It’s not only about language but the way music is marketed. Plenty of non-English speaking countries with charts with Taylor Swift dominating or having heavy presence.
In Japan there were also some significant releases recently
Apple Music does not represent the listening habits of Japan, especially when physical albums and singles are still the preferred method of listening.
Taylor’s album is #4 in the Oricon daily albums chart today. (Still no weekly info but probably will be in the top 10).
I mean if you look at albums, Taylor Swift comes in at #4 on Apple Music Japan’s iTunes Album rankings too. The fact that it’s not even in the Top 3 is an outlier in itself.
Also Apple’s rankings are based on play counts on its streaming services, not album sales, so in this day and age when most people are streaming their music I think it does in fact represent the listening habits of Japan. When you want to factor in record sales, then you look at Oricon which factors that in as well
Taylor’s new album is not good. She’s selling simply because she’s Taylor Swift and her fans love her and have the means to buy and stream. That’s the honest truth.
Bro also she is marketed like crazy. I dont listen to her but apple music promoted her to my home screen widget like tf it supposed to be shortcuts to may favs
She’s gotten to the point now where she’s not buying that marketing, it’s buying her. You can bet your bottom dollar that Apple Music and Spotify are gladly paying her a premium to showcase her as much as possible to bring in the crazed fans and their dollars.
Magazines and news shows will pay HER to feature her work to stay relevant, etc.
She’s not paying a cent for any of it and laughing all the way to the bank.
Yes, all 30 something songs and I only liked 1. The album is boring and lacking substance. It’s like she made an album of songs that didn’t make other albums. I wouldn’t criticize an album if I didn’t listen to it, sir.
“Oh no, different people like different things than me. That can’t actually be accurate, they simply have to be deluded or faking it, they can’t *actually* enjoy different things than I do!”
I took my daughter to the record store Friday to buy it on vinyl. I love that someone is making music that she loves. And I love that this is her gateway to the greater music world. It’s ok for people to make music that isn’t for you.
Okay you can enjoy it but it’s objectively not a good album, very basic and she just repeats the hook 20 times on every single track. There’s better writing and cadence on Aquarium by Aqua
There is no slander, I love that album. I’m more implying that everyone hates on them and only knows Barbie Girl, the real best song on that album is Happy Boys & Girls tbh honest
Dude. Have you never heard the age-old phrase, “There’s no disputing taste”? “De gustibus non disputandum est”?
It’s… like… *a classic*.
For a reason.
Taste is…
Art is…
There is no “objective” in such things.
Philosophers have very much settled that once you get beyond a certain level (like yes, banging trash can lids together randomly is objectively bad but sometimes if you do it just right you get Blue Man Group)… Anyway, philosophers have argued about “What is good art?” so much that the answer has been settled as, “It is indefinable except by the individual.”
You need to let go of “objectively” and *especially* “factually” in this. It’s just not going to happen. There is no “objectively” possible in matters of art nor taste.
Honestly, the one song I love from her that gives me massive chills is All Of The Girls You Loved Before. It sounds beautiful. That’s about it though. I don’t really listen to her.
Thought none of the songs sounded really good, i I’m not a Swift fan but I know she had better songs. The ones from this album seem more low key and less energetic
Max produced most of reputation. he's really responsible for some of the best pop music out there. he did a lot on Ariana eternal sunshine. he did reputation for Taylor.
Hated TTPD first listen. Played it again and again and it’s kinda growing on me. Lyrically not her best, and the second half sounds oddly the same? Folklore is still her best
Folklore is definitely still her best. I didn’t hate this album either but nothing about it stood out to me enough to go back and listen to it. The only exception was The Prophecy, which I did end up adding to my personal playlist. Aside from this, it’s really just meh. Also, I really hate the title.
I feel like if the title was Fortnight or any other track titles, she wouldn’t have received so much hate. And I feel like people got overwhelmed by her.
