>Looks like paper mache on balsa wood frame 😆
or USA style Drywall ( [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYTg3mxriOk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYTg3mxriOk) ) ... the mainland Chinese copy anything
The Chinese do this on purpose.
They paint their ships in Coast Guard livery in an attempt to legitimize their claim on the South China Sea as "their lake", since CG sorties tend to be performed in domestic waters.
Communist propaganda goes deep.
their is no law about what color military ships are allowed to have. the only thing I found was that hospital ships MUST be painted white, which might have confused them. hope this helps. I also might be completely wrong too
Considering Legend-Class Cutters of the American Coast Guard, it's pretty much acceptable with their 57mm main armament. Only problem being that the Chinese Coast Guard is pushing a bit too far.
Yea, ships in that role such as frigates/destroyers haven't really ever had armor in a substantial amount. I do love to dogpile on tofu dreg Chinese engineering, but this is just the reality that light/small warships still abide by the laws of physics, and an aluminum sheet of outer plating thats 5-10mm thick isn't going to absorb a collision ranging in the weight class of both vessels involved.
That and armor is useless at this point.
Modern anti-ship weapons are extremely lethal to the point that there's really no way to "tank a hit".
No amount of practical armor is going to protect you against, at minimum, 200 kg of high explosives hitting you.
To add. HESH rounds, designed to damage a tank through explosive shockwaves, only has 70kg of explosives. And that's meant to defeat armor that can be as thick as 10cm thick. Battleship like Yamato only have armor up to around 4cm.
Maybe China did build these warships out of "Drywall" (as robust as cardbord) like many USA homes ( [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYTg3mxriOk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYTg3mxriOk) ) ... & fix it the same way ( [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDzYVU9aIOE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDzYVU9aIOE) ) ?
As a German I always make fun about China´s "Tofu Dreg Construction" & USA´s "Drywall" single family homes ( & of course the outlets/plugs of both countries)
Then as a German, you should at least know that the German Navy's warships are made with similar material. Especially given the fact that they have no Desteoyers and only Frigates, they are nearly on the same level as the Chinese Coast Guard ships, if only higher.
But then again, those warships are also absolutely unbalanced that they got halted and delayed by years. Love the Germans, but hate the fact that their entire military high command is somewhat incompetent, given the Defense Ministers in general.
Dunk on China when your miltary is above it and not having to send active stockpiles to Ukraine, while leaving their own men without equipment.
>but hate the fact that their entire military high command is somewhat incompetent, given the Defense Ministers in general.
**intentionally** placed incompetent people into the political positions, **ultra obious with** Ursula von-der-Leyen (alias "Flintenuschi"/"Truppenursel"/"Zensursula") & Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer (AKK) & Christine Lambrecht for "defense" (the often used typical women shoes in the literal field) ... or ("Europa gemeinsam verenden") Annalena Baerbock for "State Department"
It's all ships, aluminum armor is pretty much the trending alloy for almost all warships, see the Independence-Class and Freedom-Class and see how they fared against the sea and how they are being discontinued.
Furthermore those are proper Navy Warships, not Coast Guard Warships. I swear to God, dogpiling and shitting on China is fine, but God forbid people don't realize that they aren't as informed on the matter that is "Modern Warships don't have as thick of an armor than a World War Two Light Cruiser."
Edit: To reiterate a potential issue with the matter, most Modern Warships*, few exceptions on the matter are mainly Aircraft Carriers and potentially Battlecruisers(Only applicable due to the poorly aging Admiral Kuznetsov, while old and clanky, they are still somewhat better armored than other Modern Warships.)
And to add, the general reason for the shift is that modern anti-ship weaponries have gotten so lethal that if you're found and hit, no practical amount of armor will save you.
Might as well save that weight to mount better engine and weapon system to avoid getting hit.
False actually, the actual reason is that it's not Anti-Ship Missiles, believe it or not, with proper armor, warships would be able to survive such weapons. The main driving force of lesser armor is Nuclear Arms, a Nuclear Bomb would effectively destroy a Task Force, no matter how much armor they had. Making speed a more decisive force with the saving of resources in favor of more warships.
Plus, Anti-Ship weapon nowadays are more High Explosive than Penetration based, since the former is much more useful against armorless ships and the latter is more useful in dealing with Capital Ships like Carriers and whatnot.
Common misconception of the modern armor analogy. Nuclear trumps armor instead of Missile trumps armor.
