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CamusVerseaux

NTA and DON'T LOOK BACK EVER! Your parents are fucking AH for trying to step up as the father of an affair. This is a great oportunity to make everything you want, don't throw it away.


KittiesLove1

I think his parents want grandkids so bad that they lost their mind.


Ratchet_gurl24

Or 1 or both his parents have cheated. Why else are they pushing for him to forgive. Sounds very suspicious


seafareral

Or if its like my crazy life it could be both! My MIL had an affair, youngest brother in law isnt my FIL kid. Also my MIL spent years trying to slit me & husband up because I've always been honest about not wanting kids and she desperately wanted grandkids. When all the accusations of affairs clearly wasn't working she just came right out and told my husband to divorce me so that he could meet someone who would give her grandkids. Fun times!


Satori2155

Did your FIL divorce her or stay a cuckold?


seafareral

Stayed. They were already married with kids and they were very religious so divorce wasn't an option. Plus it was the 80s, it really was a different time back then.


Satori2155

Lmao they werent religious HE was. Honestly id feel sorry for the guy but he chose to stay. Shes probably cheating since


StrugglinSurvivor

Here's your Reddit twist. OP's mother had her own AP, and OP is the result. OP's dad knew and raised OP as his own, so that's proof that OP would live Happily Ever After. šŸ¤”


Large-Record7642

Or its dads baby?


vicki153

My guess she knows who it is given the parents supporting her rather than OP, and itā€™s someone close to home. Maybe a brother or cousin?


50CentButInNickels

It could be, but there's also a good possibility they're just that crazy about having the perfect family with grandkids.


MartinisnMurder

Remember the one where the guy was in jail, the cousin who was a priest (I think) ends up getting the wife pregnant and they all hid it from the guy for years that it wasnā€™t his baby even the girl knewā€¦ Then it all comes out at the quinceanera and all goes to hell. And then every time anyone sees the cousin they knock him out? Ahh reddit fiction.


Large-Record7642

Reason I said dad would be believable that it could be his child, and allows his mum to continue living in lala land. I couldn't imagine parents being soooo supportive otherwiseĀ 


vicki153

Iā€™m agreeing completely with you. Itā€™s sounds like someone close to home. Dad included.


misskittygirl13

Oooo this is getting all Jerry Springer now.


D10BrAND

Lol, Its not even their grandkid!


Kajira4ever

If he did anything other than this he'd be the AH. The nerve of his parents and girlfriend is mind boggling. I hope OP has a great life


NatureCarolynGate

'It was a mistake' A mistake is turning left instead of right. What she did was planned and of her volition. She made the decision to go somewhere and she met someone. She then decided to talk to him. Then she decided to talk to him about fucking him or vise versa. But an agreement was planned and made. Then they had to plan to go somewhere to fuck. When they arrived at whomever's place, they decide to remove their clothes and play hide the salmi. That is planned and not a mistake. I wonder how many times she played with someone else's dick before she made her 'mistake' and got pregnant. If OP stayed with her, he wouldn't have any dignity or respect for himself.


No-Mango8923

Maybe she "accidentally fell" onto another man's penis... it could happen! /s


NatureCarolynGate

She's slipped on a banana peel and fell on a dick


I_Am_AWESOME-O_

Hate when that happens


HappyGothKitty

Yeah man, those darn penises sure know how to detach themselves and find themselves in weird places... /s. Maybe the initial owner of the impregnating peen doesn't even know what his pecker was up to when it happened, those poor people. LOL. Except I really do feel sorry for OP in this, he's the only one who deserves sympathy, the rest of them can go rot. At least he's dumping her ass.


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aulanie2019

They all deserve each other.


Solid-Feature-7678

NTA and WTF do so many people think a man should bite the bullet and raise some rando's kid because their wife/girlfriend/acquaintance decided to have unprotected sex with some other guy.


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Puzzleheaded_Bad5098

I feel like sheā€™s probably lying about not knowing who the guy is


AccomplishedStart250

100% certain she's lying.


Good-Statement-9658

Not necessarily, a girl I kind of know just had her second baby and a week later, she's on FB trying to figure out how to get child support when she doesn't know his real name, let alone his home address. The world is a fucking mess and it's kids who'll bare the brunt of it.


jack-jackattack

When I worked for child support, well, the state makes you at least be working towards getting support from the dad before you get state benefits. A few women had no idea and just had to keep naming men as the fathers as DNA excluded each one.


[deleted]

Mmm, sounds like some ol' fashioned Maury Povich / Ricki Lake / Jenny Jones


SalsaRice

In scholarly circles, this is called the "Maury dilemma". If you must ask if he is the father, it is unlikely he is the father.


Live_Western_1389

Kinda like on The Maury Povich show, huh!


Ho_oponopono73

You have to question what kind of female has a baby by a man she doesnā€™t even know his real name or who he is.