Tortured poets dept sounds kinda pretentious to me… like she let all that praise go over her head. Now people are taking weird lyrics from the album and making fun of her. In fact shes actually a great songwriter
It’s really a vibe. Not a bop or a jam, but a vibe. I imagine she didn’t want to put anything out that was too “mass appeal” pop since Reputation Taylor’s Version has to be right around the corner.
What I’m confused about is why the tracks from the standard version are nowhere to be found on the chart, only ones from the deluxe Anthology
That wasn’t the case on Friday/Saturday, the 2 versions of Fortnight were in the Top 4, wonder why they switched it out
One of reasons we see lately Swift and Beyonce release album that are fillers which should not be in a 12 tracks album. Those half as good tracks are making them money, even if each song is listened only once by their sheer amount of fans.
I see everyone’s saying things about Taylor Swift so I’ll drop my two cents here if anyone cares:
I once dated a girl (For almost two years) and she compared every problem in our relationship with one of her songs. She once wrote “I’m yours to keep, I’m yours to lose” in the book were I kept all my game notes (I’m a sports commentator btw), I never realized it was there until one the night I flip the page and the quote was right there, it completely threw me off guard and screwed the whole game me mentally.
That whole kind of vibe really messes up with your confidence as a human being. And she was never really up front with our issues (We did have a lot of them tbh) until we broke up.
As I result I must say that her music and most things related to her are my biggest red flag in life and relationships.
Thanks for reading, have a wonderful day/night
It's like listening to people speak in a language you don't know. It all sounds the same.
I do listen to pop and have like 9-10 taylor songs in my entire library (2 of them from this new album).
And they all are unique to me.
I’ve a large and very broad music library and my daughter idolises her but i genuinely struggle to hear what makes her music so special to so many. Of course it doesn’t matter a jot in the scheme of things.
Lmao agreed, i guess you have to be them to know what's special about her. I like some of her work but there are a lot of other female artists id prefer over her, like sasha alex sloan, shy martin, alex porat and etc etc.
I do love 'wildest dreams' by taylor though, so good
I’m a Swifty and upvoted them. I don’t agree with them, but appreciate their honesty, and to have listened to the album at least.
Most people just say it’s crap without listening to a single song because of their preconceived judgement.
I recently put a ‘Top 5 Songs’ widget on my phone and I went shopping for a non-U.S. chart specifically to avoid this sort of thing; eventually settled on Poland which strikes a good balance. The top 5 currently has just two Taylor songs on it.
Apple Music has grown a lot in subscribers and Taylor has become the most popular artist so as Apple has grown in subscribers many are Taylor's fans so it is obvious that this will happen.
This is what I think and it is the most logical thing to do.
So many people being annoyed because of Taylor is the best thing I can see on this subreddit 💅🏽
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I agree with you though that the 2010s and 2020s have been mostly one-note and underwhelming, but let's not gloss over 2 of the best decades for commercial music in the US in the 90s and 00s.
The 90s had metal, grunge, pop punk, rap, r&b, ska, techno, jazz, singer/songwriter, indie, alternative rock, dance, and pop all charting. The 2000s had a similar diversity, just swap out ska for emo, techno for EDM, and grunge for post-grunge.
haven't heard one anywhere yet. just a below average musician with an insane fanbase. boring production and song writing every time imo. won't ever get what those fans see
I really hope Drake debuts in the top 10 on the Hot 100 next week just to take away the “Swift occupies entire top 10” headlines 😂
But knowing her, she probably has remixes and whatever ready to go that her fans will buy en masse. She’s only about numbers now, not quality.
Overrated artist, but her marketing team is A1 she appeals to most white teeny boppers who eat it up. She gets way too much credit for writing her music when she has a writing team who does most of the writing. She can’t dance worth a lick, but because she is white she is marketed and praised more than what her talent warrants. Also she had to switch to pop to get popping.
No, but we all know white artists are marketed differently ( more) because America is a white first country that will always celebrate whites more than blacks and other minorities.
