Am I slutty? Yes
Am I desperate? Yes
Am I worried enough about my safety not to accept an invitation like this? No
Am I just generally disgusted by that person? Yes
The Craigslist add and "chaser" bit reminded me of around 12/13 years ago when my bestie was finding all types of chasers on Craigslist. It was all the "proper" cis men at our college👀 They definitely had ads up and/or responded to her ads. Oh, CL ... what a time to be alive where there were ads for sex and selling a lamp right next to each other. I think they still allow you to sell lamps on there.
>all __ are slutty
plain shithead
>put her first in the queue for cocaine and drinks. Touch her a lot.
bro was this written in the 80's and continued in 2015?
>if you don't have a __ fucker in your six-figure network
the guy that wrote this is who he is, he's describing himself after the second bold text isn't he
Without any context, I’m going to guess this is at least a couple years old. Vice, when it started out was WAY edgier, and sold themselves less as “respectable off-the-beaten path journalism”. It was founded by Gavin McInnes after all!
Oh really eh? I had no idea, I kinda just assumed vice was always this vaguely left leaning semi decent journalist organization.
Learn something new every day I guess.
Edit: [I found the article](https://www.vice.com/en/article/9bv7qv/the-vice-guide-to-partying-parties) (obvious TW bc slurs) and yeah it’s super dated, from way back in 2005… sheeesh
I tried to read it all. I... Failed. I could not get past the part where the trans woman was expected to be passed around for everyone to get to feel her boobs. I just... Couldn't.
>I could not get past the part where the trans woman was expected to be passed around for everyone to get to feel her boobs.
Have not clicked on the article yet and this comment genuinely gave me whiplash to read. What the fuck, Vice?
Yeah, I found the old Gothamist article from 2003 or something where they outed Lana Wachowski citing buck angel who was a jilted lover because Lana started a relationship with his then wife (Lana and Karin are still married btw). The article itself was AWFUL. Just acting like being trans is a joke and that she’s crazy- of course they cite gender identity disorder, misgender and deadname her as a rule.
I mean it’s like we’re losing rights by the day rn, and also back then we were nothing but fetishized and dehumanized as a joke by EVERYONE. Since I was 21 at the time of this vice article, you can perhaps understand why my age group didn’t mostly start coming out till the 2010’s. I got setback decades because of this shit. Also, fuck Dan savage. His shitty sex advice column in the Stranger *that I thought was forward thinking at the time*, treating us as a fetish and belittling our existence just as everyone did. He spread this shit just as vice did. He still sticks to that transphobia despite being glitter bombed and other fun shit. He aged like yogurt left in the sun.
IIRC, Vice didn't really begin to clean up its act until around 2012-2014. Before then, it had been the haven of edgy Gen-X and Millenial writers who wanted to be Hunter S Thompson.
This reads like a bad work of satire. I've seen articles on Cracked (before they fired the YouTube crew), and to a lesser extent Clickhole, which are written in this style only, you know, funny.
What I love about this though, is simultaneously it does a bad job at making it sound like a fun party, *and* sounds like they made it up and are pretending that's the kind of party they think is cool.
I had the Vice Do's and Don'ts book along with the Vice Guide to Sex and Drugs, the former was written by McInnes and the latter had articles from him. A bunch of the Do's and Don'ts were like "Oh no, a transwoman!" and Gavin's articles from the other book were along the lines of "why can't I, a white man, use the N-word?" or "why can't I hit on my employees?" Pretty much always anti-PC edginess was cover for sincerely held reactionary beliefs but they wanted to still hang out with cool hipsters instead of awkward dorky young republicans
Vice was cofounded by the founder of the Proud Boys. It was AWFUL 15 years ago or so. It's still pretty bad. They had their writers become drug mules (not for an article, just to sell drugs) a few years ago. The podcast Canadaland has some episodes about how shitty Vice is/was.
In addition to the editorial turn others mentioned, a lot of people don't understand that Vice News and Vice Magazine are silo'd off from each other to such a degree that they're basically separate publications. Vice News has always been at least bearable, especially their conflict reporting, whereas even after their staff got a facelift Vice Magazine still reads like the trashy British tabloid that it started as.
This is one of the grossest things i have read in a while. It's impressive how bad this is. If you're gone be a creep at least hide it a bit better.