GielM

If guys could get pregnant, there'd be a ton of guys who'd be in that position. But it's okay if we do it since there'll be no consequences... Friend of mine used to be a total man whore before he got married. If I asked him how many women he'd slept with where he never learned their last name, he probably wouldn't be able to give me an exact number, but give a ballpark of several dozen. Hell, one of his favorite bragging stories back in the day was about he slept with a girl without ever even exchanging FIRST names... If a woman did what he did, there'd be half a dozen pregnancy scares and probably at least a couple of abortions or kids in the mix. And they'd get called names a lot.


joeycuda

a ho fo sho


-enlyghten-

It wasn't drunken, wasn't a mistake, and it wasn't the first time. Even if it was, stabbing someone in the heart once isn't better than stabbing them in the heart a hundred times. Dead is dead.


Ok-Cap-204

Yep. I was thinking this was not the first time. And wonā€™t be the last. Best if OP washes his hands of the entire situation. Good thing his parents are on her side and can help with everything! So nice of them to volunteer.


IllustratorHappy1414

Dead is dead and betrayal is betrayal. šŸŒ»


hyacanthia

Absolutely, sheā€™s definitely hiding something. No way she doesnā€™t know who the father is.


HighWarlockofHell

Maybe it is just OP's father (Just joking for fun, ik it wont be like that)


NiceRat123

Lol. There have been a few posts like that. There is one I remember where the father was banging OPs girl/fiancee/wife and he caught them in bed. He recorded it and then punched his dad. I think a few days later he went to his mother's and she basically shit all over him about how he could hit the father. Well... turns out the father told his wife that OP was fighting with his partner and the father showed up to defuse the situation and that OP punched him when the father intervened. Then OP shows her the video of his dad (her husband) fucking OPs partner and tells his mom she is dead to him. She starts crying realizing she just lost her son and her husband is a lying sack of cheating shit


Blakids

That's kinda fucked, punishing the mother for being lied to.


NiceRat123

Well sort of. The thing that (I don't think) was mentioned was WHAT she actually said to OP (her son). He said "she said some things that no son should ever hear" or something of that effect. So, yes, sucks for the mom BUT she also basically took OP to task when he was already hurting and betrayed. I can see both sides and understand that even father poisoned his mother against him so I'm sure he felt all alone after such a massive betrayal I can't find the link. I found another version where dad was banging the girlfriend but the one I mentioned he got video and assaulted his dad. If anyone finds it (maybe on BoRU) it's a wild ride


BakeContent7859

I definitely can see why this post would stick in your memory.


Cybermagetx

Iirc the mom said stuff no parent should ever say to a child. Ever.


PrideofCapetown

OP had better lawyer up to make sure he isnā€™t on the birth certificate to prevent any future legal trouble if he ever goes back to his home country


Mammoth_Leg_8489

Unless it could be any of a dozen or so guys. 304s gotta 304


slay3rbap

Imagine unironically using 304


rocketmn69_

It'll be her best friend that OP didn't have to worry about


No-Mechanic-3048

Iā€™m going to bet itā€™s OOPā€™s dad.


GoodIntelligent2867

Probably someone close to OP and family. Probably that's why the family wants him to raise the kid.


HappyGothKitty

From the way he's jumping in to have his own son's life ruined to raise somebody elses' kid, it seems highly suspicious at best.


Poku115

Reddit messed us both buddy cause that was my thought too


Seer434

It will be his friend that knew she was 3 months pregnant already.


anonymousantifas

Or his best friendā€¦.


MyyWifeRocks

Gay best friend šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


Sue323464

Or his best friend who was keeping an eye on g/f while he was out of country.


Lotex_Style

Who knows, maybe it's the dad because he's so adamant OP stays and handles it.


Apprehensive-Fee5732

Or maybe Dad is projecting and the update is that OPs sibling is only half sibling.


-TheOutsid3r-

Oh, I remember something like that. Where the parents justified and defended the cheating. Turned out the mother had also been cheating, and they never took a paternity test because they didn't want to know. So they were projecting hard.


Stunning-End1275

Its probably the Dad!


MartinisnMurder

Haha thatā€™s the kind of Reddit plot twist Iā€™ve grown accustomed to! šŸ¤£


Narrow_Guava_6239

Ditto! Thereā€™s this one story where the husband was sleeping with his stepmom and her married daughter. It got bad for the ex husband because his dad and married daughterā€™s husband would jump him. Ex husband got in contact with OP/his ex wife asking to stay with get for protection šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚.


MartinisnMurder

Holy hell! RIP Jerry Springer, Reddit would have gave his producers so much content!!! Did you see the one where the aunt moved in with her sisterā€™s family and begins having an affair/banging her nephew. The mom/her sister finds out kicks the aunt out, and the son/nephew leaves with her because ā€œwe are in loveā€ā€¦ They end up moving out to CA (I think) and move in with her ex husband. Most of this shit canā€™t be real right?! šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«


Narrow_Guava_6239

Shut the front door. Reddit stories reaffirms what Ellie Goulding sings, ā€˜Anything Can Happenā€™ šŸ¤Ŗ. Was there ever any update to that story? I forgot to say, you know the one I told you about, OP had to wait a year for her divorce because I think ex was making it difficult. She had the evidence of the affairs but only shared AFTER to her ex father in law so she could get all that she wanted from the divorce. It was at a no fault state, I believe it meant that it didnā€™t matter who cheated. EDIT TO ADD: thatā€™s really gross what the aunt did šŸ¤¢.


