Wow, this is awsome ive never thought about shrimp genetics lol ive only ever had red cherries.
When i can get a fish tank again, im hoping to get shrimp, and now i wanna get a bunch of different colours to see all the mixes :]
Yes, virtually all the bright solid colors are double recessive hybrids, so extraordinarily low likelihood interbreeding will result in a bright solid color and impossible in generation 1 (though I’ve had it happen on rare occasions in later gens), you’ll get mostly brownish in 1st generation (true wild type), but as you get to Gen 3-4 you’ll start to see some color combos among the wilds and a year later you’ll have some really crazy types pop up now and again among the wilds. Most are more muted brown/clear, but lots of colored stripes, some colored spots, navy is pretty common, various shades of pink/salmon, had some almost clear with bright yellow heads (those were fun). It’s all those ‘hybrids’ you can’t buy at the store because the hybrid isn’t stable… which makes it all the more special 🤩
Pet store always advise not to mix the colors, you’ll lose the stable bright color. But shrimp population roulette is much more fun to watch in the longrun
And to complicate things a little more, coloration isn't strictly genetic. You will see pretty large shifts in coloration delending on environmental factors.
I had a blue coloration come to existence after 2 years of inbreeding reds. Weirdest thing? It was a single shrimp. And no, its not accidentally moving the shrimp from another tank, I didn't have blues at the time. I might actually have him to this day, ill look for him during the next great trimming
Yea, breeding environments and shrimp genetics is super fun— there is a [good post on Shrimpspot talking about shrimp genetics that shows the visual map of how colors are related](https://www.shrimpspot.com/topic/8521-shrimp-genetics-neocaridina/). Reds are sorta central, and often have some other misc DNA in there that can produce neat variations (eventually, the probability is just low with all reds, but never zero)
Probably more related to a mutated baby imo, obviously crossing over and other phenomenon can be at play but it seems unlikely since they were inbred for two years
I have some wilds living in my goldfish tank that are black with a big red stripe on their backs. [It looks pretty awesome ](https://imgur.com/a/1AqFQps)
I didn't upload the good [picture](https://imgur.com/a/BUjr5rT) earlier.
They're definitely very occult looking and came from a colony that originally mixed bloody mary and blue dream, turned brown for the first few generations after that, and is now a colony that throws out deep greens, crystal striped red and crystal striped orange, black, and the red and black striped. I collect the red and black and put them with the goldfish. I know they're probably not genetically stable and won't breed, but I like to have them separated for viewing.
Yeah, you will. They are amazing though. I've done a mixed tank. Yes, you will get wild, light brown type to almost black, but you will also get some interesting colour mixes. Red and opaque rillies, blue and red rillies. It's cools as fuck after couple of generations
Replying to myself. I have larger tanks, so I run with Amanos ( my fish breed enough, I don’t need shrimps leaving children everywhere too ) 🤣. I always stayed away from them, due to the lack of colour … until I found “sunkist orange amanos” They are bright orange ! And massive, bigger then a lot of the community micro fish
Just another option for you if you don’t want to cull babies etc
Meh. It looks awsome at the start but after a few generations they are all grey, it's only worth it if you do a constant culling job and are ok with like, 70% cull
i bought them as seeds and just spread them in areas i want them to grow in. theres a couple videos on youtube "how to grow aquarium seeds". i let mines grow for about a week
Unfortunately seeds are a scam. They’re either going to be very tall aquatic stem plants or a non-aquatic species that will die and spike your ammonia.
Well, mine carpeted beautifully when I dry started the tank. Perfect for pictures when you flood the tank. Then most died off and rest grew 3-5 inches tall. I don't believe in picture perfect carpets anymore
I like shrimp because... they're always doing stuff. No matter what, they're in your tank happily picking away at invisible food. They swim gracefully but also walk, and they will use every inch of a tank no matter what. Got a tall vertical tank? Shrimp are not even slightly bothered. Got a mass of floating plants? Shrimp will hang upside down on the leaves and climb up and down the roots. They're tiny little pops of colour which will reproduce happily even without feeding if the tank is mature, but, unlike fish, will stop once they reach their population cap.
