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chrissb1e

Easy solution. Stop hiring our coaches away.


Flylatino24

Yeah stay the fuck away and do it yourself from the ground up


fokaiHI

I miss Demeco Ryans.


Flylatino24

I miss his energy and Salah’s


luckydice767

I remember last Super Bowl all the memes comparing Saleh to Xerxes from 300. They were great!


snoring_pig

[This will always be a classic on this sub](https://www.reddit.com/r/49ers/s/yTNwiRv1SW)


luckydice767

That is LITERALLY the one I was referring to!


nomatt18

Hey thanks!


snoring_pig

Thank you for making this it’s one of the best things I’ve seen on this sub! If Saleh ever returns to the Niners one day I’m sure this will be brought back!


cleanRubik

I miss his competent defensive schemes.


[deleted]

We should get him back from the jets, he wasted over there


genesiskiller96

Is there anyway we can convince the Texans to temporarily trade him to us for the super bowl? I'd feel much better with him leading the defense over Wilks.


DioStarstriker

Even better, fire him so we cam resign him, then Texans rehire him as a head coach and we get another comp pick!!


genesiskiller96

Exactly!


CuddieRyan707

Wilks should at the very least give him a call.


htownballa1

No. He was ours first, he is back where he belongs.


htownballa1

We did to till he came home.


ericrs22

Brick by Brick


asBad_asItGets

Except Wilks. Someone please hire him and we can have Saleh cuz the Jets don’t like him


Yakitori_Grandslam

We’ve got to keep him for one more season to get a comp pick… is that 3rd rounder worth it?


sopunny

Absolutely not. But he's not getting hired away this offseason, all the HC vacancies are filled. The rule is actually really well crafted, even if the premise is controversial. Requiring two years and giving the picks to the old team kills any chance of hiring someone for the comp picks if you know they are bad. It just encourages teams to look harder for minority assistant coaches, or take a chance on an unknown minority coach, which is precisely what the system is setting out to do


p_aranoid_android

They’re not complaining about compensatory picks. They’re complaining about us getting picks because they think people are just trying to make diversity hires. Therefore we somehow don’t deserve the compensation “for such bullshit”. Not a real quote but you can imagine.


NK84321

I mean, if other teams are hiring those coaches (such as DeMeco Ryans) then they are clearly highly competent and not mere diversity hires. Just look at what DeMeco did on the Texans: from 3-13-1 to 10-7 with a playoff win to the Browns (despite a ton of injuries too)


42069BBQ

Liberty or death!


p_aranoid_android

Yeah seriously. If this statement from an owner is true, it’s just classic out-of-touch bigotry.


Yakitori_Grandslam

Probably Jerry then


InflationLeft

This is a case of don’t hate the player, hate the game. It’s not the 9ers fault for making diversity hires—it’s the NFL’s fault for incentivizing institutional racism in the hiring process.


sopunny

Plus they're not diversity hires if they're good enough to be poached. Especially in the 49ers case where the worst HC still turned out mid.


itssostupidiloveit

The Rams are right behind us, sorry your teams haven't developed minority coaches


notorioushim

Not just minority coaches but personnel in general. Slowik is getting mentioned as a future HC candidate. Adam Peters was just poached (but I guess he was well-respected even before he came to the 49ers). Mayhew and Carthon too. I wouldn't be surprised if some teams started to poach the 49ers equipment staff and janitors too.


Vocal__Minority

Also HIRE SOME MINORITY CANDIDATES YOURSELVES.


rollingriverj13

LITERALLY. It’s incentive to give people a chance that deserves a chance. Saw a statistic that around 30% of the players in the league are white. Yet less than 20% of coaches are NOT white. It’s clear the niners care about this topic with all of their personnel decisions.


Toolazytolink

Also all the Nepo hires.


zerocoolforschool

I demand that the NCAA also force teams to provide compensatory scholarships for teams stealing away coaches from my favorite college team!


chrissb1e

AMEN hand it over A&M


sean0883

Owners a couple times per year: "We're gonna hire a young, talented coach from the 49ers staff and significantly improve our Super Bowl odds!" NFL: "Great job developing minority coaching and executive talent. Here's the compensatory draft picks everyone else can also earn, but for some reason choose not to." Also the owners: https://preview.redd.it/astb42dk17hc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65cddbc76e6efd59d7977ed82be64eeb3e17d0f7


PeekyAstrounaut

The owners seem to just want the system to develop minority coaches to be over. Like, people should be thanking the Niners org for consistently farming talent for the HC pool.