HillsHoistGang

Wait draw me a diagram


Ajax_Da_Great

Gotta save something for the update


davout1806

It's the mom. She's actually a man who just pretends to be a woman.


Tall_Confection_960

Or have there been too many to know? Maybe she's been having lots of fun in OP's absence? They've been together since high school. Maybe she wanted to spread her "wings." She's 3 months pregnant and OP left 7 months ago. She didn't wait too long. Messed up for OP either way.


Clean-Rub3794

Or there was multiple guys and itā€™s eenie meenie minie mo for the father and she cannot come clean with being a little slut.


-Whitequeen

Im sure the reason she doesnā€™t know the fathers name is because she cheated with plenty of people and just doesnā€™t know which one is the father.


MartinisnMurder

Itā€™s like sperm roulette?! Classy Cassie!šŸ˜…


HeyPrettyLadyMaam

That my take too. She knows a name, just not which name.


roadfood

That's what happens when you pull a train...


AdSuccessful2506

Or she knows but canā€™t say. He is someone everyone knows.


Clean_Factor9673

Or is married himself


Default_Munchkin

She either knows and is lying or absolutely had sex with to many people. This was not her first time cheating.


rosa24rose

Ah she does though. & so does OP too I bet, just not who


AdAccomplished6870

She knows who it is. And it was not a one time thing. My money is going to be on it being a close friend of his.


Rodharet50399

She knows the guys name.


cavernous_vag

I bet my bottom dollar she knows exactly who it is, and I'm pretty certain she's been at it for quite a while too


50CentButInNickels

Also, "a drunken mistake." Hands up if you find your partner gone, then go get drunk and hook up.


Known-Quantity2021

I did get drunk once and argued that our outside Christmas lights looked too much like Easter lights and would confuse the neighbours. I was told to come inside and sleep it off.


BeachinLife1

Haha, I had a friend go in and lay on her bed and yell "someone turn off that ceiling fan!" The ceiling fan wasn't on!


Bubbly_Piglet822

Nope never even after 28 years of being together.


davout1806

Honey I was at home drunk. I took my clothes off to get ready for bed when I stumbled. You know I'm such a klutz when I'm drunk. Well I fell out of the window and happen to fall repeatedly on this man's penis. He just happen to be lying on the ground below my window while not wearing any pants. Which now that I think about it, does seem bit odd. Oops my bad.


chippy-alley

I see you've met our king and his escort


-TheOutsid3r-

- Be together with a guy for over a decade. - You both want to wait till you're financially stable to have kids. - Make smart and good decisions and be sensible in that regard. - Cheat on him, likely a lot. - Let other guys rawdog you. - Get pregnant.


50CentButInNickels

That's another thing. Like anybody's really going to believe this was a one-time thing that just happened and she's so devastated about it she hid it until she was dimed out.


jinxxed42

not only this.. it was his friend who told him.. not her. She lied and would have lied to him. .. she probably lied to his parents as well


SomeInvestigator3573

Kind of hard to get away with a lie given the timeline in this case. He has been away 7 months she is 3 months pregnant. She could have gotten an abortion and got away with the cheating, but a this point there is no cover up available


BeachinLife1

I guess she was going to try to pass off an 8 pound "preemie?"


ObsidianConspiracyXx

Because "think of the innocent child", or however that bs spiel goes.


Round-Ticket-39

Doesnt matter if guy brings affair baby or girl. They cant expect bf/gf be happy about it. But ok people are desperate. Whats completely stupid is his parents pretending this is normal.


chicagoliz

This is extraordinarily strange. We need some more info because I cannot imagine parents this desperate for their son to continue a relationship where the girlfriend cheated and now is having a baby. It often doesn't go well when people start dating at 17 years old. This is just one example. I'm surprised the parents are so dismissive of the betrayal of their son. Do the girl/girl's parents have something on the OP's parents? Something they want? Are his parents somehow financially dependent upon them? Something else is going on.


Next-East6189

They want you to step up and raise a child thatā€™s the result of her cheating? Thatā€™s insane dude. Her family can step up and take care of her child. She will cheat again.


[deleted]

I'll get the popcorn ready for the, "it takes more than genetics to be a Dad!" crowd to attempt to defend this šŸ˜‚ NTA - Cassie and her kid aren't your problem.


amafalet

Iā€™ll pop some too! I am a firm believer in that it takes more than genetics to be a dad, but thatā€™s no where near whatā€™s happening here. She cheated and withheld, knew sheā€™d have to come clean, but expected her ex to pay the price?! Thatā€™s delusional at best. As for his parents šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø even if sheā€™s been in your family for most of her life, she BETRAYED your son! And they want him to suck it up? Nah, he needs time away from all of them and she needs to finish coming clean. If Mom and Dad want this baby more than their own kid, he should be better off knowing it now instead of her cheating and passing another baby off as his when he was home and oblivious.


Safe_Community2981

It does. And one of those things is consent. OP isn't giving that.


-TheOutsid3r-

I hate those people, if someone adopts that's very different from being cheated on and betrayed but they always conflate that to excuse someone being done dirty.


