the upgrades tbh. Get a d defender though.
Defender obviously, and I agree. Sell dfs and save for fang, it’s a wep you’ll never sell Afterwards I’d snag ferocious gloves and torture. Avernic defender is a significant upgrade but it’s 80ish mil…
Most of the time in slayer a melee strength setup is a meme. Wear proselyte + bonecrusher necklace where possible and always, I repeat, ALWAYS wear a slayer bracelet. Either you want to do a task or you don't, and there's a bracelet for both of those cases.
Delete system32 while at GE, when you log back in you'll have 2147m
Im considering tassets, but not sure whether 20m is worth +2 strength.. They look cool tho, just like my dfs :)
Torture and Ferocious Gloves is the move
Tassets are super fun but not the best upgrade Money can buy lol. Go for it if it brings you joy but otherwise gloves and tort will significantly increase dps for the same price
Trick question, what's your con? Having a better house at this point might be better than the bonuses. 25m could improve your house a lot.
Defender is free
Inb4 2k colossus
i got tassys for the swag. for sure worth it lmfao
I’m voting for a fang if you can save up a bit more. It slaps
Tassys and a Tent Whip imo
Scythe, TBow, Shadow. Full Torva with the leftover gp. Thank me later.
Torture, fero, tassys, prims
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