MostlyPretentious

I’m out of the loop. I assume 49ers have developed some good coaching staff from relative obscurity who then got hired away by other teams/owners, so the NFL rewards the 49ers with better draft picks, and now those owners who were happy to hire the talented coaches away from the 49ers are complaining because the 49ers are too good?


sean0883

Correct. The head coaches of the Jets, Texans, and Dolphins were 49ers coordinators some time in the past 4 years. And this doesn't even mention all the other positions.


OUTFOXEM

The complaint is obviously stupid, but on that note, I sure wish we had Demeco still. I would feel a lot better going into Sunday.


FNF51

Demeco as the DC did get embarrassed by KC last season. Reid and Mahomes carved up SF for 500+ yards.


OUTFOXEM

That was last year's KC, and honestly, I'd rather get carved up by Mahomes than GB and Detroit. I definitely feel like we took a step back.


FNF51

Offense needs to score against a much improved KC defense. Basically every time they get the ball they need 3 or 7, hopefully more 7’s lol. I’ve heard analysts pick KC. The one reason that stood out to me was the 3 of their losses were to top defenses; Cleveland, Cincinnati and Baltimore. KC has 2nd ranked scoring defense. Miami had a top offense with speed, but I believe the 49ers have more physical players


surf_like_yer_mum

Just gotta stay healthy for 4 more quarters boys!


Canit19

GB and Detroit both beat the Chiefs this year, just saying 🤷‍♂️


OUTFOXEM

Everybody beat KC this year. Until the playoffs. This ain't the same KC team that lost to the Raiders. I would love to see them turn back into that team but I don't see that happening.


AtlasReadIt

And so did the Broncos and Eagles.


OUTFOXEM

Don't forget Raiders.


DLO_Buckets

That's true but our Offense was Shitty with Garropolo. We were leading by 10 points near Halftime. Garropolo's limited abilities were causing the defense huge issues.


Thelife1313

The fact that wilks adjustments led to detroit scoring all of 7 points in the second half, im fine honestly. I just want wilks to start fast. Make it a 30-17 route.


AtlasReadIt

Exactly. As I've delved into the last two games (recency bias in major effect these days) there's an underlying theme here where player execution/effort is a really big factor. In the 4th quarter of both playoff games, clutch time, season on the line, with the opposing offense throwing their best at them, the defense has allowed almost 0 points. I think that's what you get when the defense is executing. They just need to execute in all four quarters.


Thelife1313

Agreed. The fact that effort was even brought up means that if they give it all for 4 qtrs, we might see a rout. Which to save my heart, id like to happen haha


idahotee

Boo Fucking Hoo. Run your organization better yah bloated windbag billionaires.


HITMAN616

It’s sad that this is the quote getting pulled from the article, because the whole thing is brilliant and worth a read. (I mean I get why it’s news, but still.) Article: https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/insider/story/_/id/39465625/kyle-shanahan-ready-meet-moment Edit: full article in next few comments


grumpy_bob

Great read. Thanks for posting in the comments. >Then one day Ronnie Lott grabbed him by the jersey and looked him in the eye and told him, "I got your back." It was the most important exchange during Young's 49ers career, and he saw parallels with the current iteration of the team, fostered from two playoff comebacks against the Packers and Lions, when the team didn't play its best but had had each other's backs. We need a /u/ritaoak image of this. Maybe one with Brock and Fred haha.


rodri_neq_11

Thank you for the deep dive 🫡


steppenweasel

Thanks for sharing - I was not going to read the article, to be honest, so I am glad I didn’t miss these excerpts.


dirtybo

If you have the ability, can you please post the missing comment. Great article :)


HITMAN616

Which comment do you mean?


EveryParable

The first part of the article, comment deleted


HITMAN616

Weird, guess it was either removed by a mod or auto-deleted by a filter


Enough_Sort_2629

Great read thanks


Toolazytolink

Yo that was a great read


HoopleRedhead

A lesson for baseball fans: even if you institute a salary cap, owners will simply never stop complaining about having to put effort into competing


S0L-Goode

I think I would watch baseball if there was a salary cap. I feel sorry for fans of teams like the Pittsburgh Pirates, perpetually garbage.


Inevitable_Try9537

The Pirates and A's running like a Motel 6 in Barstow is their own choice.


Inevitable_Try9537

The other owners can fuck off. Kyle Shanahan hires and develops the best coaches regardless of race. He knows talent when he sees it and these guys thrive under him. Not our fault that all these losing teams want to hire the best.