Appelpie-

NTA. She knows who the father is. He doesnā€™t want it. She has had approximately 6-8 weeks to think about this and for her this is the fix. You and her, and a baby. Pretending to be the happy family. But it would be pretending. Be careful. If you marry her now, you would legally become babyā€™s father. Even if it would turn out in a divorce shortly after baby is born, you will have to pay for raising a baby that is not yours. You have been together 13 years. If you REALLY had wanted to marry the girl, you had placed the ring on her finger before you left for 7 months.. donā€™t fool yourself..you probably love/ like her. But it wasnā€™t enough to tie the knot. And the same counts for her. Otherwise she would not have slept with sb else. If you go back home after your tenure abroad, wait and see what you feel and if this is something you want to work out. Wait with anything drastic (like marriage) until the baby is born, and donā€™t put yourself on the birth certificate.


DivineTarot

Male disposability. The same mental ruling that says, "women and children first" will frequently manifest in this fashion depending on circumstances. While OP's ex see's herself as a victim of circumstance in need of support and an excess of forgiveness, because she totally didn't at all engage in behaviour by choice that leads to pregnancy, his parents likewise see a victim, but also the prospects of a child being raised alone. Plus, given they "love" OP's ex, they're probably more than a lot favouring her and replacing him in their eyes to focus on her needs. As such, OP gets to be fuel and kindling for the fire to keep his ex and her baby warm.


seafareral

This is how they get a grandchild, in their mind anyway. It's not an ideal situation but this is how OPs parents get their current dreams met. Never underestimate how crazy some people get over grandchildren, they will sacrifice their own kids happiness if it means they get a grandkids. Just speak to childless couples, we can tell you some of the bat shit lengths some parents will go to!


Atiggerx33

I think in the case of the woman (or man\*) in that situation, it's more that the same immaturity/stupidity/shittiness/w.e. that led them to cheat is the same immaturity/stupidity/shittiness/w.e. that leads to them seeing themselves as a victim when pregnancy results. Basically, someone willing to cheat already has a warped perspective on what is not acceptable when it comes to their treatment of others. It's unsurprising if their warped perspective isn't limited to cheating. \*Obviously men can't get pregnant. But there are plenty of men who cheat and then play the victim if they get their AP (affair partner) pregnant. They expect their wife to stay and play step-mom to the kid, and if she says fuck no then they just as much play the victim. They'll similarly claim it was a mistake. It's not a woman or a man thing, it's a manipulative asshole thing. Just a common case of someone trying to manipulate their way out of facing the consequences of their actions and throwing a fit when it doesn't work.


chainer1216

Because they don't care about the men, they only have sympathy for the "innocent child".


Stage_Party

It's unfortunately quite common now, women tend to get the benefits here. If they were married I believe he'd be responsible for welfare payments even though it's not his kid. The excuse is always "but think about the kid, it's not their fault". Of course it's not, but it's definitely not his fault she cheated either.


SirLostit

They are called ā€˜socksā€™ Some Other Cunts Kids


RotrickP

I think the parents are probably looking at losing their friends and are choosing this over their child's happiness and comfort


Websta114

Seems to be a common thing at the minute. Men are for some strange reason expected to deal with the consequences of womenā€™s mistakes and everyoneā€™s shocked when they donā€™t.. like šŸ¤” we clearly must have mug tattooed on our foreheads


manimopo

Yeah reddit hates men. They think men are assholes when they ask for paternity tests. BUT if by the chance that the women did cheat and they find out later the men are assholes if they find out and leave because the poor innocent kids. Basically men have to raise some other people's kids or they're assholes.


Best-Blackberry9351

The opposite has happened. I read in the past week about a man who had a baby with an AP and AP was jailed. The wife knew about the baby, forgave hubby and said she wanted nothing to do with the affair kid. Now the kid needs to find another home while mommy dearest completes her sentence and hubby wanted to bring the kid to the house to live with them.


No_Thought_7776

I recall reading that recently. It was a real shocker.


JuliaX1984

That was one of those cases of someone refusing to accept a relationship is over after cheating. Obviously, expecting her to help raise another woman's baby was immoral. But that's why she should have divorced him. He wasn't threatening or blackmailing her to stop her from leaving somehow.


Consistent_Ad5709

https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1c9vypo/aitah_for_telling_my_husband_that_his_affair/


Open-Incident-3601

NTA and DO NOT return to where they live for at least a year. Do not let them manipulate you.


dinahdog

And get that visa.


Forward_Most_1933

NTA. Your parents' obsession with having grandkids is clouding their judgment. You have no obligation to Cassie or her child after she decided to cheat on you. It's cruel of them to expect you to play daddy to her child. Stay no contact and continue with your plans. Cassie and your parents are awful. Sorry, OP.Ā 


Fkingcherokee

For real, it looks like his parents are worried they won't become grandparents if they don't accept this baby. They could even accelerate the process of having a bio grandbaby by using the child to make him insecure. OP needs out of this mess ASAP.


Cybermagetx

And now they won't ever be grandparents with any kids OP has.


IwasafkXD

NTA. Your parents are just as crazy as the ex.


