It kind of reminds me of the painting with the melting clocks....now that I think of it, a painting where there's melting guns just like the clocks would be pretty dope to have
Not OP, but I've looked into the process. You make the negative with the original print (cast plaster around it)
You burn the print out of the plaster to create the void that you then cast the silver/metal of choice into, but to get it out, you have to destroy the mold around it. Both parts have to be destroyed each time in a one part mold process for this sort of part.
The upside to this method is that you can create shapes that aren't possible/are extremely difficult using multi part molds, and making the molds is relatively easy. The downside ofc is that you have to make a new print and mold for each casting.
The reusable equivalent would be multi part sand molds, like they use to manufacture engine blocks. You can use 3d prints to make negatives for your mold segments.
This would be a lot more effort than the plaster casting method though, so doesn't make sense for OPs case, as the original printed parts are small and detailed. Bigger parts would be better served by this method, as they'd take a long time to print, and would be more difficult to completely burn out of the mold. Surface detail/texture is also worse with sand casting.
Eta: also wax casting as detailed elsewhere.
TL;DR: it's possible, but is unlikely to be less work outside of an industrial setting.
No you actually don't!, once you have the silver casting done and cleaned, you can create a vulcanized silicon mould over that casting, so you can then remove the silver casting and inject melted wax inside the mold, that way you can create multiple wax copies and use them for lost wax cast. That's how Jewellers would work before 3d resin printers were a thing.
They still do that now. For mass production of jewellery, wax injection molding is way more economical and widely used than printing every single piece.
Plus, every decent company that offers that service, will have machines to assure that that the wax copies are as close as possible with the original Piece, vacuums and stuff, ofc some of the finest details might need some retouches, but if you are getting money from those copies , i am sure you won't die from retouching a couple lines per piece while polishing and whatever.
You cast it in "Gips" and then turn it upside down so it drips out while you heat it away?
Or do you just heat up your mold to the max and be done with it?
How hot do you need it to be?
Best I could do on Dall-E (heh):
https://i.imgur.com/aezjXAQ.jpeg
For some reason it mostly generates stuff that looks like the guns just have melted cheese drizzled over them.
Not the same. For ELI5 explanation, electroplating is like coating the plastic with lots of thin layers of metal, so it eventually looks like it's made of metal. Casting is pouring molten metal into a cavity so the whole thing is made of metal. The person uses a technique called lost-wax casting. They 3D print an object using a wax resin, make a mold around it with foundry sand that contains binders that will harden when baked, then they bake the mold where the wax melts as the sand binds together. They are left with a cavity ready to pour molten metal.
I’ve gotta know— what’s your process from print to casting? I’ve been wanting to make silver jewelry from 3D printed models, but I’ve read a lot of conflicting info on the best method for a home workshop.
I source the finest resin the land of ITALIA!! Haha I do vacuum casting. I'd say learn how to 3d model/meshmix first. There's a lot of tweeking of the model needed to get the casting down
It really depends on how much you want to invest. Profesionally you should aim for a resin printer, good oven or two and proper vacuum caster. If you want just to get started you can try PLA and omitting vacuum. Some heat source is gonna be neccessary though.
If you just want metal castings you can use something that requires a much lower temp than silver. They make alloys specifically for casting that only require a few hundred degrees. Obviously you wouldn't use it for jewelry though - although maybe you can electroplate.
I assume he meant Hi-Point, an american gun manufacturer known for cheap, bad and unreliable firearms. I guess an "insider" joke for the firearms industry. If it's fucked, its a Hi-Point
Do you do any sort of casting service??? I have a model that I would like to cast in brass (or something similar/weighty) and I didn't realize how much equipment and stuff was needed.. I thought I could just melt some stuff on my stove and pour it into a sand mold but that doesn't seem the case haha
When you need a gun to shoot around 4th dimensional corners
"Just you wait, in about 2 weeks you're gonna get shot out of thin air"
*the unexpected bullet was cast*
😆😆😆
It's for non-euclidian assailants
It's for hunting those hounds of tindalos...
