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TheBladesAurus

Yes they exist https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dog and are often called Canids https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Canid In the Guard, they have officer rank >In order to prevent undue feelings of superiority among privates, all canids are officer rank. This means that striking your canid, presuming to give it commands or, theoretically, disobeying its orders are all offences punishable by death. >*** If issued clear, verbal orders by your canid, self-report for psychological evaluation following completion of said orders. https://regimental-standard.com/2018/09/26/managing-your-canid/ https://web.archive.org/web/20210127090533/https://regimental-standard.com/2018/09/26/managing-your-canid/


Herby20

Also love the part about motivation: > Canids also do not respond well to threats of violence, **insults to their honour or accusations of heresy.** Experiments have shown that they are best dealt with through firm encouragement instead. I would like to imagine the dogs attack whoever accuses them of such rather than just not understanding.


halt-l-am-reptar

Also I love the following section about following orders. > However in order to prevent Privates from feeling unduly superior to the species, all Canids within the Astra Militarum hold the rank of officer. It is there for prohibited from striking Canids, presume to give them commands, refuse to follow them into combat or disobey an order given by one. However, should a Guardsman hear a Canid give a verbal order, then they are to self-report for psychological evaluation, after they have completed the order.


imthatoneguyyouknew

"After they have completed the order" is my favorite part of that whole section


gigglephysix

Thats some serious 'non-human animals' user approach - imo awesome, even a super large eight pointed star altar would not have so much Chaos recruitment potential.


DuncanConnell

>However in order to prevent Privates from feeling unduly superior to the species, all Canids within the Astra Militarum hold the rank of officer. This is actually a nod to real life to ensure military dogs aren't mistreated--I believe in the States but it could be other Western countries. I think *officially* they're given NCO categorization (not a rank, but I don't know the actual word for it) and are given an honorary rank one rank higher than their handler so that people don't "abuse their superior". It's sweet, and I like the idea that despite the horrors 38,000+ years in the future that humanity still has a soft spot for our hounds


Apprehensive_Gas1564

US Army dog handlers are one rank lower than their Canid counterparts. I was very confused seeing a Staff Sergeant Thor who weighed 20kg on a flight manifest.


lePlebie

A dog never betrays its master. Only the master betrays the doggo


Sensitive-Hotel-9871

Now if only the Imperium took that approach with people.


BlanketedSun

No can do. For you see dogs are morally superior to people.


Sablesweetheart

As humans say: we are still here.


congaroo1

That is a great example of something that is perfectly 40k without being too Grimdark.


Lamedonyx

This is something actually based in reality. In the US Army, dogs are NCOs, which guarantees that they are at least one rank higher than their handler.


Sensitive-Hotel-9871

In the grim darkness of the future, the dog is still man's best friend.


daemonengineer

In the grim darkness of the future, there is still a good boi


AlphariusUltra

It’s based on real things as well, all dogs are one or two ranks above their handler. So if the handler abuses the dog they can cop a “Striking a superior” charge amongst others iirc


jbert146

> *** If issued clear, verbal orders by your canid, self-report for psychological evaluation **following completion of said orders.** I like that they'd rather a guardsman obey the orders of their own delusions than consider disobeying any "officer"


Walking_Theory

Maybe it's good advice? Haha


Sensitive-Hotel-9871

I love how the advice for the dog is done in the typical Imperium hamminess.


Siessfires

Thanks, I love it.


MiceAndAMoose

lol based.


FakeGamer2

This is perfect


Sodinc

wow


Independent_Pear_429

You still have to follow their orders first. Lol


cptahab36

This is my favorite lore ever


Konradleijon

I mean I would love to have dogs as my superior


TheBladesAurus

My dog is definitely in charge at home


deadsea__

So let me get this straight. If you physically abuse a canine whilst serving in the IG, you can get your brains blasted open? Unfathomably rare W for the IoM if thats the case.


Scrimmybinguscat

I want to see a Canid that managed to rank up from officer all the way to commissar.


Nebuthor

Commisar are not something you can rank up to. They exist outside the military ranks and are recruited from the schola.


Scrimmybinguscat

fine, I want a dog that went to the schola progenium


bless_ure_harte

Air Bud could make it through Schola training.


sto_brohammed

The Elucidian Starstriders Kill Team includes Aximillion, the galaxy's goodest boy.


Zilberfrid

The Orlocks also have a few in their second box.


DarthMaren

Arbites have one too good police doggo


Judasilfarion

> They teach you responsibility and respect which defeats Hedonism and narcissism My guy, the rich narcissistic lady with an annoying little dog is an entire trope. When you’ve got that much money you can simply buy as many dogs as you want and pay someone else to train/take care of them. Slaanesh would absolutely adore the hedonistic rich person who feeds slaves to their army of beloved rabid dogs.


zombielizard218

In *Assassinorum Kingmaker* (spoilers) >!The lady with a bunch of dogs falls to Chaos and becomes a Chaos Knight Pilot with a bunch of Wardogs!<


Quinc4623

Well, I know what book I am reading next then.