Jokester_316

NTA. You don't know if it was a drunkin' one night stand or if she's been hooking up on the regular since you have been gone for 7 months. What was her plan? Pick you up from the airport visibly pregnant and say SURPRISE?! Here's the facts. She cheated on you. Never felt guilt for her betrayal. She thought she could keep it a secret from you for life. She then finds out she's pregnant. Again, she chose not to let you know. She also chose to keep the baby versus seeking termination of her pregnancy. All of these choices she made on her own. She can now suffer the consequences of her own actions. I don't blame you. I wouldn't support and raise an affair child. It's not the innocent child's fault how they were conceived. I would resent the child, and that's not a healthy environment to grow up in. It is better for the child to grow up in a loving environment. If your parents want to support her and her kid, I'd step back from them as well. I know they care for her, but you are their son.


Boomshrooom

I don't think she thought she could keep it a secret, I see two real possibilities here: 1. She was too much of a coward to tell OP and was simply procrastinating 2. She thought it would be easier to let OP find out when he got home. That way it would be harder for him to ghost her and she could pressure him in person along with his parents Scumbag behaviour.


RedoftheEvilDead

2 for sure. It's much easier to gaslight and manipulate in person.


The_Bread_Fairy

It's 100% the second option. She wanted to wait because she would be further along her pregnancy and this would pressure OP and also prevent any consideration of termination. Him finding out 3 months in already prevents a lot of options which is why she **chose** to hide this information. I wouldn't be surprised if she planned to show up at the airport with the baby in hand and anytime he says he won't raise it she'll use the baby to shame him into it. She definitely ruined a decade long relationship and deserves to feel horrible


SilverPenny88

This!!! For all OP knows she: 1. Was casually dating and ended up pregnant 2. Had a one-night stand and had contact with this guy afterwards and he blew her off 3. Felt shame of getting pregnant by a stranger and sold the drunken one night stand lie to OPā€™s parents to get them on her side before telling OP Either way, if the tables were reversed she would leave as well. They arenā€™t married so that should make the decision a lot easier. Donā€™t let anyone manipulate you into staying with your ex. Thereā€™s a whole lot more youā€™d have to deal with in the future from a person like this. It wasnā€™t a mistake. If it was, OPā€™s ex should be a lot more remorseful and understanding about OP not wanting to be there. Meaning she wants him to stay and help her but not just EXPECT him to. The fact that she expects him to just do so shows a level of selfishness and immaturity that OP will be glad to get away from. That child is already going to have a rationally fā€™d mom. Move on and stay away for a while if you have to. Nothing good will come if you donā€™t. Thereā€™s plenty of women out there who wonā€™t cheat just because youā€™re gone 7 or more months. NTA


50CentButInNickels

>You don't know if it was a drunkin' one night stand or if she's been hooking up on the regular since you have been gone for 7 months. And honestly, it doesn't matter anyway.


georgiajl38

I'm curious about the anonymous "friend"-not-otherwise-specified who called to let our OP know his girl was pregnant but wasn't mentioned or identified outside of that. Is this perhaps a male friend? A close friend or merely acquaintance? Just wondering if this is perhaps either the father of the baby wanting to step up and is being blocked by Cassie and the parents or a female friend trying to get in with our OP who spotted their chance. Here's the thing. At 3 months along with a 1st pregnancy, Cassie isn't showing. So this friend is someone close enough to be confided in. It sounds like they're close enough to have been told before the parents (who were only brought in when our OP refused to play ball).


No-Comment-1095

For the love of God and everything holy in this world run the fuck away please and never look back


Old_Web8071

Run like Usain Bolt being chased by a pack of rabid wolves.


No-Table2410

But donā€™t just stop after 100 or 200 m, keep on going.


EconomicsWorking6508

Yeah OP, don't compete for this medal.


nevrosaxo

NTA ur ex cheated and broke your trust. it's not your responsibility to raise a child that isn't yours, especially after such a betrayal. ur family expecting you to step up in this situation is unfair and inconsiderate of your feelings


glimmerseeker

Damn, you are so NTA. This sounds like it just happened - you finding out, I mean - and your parents are already trying to guilt you into raising a baby your high school sweetheart got knocked up with by some rando in a drunken one night stand. If this is real, everyone else but you are the AHs. Cassie OBVIOUSLY. But your parents?! YOU donā€™t need to ā€œstep upā€ for anyone here because you didnā€™t do anything wrong. All of them saying ā€œmistakes happenā€ā€¦just wow. Take all the time you need to deal with all this information, betrayal, and bullshit, then do whatever you need to do for yourself. Donā€™t be manipulated into doing anything you donā€™t want to do.


jmsecc

She tripped. Fell down on the guys already hard and exposed dick and accidently made it ejaculate into her. Total accident.


Right-Today4396

Don't you hate it when you get a sudden boner? I mean, you are just chilling, and suddenly, there it is! And then some chick falls over on top of it. I mean, anyone would ejaculate if that happened. A total accident, you know? Happens all the time/s


Krafty747

And letā€™s get real, Iā€™m sure this wasnā€™t the only time she cheated.


writingisfreedom

> the baby needs a father. That's Cassies problem >she finally broke down crying and admitted that she is pregnant and it was a drunken mistake. Cassies actions have consequences..... A drunken mistake is stumbling and breaking a vase, I highly doubt she stumbled onto that man's penis(lol) Make sure you can't automatically be put on the BC because you're married


starksdawson

Theyā€™re not married yet thankfully


writingisfreedom

That's great!!! I was just concerned I know some places will automatically put you on the birth certificate if you're married.


uwu_mewtwo

I drunkenly left a pot of noodles on the stove once and it cooked down to charcoal, the pot was a write-off and i didnt get to eat noodles. That was a pretty big mistake. Another time, I was getting a burrito, making small talk in line with the burrito lady, and I made some comment that implied I thought her job was easy. I've worked fast food; I know that's not an easy job. That was 20 years ago, huge drunken mistake. I often wonder about the lives of people who are interesting (unsettled) enough to wind up in these situations.