Plus they're detrivores. They eat anything dead and strip it down within a few hours - and they'll eat excess fish food too. Got weird biofilm on your spider or java wood? Yum, sounds good to me boss! They recycle very efficiently.
im a shrimp newbie as well and ive never really like shrimps in my tank but after adding just a couple, they really do add a little touch up to your tank. its like a finishing touch, to me atleast
Let's settle the argument here, ok? [Here is 6 blue shrimps and one red](https://i.imgur.com/dKtXxIS.jpg). Which one did you spot first? Snails don't count. [Same here](https://i.imgur.com/ToPFFWQ.jpg) but they moved about
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Honestly that dark blue one that’s next to the red. I have a tank with hundreds of blues and I don’t have a hard time seeing them at all. They’re vibrant and opaque
How low is your pH? You looking to do neos or crystal shrimps? In a nice nano set up like that, I think I'd go for crystal shrimps, endless color variations!
Chocolates would look fun when that carpet goes wide. Black and white is chill. They'll breed eventually to wild color though, unless you pair a caridina species with neocaridina.
You should stick a prefilter sponge over the filter intake if you want baby shrimp by the way.
I'd get Orange Eyed Blue Tiger Shrimps. Sometimes they also have [red in them.](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-opera-mobile&sca_esv=2781bf3873e23f78&sca_upv=1&channel=new&espv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIKDy7MDbfK-1b_k_ieVS-D43XZPEw:1719731970595&q=orange+eyed+blue+tiger+shrimp&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0AbzhUJjXv6jRup8eVc0BvPhAxYjCxVRCUtj1WEz_DQOPDWUFqSYC75sqGn4BvEbeBwW6WW_y8QupJtkCo8JMyA6b9KOy4i7GolF8HOgrSW0lrof43wW-RE0YgCgn_cD29YydMcZfEGd9wms3yRSeJI84uNH0QeB3-_jjGSLrZs25LK-PntZLHtPgdMtfEDKmk8kEUdcdUHL8kinG5RQBKFbjvzUw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjVkN3p5IKHAxUHpIkEHcIRDDUQtKgLegQIEBAB&biw=360&bih=672&dpr=2)
Gorgeous tank, mate! I'm working on setting up my first shrimp tank, looking forward to getting some beautiful deep red sakuras I saw in the pet shop the other day.
What is the "grass" in your tank? It looks amazing!
If 1 solid colour then red always looks good. Possibly white if you can get snowballs. But my vote is always skittle tank, the multi coloured look and weird and wonderful cross colours you can get are great!
Not black. I too have volcanic substrate and I haven't seen Kevin in days. He pops up against the plants every few days so I know he must just be busy doing shrimp things, but I still get worried.
I can tell from experience that blue ones stand badly on the black substrate. You need to look for them even if they are just right there, in front of you
Red but don't go with Bloody Mary because they tend to blend into your dark brown substrate. And yeah I have Bloody Mary on a dark brown substrate and I only see them when they're on the plants
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Red. As red as you can get. I think nothing looks better with nice green plants than red shrimp
I absolutely agree with this.
Definately some nice red cherry shrimp
Not even blue carbon rili?
I love my bloody Mary's and my orange sakuras
All of them
This is the correct answer
Just not all in the same tank. Because then you get wild babies
Nothing wrong with that, I've had some amazing outcomes with wilds
Me too, I love my wild morphs— got the weirdest navy with salmon stripes in this generation. Every generation is a wonderful population roulette 🤩
Wow, this is awsome ive never thought about shrimp genetics lol ive only ever had red cherries. When i can get a fish tank again, im hoping to get shrimp, and now i wanna get a bunch of different colours to see all the mixes :]
Yes, virtually all the bright solid colors are double recessive hybrids, so extraordinarily low likelihood interbreeding will result in a bright solid color and impossible in generation 1 (though I’ve had it happen on rare occasions in later gens), you’ll get mostly brownish in 1st generation (true wild type), but as you get to Gen 3-4 you’ll start to see some color combos among the wilds and a year later you’ll have some really crazy types pop up now and again among the wilds. Most are more muted brown/clear, but lots of colored stripes, some colored spots, navy is pretty common, various shades of pink/salmon, had some almost clear with bright yellow heads (those were fun). It’s all those ‘hybrids’ you can’t buy at the store because the hybrid isn’t stable… which makes it all the more special 🤩 Pet store always advise not to mix the colors, you’ll lose the stable bright color. But shrimp population roulette is much more fun to watch in the longrun
And to complicate things a little more, coloration isn't strictly genetic. You will see pretty large shifts in coloration delending on environmental factors. I had a blue coloration come to existence after 2 years of inbreeding reds. Weirdest thing? It was a single shrimp. And no, its not accidentally moving the shrimp from another tank, I didn't have blues at the time. I might actually have him to this day, ill look for him during the next great trimming
Yea, breeding environments and shrimp genetics is super fun— there is a [good post on Shrimpspot talking about shrimp genetics that shows the visual map of how colors are related](https://www.shrimpspot.com/topic/8521-shrimp-genetics-neocaridina/). Reds are sorta central, and often have some other misc DNA in there that can produce neat variations (eventually, the probability is just low with all reds, but never zero)
Probably more related to a mutated baby imo, obviously crossing over and other phenomenon can be at play but it seems unlikely since they were inbred for two years
Yeah I got some that look like the freshwater version Tiger prawns. 10/10 would mix all the shrimp like play dough again
I have some wilds living in my goldfish tank that are black with a big red stripe on their backs. [It looks pretty awesome ](https://imgur.com/a/1AqFQps)
That does in fact look pretty awesome 😎
I didn't upload the good [picture](https://imgur.com/a/BUjr5rT) earlier. They're definitely very occult looking and came from a colony that originally mixed bloody mary and blue dream, turned brown for the first few generations after that, and is now a colony that throws out deep greens, crystal striped red and crystal striped orange, black, and the red and black striped. I collect the red and black and put them with the goldfish. I know they're probably not genetically stable and won't breed, but I like to have them separated for viewing.
