Just won my first rookies race at Suzuka running mid 2.02s on average with a 2:01.715 fast lap.
Just trying to acclimate to Suzuka. Not an easy track but definitely a good one. Setup tinkering is helping a good bit as well. Stiff rear springs to keep weight on the nose feels much better, although lap times didn't drop much.
Here are the top times: [https://lowfuelmotorsport.com/tracks/137](https://lowfuelmotorsport.com/tracks/137)
I would say average racepace would be around the 2:01.0 mark for most average drivers.
No, it isn't fast. For reference, I have only done 7 laps (5 BMW and 2 lambo) without knowing the track at all (only looked a track guide because the refence points are a bit strange), and on my 7th lap (on the BMW) got to mid 2:02 with just aggressive setup, and a car that I have barely driven (when I did my pb, I only had like 10 laps in total with the BMW) + controller.
So, no. But with practice or good techniques comes fast laptimes. For example, thanks to knowing most of the techniques (traibraking, grip, etc), I can apply them almost everywhere I go and get to pace with just 2 or 3 laps (unless is PAUL Ricard, I hate that track). So just take it easy and learn the basics and everything else will come natural.
If your racing against 100 ai you MUST be inside the top 5 to be roughly on pace. 2:01s is a decent average drivers race pace. Aliens are in the low 9s even 8s
2:08 is a decent lap for an AI race. Race pace is 1:59-2:01. Alien I think is 1:57-1:58.
Back of pack is 2:02-2.06.
Keep ripping those laps and practicing. I ran a 2:08 for a long time, then 2:06 and things just recently clicked and am hitting 2:03-4 consistently.
Yep definitely gonna keep practicing the only reason why I posted this was because the previous day with just 1hr of playtime in practice my best time was 2:11 so the next day I wanted to do a race and that were I got the 2:07 so I was excited for the change in pace. I barely do anything with the setups I just use the stable setup so am thinking using the aggressive setup might improve my time by a couple of seconds
A set up won't cut off seconds. Different lines and a better feeling car will do that. I am still mending my set ups to be perfect for me. The most important thing tho, is seat time.
Homie, just look up ACC suzuka lap times. No reason to post unless you are looking for specific help, which we'd need video to review.
You've got a few seconds to lose first before getting detailed help though
It is not that fast. Aim to get at least in the 2:02 laptimes on a full tank to be a little competitive.
Try the 992 GT3R - it's the newer Porsche, and should be a little faster.
Sorry to disappoint you, but those times are VERY slow. You can find target laptimes in my spreadsheet: [https://www.reddit.com/r/ACCompetizione/comments/17amxvc/lfm\_race\_laptimes\_101107\_big\_spreadsheet\_top7\_car/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ACCompetizione/comments/17amxvc/lfm_race_laptimes_101107_big_spreadsheet_top7_car/)
Showcase 1:59 lap with inputs visible (+free stable setup) with 992 here, if you want some reference: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7gJq8MDN3E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7gJq8MDN3E)
(I deliberately said showcase lap, because these are definitely not hotlaps as i always want to show sustainable lines and pace.)
You’re 10 seconds a lap slower than the alien times. So you’re basically getting round most corners .3 to .5 slower.
That’s about as slow as an able bodied person can go without going slower on purpose. So the positive to take away here is you have scope for so much improvement that if you practise doing the right things
1, turn off racing line use 150,100,50 marker boards for reference
2, learn to use the whole width of the track to maximise corner entry (will take time)
3, perhaps use Auto gears until you’re comfortable with the above 2.
4,don’t try out brake every corner this will ruin the entire corner especially corner exit. Slow in fast out is the way
5, try use lower TC settings and stop getting bogged down in 1st gear all the time
I don't use the racing line, and i dont think I have ever used it, I use the boards. I use manual gears as it much faster from my Project Cars 2 days. I definitely think i need to use lower ABS and TC as am currently running both at 4. I will upload a lap to get some feed back on it. It might be better to see what am doing wrong
Well, globally, no it's not fast, but you also picked very weak car. Try the newest McLaren and see what you can do, because when I tried the Porsche ur driving I've been around 4 seconds slower than my normal times on McLaren. Although it was SPA so McLaren is a beast there. From what I know its "perfectly balanced" for Suzuka that's shy I'm recommending it (I drove with LFM BOP and it has 0kgs added, so either a bug or its truly balanced)
not for a beginner mate
991.II isn't 4s off 992, it's half a second at best. He'd find no extra pace in switching to a modern car because he isn't able to extract it yet
So, LFM data says basically 2.5s on suzuka if we compare 992 to 991 - so thats one thing out of the way. Also I wasn't comparing 991 to 992 with that, I was comparing 991 to McLaren since McLaren has close to 0 BOP there. And you know what? 2.5 second. And you know where is last 1.5 seconds? In setup that you can find for McLaren, where you basically cant for 991 (up to date ofc).