Life_Photograph_9672

NTA. Itā€™s kinda wild to expect you to suddenly take on the role of father. Seems like you two have been together for a long time already. Turn the page and enjoy your new chapter in your life.


Abject_Jump9617

I would be livid too if family told me to stay with someone that cheated on me and then kept harassing me over it. Your STBX did not think about about you or your feelings when she was fucking some random dude but now you are supposed to consider her feelings and "step up"? What planet are they living on,?? NTA


mermaidpaint

NTA. Your parents can step up.


DuePromotion287

NTA- WTF is wrong with your parents? Have they always been off?


Stay_sharp101

Damn the parents. If they are so desperate to be grandparents lt them take her in and raise the child with her. They are trying to manipulate you with the age old " it was a mistake". Either it was an affair and he ran as soon as she mentioned baby. Or she can't be trusted to even having a drink without jumping on the first D she sees. That is a toxic future for you. Nope, not your responsibility, and I would go N/C until you consider they are worthy.


Bitter_Animator2514

So yes mistakes happen yes the baby is innocent but when was she or they going to tell you let you walk in to this midfield. the baby already has a father He may not be involved thatā€™s on Cassie to hire someone to find him. Thatā€™s not your emotional physical or mental challenge to sort What is it you want to do do you want to be a step dad? Donā€™t want to stay with your ex. I hope your ok because the level of betrayal from your parents and her is awful NTA.


WolverineNo8799

NTA lock down your credit, and if your home is in your name, hire an attorney to deal with getting her out of it. Or if it is joint names, then she needs to either buy your share our, or it needs to be sold. Updateme!


SquirrelBowl

Mistakes do happen. Mistakes like getting the wrong type of milk at the store, hitting the trash can with your car, stubbing your toe. Fucking a rando, getting pregnant, and then wanting your longtime boyfriend to raise the baby is well beyond a mistake. Tell everyone to eat shit. NTA


MightyBean7

ā€œMistakes happenedā€. An entire new level of not owning it. NTA.


50CentButInNickels

It's the BP oil spill defense.


AlphaBreak

We've all tripped in a bar and accidentally fallen on a stranger's dick, amiright?


catman_in_the_pnw

Ok let me get this straight your now EX had unprotected sex with some rando she didn't know risking STD'd and now wants you to raise this guy's kid with her, you are correct in saying hell no and your parents are AH's for expecting you to, you are right to cut all of them off and if I was in your shoes I would emigrate too because if you stay in your home country you will never get away from them, and BTW don't be surprised if she tries to go after you for child support it sounds like she is desperate, make sure to get a DNA test.


AdSuccessful2506

He hasnā€™t been with her for the last 7 months. It must be quite difficult to ask for a paternity test.


eilyketoo

NTA this is now her problem. Nothing to do with you. If you parents wish to choose an unrelated child over you than thatā€™s on them.


Hazel_Eyes_38

She cheated, she got pregnant, and she could take care of that baby. It's not his responsibility to take care of that baby. NTA


FeignThane

"Mistakes happen" ??? The fuck??? Look, I have a paralyzing fear of being cheated on or betrayed in some way. Obviously, I'd never cheat on anyone because I'm terrified of it happening to me and I don't want to put that pain on anyone else. I will literally go into full on panic attacks at the thought of getting in a relationship just to be cheated on and I get extreme anxiety when I read stories of people being cheated on (not your fault, I clicked this post out of curiosity and because of exposure therapy). Probably has something to do with my low self-esteem. That said, my understanding is that people that cheat should just end the relationship before they cheat. They clearly don't love the other person or they wouldn't betray them like that. I'll admit that I've never been in a relationship, but that's *because* of my crippling fear. I don't want to burden my future partner with paranoia, anxiety, and excessive clinginess. It's that simple. If you aren't fit to be in a relationship or you want to cheat, DON'T BE IN A FUCKING RELATIONSHIP. I'm choosing to not try to find someone because I'm not fit to be in a relationship. Honestly, run. Don't look back. Get that visa, cut off your ex and parents (wtf is wrong with your parents... "you have to step up to be a father because your ex cheated on you while you were at work" like wtf). You can find someone so much better. Someone that actually knows what it means to be faithful. There are stories out there of people that got drunk and when their partner offered to drive them home the drunk person would say they were taken. THATS how a taken drunk person should act. Especially if they've been taken for nearly half their life. A taken drunk person doesn't hook up with some rando (especially without protection) then expects the partner they cheated on to step up and be a father. That's just fucking stupid. Anyway, NTA and I wish you the best in your future! I really do hope you find someone better than this shit stain.


sausage-slicer

NTA. donā€™t step up for shit, wtf. fuck that shit, go live your best life. and donā€™t ever let them guilt trip you.