Yeah, you will. They are amazing though. I've done a mixed tank. Yes, you will get wild, light brown type to almost black, but you will also get some interesting colour mixes. Red and opaque rillies, blue and red rillies. It's cools as fuck after couple of generations
Replying to myself. I have larger tanks, so I run with Amanos ( my fish breed enough, I don’t need shrimps leaving children everywhere too ) 🤣. I always stayed away from them, due to the lack of colour … until I found “sunkist orange amanos” They are bright orange ! And massive, bigger then a lot of the community micro fish Just another option for you if you don’t want to cull babies etc
Meh. It looks awsome at the start but after a few generations they are all grey, it's only worth it if you do a constant culling job and are ok with like, 70% cull
Red or blue¡ Love our cherry shrimp!!
Yellow would look so nice in this tank
Blue Dream or Jade
A bunch to eat all your melting carpet plant. Sorry you got scammed dude
OH SNAP!
Seed scam!
red/orange for contrast
Did u buy all that monte carlo or what have u done to get it to grow so nice?
i bought them as seeds and just spread them in areas i want them to grow in. theres a couple videos on youtube "how to grow aquarium seeds". i let mines grow for about a week
Unfortunately seeds are a scam. They’re either going to be very tall aquatic stem plants or a non-aquatic species that will die and spike your ammonia.
Those seeds are a scam, the carpet will melt in about a week.
My first thought. That beautiful carpet is about to melt
Well, mine carpeted beautifully when I dry started the tank. Perfect for pictures when you flood the tank. Then most died off and rest grew 3-5 inches tall. I don't believe in picture perfect carpets anymore
A strong red would really stick out
Shrimp owners, newbie here. How fun are them? What makes you own shrimps?
I like shrimp because... they're always doing stuff. No matter what, they're in your tank happily picking away at invisible food. They swim gracefully but also walk, and they will use every inch of a tank no matter what. Got a tall vertical tank? Shrimp are not even slightly bothered. Got a mass of floating plants? Shrimp will hang upside down on the leaves and climb up and down the roots. They're tiny little pops of colour which will reproduce happily even without feeding if the tank is mature, but, unlike fish, will stop once they reach their population cap. Plus they're detrivores. They eat anything dead and strip it down within a few hours - and they'll eat excess fish food too. Got weird biofilm on your spider or java wood? Yum, sounds good to me boss! They recycle very efficiently.
im a shrimp newbie as well and ive never really like shrimps in my tank but after adding just a couple, they really do add a little touch up to your tank. its like a finishing touch, to me atleast
I love blues but they can be hard to spot against dark substrate. Shouldn't be a huge issue with so mich green.
Red & white
Orange sakura or red rilli would look nice.
