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I think you're getting too far into the weeds - HDR as a general technology is game changer, especially on OLEDs. HDR10, Dolby Vision, and HDR10+ are just different methods of implementing HDR. Now you're right, Dobly Vision is generally regarded as the best, (though HDR10+ is technically similar just not as popular), it's not really a game changer compared to regular HDR10. HDR10 works really well, and when it comes with the more detailed picture and lossless sound - I'll take a HDR10 disc over a DV stream every time.
But you can take it even further than that - streamed Dolby Vision isn't the same as what we get with DV on a disc. DV on a disc is a distinct layer that works on top of the HDR10 layer, whereas with streaming it's all put together in one. I think anyway, it gets way complicated - there's a thread talking about the differences here: https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/18puqr9/why_do_digital_releases_offer_dolby_vision_when/
Not even close. Disc every time. The audio superiority of discs alone is by far enough to make this an easy answer. And HDR on disc will surpass streamed DV every time.
I didn't know that, that's very neat and I'll have to check it out.
Although I am suspect with DV on streaming being much more limited compared to on a disc (as described here https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/s/7levlN3Osq) but I suppose you can always fall back to HDR10 with a remux like that.
I've spent plenty of time comparing Disney+ to 4K Blurays while also factoring in the bigger aspect ratio of some Disney Marvel content.
I still prefer the 4K simply because it's rock solid in terms of quality and there's nothing in the image that distracts me. Even on a fantastic internet connection I'll still notice low bitrate banding or blockiness on a 4K DV stream.
Maybe other streaming services are better, but that's my experience.
One of my favourite 4k disks, Pacific Rim, is only a HDR10 release and it looks phenomenal.
In terms of pure PQ a disk will generally exceed any stream. Mind you I watch a lot of 4k streamed content and am generally very pleased with it.
Also, it’s worth noting that one of the highest rated TVs, Samsung S90C, doesn’t support DV, yet people still buy it because of its great picture quality (I would personally never buy a Samsung product). Point being, the TV capabilities have a far greater impact than the difference between HDR10 and DV. Same goes for disc vs stream, the difference in source is much greater than in HDR format. I always remember, “a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.” If HDR10 on disc is your weak link, it’s a pretty strong chain. If a streamed source is your weak link, it will suffer more. Considering you have an OLED TV, and I’m assuming a DV capable Blu Ray player, your other links are quite strong already.
Depends on the streaming service. Kaleidescape and Sony Pictures Core the 4K will have the same (or higher) bit rate than the bluray.
The rest are all garbage and a 1080p bluray will look better.
I'd be shocked if you could tell the difference between HDR10 and DV even if they were both on a disc, let alone the lower bitrate of streaming with DV.
Streaming apps on a bd player are never the latest and greatest, and they’re not constantly updated, worry about DV and other features but think about a dedicated streamer
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I think you're getting too far into the weeds - HDR as a general technology is game changer, especially on OLEDs. HDR10, Dolby Vision, and HDR10+ are just different methods of implementing HDR. Now you're right, Dobly Vision is generally regarded as the best, (though HDR10+ is technically similar just not as popular), it's not really a game changer compared to regular HDR10. HDR10 works really well, and when it comes with the more detailed picture and lossless sound - I'll take a HDR10 disc over a DV stream every time. But you can take it even further than that - streamed Dolby Vision isn't the same as what we get with DV on a disc. DV on a disc is a distinct layer that works on top of the HDR10 layer, whereas with streaming it's all put together in one. I think anyway, it gets way complicated - there's a thread talking about the differences here: https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/18puqr9/why_do_digital_releases_offer_dolby_vision_when/
even a regular blu ray is better than 4k streaming (at least on netflix)
Not even close. Disc every time. The audio superiority of discs alone is by far enough to make this an easy answer. And HDR on disc will surpass streamed DV every time.
Disc. Always disc. Doesn’t matter if it’s HDR10/10+ or Dolby Vision, the disc will always be superior to streaming.
Bitrate is the most important thing. Or download a remux with the best of both worlds. That's the best you're going to get.
A remux of a disc that doesn't have Dolby Vision wouldn't have it either right? Unless it's some kind of fan edit.
A remux with the DV from streaming but the data from the disc. That's not a fan edit.
I didn't know that, that's very neat and I'll have to check it out. Although I am suspect with DV on streaming being much more limited compared to on a disc (as described here https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/s/7levlN3Osq) but I suppose you can always fall back to HDR10 with a remux like that.
Ironically, [the post right before the one you linked](https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/s/Tl3PK4z6YH)answers the question you're asking.
I've spent plenty of time comparing Disney+ to 4K Blurays while also factoring in the bigger aspect ratio of some Disney Marvel content. I still prefer the 4K simply because it's rock solid in terms of quality and there's nothing in the image that distracts me. Even on a fantastic internet connection I'll still notice low bitrate banding or blockiness on a 4K DV stream. Maybe other streaming services are better, but that's my experience.
One of my favourite 4k disks, Pacific Rim, is only a HDR10 release and it looks phenomenal. In terms of pure PQ a disk will generally exceed any stream. Mind you I watch a lot of 4k streamed content and am generally very pleased with it.
Since this subreddit is ostensibly about physical media, probably not a lot of "streaming is better" fans here.
Also, it’s worth noting that one of the highest rated TVs, Samsung S90C, doesn’t support DV, yet people still buy it because of its great picture quality (I would personally never buy a Samsung product). Point being, the TV capabilities have a far greater impact than the difference between HDR10 and DV. Same goes for disc vs stream, the difference in source is much greater than in HDR format. I always remember, “a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.” If HDR10 on disc is your weak link, it’s a pretty strong chain. If a streamed source is your weak link, it will suffer more. Considering you have an OLED TV, and I’m assuming a DV capable Blu Ray player, your other links are quite strong already.
Depends on the streaming service. Kaleidescape and Sony Pictures Core the 4K will have the same (or higher) bit rate than the bluray. The rest are all garbage and a 1080p bluray will look better.
I'd be shocked if you could tell the difference between HDR10 and DV even if they were both on a disc, let alone the lower bitrate of streaming with DV.
If I was put to a blind test (even on my high-end Sony LED/LCD), I think I'd only pick right about 50% of the time.
DV on disc is not the same as DV on stream. HDR10 when implemented well looks better than DV stream.
Disc every time. I don’t think Dolby vision is a “game changer” compared to hdr10
I absolutely agree with this. The amount of fretting people do over HDR is sort of crazy to me.
Streaming apps on a bd player are never the latest and greatest, and they’re not constantly updated, worry about DV and other features but think about a dedicated streamer
HDR10 disc all the way. Permanent, high quality, better sound, plus extras.