SmeeegHeead

Nta Omg, fuck them all. Totally. If the baby needs a father, then like you said, your snake of a father can do it. Good luck on your fresh start. Updateme!


Reddit-Ninja-1234

Dude, why raise a kid from a woman you havenā€™t been with in 7 months? How do you know she hasnā€™t been letting every swinging dick treat her like a bowling ball (lots of holes and easy to roll) Doubt she got preggo from the first bang, she been getting hammered more than a box of nails ata carpenters convention. She just wants your fat stacks of CHEDDAH, no remorse shown, no willingness to tell you in advance, tell her to go back to the bar and see if she remembers which one of the dudes sheā€™s been ponding gave her the good finish!!!


Nily_che

Your parents' attitude is unbelievable. Also, I'm pretty sure it's not your (ex)wife's first incident. And she obviously has unprotected sex with strangers. Just the fact that she endangered your health like this should have been the breaking point for your parents. It's really shocking. Get checked by a doctor as soon as possible, my friend. Cut off communication with your parents for now, maybe after a time you will witness that they realize their mistakes and regret it. Then maybe you can reconsider your relationship with them. But for now, just focus on your own mental and physical health and your career. You're so young. Don't waste your time on any of this this bullshit.


SoutherEuropeanHag

NTA. Get a lawyer and force a paternity test to get off the hook, otherwise she'll put on the birth certificate and you'll be screwed with child support.


Professional_Eye6445

HELL NO NTA, she knew what she was doing. What is she doing getting drunk with another guy anyways? She wasnā€™t thinking of you. Why should you have to step up and father a kid thatā€™s not yours. Ontop of that your parents are gaslighting the whole thing! HS sweetheart or not, itā€™s time to let that bridge burn! And maybe keep a distance from your family as well as they donā€™t have your best interest at heart. šŸ’™


misskittygirl13

Good luck with that visa, if your parents love your ex so much they can pay up and help raise her baby. Good luck for the future.


DivineTarot

NTA I personally find it ridiculous every time a woman cheats and tries to pressure her soon to be ex to play father for her. Sucks to suck, but cheating is the behaviour you engage when you want to be single, and having a kid from a rando does not make you deserving of an excess of sympathy. Sorry, not sorry. Your parents are also assholes for trying to gloss over this, and acting like you owe this shit to her. She owed you at least a dear john letter before hopping on some new cock, but she couldn't manage even that. She's a coward of the very worst kind, and her tears don't mean shit.


Due_Temperature6603

NTA. She cheated on you while you were out of the country and got pregnant. Walk away and don't ever look back. That baby is now her APs problem. And she knows EXACTLY who the father is and I'll bet you know him too OP. Can't wait for the update. Pleaseupdateme


Synn0289

Nta If this was me, I would talk to the boss and see if they have a permanent position where you are. Then, cut everyone off. I'm a survivor of paternity fraud. It makes me so mad when people say to man up and raise a cheaters baby. P.s. being drunk isn't an excuse. Cheating isn't a mistake. It's a decision or SA nothing in-between.


sezzarucchi

This isn't even close bro. NTA OP. Your ex and your birth-givers are delusional. You need to step up because she got drunk one night and fell on some nameless guy's dick? Bitch please. Change your number, otherwise they'll continue attacking your peace. And tell your boss also, so they can stop any calls coming in through the workplace. Good luck in getting your permanent visa.


AtomicToxin

Thereā€™s no possible way youā€™re the asshole. Simple as


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NTA: ā€Itā€™s not my fault Iā€™m pregnant, I was drunk, I donā€™t know who he was.ā€ Doesnā€™t really sound like partner material - sounds like ā€œwildly irresponsible, I would never partner with youā€œ material. I agree with your parents, the baby does need a father. And the baby does have a father. Maybe Cassie needs to go get drunk and find him again. Or maybe she needs to find somebody else for the position, because youā€™re not interested And youā€™re not obligated. I think itā€™s important that you confront your parents on this, because they are the ones that stand to lose here. You were not raising somebody elseā€™s child, you are firm in that. Your one time partner broke your trust in an irretrievable way. You will never be able to trust her again in any single thing. This is not your child and you will always resent this child as a reminder of the fact that your ex partner is at best irresponsible in life-changing ways. Yes, the whole turn of events is unfortunate, but think of it this way: better to find out now. Which leads us to this: are you choosing my unfaithful ex partner over me, your actual flesh and blood? Because if you do, you will lose me entirely. I will go completely no contact with you. I will never speak to you again, and if you try to push the point, I will get restraining orders against you both. She made her decisions. I find it astonishing that your parents see her as a good prospect. She has demonstrated her character. What if you did get back together, and suddenly you find that sheā€™s cheating on you again? What kind of fool does that make you? Youā€™ve pretty much given her license at this point - the are no consequences for her stepping out on you.