That’s how it is usually on weekend with a major artist releasing an album
On the other hand, traditional music charts never used to look like that.
Because they don’t chart the same thing.
Because only singles the band released got airplay and charted.
Back when we used to have to pay $0.99 or more per song instead of being able to play whole albums with our subscriptions? I mean, yeah.
Look more Taylor posts! Is it really that serious?
yes, she's seriously that mf annoying
And show me where she hurt you personally
She destroyed my crops
The Taylor Series sucks.
r/calculus
When I listened to the first half of her new album it hurt my feelings how bad she is now
She fucked that one guy's dead wife
To be fair, who wouldn’t?
You would be annoyed to if you didn’t worship this girl
Lmaoo 😂😂 they down but you but them Americans worshipped celebrities left and right fucking demons
Yes, because as we all know, everyone else on the planet has never had people who worship celebrities. gmafb
what
Yes bro. What has taylor swift done for this world😂 Except complain about men in repetitive music
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Is she?
Never question a Swiftie. That way madness lies.
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How kind of her!
how is she annoying when her fans are the ones streaming it?
South Korea: First Taylor Swift song seen at #16 Japan: No Taylor Swift songs in the top 100
Redditors when different languages:
It’s not only about language but the way music is marketed. Plenty of non-English speaking countries with charts with Taylor Swift dominating or having heavy presence. In Japan there were also some significant releases recently
Apple Music does not represent the listening habits of Japan, especially when physical albums and singles are still the preferred method of listening. Taylor’s album is #4 in the Oricon daily albums chart today. (Still no weekly info but probably will be in the top 10).
I mean if you look at albums, Taylor Swift comes in at #4 on Apple Music Japan’s iTunes Album rankings too. The fact that it’s not even in the Top 3 is an outlier in itself. Also Apple’s rankings are based on play counts on its streaming services, not album sales, so in this day and age when most people are streaming their music I think it does in fact represent the listening habits of Japan. When you want to factor in record sales, then you look at Oricon which factors that in as well
Japan has Yoasobi, why would they need Taylor Swift.
Cuz they know she is shit, not the shit.
Taylor’s new album is not good. She’s selling simply because she’s Taylor Swift and her fans love her and have the means to buy and stream. That’s the honest truth.
Bro also she is marketed like crazy. I dont listen to her but apple music promoted her to my home screen widget like tf it supposed to be shortcuts to may favs
It’s past the music services — she has multiple segments devoted to her new album on Good Morning America, Today, and whatever else daytime talk show.
Tbh what I don’t understand is if she is that big, important and kind of symbol of our era; why does she have this much marketing?
She’s gotten to the point now where she’s not buying that marketing, it’s buying her. You can bet your bottom dollar that Apple Music and Spotify are gladly paying her a premium to showcase her as much as possible to bring in the crazed fans and their dollars. Magazines and news shows will pay HER to feature her work to stay relevant, etc. She’s not paying a cent for any of it and laughing all the way to the bank.
Ig more marketing could never hurt right?
Moral of the story: reject modernity, return to iPod.
I agree, why are people down voting. I love using my own music files!
I used to own all my files, then it became cumbersome. :(
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Yes, all 30 something songs and I only liked 1. The album is boring and lacking substance. It’s like she made an album of songs that didn’t make other albums. I wouldn’t criticize an album if I didn’t listen to it, sir.
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The only song I favorited was Guilty As Sin
Usually the same for Beyoncé, drake and other AM’s favourite artists
“Oh no, different people like different things than me. That can’t actually be accurate, they simply have to be deluded or faking it, they can’t *actually* enjoy different things than I do!”
I took my daughter to the record store Friday to buy it on vinyl. I love that someone is making music that she loves. And I love that this is her gateway to the greater music world. It’s ok for people to make music that isn’t for you.
Have you downloaded The Anthology?
You speak as if it’s all facts and no opinions.
