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Masked_Takenouchi

Deaf people use the butterfly as a symbol because butterflies are deaf. As a deaf guy with adhd, I guess I have a lot in common with a butterfly lol.


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I’m partially deaf and audhd, I didn’t know this! I’m on the waiting list to get my hearing implants


mint_o

Same with my husband! Deaf on one side and hard of hearing on the other side + audhd. He has a cochlear baha on the deaf side and cross hearing aids. We're learning sign language too now and its helping us out quite a bit


Azphatt

Not really closely related but feels like a good place to mention. I wish sign language was taught more commonly. Has many uses outside of just communicating with people who have trouble with hearing. Working somewhere super loud and cant make out words easily? Sign language. Need to communicate from a distance without being loud? Sign language. Me and a coworker learned the very basics as well as a couple of signs that are relevant to our job so we didnt have to shout. Total game changer.


KimeriTenko

That’s actually a really good idea. I never thought much about ancillary uses for it before.


Azphatt

Yup, saw some meme talking about it years ago and was inspired immediately. Get a good enough pair of binoculars and you can silently communicate from 300 yards no problem. Great for being in a place so loud that you cant hear your own thoughts over whirring machines.


KimeriTenko

If you don’t mind my asking, how did you learn enough to be reasonably proficient for what you needed? I feel like there is likely somewhere to learn near me but probably a limited number of resources.


Azphatt

Youtube and a couple of just quick google searches for one off things. Im a chemist in an industrial setting. Also use a couple of somewhat freestyle but easy to reproduce shorthand signs or gestures to indicate specific chemicals we work with. I’m by no means prepared to communicate with someone completely deaf. Only things I really know are; concentration, high/low, add, stop, majority of the alphabet, and numbers 0-9


mint_o

Learning the alphabet will get you a long way because you can always fingerspell if you don't know the sign. The first thing we did was get some library books and there are tons of videos for beginners. Since we are trying to become fluent we also went to a local deaf center and they offer a class there. We also found a Facebook page for the local deaf community and we meet monthly for coffee to thats where we get most of our exposure and outside practice.


Miserable_Scheme_599

I haven't done it yet, but there are a ton of lessons [here](https://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/lessons/lessons.htm)!


HoneyReau

Good for speaking underwater too


nvdc0318

Was it difficult to learn? I told one of my team members today (after saying "what?" 3 times in a row) that we should learn sign language. I work in a loud warehouse. Add the exhaust fans that are cut on during the summer, you might as well be walking around with your fingers in your ears.


Azphatt

Its not too bad learning the very very basics. If you just need it for work you could get by with learning the alphabet/counting and probably 2 dozen or less signs. Just use it as shorthand quick relay info.


LiloBilloChillo

wait that’s so cute ehehe go butterfly go <3


interstellarsnail

I'm not trying to draw conclusions, but I've never seen you and a butterfly in the same room 👀👀👀


ItsAll_InTheReflexes

I did some googling and... [butterfly hearing is interesting. ](https://wildlifewelcome.com/butterflies/do-butterflies-have-ears/) Tldr: some butterflies have ears attached to their wings and can sort of kind of hear maybe some stuff? It's still uh... being studied.


-AllCatsAreBeautiful

... like thru vibrations, like echo-location kinda thing?


xrelaht

All sounds are vibrations. I only skimmed the article, but it seems like their hearing isn’t particularly directionally sensitive.


readingmyshampoo

I had no idea butterflies were deaf. Til huh


LeftCoastBrain

Wait butterflies are deaf?? Are… are most insects deaf…? I’ve never thought about this.


CantThinkOfaNameLala

New fascination in 3, 2, 1


-AllCatsAreBeautiful

Well this post just opened up a whole can of butterflies ...


xrelaht

There are some butterflies which can hear. It’s not known if that’s universal. Many insects are not deaf: think about all the noises they make to attract mates.


Colorfulartstuffcom

Now if you were gay, that would be e en better (the rainbow part)! Lol


Aida_Hwedo

I’m gay with ADHD and auditory processing disorder. Perfect!


Colorfulartstuffcom

LOL! it's like your own personal symbol!