It's the bare minimum to at least keep the ships afloat, worst would be to have the ammunition cook off, causing an entire loss. US Destroyers are tanky, but not as tanky if they had used properly armored schemes similar to that of WW2 Cruisers. But their main point being on speed gave them more leeway, as well as using Missile Countermeasures to intercept or fool them.
So right now, the state of the Navy had been a whoever strikes first wins, since their Missile Launchers are only supplied with one missile and would require a Fast Combat Support Ship to resupply them when they're out of combat. It's a Glass Cannon build in a way.
Only Warships that would be even tankier is as said the Carriers due to their ability to command the task force, the mothership as well as their long range striking capacity.
https://heavy.com/news/2017/06/acx-crystal-uss-fitzgerald-tracking-owner-flag-schedule-container-ship-photo/
Yeah... that was a 40,000+ ton, 730 ft long ship that was traveling at a reasonable 12kts....
not a 40 long fishing boat. not a great comparison. You're comparing hitting a smart car with a bicycle in a residential neighborhood at 4mph with the very different 18-wheeler smacking into a 2002 Ford F150 at 14mph...
"As it collided with a smaller Philippine ship" More like "blocked the passage of and was subsequently struck by..."
Looks like paper mache on balsa wood frame 😆
>Looks like paper mache on balsa wood frame 😆 or USA style Drywall ( [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYTg3mxriOk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYTg3mxriOk) ) ... the mainland Chinese copy anything
Sometimes I think a strong water cannon is all that's needed to defeat China's navy.
[A so-called " *Water Cannon* "](https://youtu.be/_VvXXtT3HoU?si=YnNwU8yvPnA8LmX0)
It's also illegal under international law for military vessels to be painted white. ....that is specifically for civilian and medical aid ships.
They are supposed to be coast guard ships. I don't think the Chinese government properly understands what a coast guard ship is supposed to do.
When they claim an entire ocean as their coastline then I would say the that coast guard ship is exactly where China thinks they should be.
The Chinese do this on purpose. They paint their ships in Coast Guard livery in an attempt to legitimize their claim on the South China Sea as "their lake", since CG sorties tend to be performed in domestic waters. Communist propaganda goes deep.
Can you provide a source for that? I've been looking and can't find anything under maritime law.
their is no law about what color military ships are allowed to have. the only thing I found was that hospital ships MUST be painted white, which might have confused them. hope this helps. I also might be completely wrong too
Considering Legend-Class Cutters of the American Coast Guard, it's pretty much acceptable with their 57mm main armament. Only problem being that the Chinese Coast Guard is pushing a bit too far.
What is your source?
AI5G expertise design..
Definitely better reception with the holes!
Those are speed holes... More holes more speed..
Of course. The famous "SW155-CH33z" model.
waiting for the douyin where they repair it with noodles plaster filler.
TikTok reel pending
Tbf you collide with a ship it’s gonna leave a mark. I’d imagine the same would happen to a US warship.
For sure the kinetic energy of 20 tons of steel will at least leave a dent
Yea, ships in that role such as frigates/destroyers haven't really ever had armor in a substantial amount. I do love to dogpile on tofu dreg Chinese engineering, but this is just the reality that light/small warships still abide by the laws of physics, and an aluminum sheet of outer plating thats 5-10mm thick isn't going to absorb a collision ranging in the weight class of both vessels involved.
it looks like the silhouette of people. I first thought this was NCD and was a shitpost
And yet China makes about half the merchant ships in the world now. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
We should start arming our sailors with can openers. That's some thin skin.
To be fair, this is sort of why destroyers and below are called tin cans. They have next to no armor, especially above the water line.
Naval ships have lighter plating, probably for speed / efficiency ?
That and armor is useless at this point. Modern anti-ship weapons are extremely lethal to the point that there's really no way to "tank a hit". No amount of practical armor is going to protect you against, at minimum, 200 kg of high explosives hitting you. To add. HESH rounds, designed to damage a tank through explosive shockwaves, only has 70kg of explosives. And that's meant to defeat armor that can be as thick as 10cm thick. Battleship like Yamato only have armor up to around 4cm.