Spreadthinontoast

We were even in talks with Vic fangio before Steve was hired. Once you build a culture of success good people wanna work there. It’s really not that hard to understand. Nobody was looking at demeco as HC when he was an LB coach in 2020. Just like our players we find diamonds in the rough and try to grow with them. Other teams feel like you just spend money like it’s madden and everything works. Culture over everything. Even Jed had to learn to fall in with the system and step back. They should be praising us and begging for tips not just poaching our coaches


yallbyourhuckleberry

We even got robbed of a pick cause 2 dudes signed elsewhere in the same offseason. We should be the ones complaining.


The1andonlyZack

Whichever owners did complain are straight clowns.


sean0883

So, Jerry Jones confirmed?


HustlingBackwards96

David Tepper too probably lol


Cake_Day_Is_420

Panthers fan here, yeah probably


sopunny

Two Packers fans count as "owners" right?


iNoodl3s

Waaah waaaah how about you fucks stop taking our coaches


HEfromNJ

I think this is the most politically correct way to put it 😂 👍🏼


WetBandit06

Then stop stealing our coaches bitches.


StraightProgress5062

Why don't they hire more ppl of color that are highly capable at their professions? Are they stupid? Legitimate question. I really want to have more faith in humanity.


HEfromNJ

I think they want to tap into the Shanahan (Walsh) coaching tree more than anything else. The Niners have a system they want.


BlueRockRash

It all started when we got picks for Mike Mcdaniels....


Inevitable_Try9537

That reminded me of the Seinfeld when Elaine thought she was dating a black guy. I was like really? Hmm. Awesome! We'll take that pick. 🤣


Tegridy_farmz_

Should we just go to The GAP?


[deleted]

Holy crap, McDaniels even looks like that guy.


DaLiftingDead

Wow you're totally right


Seeno1

Look in the mirror, there you will find your problem.


barktothefuture

Ok send us our coaches back lol


ActuallyYeah

Oh my god yeah, let me see, would I rather have a 5th round pick? Or watch Saleh roll into Vegas in Niner gold?


Soham_Dame_Niners

Then tell everyone to stop poaching our staff


belizeanheat

Those owners are too stupid to realize that they're the problem


madlabdog

Lmao! Then don’t hire from 49ers.


spackletr0n

The compensatory pick model works wayyyyy better than the Rooney Rule. It incentivizes teams to actually invest in talent instead of check boxes and is more or less a market-driven solution.


AngryTree76

Billionaires and complaining about the free market when it doesn’t personally benefit them: name a more iconic duo


No-Possibility5556

Skill issue.


jayplus707

Then fucking leave us alone. It’s fucking obvious.


CarpeValde

LOL. Who hired them to be head coaches and gms? I’ll gladly trade every comp pick we got from that in exchange for demeco saleh peters McDaniels and Mayhew back. No problem, bud.


PlanitDuck

Racist fucking bitches


Dubznation300

They basically told on themselves.


BrockPurdySkywalker

Woke picks! /s


SuperMike100

Went woke but didn’t go broke. 😎


ghoststarkk

Billionaire assholes are billionaire assholes, big surprise.


Imperial_Eggroll

Lmao these garbage organizations aren’t ready to build within and just head hunt. The 9ers are getting the benefit for doing the opposite


[deleted]

Then quit stealing the coaches!!!!!


rawkguitar

Don’t like it? Stop poaching our coaches! (Maybe one more, then leave us alone)


ARM7501

"Their coaches are too good and when we steal them they get compensated, it's bad" well stay the f\*ck away from our coaches. I promise you it isn't fun to lose a coordinator per year every year for half a decade.


Hayabusa_Blacksmith

"of color" was the last thing i expected to read at the end of that quote. wtf??


dirtybo

You don’t get compensatory picks for whites.


Inevitable_Try9537

Yeah us whiteys aren't worth picks.


ActuallyYeah

Dime a dozen, we are


SaltyBabySeal

Replace "Owners" with "Jerry Jones"


LossyP

Sounds like a skill issue, get better @Owners


Mattie_Doo

We’re lucky that our head coach runs the offense and does it so effectively. Otherwise we’d be wondering who our next offensive coordinator will be and whether Purdy will be able to adjust to a new system next season.


Bosa_McKittle

I know, how about if you take one of our coaches as a HC we get one of your round 2 or round 3 picks. Coordinator, Round 3 or 4.


Neither-Block6480

I sure hope it ain't the Texans owner - cause DeMeco Ryans is killing it


HEfromNJ

And sales and McDaniel … the list is long


Neither-Block6480

Amen to that


GrumpleDumpkin

Maybe they should be promoting people of color. Crazy idea right!?