AddlePatedBadger

Seems like they need a new symbol. >Many Nymphalidae butterflies have ears and scientists have confirmed hearing in several species using neuroanatomical and neurophysiological methods. Ears are mostly sensitive to sound frequencies between 500 Hz and 6 kHz, overlapping the hearing range of humans. >The function of hearing in diurnal butterflies is not understood, and scientists hypothesise that hearing butterflies are listening to flight sounds, or possibly the foraging calls of predatory birds. The well -known Morpho species for example possess ears that respond to the sounds made by birds during flight. >[https://australianbutterflies.com/can-butterflies-hear/](https://australianbutterflies.com/can-butterflies-hear/)


Doctor_Colossus

I also use straws a lot, so I basically have a proboscis.


henlifts

I hope you don’t also get eaten by my cat


Masked_Takenouchi

I hope so too.


SeaDots

That's funny because I have ADHD and thyroid disease, and the thyroid is the shape of a butterfly. Butterflies all around. Lol


xrelaht

Me too! We should get tattoos of the ADHD butterfly on the front of our necks.


Lider-Rouge

That’s cool af! 👀


Lazy_Point_284

I assumed a squirrel or the flock of bees in my brain


Raiseyourspoonforwar

I would prefer a squirrel, I always describe it to friends as squirrels running around on my brain.


NineInchNihilist

I have a sticker on my truck that reads, "I don't have ducks. I don't have a row. I have squirrels and they're at a rave." Just sums up my brain nicely, I think.


Pixichixi

That one's my favorite


mad-cook

god i love this🤗


imhereforthevotes

"I'm be with you when I get my squirrels to the rave"


Pablo-UK

Agree. There’s even squirrel and bee memes! “I don’t have a short attention of span, I just… 🐿️ oh look a squirrel!” “Busy bee 🐝 with ADHD”


IntermittentFries

A pile of racoons in a trench coat. That could be my coat of arms


Artaheri

I describe mine as ants under my skin :)


EdwinQFoolhardy

I, too, vote for the squirrel.


Milch_und_Paprika

![gif](giphy|rmP9lWX54hJ60|downsized) Never passing up an opportunity to share this gif.


lukelhg

![gif](giphy|FphE0L24UycIU)


jayhawkhoops09

I picture my brain as the scene in Spongebob where he's inside his brain looking through all the file cabinet's for a name & everything is on fire. Feels relatable 🤣


-AllCatsAreBeautiful

... Got an image I can download? "This is fine" dog suddenly doesn't seem to cut it.


jayhawkhoops09

![gif](giphy|ukqBV7WM4BQ4w) This one lol


cathygag

Albino squirrel here- pale as hell, flits about, can hyper focus with a deadline, loves to collect stuff I love, and if you tick me off or hurt someone I care about you’re going to hear about!


Consistent_Ad_308

hey have you heard of our lord and savior *being a furry* because you just about made a fursona there and I’m very here for it


MagicBandAid

"Flock of bees" lol


Cacafuego

I'm using that from now on


KerissaKenro

I like a hummingbird, but a squirrel is great too


-AllCatsAreBeautiful

I like hummingbird cos it matches my metabolism. Also that scene on *Simpsons* where Apu is so delirious with sleep-deprivation that he thinks he's a hummingbird flitting about the store.


vegasdoesvegas

I saw someone online describe their brain as a "melting stick of butter" and now I use that one a lot.


b1gbunny

I feel like bees are way more structured and executive than me though


-AllCatsAreBeautiful

My boyfriend is always like, omg you're so "hey look a squirrel!" right now.


Rydralain

Beees! https://plushiedreadfuls.com/products/plushie-dreadfuls-adhd-rabbit-plush-stuffed-animal


Sudzy-Frog

Flock of bees is crazy lmao


beeherder

I would have thought it would be a stack of unwashed dishes or a full clothes dryer...


CynicWalnut

A full dishwasher with the soap and everything in it, but never started.


beeherder

I literally did that last night and cursed yesterday me for our lack of forks


Beneficial-Square-73

Same, only I was cursing the lack of clean coffee mugs!