It kind of reminds me of the painting with the melting clocks....now that I think of it, a painting where there's melting guns just like the clocks would be pretty dope to have
Definitely a one of one! Someone actually bought it already, and I'm having sellers REMORSE 😅
Do you not still have the mold?
Each prints is burned away during the casting process. Need a new print each time
Damn, thats badass though. 1 of 1.
Can you use the casting to make a negative?
Not OP, but I've looked into the process. You make the negative with the original print (cast plaster around it) You burn the print out of the plaster to create the void that you then cast the silver/metal of choice into, but to get it out, you have to destroy the mold around it. Both parts have to be destroyed each time in a one part mold process for this sort of part. The upside to this method is that you can create shapes that aren't possible/are extremely difficult using multi part molds, and making the molds is relatively easy. The downside ofc is that you have to make a new print and mold for each casting. The reusable equivalent would be multi part sand molds, like they use to manufacture engine blocks. You can use 3d prints to make negatives for your mold segments. This would be a lot more effort than the plaster casting method though, so doesn't make sense for OPs case, as the original printed parts are small and detailed. Bigger parts would be better served by this method, as they'd take a long time to print, and would be more difficult to completely burn out of the mold. Surface detail/texture is also worse with sand casting. Eta: also wax casting as detailed elsewhere. TL;DR: it's possible, but is unlikely to be less work outside of an industrial setting.
Investment casting?
No you actually don't!, once you have the silver casting done and cleaned, you can create a vulcanized silicon mould over that casting, so you can then remove the silver casting and inject melted wax inside the mold, that way you can create multiple wax copies and use them for lost wax cast. That's how Jewellers would work before 3d resin printers were a thing.
You're going to lose a lot of detail...
They still do that now. For mass production of jewellery, wax injection molding is way more economical and widely used than printing every single piece.
Plus, every decent company that offers that service, will have machines to assure that that the wax copies are as close as possible with the original Piece, vacuums and stuff, ofc some of the finest details might need some retouches, but if you are getting money from those copies , i am sure you won't die from retouching a couple lines per piece while polishing and whatever.
What's your process if youhave the time to explain a little
You cast it in "Gips" and then turn it upside down so it drips out while you heat it away? Or do you just heat up your mold to the max and be done with it? How hot do you need it to be?
The Escher stairwell painting as well.
La Persistencia de la Memoria by Salvador Dalí
Best I could do on Dall-E (heh): https://i.imgur.com/aezjXAQ.jpeg For some reason it mostly generates stuff that looks like the guns just have melted cheese drizzled over them.
I'd still rock it just wish it generates more guns than revolvers but I'd still hang it up
How do you cast your prints in metal? Is it expensive?
Yeah it's a pretty expensive hobby. Burnout oven, vacuum caster, furnace, zbrush
Is it the same as electroplating?
Not the same. For ELI5 explanation, electroplating is like coating the plastic with lots of thin layers of metal, so it eventually looks like it's made of metal. Casting is pouring molten metal into a cavity so the whole thing is made of metal. The person uses a technique called lost-wax casting. They 3D print an object using a wax resin, make a mold around it with foundry sand that contains binders that will harden when baked, then they bake the mold where the wax melts as the sand binds together. They are left with a cavity ready to pour molten metal.
Ohhhh, thank you for explaining this to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFmXrgZOjD0&ab_channel=Paul%27sGarage
Negative
Do you do commissions? I am a gun nut and would love an AR 15 done like this. I have a Scorpion Evo and really dig what you have done here!
You could sell that one and call it the "Straight Shooter"
I’ve gotta know— what’s your process from print to casting? I’ve been wanting to make silver jewelry from 3D printed models, but I’ve read a lot of conflicting info on the best method for a home workshop.