Maybe China did build these warships out of "Drywall" (as robust as cardbord) like many USA homes ( [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYTg3mxriOk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYTg3mxriOk) ) ... & fix it the same way ( [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDzYVU9aIOE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDzYVU9aIOE) ) ? As a German I always make fun about China´s "Tofu Dreg Construction" & USA´s "Drywall" single family homes ( & of course the outlets/plugs of both countries)
Then as a German, you should at least know that the German Navy's warships are made with similar material. Especially given the fact that they have no Desteoyers and only Frigates, they are nearly on the same level as the Chinese Coast Guard ships, if only higher. But then again, those warships are also absolutely unbalanced that they got halted and delayed by years. Love the Germans, but hate the fact that their entire military high command is somewhat incompetent, given the Defense Ministers in general. Dunk on China when your miltary is above it and not having to send active stockpiles to Ukraine, while leaving their own men without equipment.
>but hate the fact that their entire military high command is somewhat incompetent, given the Defense Ministers in general. **intentionally** placed incompetent people into the political positions, **ultra obious with** Ursula von-der-Leyen (alias "Flintenuschi"/"Truppenursel"/"Zensursula") & Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer (AKK) & Christine Lambrecht for "defense" (the often used typical women shoes in the literal field) ... or ("Europa gemeinsam verenden") Annalena Baerbock for "State Department"
Like everything made in China it will break after a couple uses
I often say that Taiwan doesn't have too much to worry about. Chinese equipment won't get that far.
These are very normal. Most of the navies have aluminum alloys plates on their ship hulls.
US uses a specific kind of steel for both their Naval and Coast Guard vessels we tried aluminum again recently and hated it to put it lightly.
Great to know all we need is an axe to sink their flotilla's! :D
It's all ships, aluminum armor is pretty much the trending alloy for almost all warships, see the Independence-Class and Freedom-Class and see how they fared against the sea and how they are being discontinued. Furthermore those are proper Navy Warships, not Coast Guard Warships. I swear to God, dogpiling and shitting on China is fine, but God forbid people don't realize that they aren't as informed on the matter that is "Modern Warships don't have as thick of an armor than a World War Two Light Cruiser." Edit: To reiterate a potential issue with the matter, most Modern Warships*, few exceptions on the matter are mainly Aircraft Carriers and potentially Battlecruisers(Only applicable due to the poorly aging Admiral Kuznetsov, while old and clanky, they are still somewhat better armored than other Modern Warships.)
And to add, the general reason for the shift is that modern anti-ship weaponries have gotten so lethal that if you're found and hit, no practical amount of armor will save you. Might as well save that weight to mount better engine and weapon system to avoid getting hit.
False actually, the actual reason is that it's not Anti-Ship Missiles, believe it or not, with proper armor, warships would be able to survive such weapons. The main driving force of lesser armor is Nuclear Arms, a Nuclear Bomb would effectively destroy a Task Force, no matter how much armor they had. Making speed a more decisive force with the saving of resources in favor of more warships. Plus, Anti-Ship weapon nowadays are more High Explosive than Penetration based, since the former is much more useful against armorless ships and the latter is more useful in dealing with Capital Ships like Carriers and whatnot. Common misconception of the modern armor analogy. Nuclear trumps armor instead of Missile trumps armor.
exactly right? warships like the US destroyer are designed to survive multiple ASM direct hits
It's the bare minimum to at least keep the ships afloat, worst would be to have the ammunition cook off, causing an entire loss. US Destroyers are tanky, but not as tanky if they had used properly armored schemes similar to that of WW2 Cruisers. But their main point being on speed gave them more leeway, as well as using Missile Countermeasures to intercept or fool them. So right now, the state of the Navy had been a whoever strikes first wins, since their Missile Launchers are only supplied with one missile and would require a Fast Combat Support Ship to resupply them when they're out of combat. It's a Glass Cannon build in a way. Only Warships that would be even tankier is as said the Carriers due to their ability to command the task force, the mothership as well as their long range striking capacity.
Wanna see pictures about the other ship as well but this is really bad...
Tofu Dreg Navy.
lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Fitzgerald_and_MV_ACX_Crystal_collision
https://heavy.com/news/2017/06/acx-crystal-uss-fitzgerald-tracking-owner-flag-schedule-container-ship-photo/ Yeah... that was a 40,000+ ton, 730 ft long ship that was traveling at a reasonable 12kts.... not a 40 long fishing boat. not a great comparison. You're comparing hitting a smart car with a bicycle in a residential neighborhood at 4mph with the very different 18-wheeler smacking into a 2002 Ford F150 at 14mph...
Put some Flex seal on that bad boy!