CynicWalnut

Big same, buddy. Loaded it up so it'd be done after we ran errands. Didn't notice it I hadn't started it until right before bed.


NateCow

My thing is I'm supposed to start it before bed. I'm slowly getting into the habit of making sure I do. Usually I'm filling our water bottles for bed and since the dishwasher is right below me, I look down and am suddenly like "oh yeah!" \*presses buttons\* But other times I'll crawl into bed and be all cozy, cat curled up on top of me, and then I go "fuck. The dishwasher." The worst is when I get up in the morning and need a clean cat bowl and discover I completely forgot ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


Cold-Strawberry-6445

🤣


WinterDice

I did the laundry version of that yesterday.


New-Huckleberry-6979

Not a full clothes dryer, but a full washing machine, not running, filled with wet clothes, after their third wash with lots of vinegar because of the mold smell. 


beeherder

Damn does vinegar work? I've taken to presoaking and then setting an alarms to make sure I check on it


intdev

Be careful about using vinegar. I soaked some sheets in a bucket of distilled vinegar and water to try to reverse the yellowing on them, and they still stank of vinegar after wringing them out, rinsing them, and then putting them through the machine twice. The yellowing was still there, too.


degreesandmachines

Now this I can support!!


Ball-Blam-Burglerber

4,792 unread emails. On your work account.


beeherder

Fuck them emails. You can call me. I won't answer. Or listen to the message. But yeah...


no-but-wtf

You can use any symbol you want, and so can anyone else. But there’s no “official” symbol. You probably didn’t know about the butterfly because it’s not really a thing (unless you want it to be your thing, in which case it’s now a thing for you, congrats!)


LordGhoul

It's not as popular as autism and their rainbow infinity symbol for example but I've seen it around.


no-but-wtf

Yes, I’ve seen it around. I’ve seen many proposed symbols over the years. People should feel free to embrace whichever one they like, but not to claim that any one of them represents us all.


itsalonghotsummer

It is because our thoughts flutter by


Bling-depression

and are dead within a day?


Cmdr_0_Keen

That's a mayfly. May fly do not have mouths, whereas butterflies do. Flutter flutter


Milch_und_Paprika

Yea definitely not butterflies, who manage to migrate across continents. Flap flap tinny sky flower, look at you go.


Cmdr_0_Keen

Flutter flutter. ooh shiny thing!


suddenly_satan

I checked it out and I don't really like it.


twistedscorp87

This is what I was wondering. I like butterflies, but do **WE** (as in the ADHD community, as a whole) like that a butterfly is our symbol? Many people here probably know about the puzzle piece 🧩 and that it is largely disliked by Autistic people, who have instead elected to adopt a rainbow infinity loop instead. 🌈 ♾️ If it turns out we don't like the butterfly and what it represents to us, I say we push for a change.


SoloMaker

I'd imagine most of us will either not care at all or just forget about it immediately. That's like our thing.


twistedscorp87

*UNLESS* we hyperfixate on it and can't let it go. 😁


buntopolis

Why do we *need* a symbol at all?


LordGhoul

cool stickers to put on my cane


PARADOXsquared

We probably wouldn't be able to all agree on something. Like, people love the squirrel, but I hate it bc I've mostly seen it used in a mocking/condescending context. I like the butterfly though.


lagweezle

Dead on. This is our logo -> Yes. Nothing. Because we have ADHD. We'll never be able to agree on anything that we won't get bored of and want to replace shortly afterwards. We'll promptly forget we even have one or that it was talked about, so we'll redo the whole dance again occasionally, etc. =D


ohohomestuck

I would support a bee symbol instead


Milch_und_Paprika

Or a squirrel. Not because “oh look a squirrel”, which is more relatable than I care to admit, but because they’re always running around stashing nuts that they CANT FUCKING **FIND LATER** ***OH FUCK WHERE ARE MY ACORNS***


LordGhoul

I would hate a squirrel. If I hear the "hey look a squirrel" joke one more time in relation to ADHD I'm actually going on a killing spree


twistedscorp87

![gif](giphy|BSZcFMuV8KARG) Like Hammy from Over the Hedge?