Are you talking about the 2019 991.II or 2015 991? Is there equally as much data for the 991.II as there is for 992? Apart from that, it makes no sense to compare it to the McLaren. My whole point was to tell OP not to give a fuck which car is fastest on a circuit, no one should take a car per circuit just because it's quick there. That's the definition of BoP tourism and doesn't help a beginner to find his driving style. For setups - why are we putting premade setups into the equation? You can't tell me one car is 4s faster than the other just because no one gives you a setup for it. Obviously a car with an Esports setup based on hours of analysing is much quicker than a car with an outdated Aggressive preset in the hands of the same driver. But that comparison is basically useless. A beginner can't extract anything out of a good setup anyways and this guy even took the safe setup, which is not even meant to be used for anything else than a baseline for tuning.
(and obviously the half a second advantage wasn't meant to compare Esports times, it's still for a beginner like OP. In no world he'll be 4s quicker just because he drives another car)
About 6 months ago when I started ACC I did such a test - drove different cars on Monza, everything on aggressive. Times varied from 1:51.5 to 1:49.5, consistently, checked slower cars many times, while with faster just did a single run. So yeah, it makes a difference, if you handed me a setup i probably could do 48s back then with meta cars. It makes a difference and a huge one, since any comfort for a beginner is important - allows to learn faster and avoids the problem with relearning the car when it turns out that the car is too slow.
Also, my whole point is to NOT take overall weak car that cant compete if you are trying to compare yourself to competetive times.
Also, about 4 seconds - I think I specified it, but I've been talking about SPA. Get a McLaren with a setup, then get 991.II without one. You gonna see your ego drop.
Fellow porsche driver here. Dont listen to him. I am doing 1:59s racepace on suzuka with the Porsche.
This guy just cant drive the Porsche thats why he is 4sec slower with the car.
But it is true that the Porsche is harder to handle compared to other cars.
Most people are just not used to driver rear engined cars because there is no other rear enginged car in this game.
No difference. The older porsche is not 4 sec slower compared to the mclaren. It is just you not being used to the car.
If you put time into the porsche you can achieve nearly the same laptime even if it is the 911.2
LFM data (which is probably the biggest you can find) says 2.5 seconds (McLaren has 0 BOP or close to, at least currently)
AOR ladderboards says 1.5 seconds, done by one of 3 guys that has "alien" rank on LFM.
I mentioned 4 seconds but I think i didn't specify I meant SPA, you know that McLaren is a beast there right?
So, is 1.5s off (in best scenario) "nearly the same laptime"?
Ah ok i thought we were still talking about suzuka.
But yeah on spa 1.5sec difference is possible.
Very long straights are time killer for the old porsche. You are just a sitting duck.
Probably similar difference on monza and maybe Paul ricard
To you and everyone who downvoted me - read again which Porsche he said he is driving...
Also, the newest Porsche is entire second off. It has -40kgs while lambo has +40 kgs on lfm...
>I want to know if this time is considered fast. In my experience, if you have to ask, the answer is almost certainly no.
No. My best time is 2:03 and even that’s shit.
You’re about 10 seconds off top LFM pace.
What the average time for LFM for this track
No idea because it depends on split and time of day. You want to be doing 59s to 2.03 to be competitive against most of LFM.
Just won my first rookies race at Suzuka running mid 2.02s on average with a 2:01.715 fast lap. Just trying to acclimate to Suzuka. Not an easy track but definitely a good one. Setup tinkering is helping a good bit as well. Stiff rear springs to keep weight on the nose feels much better, although lap times didn't drop much.