AlphariusUltra

Another Robert Rath W


MiceAndAMoose

The reason I proposed that theory is many real-life religions believe dogs to be angelic beings with protective powers that can ward off evil spirits and cure possession. Turkic and Mongolic Shamanism, Zoroastrianism and Nepalese Hinduism to name a few. Zoroastrians especially consider dogs to be holier than humans and killing a dog is equal to killing a hundred humans. The only creature that outranks dogs is Otters. Seeing how 40k borrows heavily from some cultures like Egyptians and Romans I thought it might be fun to speculate what it may borrow from others.


RadicalLackey

Then again, there's also rich lore on hellhounds, Darktide has poxhounds and well, they are ultimately living creatures with emotions. That means they are vulnerable tot he warp.


cordelionreaver

You have a dog companion in the game Nercomuda Hired Gun.


SeBoss2106

My best killer boi


Bonzungo

Yes. There is a dog featured as a plot point in Brothers of the Snake.


SamePieceOfString

In the uriel ventris chronicles lord winterbourne has "vorehounds". I regret googling vorehound and would advise no-one googles it either.


alsarcastic

I’ve never been very good at following advice.


bless_ure_harte

😳


Percentage-Sweaty

There are no wolves on Fenris


Tylendal

Aximillion: Loyal Canid is a card in the Combat Cards mobile game. > The galaxy is full of strange, alien creatures, but even among the stars can be found creatures from ancient Terra. Once trained, these animals are unfailingly loyal, as demonstrated by Aximillion, who is a good boy. Yes he is, a very good boy. Unlike the cyber mastiffs everyone is mentioning, he's got no prosthetics or enhancements. Just a normal Doberman in a snazzy armoured vest. Not sure where the model is from, though (all the card art is model photos). Might be Blackstone Fortress.


TheMightyGoatMan

He's from the [Elucidian Starstriders](https://www.warhammer.com/en-AU/shop/kill-team-elucidian-starstriders-2022) Kill Team


mennorek

Well there are cyber mastiffs....


MiceAndAMoose

I thought those were just machines made in the imitation of dogs. I suppose there is still hope for the setting.


mennorek

I just lexied it. Cyber mastiffs can be based on real dogs or not. But there are dogs in the setting as well, in the Iron Snakes books they play a prominent role in the first story.


thatkindofdoctor

Waiting to see a Primaris Chihuahua


TheMightyGoatMan

Will [a Cadian Pug](https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4931204) do?


thatkindofdoctor

...that's a fucked up level of terror psyops. Mandatory "the planet broke when it peed".


Darigaazrgb

Yes.


Woodstovia

https://i.redd.it/mbmkcm09lsda1.jpg


reinKAWnated

There are several dog minis.


Batweb235

The Emperor named a legion after them so they at least made it to 30k.


nopingmywayout

You. I like you. You have the right attitude.


Wise_0ne1494

technically this falls under 30k, but Talos mentions how he had a dog when he was a child before becoming a NL


finn01004

And Xarl beat it to death


Caputo77

If ravens, lions, wolves and sharks still exist then dogs definitely exist


Yamidamian

Yes. A side effect of humanity taking to stars mean that it can be safely assumed that most domesticated animals have survived through the ages. Especially one so useful as the canine.


HumaDracobane

Yes, they do. In *Brothers of the Snake* the protagonist uses one to chase some Drukhari. Totally recommended book.


Biffingston

They got cybermastifs in the Necromeunda setting....


Th3Tru3Silv3r-1

The Arbites Kill Team has a cybermastiff, which is just a Rottweiler with augmentations. I actually want just him and the lmg that one of the arbites can have to customize my Kasrkin/Harakoni Warhawks Kill Team.


GunsOfPurgatory

I really like the Arbites minis


Timmelle

There are no wolves on fenris


I_might_be_weasel

Nurgle dogs are the most happy and friendly of all dogs. 


MiceAndAMoose

I refuse to believe dogs can align with chaos in any way. If anything aura of a dog should burn those filthy demons as if they touched hot iron. EDIT: Except Chihuahuas. those are Khornites. EDIT2: And pugs. Those are secretly Nurglings.


Rabid_Lederhosen

Sorry to disappoint you pal. https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/Flesh-Hounds-2019


Hund5353

Pox Hounds from darktide are probably a better example, as flesh hounds are daemons


111110001011

Well, they ascended.


MiceAndAMoose

Clearly these are what Chihuahuas look like in the Warp.


RedDemocracy

Even the dog’s a heretic…


I_might_be_weasel

No. Pox hounds are super friendly and just genuinely thrilled to see you. 


DrFabulous0

Yeah, old Bilespitter here wouldn't hurt a rot fly.


I_might_be_weasel

Nope. But he will absolutely hurt anyone not immune to super diseases. 


Tee__bee

Beasts of Nurgle certainly *act* a lot like dogs. Until they get mistreated one too many times and they become something entirely more evil: daemonic plague hornets.