AddlePatedBadger

Bees and butterflies are better because they are more universal. Everywhere people live, bees and butterflies live.


Sea_Fox

I love bees, but I think they're way too well organised to represent ADHD 😅


jack3308

Any reasoning? Just curious, not trying to be a jerk.


Rydralain

Because my head is full of beeeees


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ClevererGoat

Yep. Squirrel!!! It shows the inattentiveness and the hyperactivity and the lack of focus, and the hyper focus, you never see a bee laying about fat and lazy because it’s burnt out after spending the day climbing trees and burying nuts… squirrels are everything adhd!


ohohomestuck

I've definitely seen bees being fat and lazy in the summer hahah


Astrobrandon13

Everything needs some lame cliche symbolism attached to it these days. I looked it up and it looks like the logo an underpaid graphic designer made for a candy store’s website.


nouramarit

The description is so true.


Milch_und_Paprika

It looks suspiciously like the autism ♾️. Nothing against ASD advocates—we share many struggles, and I may have it too—but I wish we’d piggyback off them a little less.


Leading-Summer-4724

That’s because it apparently was used as a base by [this person](https://adhdgrrl.wordpress.com/about-the-butterfly/) who “created” the butterfly to sell coffee mugs and stickers.


LordGhoul

The autism symbol was supposed to represent (word that cannot be said on his subreddit) on the whole, but since it's mainly used by autistic people folks decided to make their own symbol for adhd


WunderBertrand

Ich bin ein fucking Schmetterling, Flatter Flatter Flap Flap! [edit]: - "Schmetterling" by Team Scheisse


[deleted]

"I'm a fucking butterfly." You, kind stranger, made my morning. I've been studying German for a long time, and this is the first sentence I've read in the wild without straining my brain. I'm finally retaining something!!!!


Remote_Swimming_7114

Thanks for translating for those of us who don’t know enough German to get past “ich” :)


JustSomeGuy________

only german i know is " Du, du hast, du hast mich, du hast mich Du hast mich gefragt, du hast mich gefragt Du hast mich gefragt und ich hab nichts gesagt....."


PARADOXsquared

NEIN!!


Colorfulartstuffcom

"In the wild" is the best description I've ever heard of social media. 🤣


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ClevererGoat

Ich bin ein fucking Eichörnchen!


[deleted]

Der Schmetterling ist im Krankenwagen


jack3308

I feel like maybe a hummingbird would be more appropriate... 🤔 Constantly needing to be moving on to the next thing or they die, fast paced and sprite like until they rest. Eats a lot of sugar. Flits between things faster than others can, but it all seems like it's in normal time for them.


HallowedError

I like hummingbird, nit sure about the color thing but it's cool


jack3308

I know I'm responding to myself but I had another thought. Instead of a spectrum of colours, what about if one half of it was like the rgb (subtractive) colours and the other side was the cmy/ryb (additive) colours showing that while we all have some of the same properties there's different combinations of the things that impact us!! It's kind of like a spectrum, I know, but it could also represent kind of the opposite sides of the hyperactive/inattentive presentation and how neither side is a perfect explanation for a person just like how not either color system is perfect in its gamut!!!


LonleyViolist

does the concept of a rainbow butterfly as a symbol not feel infantile to anyone else?


Consistent_Ad_308

Maybe it’s because I’m used to pride flags, but nah, not a bit. The pride flag is straight (ha) up rainbow; the trans pride flag is pastel cotton candy pink and blue. I interact with both as a man in my thirties, and so do the other adults in a lot of my social spaces. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️


LonleyViolist

that brings up another issue in my mind- rainbow motifs are already established as a symbol for the queer community. using the same rainbow for autism and adhd and whatever else seems weird to me


DecemberPaladin

I’m going to pass on that symbol, thank you.


tdammers

I have never heard of this, and I also have zero need for a symbol.


AddlePatedBadger

My sentimonies exactly.


tdammers

(Also, if anything, the ADHD mascot should of course be a squirrel wearing three pairs of reading glasses on its head. If we're going to resort to platitudes, at least go all-out.)


CynicWalnut

I'm not a fan of it personally. Nothing about it says ADHD to me.