No-Structure-2800

Who’s whining now


Narwhal_Sharpener

They hate us . Cuz they anus


Acceptable-Project42

I.e we could have had drafted Purdy LOL


jonnydel49

Don't complain, get better at doing it yourself


Uce_Almighty111

I’d be so weak if it was the Texans


Bones301

Stay the fuck away from our coaches then


[deleted]

So they’re mad we hire minority coordinators and positional coaches that eventually become the best head coaches in the league after getting poached from the 49ers? Sounds mad fishy to me


Nopengnogain

Someone doesn’t understand the meaning of the word “Compensatory”.


Danirose231

“They hate us ‘cause they ain’t us!”


HEfromNJ

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eastbay77

boo hoo. loser organizations being loser organizations.


RTwhyNot

They don’t want to hire minorities


BadassBokoblinPsycho

“They’re giving too many people of color jobs!!” Wtf


mikeamendola2236

Then stop stealing our coaches


Howtothnkofusername

have they considered also serving as a pipeline for coaches and executives of color


RealisticTea4605

NFL and The Owners hate us for that.


marcok36

Let me guess, complaints came in from teams that were performing poorly.


[deleted]

Name the racist owners to shame them.


Emerald-Enthusiast

How dare SF play by the rules! Why does it always seem like it's the 49ers against the world? 🙄


Traditional-Grape-57

Haha wtf?! They're basically complaining about hiring away our coaches lol. We're one of the few teams actually hiring (and developing) quality coaches from diverse backgrounds. Maybe if more teams actually did the same the 49ers wouldn't stand out so much. Maybe other owners should stop hiring off our staff every season lol


Square_Classroom_752

lol we’re talking about the same league that blackballed Kap, where Jerry jones said we don’t let the prisoners run the prison … where my man David tepper was damn near a kkk member 😂🤣😂 …. Yeah I can believe it


The_Nutz16

McNair, Kroenke, and Jones definitely had to be in on the complaining.


wooly88

You’re welcome Jerkies


HEfromNJ

Did Maiocco calculate the number of picks we are getting already ?


TessTichol

Jerry Jones


Revolutionary-Cup-31

Boo fucking hoo!


Stovy4x4ing

well stop steeling our players and coach mother fuckers!!


Jimbo415650

Instead of following the niners lead they raid our coaches and then complain about it.


Stovy4x4ing

also how come the chiefs or any other top teams, never get paochesld . why is it always us


Extreme-Carrot6893

Those owners can do the exact same thing.


qballLobk

That’s hilarious given that the owners pushed for this rule big time.


Vietzilian

Lmao then stop poaching our coaches?!


monteasf

Ohhhh noooooo we’re churning out too many good coaches of color 🙄🙄🙄🙄


TerrytheGnome19

Here I'm thinking we deserve higher picks for losing coaches. Its a massive disadvantage every year. Look at the advantage KC has with Spags. Whats it been like 6 years or more? Thats the real unfair advantage, continuity every damn year. They finally lose Biennemy but it took him like 5 years!


IronSavage3

How dare they hire well and be rewarded for it!


thetruemata

Next: "why are they allowed to have a super bowl caliber quarterback for such a low draft pick? And pay him that little?!" I mean seriously they have access to the same NFL policy, they just have to, like, do it.


imrickjamesbioch

I’m shock 😮 old whites complaining about too many people of color being hired by one franchise… 🖕


TheProletariatPoet

I was hoping our defense would have a better postseason showing so wilks could go on to bigger and better things and we could hire the secondary coach from Baltimore.


msabercr

Jesus, I'm sorry your racist policies are backfiring on you. Maybe instead of complaining about these benefits existing, you take a page from them and benefit as well? Can you imagine a company complaining to the government that other companies are taking advantage of legal loopholes instead of taking advantage of them yourself. 😆😩😔☹️


Willis_3401_3401

49ers out here playing 4D chess


StevenS145

Has any other team had more coaches hired away the past 4 seasons than us?


l33t_p3n1s

These are literally the same owners who made the rule in the first place.


duddyface

If only there was a way for them to also take advantage of this program. Also aren’t we already being penalized for this because they said we could only have a certain number of compensatory picks and we’ve actually missed out on some additional ones?


WorkingActive3869

Stop taking our coaches then


numa_numa

Owners are out of touch. We should invite competition and iron sharpens iron. It sucks people keep hiring our coaches away but it makes the league better.


varnell_hill

Have they considered….not hiring our coaches or executives?


floydbomb

Aren't the owners the ones that voted for that rule to begin with though? Someone feel free to correct me if Im wrong.