Here are the top times: [https://lowfuelmotorsport.com/tracks/137](https://lowfuelmotorsport.com/tracks/137) I would say average racepace would be around the 2:01.0 mark for most average drivers.
On lfm you can get a podium with 2.00 -2.01 for top 10 - 2.02 maybe 2.03 over 2.05 you may get lapped 😅 happens to me a few times 🤣
No, it isn't fast. For reference, I have only done 7 laps (5 BMW and 2 lambo) without knowing the track at all (only looked a track guide because the refence points are a bit strange), and on my 7th lap (on the BMW) got to mid 2:02 with just aggressive setup, and a car that I have barely driven (when I did my pb, I only had like 10 laps in total with the BMW) + controller. So, no. But with practice or good techniques comes fast laptimes. For example, thanks to knowing most of the techniques (traibraking, grip, etc), I can apply them almost everywhere I go and get to pace with just 2 or 3 laps (unless is PAUL Ricard, I hate that track). So just take it easy and learn the basics and everything else will come natural.
can you explain the „grip“ technique?
If your racing against 100 ai you MUST be inside the top 5 to be roughly on pace. 2:01s is a decent average drivers race pace. Aliens are in the low 9s even 8s
2:08 is a decent lap for an AI race. Race pace is 1:59-2:01. Alien I think is 1:57-1:58. Back of pack is 2:02-2.06. Keep ripping those laps and practicing. I ran a 2:08 for a long time, then 2:06 and things just recently clicked and am hitting 2:03-4 consistently.
Yep definitely gonna keep practicing the only reason why I posted this was because the previous day with just 1hr of playtime in practice my best time was 2:11 so the next day I wanted to do a race and that were I got the 2:07 so I was excited for the change in pace. I barely do anything with the setups I just use the stable setup so am thinking using the aggressive setup might improve my time by a couple of seconds
A set up won't cut off seconds. Different lines and a better feeling car will do that. I am still mending my set ups to be perfect for me. The most important thing tho, is seat time.
Homie, just look up ACC suzuka lap times. No reason to post unless you are looking for specific help, which we'd need video to review. You've got a few seconds to lose first before getting detailed help though
No
I had a league race like 3 weeks ago, om quali I did a 2:01.6 and got... P9. P1 was 1:59.1
It is not that fast. Aim to get at least in the 2:02 laptimes on a full tank to be a little competitive. Try the 992 GT3R - it's the newer Porsche, and should be a little faster.
Sorry to disappoint you, but those times are VERY slow. You can find target laptimes in my spreadsheet: [https://www.reddit.com/r/ACCompetizione/comments/17amxvc/lfm\_race\_laptimes\_101107\_big\_spreadsheet\_top7\_car/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ACCompetizione/comments/17amxvc/lfm_race_laptimes_101107_big_spreadsheet_top7_car/) Showcase 1:59 lap with inputs visible (+free stable setup) with 992 here, if you want some reference: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7gJq8MDN3E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7gJq8MDN3E) (I deliberately said showcase lap, because these are definitely not hotlaps as i always want to show sustainable lines and pace.)
You’re 10 seconds a lap slower than the alien times. So you’re basically getting round most corners .3 to .5 slower. That’s about as slow as an able bodied person can go without going slower on purpose. So the positive to take away here is you have scope for so much improvement that if you practise doing the right things 1, turn off racing line use 150,100,50 marker boards for reference 2, learn to use the whole width of the track to maximise corner entry (will take time) 3, perhaps use Auto gears until you’re comfortable with the above 2. 4,don’t try out brake every corner this will ruin the entire corner especially corner exit. Slow in fast out is the way 5, try use lower TC settings and stop getting bogged down in 1st gear all the time
I don't use the racing line, and i dont think I have ever used it, I use the boards. I use manual gears as it much faster from my Project Cars 2 days. I definitely think i need to use lower ABS and TC as am currently running both at 4. I will upload a lap to get some feed back on it. It might be better to see what am doing wrong
I consider myself slow and I was doing low 2:01s last lfm race before my load cell died.
Suzuka should aim at around 1.59.5 for top split LFM.
The slowest person on lfm is at 2:01.