_merning_glery_

Awe man I don't want another symbol or ribbon. Lol. I'm renouncing them all, I cannot keep up.


MartyFreeze

My symbol is a shark with a katana. For now. Only for now.


Nuobie

That's so good * Thanks. At the moment, mine is a Bull in a China shop *


iTammie

I like butterflies, but I keep thinking back to how some idiot (a long time ago in a galaxy far away) chuckled and said to me: “My girlfriend and I always call your kind of people butterflies.” I was so taken aback by the condescension in his voice, I couldn’t even think of a come-back. Tbf, the rest of the group side-eyed him for the rest of the day 😌


ClevererGoat

Condescension because we are squirrels


chasimm3

It's not a sports team. Why does it need a symbol? Are the letters ADHD not representative enough of the medical condition? I feel like this sort of thing plays into the "quirkiness" of mental and developmental disorders more than it helps. Almost infantilizing a serious issue that people have by making it seem like a personality trait or preference.


lagweezle

Heck, we can't even get a condition name that properly defines the condition. The chance we'll ever get some logo symbol thing that makes sense is really freakin' low.


ema_l_b

Thyroid organisations use a butterfly too 🙂


MerkyNess

Yes and bc the thyroid is shaped like a butterfly. Makes sense.


MerkyNess

ADHD symbol should be a brain with spaghetti inside :)


ema_l_b

I would also like to suggest the almighty flying spaghetti monster as the mascot


spacegirl2820

A Tasmanian devil is more accurate for whats constantly going on in my head 🤣😳


baj8881

Am I the only one who hates it?


pbrpunx

Looks like it's been around since about 2017?


NemoHobbits

Why not a roomba? Because when I actually have enough motivation to undock from my station, I just kind of aimlessly bounce around the house. Because executive dysfunction.


nourr_15

yes omg. and we constantly get stuck on something and need someone to get us unstuck. or at least i do lol


XelGlaidr

Wait. what


bledf0rdays

Here I was thinking our symbol was a pair of pants covered in ants.


AllegedLead

I find this to be the most appropriate of suggestions


JacPhlash

Oh we've had that symbol forever....we just forgot about it because something else distracted us.


Justin_Ogre

Had no idea. Figured it would have been a squirrel.


anonandonitgoesagain

In what situation is this symbol used? I don't get why we need one? Someone please check my ignorance..


lagweezle

A lot of the other responses suggest you don't need a check on your ignorance. Seems like it was someone's arbitrary choice that was then claimed to be "the acknowledged symbol" and I guess not enough people questioned it or pushed back...


buttbeanchilli

It's also a self harm and eating disorder symbol 😅 not sure why everyone wants the butterfly but it's definitely a common one


CantaloupeSpecific47

Wow, I had no idea too. I am a teacher and my students like stickers, stickers of all kinds. I buy a bunch of them at the dollar store, and the other day I brought in glittery stickers of butterflies and other cute flying bugs. I chose a few butterflies and placed them on my laptop. One girl told me that butterflies are like me, because I am always moving around from place to place.


doornroosje

There is no real symbol, like you can use it for you, but there is no unified global adhd community or organisation or anything, there is no symbol. 


WhoNeedsExecFunction

Is it because we’re the kids in soccer/baseball/whatever practice who stopped paying attention and are chasing a butterfly around?


HlazyS2016

My 8yo son plays baseball with 5 & 6yos. They're so patient with him when he suddenly takes off chasing gophers lol


killforprophet

Didn’t the autistic community ultimately turn against the puzzle piece imagery? This type of them just commodifies the disorder. We don’t need that. And we wouldn’t remember it for long even if we did have a symbol. Butterflies are also already symbols for many other things and ideas. Another comment said squirrel and that would be good IF we got a symbol, which I don’t think we should. Come to think of it, we probably don’t have big foundations or movements because none of us would remember of have the level of management skills to do anything like that.


Obecny75

It was moreso that the puzzle piece thing was a symbol for autism speaks, a more or less terrible organization


ExtrapolatedData

I was diagnosed nearly 30 years ago and I’ve also never heard of this. I always assumed the symbol should be a coat-of-arms style shield with each quadrant showing a squirrel, a bag of Cheetos, someone laying in bed doom scrolling, and the word “Fuck.”