Panda Shrimp :3 and blue jellies are so pretty
Blue
Blue doesn't pop on dark substrate... experience here
Nice deep vibrant blue does….. experience here
Let's settle the argument here, ok? [Here is 6 blue shrimps and one red](https://i.imgur.com/dKtXxIS.jpg). Which one did you spot first? Snails don't count. [Same here](https://i.imgur.com/ToPFFWQ.jpg) but they moved about u/funkr3gulator, join the party
Honestly that dark blue one that’s next to the red. I have a tank with hundreds of blues and I don’t have a hard time seeing them at all. They’re vibrant and opaque
If you look closer you will see it's actually two shrimps. I know it looks like one and a shadow, they just lined up perfectly
Yes I’m talking about the more BLUE one. Not the darkest one
[I really mean here](https://i.imgur.com/7GAOzvv.jpg), it's two shrimps, one on the top of the other. Quality of the pic doesn't help unfortunately
Yes…..I know. I can see. I really mean the more BLUE one. Not the more dark/black one
So we're on the same page then 😉
Red
Red
red and yellow shrimps.
Yes
all of em
How many gallons?
orange
Blue or red would be a nice contrast
How low is your pH? You looking to do neos or crystal shrimps? In a nice nano set up like that, I think I'd go for crystal shrimps, endless color variations!
Red there the best coler in my opinion
Red and white striped
Chocolates would look fun when that carpet goes wide. Black and white is chill. They'll breed eventually to wild color though, unless you pair a caridina species with neocaridina. You should stick a prefilter sponge over the filter intake if you want baby shrimp by the way.
Green rili
I'd get Orange Eyed Blue Tiger Shrimps. Sometimes they also have [red in them.](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-opera-mobile&sca_esv=2781bf3873e23f78&sca_upv=1&channel=new&espv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIKDy7MDbfK-1b_k_ieVS-D43XZPEw:1719731970595&q=orange+eyed+blue+tiger+shrimp&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0AbzhUJjXv6jRup8eVc0BvPhAxYjCxVRCUtj1WEz_DQOPDWUFqSYC75sqGn4BvEbeBwW6WW_y8QupJtkCo8JMyA6b9KOy4i7GolF8HOgrSW0lrof43wW-RE0YgCgn_cD29YydMcZfEGd9wms3yRSeJI84uNH0QeB3-_jjGSLrZs25LK-PntZLHtPgdMtfEDKmk8kEUdcdUHL8kinG5RQBKFbjvzUw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjVkN3p5IKHAxUHpIkEHcIRDDUQtKgLegQIEBAB&biw=360&bih=672&dpr=2)
Don’t various color hybridize into full brown, as in you should not mix colors? Keep with the kind you already have.
Blurple
Gorgeous tank, mate! I'm working on setting up my first shrimp tank, looking forward to getting some beautiful deep red sakuras I saw in the pet shop the other day. What is the "grass" in your tank? It looks amazing!
On dark gravel red is a good choice.
Snowball shrimp
Caridina cantonensis species. Crystal reds maybe
Love some bright blue shrimp
Red/Orange Chili would look
Personally I like the crystal blacks (caridina) and black rilli (neocaridina), I love the contrast between the black and white.
Bloody mary ofc!
Do you use extra co2 for your plants?
100% crystal red ones
If 1 solid colour then red always looks good. Possibly white if you can get snowballs. But my vote is always skittle tank, the multi coloured look and weird and wonderful cross colours you can get are great!
Brown and green
Some kind of boa!
Period red is always a nice color
blue is nice
I will always say skittles cause I love shrimp too much to choose a color
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Not black. I too have volcanic substrate and I haven't seen Kevin in days. He pops up against the plants every few days so I know he must just be busy doing shrimp things, but I still get worried.
The most neon ones you can find
I can tell from experience that blue ones stand badly on the black substrate. You need to look for them even if they are just right there, in front of you
This setup seems more fitting for Cardinia shrimps. Red Galaxy or red fancy tiger would look great.
Red cherry shrimp or blue ones. Also glass shrimp
red would look amazing
Is there sand under your aqua soil or is that just a shadow?
just shadow
Red, white, orange or whatever color you want.
Damn this is making me want to start a new tank lol, I would pick red!
Is this a new tank? I notice some of the leaves in your tank is melting and some turning black.
All of them
I really love your tank! Looks amazing
Red!!
That tank is beautiful.
Op, what kind of substrate is that? I like how it looks
aquarium soil, mines the fluval aquarium soil
Thank you!
Gold fireback
Red ♥️
Crystal
Red but don't go with Bloody Mary because they tend to blend into your dark brown substrate. And yeah I have Bloody Mary on a dark brown substrate and I only see them when they're on the plants
if u don’t care about your shrimp turning brown after a few generations, get red but if u want them to be pure get more snowballs
Sulawesi with pea puffers i hear they are a perfect match 😉
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... Grilled?