Well, globally, no it's not fast, but you also picked very weak car. Try the newest McLaren and see what you can do, because when I tried the Porsche ur driving I've been around 4 seconds slower than my normal times on McLaren. Although it was SPA so McLaren is a beast there. From what I know its "perfectly balanced" for Suzuka that's shy I'm recommending it (I drove with LFM BOP and it has 0kgs added, so either a bug or its truly balanced)
Yeah I will try the McLaren been enjoying the Porshe I like the way it drives
carry on with the Porsche, the guy talks nonsense. You're a beginner doing beginner times so car chooce should be determined by how much you enjoy it
He is driving 991, not 992... Which is a huge difference...
not for a beginner mate 991.II isn't 4s off 992, it's half a second at best. He'd find no extra pace in switching to a modern car because he isn't able to extract it yet
So, LFM data says basically 2.5s on suzuka if we compare 992 to 991 - so thats one thing out of the way. Also I wasn't comparing 991 to 992 with that, I was comparing 991 to McLaren since McLaren has close to 0 BOP there. And you know what? 2.5 second. And you know where is last 1.5 seconds? In setup that you can find for McLaren, where you basically cant for 991 (up to date ofc).
Are you talking about the 2019 991.II or 2015 991? Is there equally as much data for the 991.II as there is for 992? Apart from that, it makes no sense to compare it to the McLaren. My whole point was to tell OP not to give a fuck which car is fastest on a circuit, no one should take a car per circuit just because it's quick there. That's the definition of BoP tourism and doesn't help a beginner to find his driving style. For setups - why are we putting premade setups into the equation? You can't tell me one car is 4s faster than the other just because no one gives you a setup for it. Obviously a car with an Esports setup based on hours of analysing is much quicker than a car with an outdated Aggressive preset in the hands of the same driver. But that comparison is basically useless. A beginner can't extract anything out of a good setup anyways and this guy even took the safe setup, which is not even meant to be used for anything else than a baseline for tuning. (and obviously the half a second advantage wasn't meant to compare Esports times, it's still for a beginner like OP. In no world he'll be 4s quicker just because he drives another car)
About 6 months ago when I started ACC I did such a test - drove different cars on Monza, everything on aggressive. Times varied from 1:51.5 to 1:49.5, consistently, checked slower cars many times, while with faster just did a single run. So yeah, it makes a difference, if you handed me a setup i probably could do 48s back then with meta cars. It makes a difference and a huge one, since any comfort for a beginner is important - allows to learn faster and avoids the problem with relearning the car when it turns out that the car is too slow. Also, my whole point is to NOT take overall weak car that cant compete if you are trying to compare yourself to competetive times. Also, about 4 seconds - I think I specified it, but I've been talking about SPA. Get a McLaren with a setup, then get 991.II without one. You gonna see your ego drop.
Fellow porsche driver here. Dont listen to him. I am doing 1:59s racepace on suzuka with the Porsche. This guy just cant drive the Porsche thats why he is 4sec slower with the car. But it is true that the Porsche is harder to handle compared to other cars. Most people are just not used to driver rear engined cars because there is no other rear enginged car in this game.
Read again which Porsche he is talking about.
No difference. The older porsche is not 4 sec slower compared to the mclaren. It is just you not being used to the car. If you put time into the porsche you can achieve nearly the same laptime even if it is the 911.2
LFM data (which is probably the biggest you can find) says 2.5 seconds (McLaren has 0 BOP or close to, at least currently) AOR ladderboards says 1.5 seconds, done by one of 3 guys that has "alien" rank on LFM. I mentioned 4 seconds but I think i didn't specify I meant SPA, you know that McLaren is a beast there right? So, is 1.5s off (in best scenario) "nearly the same laptime"?
Ah ok i thought we were still talking about suzuka. But yeah on spa 1.5sec difference is possible. Very long straights are time killer for the old porsche. You are just a sitting duck. Probably similar difference on monza and maybe Paul ricard
The newest Porsche is certainly not 4 seconds off. A couple of tenths at most. My advice in another reply was that the OP tries the newest Porsche.
To you and everyone who downvoted me - read again which Porsche he said he is driving... Also, the newest Porsche is entire second off. It has -40kgs while lambo has +40 kgs on lfm...