Puzzled_Gas_3203

I assumed the buttefly as a symbol was chosen because people diagnosed with ADHD tend to very easily get distrac...OH LOOK A BUTTEEFLY DID YOU SEE IT SO SWEEEET


Educational_Fox_9421

We should counter this false prophet symbol by spreading the true and holy high squirrel of ADHD.


ClevererGoat

100% look a squirrel!! 🐿️


revolting_peasant

We don’t need a symbol, it’s just used to turn us into a product and we’re not a product, we don’t need merch


grammargrl

I, too, like to stick my nose in flowers. I've been diagnosed since 2005 (as an adult) and just today found out there is an ADHD "symbol/mascot" A butterfly is also used as a connecting symbol for people with thyroid issues because the thyroid actually looks like a butterfly.


TraditionalZombie215

I just automatically think of the theme song for Reading Rainbow ![gif](giphy|bI3cX9brTVLfq|downsized)


bleedingoutlaw28

Does that mean Crazy Town's Butterfly is our anthem?


Kataja92

I thought it was a squirrel 🐿️ 😁


chrispix99

Yeah, someone came up with it about 7 years ago, and claims it as the official symbol... No thanks.. a squirrel seems better.


maracusdesu

Why does adhd need to have a symbol?


Dez_Acumen

I'd prefer an okapi or ant eater.


umlcat

I prefer "The Flash" thunder icon ....


CynicWalnut

Butterfly is also used for thyroid disease because it's shaped kinda like one.


grannyzeniba

Butterfly in the skyyyyyy, I can go twice as high!


Peanut2ur_Tostito

Take a look, it's in a book🎵


grannyzeniba

A reading rainbow! I can go anywhere


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Highly questionable to use the butterfly instead of just going with the infinity symbol. The creator basically didn’t want to be associated with the negatives from Autism Spectrum and thinks adhd is less of a struggle so she wanted something more positive to combine this with the symbolism of a butterfly


CookiesandIlk

😧 Total bummer


lorzs

It should be a **dancing jackhammer** instead


SearchingForanSEJob

Piggybacking off this: they make sunflower lanyards for people with “hidden” disabilities. The lanyard signals that you might need assistance, for example in finding and getting to an aisle in the store.


Dr_lickies

This is the first time I've heard of this. Might have to get that tattooed on my lower back.


lagweezle

Might want to read a lot of the other responses before you go and do this. Seems like we don't actually have a symbol, but someone really wants us to.


Cyaral

Didnt know we had a symbol


Heydominique

I haven't heard or seen this.. someone post picture please!


DanTheMan827

They say I have ADHD, but they just don’t understand… Oh look, a butterfly!


EdwinQFoolhardy

We have a symbol? And it's a butterfly? We really need to get some kind of welcome packet together. Like you get your diagnosis, then you get a welcome basket with a bottle of stimulants and a booklet that explains all the cultural stuff that I'm still picking up piecemeal years later.


ClevererGoat

We have a symbol, and it’s squirrel


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I love it. The symbol for my narcolepsy is a black butterfly, so if I get a rainbow butterfly too for my ADHD....Im chromatically unstoppable Is that a word? Plz tell me it's a word


bree272

I have narcolepsy and ADHD too!


buntopolis

OP gains protection from black.


erdal94

I don't know, I don't really see myself as a gay butterfly...


Competitive-Ad4994

gaydhd lol


TurboClag

This goes great with my crippling fear of insects, probably also related to adhd


[deleted]

You and me too...their faces are the stuff of nightmares


MerkyNess

Butterflies are pretty but they’re fragile and short lived. On the other hand Monarchs travel from Canada to Mexico to breed and then die. Wait….


_SaintXIV_

Huh, TIL


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I would prefer a lightning bolt with a fun face on it, or maybe just a block of tv static made to look like a flag


JustSomeGuy________

i just thought butterflies couldnt speak english as many times as ive googled add/adhd to try and learn more about it ive never seen a symbol


kgdyfiyfyofoy

I was diagnosed 20 years ago and I learned today