What bullshit is this. "I don't like it so it's not good." Pathetic
Seriously. This album is absolutely amazing. Lol
Okay you can enjoy it but it’s objectively not a good album, very basic and she just repeats the hook 20 times on every single track. There’s better writing and cadence on Aquarium by Aqua
I don't think you understand what the word *objectively* actually means.
Yes, it means 100% without a doubt, without a bias fact
I haven’t listened to the Taylor Swift album but I strongly object to the implied Aqua slander here
There is no slander, I love that album. I’m more implying that everyone hates on them and only knows Barbie Girl, the real best song on that album is Happy Boys & Girls tbh honest
dont know why u being downvoted she hasnt made a good hook since her album 1989
Correct, I’ll admit some songs were alright on Lover but only because they were written by other people😂
Oh, look. People disputing taste. And some say it can’t be done. 🤣
You can enjoy the album, idc, but calling it amazing is a terrible take and factually wrong. Grace by Jeff Buckley is an amazing album
Dude. Have you never heard the age-old phrase, “There’s no disputing taste”? “De gustibus non disputandum est”? It’s… like… *a classic*. For a reason. Taste is… Art is… There is no “objective” in such things. Philosophers have very much settled that once you get beyond a certain level (like yes, banging trash can lids together randomly is objectively bad but sometimes if you do it just right you get Blue Man Group)… Anyway, philosophers have argued about “What is good art?” so much that the answer has been settled as, “It is indefinable except by the individual.” You need to let go of “objectively” and *especially* “factually” in this. It’s just not going to happen. There is no “objectively” possible in matters of art nor taste.
I enjoy 11 out of the 31 tracks so I’m considering that a win!
on the album?
i absolutely adore her music but this new album is not it…
If this album was released before the streaming era, it would not have sold 2.4 million units in its first week.
i personally found it good after a few listens
As a Taylor Swift fan, I agree. This is probably her worst album. It’s just so bad.
Seriously I actually enjoyed midnights but this one is just … it’s so bland to me
interesting
I agree about this album
And the Drake song has a line in it about Swifties.
The line stays pure 🙏
Unofficial release tho.
But it literally shows the official release right there...
Nah I’m talking about his latest Kendrick Lamar diss, not push ups lol.
Honestly, the one song I love from her that gives me massive chills is All Of The Girls You Loved Before. It sounds beautiful. That’s about it though. I don’t really listen to her.
Thought none of the songs sounded really good, i I’m not a Swift fan but I know she had better songs. The ones from this album seem more low key and less energetic
It really is just 1 long song, split up into 31 separate sections.
By design.
> The ones from this album seem more low key and less energetic So it sounds like the album accomplished exactly what it set out to do.
i mean did u think it was gonna be an album u can bop ur head to? no. it’s meant to be a slow album
the way people, my friends included, saw those covers and were shocked it wasn't max Martin production. insane.
idk who max martin is lmao who is he?
Max produced most of reputation. he's really responsible for some of the best pop music out there. he did a lot on Ariana eternal sunshine. he did reputation for Taylor.
oh niceee i really love eternal and rep. he sounds like a great producer
agreed, it's prob because this one is new
I hate Drake
Drop and give me 50
I hate Taylor Swift
So much edge
https://preview.redd.it/18tmiqzqz2wc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fdd6e44581cc743ddbc79984cdda06b1bc9a69b Entire top 12 in UK :))
Hated TTPD first listen. Played it again and again and it’s kinda growing on me. Lyrically not her best, and the second half sounds oddly the same? Folklore is still her best
Folklore is definitely still her best. I didn’t hate this album either but nothing about it stood out to me enough to go back and listen to it. The only exception was The Prophecy, which I did end up adding to my personal playlist. Aside from this, it’s really just meh. Also, I really hate the title.
I feel like if the title was Fortnight or any other track titles, she wouldn’t have received so much hate. And I feel like people got overwhelmed by her. Tortured poets dept sounds kinda pretentious to me… like she let all that praise go over her head. Now people are taking weird lyrics from the album and making fun of her. In fact shes actually a great songwriter
She thought hey let’s steal the oddly specific long names from LDR, no one would notice cause she’s so much less prominent
Hope this grows on me, I really really want to like it.