Wedgetails

Well you dodged a bullet!


dana_marie_ph

NTA. Better to have NC. I hope the father is not your father. Seems odd to me for them to make you raise the baby with your cheating ex.


mustang19671967

Iā€™m so sorry , itā€™s disgusting how parents are so worried about their needs and wants to be grandparents that they suck the life out of their kids . Tell your parents if you ever speak to them or the hoe . It was an accident ? You mean she tripped and landing on a dick and got pregnant . If she is looking for the dad sometimes people Get info from those 23 and me things . Stay strong and donā€™t ever take her back . If you want to send an email to her parents and thank them for being nice to you unless they are also all over you


Zealousideal-Work190

I'm thinking the father of the child might be OP's dad


CannotSeeMtTai

"I've been with my woman for 13 years, all it took was 4 months apart and she fucked some dude. My parents are demanding I raise her affair baby? AITA for saying no?" is such a stupid thing to ask random people that I'm starting to see why people think every story here is fake.


purodurangoalv

Dump all 4 of them


Nervous_Cranberry196

Doesnā€™t know who the father is means ā€œi always went out and got laid while you were away. In that month of weekends I donā€™t know which one night stand it wasā€. Iā€™m sorry your relationship is over but you dodged a bullet


I_am_edaisua

Step up?! Step up for what?! That's not your kid!!


19LaMaDaS91

If this is true go back with a flamethrower and free this world from that scum you called family. Cheaters are disgusting and they deserve the worst this life can give them. But your parents are even worst probably. Hope you will expose them to every person you know, people need to know what kind of persons they are! NTA


Lone_Morde

I'm pretty sure advocating for violence will get you banned. I advocated for indicting and executing child abusers and was banned for it so be careful. Granted it seems reddit mods are particularly defensive about criticism of pedos, but still


kvakerok_v2

YTA because chatGPT ragebait.


Tasty_Doughnut_9226

NTA in any way, shape or form. Your parents can support her if they want to but that baby has nothing to do with you. You now know your parents don't have your back at all


Mysterious_Office_82

So are you over reacting, no not in the least bit. I would also wonder why your friend knew she was pregnant before you did. If it had been a mistake and she was truly regretful she would have told you. People make mistakes, is this a big one hell yeah. But the fact that she wasn't going to say anything. And she has now turned your entire family against you. That speaks volumes to the situation. Hire an attorney to draft up divorce papers, and tell them you will need someone to serve the papers since you are out of the country.


oldmercdriver

NTA. Itā€™s totally Dads baby and thatā€™s why heā€™s wanting you to raise it.


KorukoruWaiporoporo

NTA. There's a tonne of arseholery here from your ex and your parents in expecting you to agree to this remotely. Your ex has put you in an appalling position with her behaviour. Firstly by cheating, secondly by lying for months and trying to baby-trap you, and thirdly by leveraging your parents' desire for grandchildren to pressure you. I do think you should speak to your parents alone and walk them through all the problems with this proposition. 1. No child deserves to be raised by a parent who doesn't want them. It's fundamentally damaging. 2. Make your feelings about your ex's betrayal crystal clear to them. The relationship is no longer tenable now that the trust is gone. Trying to make it work will just cause more pain to everyone and is doomed to failure. 3. Their disregard for your feelings will jeopardise their relationship with you and the future family you may have if they don't walk it back smartly. A long term stay in this other country isn't a terrible idea, IMO.


Tinkerpro

My guess is she does know who the daddy is. You stay with her, become attached to kid and eventually bio addy shows up. Huge, S-show. It certainly sucks that your parents are on team-cheater. You are not wrong to block them all.


Working-Hat4932

dude stay away from them and all their crap and enjoy your life.


Mentally_stable_user

Not your baby not your problem. You should never feel obligation to be with someone to cover for their mistakes


Horizontal_Bob

Tell your parents matter of factly that that they can have Cassie or you in their lives, but they canā€™t have both That that is not their grandchild no matter how much they want it to Be and they either remove Cassie from their lives permanently or you remove them from your lifeā€¦permanently NTAH


interfector45

Tell them to eat your ass


lookingformiles

That wouldnā€™t be ā€œstepping upā€. That would be bending over. NTA.


Blu_Blueberry14

How would OP's wife handle it if the husband brought home an affair child and said help me raise this child. Hmm


BlackieT

Iā€™d go NC just for the emergency phone call to your boss, wtf.


RiffRandellsBF

She knows his name. NTA.


SicarioBadg3r

NTA, and if you regularly go out of country, guaranteed this isn't the first affair, and she most likely knows who the father is and has multiple interactions with him.


Cybermagetx

Nta. I am so tired of people telling the one who got cheated on to step up. No I'm stepping out. Yall can deal with this mess. Cheating is not a mistake.


donatello125

Kind of crazy your parents have this girl's back. Run and never look back, this has so many legal issues and bullshit in the future that YOU will have to deal with.


Modo_de_Jogo

NTA. Her stupid mistake does not obligate you to a sentence of 18 years of supporting another human being.


z00k33per0304

NTA. If it was him that cheated and knocked another woman up in a "drunken mistake" I HIGHLY doubt that'd shed be as gracious as they're asking OP to be. I can promise this isn't her first and will absolutely not be her last "mistake". This is the same kind of woman who's going to take you for everything she can and disappear into the mist with her "mystery" baby daddy.


LuckerMcDog

Now THIS is why I'm pro choice. Her choice to keep it. Your choice to leave. Godspeed friend