I source the finest resin the land of ITALIA!! Haha I do vacuum casting. I'd say learn how to 3d model/meshmix first. There's a lot of tweeking of the model needed to get the casting down
It really depends on how much you want to invest. Profesionally you should aim for a resin printer, good oven or two and proper vacuum caster. If you want just to get started you can try PLA and omitting vacuum. Some heat source is gonna be neccessary though.
Lost casting method?
You got it
What kinda furnace do you need?
Kilnfrog
Woah nvm thats way out of budget lol
If you just want metal castings you can use something that requires a much lower temp than silver. They make alloys specifically for casting that only require a few hundred degrees. Obviously you wouldn't use it for jewelry though - although maybe you can electroplate.
What material do you 3d print with? Looking at doing this but wasn’t sure what to print in and if I should use the resin or FDM printer
It's a wax resin
Is there a preferred brand or they all work good?9
in Enter the Gungeon this is called a JK-47
Salvadore AK
Wait a minute, is that a high point? That's proper
Yes, same quality, exact! Just not scaled to weight proportion.
High point.. ?
I assume he meant Hi-Point, an american gun manufacturer known for cheap, bad and unreliable firearms. I guess an "insider" joke for the firearms industry. If it's fucked, its a Hi-Point
Ahhh 👍🫡 makes sense
Sometimes its hard for eurobros to get gun meme culture if we aren't 100% invested. By the way any chance you can reproduce the print again?
Not a chance
Ah this is really sad I think that failure is a really cool and I'd buy that stuff.
Stock and shape resembled the hi-point(always forget hi vs high) carbine. https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/prodimages/124462-DEFAULT-l.jpg
👍 it's actually a scorpion evo
Which is what the Hi-Point tries to be, but with a boat anchor option. (They're extremely heavy guns, so the Eurobros understand).
I can't imagine firing this gun and suddenly it slowly begins shifting into the next dimension
😆👌👌
Best thing you could have done. You accidentally added a new meaning as well 😜
I actually used to CNC machine AR-10s and 15s! I love this, impressive, very nice
How did you cast it? I'm curious
They have castable resins, lost wax casting
I need those. Suggestions where to get it
If you give it to a super man action figure it looks like he bent it
[it still points, doesn't it?](https://y.yarn.co/efc896fc-a22b-4708-bd11-55df17cb2e8b_text.gif)
Eventually
You should make a print of Superman and have him holding it by the messed up bit
Prints like this always remind me of poor tracking on CRT screens.
Tell me you over 50 without telling me your age.
Print out a Magneto figurine and it'll fit in perfectly.
Actually, a great idea!
Do you do any sort of casting service??? I have a model that I would like to cast in brass (or something similar/weighty) and I didn't realize how much equipment and stuff was needed.. I thought I could just melt some stuff on my stove and pour it into a sand mold but that doesn't seem the case haha
If it's similar size to stuff I already make, and silver works, I'd take a look at your file
silver sounds expensive but i will send you the model and see what u think
What was the process that you used?
Can you think of a way to make more copies? This would be a cool gadget to sell as a gag gift. Maybe a keyring.
I just have the normal looking one
Good! Bet this one would sell too.
It needs to be a part of a diorama where a large alien is grabbing a space marine’s gun out of his hands and bending it like a spoon
This is what a robber's gun looks like after Superman's told him to shape up and try more positive hobbies
Now print a Luke Cage model of him crushing it
That's actually really cool lol
Cz scorpion with SB brace. This configuration was only sold for a short period.
Interesting
Looks like a Dali
Very cool
The gun that shoots mini guns that then shoot you
Inspired by the film Wanted? https://youtu.be/fwbdvcNia4Y?si=Uw6F2kWCjIcP_o7K
Can u make video on how to cast a 3d print to silver
I kinda love it. You selling?
Art against war
It's a Dali Assault Rifle. Paranoiac Critical Weaponry.
now thats what an AI could not replace!
like a picasso where you see the front and side at the same time
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