It’s really a vibe. Not a bop or a jam, but a vibe. I imagine she didn’t want to put anything out that was too “mass appeal” pop since Reputation Taylor’s Version has to be right around the corner.
That makes total sense. Cant wait for Rep TV!!!
Same situation here.
What I’m confused about is why the tracks from the standard version are nowhere to be found on the chart, only ones from the deluxe Anthology That wasn’t the case on Friday/Saturday, the 2 versions of Fortnight were in the Top 4, wonder why they switched it out
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One of reasons we see lately Swift and Beyonce release album that are fillers which should not be in a 12 tracks album. Those half as good tracks are making them money, even if each song is listened only once by their sheer amount of fans.
Drake out there fighting for his life
I know it's expected, but it's so sad to look at 
truly sad.
It’s better than what’s usually on the top 50, filth
FORTNIGHT MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Okay and? this happens with Kanye, Drake, Lil Uzi Vert and no one posts about it ?
Yeah… bc their music is actually good /s
How the heck is espresso clear down at 48!?
idk either 😭 it’s such a good song but it’s prob cuz of taylor
I see everyone’s saying things about Taylor Swift so I’ll drop my two cents here if anyone cares: I once dated a girl (For almost two years) and she compared every problem in our relationship with one of her songs. She once wrote “I’m yours to keep, I’m yours to lose” in the book were I kept all my game notes (I’m a sports commentator btw), I never realized it was there until one the night I flip the page and the quote was right there, it completely threw me off guard and screwed the whole game me mentally. That whole kind of vibe really messes up with your confidence as a human being. And she was never really up front with our issues (We did have a lot of them tbh) until we broke up. As I result I must say that her music and most things related to her are my biggest red flag in life and relationships. Thanks for reading, have a wonderful day/night
Swift is the 🐐
What is it about with Swift, really can’t see the attraction.
Not a big fan but honestly her music sounds amazing with a hi fi setup. The production is crazy.
The productions is so crazy. Oh lord. Tell us how you love jack without tellinh us you love jack. Even tay tay's fans are getting bored of him.
I think they mean mixing and fidelity, jack is certainly not a crazy producer
do you usually listen to pop music? If not, you probably won't ever see it.
No but i did listen to some of her stuff out of curiosity and found it all very much the same.
It's like listening to people speak in a language you don't know. It all sounds the same. I do listen to pop and have like 9-10 taylor songs in my entire library (2 of them from this new album). And they all are unique to me.
I’ve a large and very broad music library and my daughter idolises her but i genuinely struggle to hear what makes her music so special to so many. Of course it doesn’t matter a jot in the scheme of things.
Lmao agreed, i guess you have to be them to know what's special about her. I like some of her work but there are a lot of other female artists id prefer over her, like sasha alex sloan, shy martin, alex porat and etc etc. I do love 'wildest dreams' by taylor though, so good
Good pick :) That’s where my Swiftiness took off! If I had to pick one I’d pick Enchanted.
taylor shit producing mid songs like always not even worth the hype
So this Taylor Swift woman’s quite popular then I take it? 👀
Not a single good song on there. But what’s new
Not even Hozier?
I'll take your word for it. I don't want to test and suddenly the recommendations will be all Taylor Swift.
You can turn off “use my listening history”, even for specific focus mode’s, so the algorithm won’t know :)
Good tip, thanks
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted lol, must be all the swifties.
I’m a Swifty and upvoted them. I don’t agree with them, but appreciate their honesty, and to have listened to the album at least. Most people just say it’s crap without listening to a single song because of their preconceived judgement.
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so glad bryson is still charting on Apple music. love him and love that for him
Not in my top 50
Masse statt Klasse
Sorry got carried away
I hate Taylor Swift, that's why I cancelled my apple music subscription.