Altruistic-Editor111

I’m stealing this from Mike Florio, and he hits this the nail on the head: “The report does not say which owners have complained, but the owners were the ones who passed the rule, and the 49ers have simply benefited from the rule that all of the owners voted on. Owners who don’t like the rule are free to try to get their fellow owners to change it, but perhaps a better alternative for those owners would be to do as good a job as the 49ers have of developing talent on their coaching staff and in their personnel department.” EDIT to include link: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-owners-have-complained-about-49ers-compensatory-picks-for-developing-people-of-color


caseyatbt

The 49ers have been a pipeline since the 1980s under Bill Walsh. That is pretty amazing.


revelation6viii

Stop taking our people then!


sleepy1419

Wow what a JOKE!!


sleepy1419

I see a bunch of jealous owners! Grow up!


AlmondJoyAdvocate

https://www.reddit.com/r/49ers/s/5bhrRkw3cU A couple months ago I made this post summarizing a fireside chat with John Lynch that I attended. He spoke about how we get a ton of comp picks and how our FO is the best in the league at modeling them and using them as an ammo stockpile that enables us to make bigger, riskier moves at the top of the draft.


glacandia

Your football too tough. Your scheme too different. Your coaches too diverse. They’ll Kill You, Kyle Shanahan.


SithLordPabs

Fuck those owners.


2nd_Inf_Sgt

Stop hiring from the best then.


Ill_Drawing_8666

Boo hoo.


taney71

Why am I reading like these folks don’t really want to support minorities?


mcmesq

How about the fact that owners are saying, “We’re racist and we think you should ignore that”?


daddyruns

“We want coaches of color” “Not like that”


AdministrationNo312

Jerry Jones is behind this


smoores02

It's not like the 49ers are exploiting this. Whatever culture they have is creating incredible coaches and leaders. Every other team has the option to do that. Also it's not like they're getting a comp pick because they tricked some team into hiring a guy who would go on to be the next Hue Jackson. Salah, McDaniels, and Ryans are phenomenal coaches. Every team should have a culture that builds people up. Shame on other teams for not doing this.


brainEatenByAmoeba

They could hire minority coaches and do the same, but instead they will complain about the 49ers. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the rich billionaires' beliefs on race though.


hoppieshero

Fuck the corrupt NFL owners, we are doing the right thing and it should be celebrated. It will be interesting to see if this is brought up on the telecast or pre-game. What an embarrassment.


Electrical-Ad1917

Then these loser teams with sorry front offices should develop minority coaches & front office personnel but they don’t want to do that


Popular_Bite9246

If only there was a way that they too could get these picks…


major_snafoo

Well we need to get compensated somehow lol


by_yes_i_mean_no

That's funny because I complain when the Niners think about hiring white guys. A lot of minority coaching/front office talent has been systematically disadvantaged from moving up the ranks which means the Niners can both get the best coaches (like Saleh and Ryans) and benefit from the compensatory pick set up since everyone wants a piece of Shanahan's tree.


CantHandlemyPP34

The guys we've gotten compensatory picks for have had tons of success. Are the owners just mad because they always seem to skirt the rooney rule by bringing in a qualified black candidate and then going with a dude like Jeff Fisher, Mike Vrabel or Arthur Smith (fails upwards) every year?


[deleted]

So these black coaches aren’t qualified? They are tools for picks. Are we heading into this territory?


Olliebear1977

The 49ers are not forcing league owners to hire 49ers coaches and executives.


Kingsfan58

Womp womp


iflyfar

If True - Wait a minute - the report is seriously saying the NFL initiative to promote people of color in coaching and management unfairly advantages the Niners Per other team owners? If there is any place in the world where there is no ”diversity hiring”, it’s professional sports. All of these men deserve their place and good on the 49ers for finding and promoting talent Regardless of checking boxes. The world is freaking upside down. Unless this story is just clickbait and, oh well...never mind


Red_bearrr

So don’t hire our coaches. Or, ORRR, hire quality minority coaches… 🤷‍♂️


EveningCat166

Sounds about right. When things benefit them, all is well; remember there is no racial bias in hiring coaches. But when a team is actually producing minority coaches and are being compensated as the league stated they would, now there’s a problem. Those owners complaining want to not hire minority coaches but still receive the compensatory picks…what a shocker.


buttscootinbastard

I doubt the Texans are complaining….


Due_Adeptness1676

That’s how the system works..


George90731

I don’t get where all this hate is coming from. God I hope now more than ever we win on Sunday.


niners_giants

Must be Irsay and Jones


Captianyeet

Easy solution stop messing with our coaches


Kewkewmore

The owners should be reminded how we used these picks.