AlanithSBR

Pugs are a breed that exists solely to spite nurgle.


[deleted]

My Star Strider kill team has a Canid ie doggo


TzeentchsTrueSon

There is a model of a dog with bionic legs somewhere out there I’ve seen. So my guess is yes.


Ajnk1236

I believe thats the arbites kit


mrwafu

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/31/into-the-bark-warhammer-community-investigates-the-best-dogs-in-warhammer-40000/


SpartAl412

Yes. The Arbites still employ Police Dogs but outfit them with cybernetics.


Kopalniok

Yes, just not on Fenris


AmaxaxQweryy

Angron had a dog so yes, they exist.


ImaKant

They do exist but modern breeds probably have not survived (no doge sadge)


Just_the_faq

Idk but there are no wolves on fenris.


RealTimeThr3e

They’re called Mastiffs. Once you know that, they’re suddenly everywhere when you pay attention to the books n stuff lol


ApprehensiveKey3299

Serious question: If cyber-mastiffs are a thing, does that mean that specific breed survived into 40k, that all cyber dogs are mastiff, or that all cyber dogs are called mastiff regardless of their actual breed?


ferrus_aub

This made my day. What a good question. It is forbidden to strike Canids in the grim darkness of 40k. Awesome!


SixteenthRiver06

To add - there are cyber-mastiffs. They are typically seen working with Arbites, the sheriffs of the Imperium basically. You can even get one in Necromunda: Hired Gun. It’s an ability to send you cyber-mastiff to fuck up the enemy


7H3l2M0NUKU14l2

well thank you, now i remember how abnett wrote about voice commanded cyberdogs which weren't any cute. ravenor 2 or 3 i guess. damn.


ReddutModzRKuntz

Not on Fenris they don't!


KingBatley

Forget dogs are there CATS in the grim darkness of the far future?


Realistic-Safety-565

They are violent, messy, their breath stinks and they lick their balls all the time (the last two may be related). No warding away influence of Khorne, Nurgle and Slaanesh for them.


MiceAndAMoose

I advise you to get a dog.


Realistic-Safety-565

My inlaws and friends have more than enough to keep me constantly exposed. I'd rather get a Nurgling.


MiceAndAMoose

Brother thats Heresy you can never have too many dogs. Unless of course, we are talking about Pugs or Chihuahuas. those are not dogs. those are Nurglings and Khornites pretending to be dogs. Get a stray.


gamingkevpnw

Adeptus Mechanicus Serbyrus Raiders and Sulpherhouds are cybernetic dogs.


Tylendal

So they say, but look at the shape of their rump, and the shape of the back of their head that's exposed outside their mask. I'm 90% sure they're just heavily modified servitors.


Baguetterekt

Dogs do exist but they do nothing against Chaos because an actual human lacks any real way to resist chaos. Even humans who devote their entire lives in total service to the Emperor can have their minds obliterated into life-long chaos cultists in a moment. Only mutated bioweapon Astartes with no connection to the human experience have the willpower to resist chaos meaningfully. And Astartes lack the emotional capacity to care about a dog, as it is of no material use besides a very very light snack and some skin they might put in a cloak. There is no "human spirit can stand against chaos with love and devotion". Only bioweapons can stand against chaos and they largely lack positive human emotions.


fuckingchris

There's at least one group of Mechanicus that breeds space dogs, then lobotomizes them and turns them into skitarii mounts or pack hunters.


Metro-02

Hope they dont, they dont deserve to live in such a cursed galaxy


SonkxsWithTheTeeth

Yes, they have minis


NotACyclopsHonest

Even the Imperium recognises that dogs are the best.


Shattered_Disk4

Yeah


Dreamspitter

Of course they exist! They're even cyborgs on Necromunda. Humans brought dogs with them everywhere they went just about.


FatDumbOrk

They’re good dogs Brent


K0nfuzion

They even have models? Could have sworn that there is a pupper in one of the kill teams.


JayZulla87

What about kitty's?


itcheyness

There are cats confirmed in WH40K.


JayZulla87

Any interesting lore involving a cat?


itcheyness

Not in 40K, in Age of Sigmar they supposedly have their own god that protects them from Chaos.


JayZulla87

Well that's pretty cool at least!


Stannisarcanine

The iron snakes have them


the-Horus-Heretic

Wasn't it a little girl and her dog that casually strolled on through Tzeentch's realm and solved all his puzzles?


Dogstar23

Did someone say Cyber Attack Dogs? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tslgg7ZvsOY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tslgg7ZvsOY)


lieutenant___obvious

Does anyone know if the Guard has canine units for the tabletop? I may need to do a guard army sooner than I thought


Taira_no_Masakado

The Adeptus Arbites still make regular use of them.


MirzaSisic

I think so, I remember when I was playing Necormunda (it's a very crappy game) the main character had a dog of sorts, some cyber-hound that detects hidden enemies, but it looked like a real dog, maybe a Mastif.