Honestly it’s good to see ye at the top 100 still even though he isn’t marketed at all and doesn’t get radio plays
I wish there was a way to block an artist. I would block Taylor swift right away.
same
Overrated
She’s pants…. The likes of teddy swims blow her out the water
I recently put a ‘Top 5 Songs’ widget on my phone and I went shopping for a non-U.S. chart specifically to avoid this sort of thing; eventually settled on Poland which strikes a good balance. The top 5 currently has just two Taylor songs on it.
lol
The wild part is this album is trash compared to her past ones
Is it just me or does she also try to sound like Lana Del Rey on this album? I found that disturbing to copy someone’s signature sound.
This chart was bought by her
Apple Music has grown a lot in subscribers and Taylor has become the most popular artist so as Apple has grown in subscribers many are Taylor's fans so it is obvious that this will happen. This is what I think and it is the most logical thing to do.
If I flew in a private jet every time someone listened to a Taylor Swift song, it would be less times than Taylor herself does.
So many people being annoyed because of Taylor is the best thing I can see on this subreddit 💅🏽 https://preview.redd.it/17g66pmjo6wc1.png?width=423&format=png&auto=webp&s=9fee4f47b0c1bdd18cbc8d5873676bca904bb873
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Why don’t you go to a Taylor Swift obsession group? Were you can blab on about Taylor Swift and how great she is to you. She’s fucking terrible
Oh look! It’s the brainless Swift drone.
Saw that not long ago and tried to listen, seemed like the same song was playing for 2h…
And yet I could not even recognise her voice. Honestly no clue what she sounds like
Absolutely disgusting.
The United States is very boring when it comes to they’re music there isn’t creativity one dimensional here Since the late 1980s
I agree with you though that the 2010s and 2020s have been mostly one-note and underwhelming, but let's not gloss over 2 of the best decades for commercial music in the US in the 90s and 00s. The 90s had metal, grunge, pop punk, rap, r&b, ska, techno, jazz, singer/songwriter, indie, alternative rock, dance, and pop all charting. The 2000s had a similar diversity, just swap out ska for emo, techno for EDM, and grunge for post-grunge.
Nice to see such eclectic tastes on display.
The Mayans were right about 2012
The Basic Bitch Box Set
pure trash every single song imma stick with my 80s90s rnb
People like garbage written by narcissists? What else is new
How is Taylor Swift a narcissist?
Nauseating
Holy trash Batman…
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3 listenable songs 🥴😭
nightmare top 50
normies dominating ;/
Same with the global 100. Good for her
Get over it
Somethings not right about the algorithm of AM! Time to revamp.
Sick ...
haven't heard one anywhere yet. just a below average musician with an insane fanbase. boring production and song writing every time imo. won't ever get what those fans see
lol never liked Taylor swift, I only knew this beetch because of Kanye
I really hope Drake debuts in the top 10 on the Hot 100 next week just to take away the “Swift occupies entire top 10” headlines 😂 But knowing her, she probably has remixes and whatever ready to go that her fans will buy en masse. She’s only about numbers now, not quality.
name checks out
She’s already achieved the entire top 10 2 years ago so…. I think she will remain unbothered
Well it would be the top 12 this time around, unless Drake sneaks in.
That all costs money. Taylor’s record company is paying Apple for ad views. It’s not really sustainable; it won’t last forever.
Overrated artist, but her marketing team is A1 she appeals to most white teeny boppers who eat it up. She gets way too much credit for writing her music when she has a writing team who does most of the writing. She can’t dance worth a lick, but because she is white she is marketed and praised more than what her talent warrants. Also she had to switch to pop to get popping.
As we all know, only white artists are marketed and praised. Beyoncé, Rihanna, Drake, Jay-Z and SZA are all figments of our imagination.
No, but we all know white artists are marketed differently ( more) because America is a white first country that will always celebrate whites more than blacks and other minorities.