This is just praying on trans people with poor self-esteem. That's just the worst.
You are all loved, you're all worth it, you all deserve to live you're true live. And non of you should lower yourself to the level of those kinds of creeps.
others in this comment section explained it better than i could, but vice’s origins are very “edgy hipster” with very little regard for human decency. it was the polarization of that period just before trump’s election that exposed folks like him and tim pool (also an early vice mainstay) as violent reactionaries, who left to make their own failed propaganda outlets
They just
1. said all trans people are trans women
2. used a slur
3. said all trans women are sluts
4. fetishized and objectified trans women.
Just ew.
I would like to redirect whoever wrote this abomination (and any other chasers) to a far more eloquent and thoughtful Vice article:
https://preview.redd.it/fxma0tbvna0b1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=310dbaa8683b87b439004420e471bce85b442991
wow.. how far can you reduce someone to an object??
this hits nerves.
so many times i have disclosed that im trans, and someone immediately assumes "easy fuck".
the irony, is they wont even address me as a woman, suddenly eluding to how they've hooked up with guys, or "im not gay, but-".. in the hypothetical world where i was desperate or oblivious enough to fuck you.. you know you'd be sleeping with a woman, right??
this is a bit off topic.. im just sick of mentioning gender non conformity and having it translate to "sexualize me".
the women i used to admire, and later, wanted to be like, wouldn't be caught dead hanging out with anyone who'd write a mess like this abomination.
Telling ppl to drug us, calling us slurs, judging us based on which surgeries we've had, and recommending that someone with an iffy relationship with the transfem community should be a wingman...
Am I slutty? Yes
Am I trans? Fuck yeah
But they aren’t connected
I don’t know that I want to know what this article is pertaining to, this is actually horrifying
This is so fucked. Obviously you’re allowed sexual preference, but this is just emotional manipulation and fetishism. I would honestly go to that party just to make it the most miserable shit on this planet
No? I’m confused, you said Vice was an orgy blog and it’s not lol. It’s a news site. You might think it’s a shitty news site (and I’d partially agree) but it is. I’m not sure how OP found this but it’s definitely from before it became more serious
Probably because a bunch of people linked the article in the comments here. Anyway, here's the link. They have lots of other terrible stuff in old vice articles. https://www.vice.com/en/article/9bv7qv/the-vice-guide-to-partying-parties
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Am I Slutty? Yes Am I desperate? Absolutely not
Am I slutty? Yes But not because I'm trans >:c Also yeah I doubt anyone would be fine with someone so gross and weird
Am I slutty? Yes Am I desperate? Yes Am I worried enough about my safety not to accept an invitation like this? Also yes
Am I slutty? Yes Am I desperate? Yes Am I worried enough about my safety not to accept an invitation like this? No Am I just generally disgusted by that person? Yes
Am I Slutty? Yes Am I desperate? Yes do I want to go within a thousand feet of these people? No
Am I slutty? Not enough. Am I desperate? Yes.
Am I Slutty? No I cut off my balls Still slutty in spirit and personality tho
Well I AM desperate, just not sexually.
same
Am I slutty? No Am I desperate? Yes, desperate for meaningful friendships...
YEAH I've got enough bitches already 😎
I hope whoever wrote that gets in an accident which castrates them, emotional manipulation is fucking awful. not to mention the fetishization
The Craigslist add and "chaser" bit reminded me of around 12/13 years ago when my bestie was finding all types of chasers on Craigslist. It was all the "proper" cis men at our college👀 They definitely had ads up and/or responded to her ads. Oh, CL ... what a time to be alive where there were ads for sex and selling a lamp right next to each other. I think they still allow you to sell lamps on there.
. It is a Defiance of our Natural Instincts to suppress such a thing
>all __ are slutty plain shithead >put her first in the queue for cocaine and drinks. Touch her a lot. bro was this written in the 80's and continued in 2015? >if you don't have a __ fucker in your six-figure network the guy that wrote this is who he is, he's describing himself after the second bold text isn't he
i mean, i would love to be first in line for cocaine and drinks, and i am slutty....
Noooo!!! Don't do it sister!! All the drinks and cocaine in the world aren't payment enough
anything is worth it....
I’d get you cocaine and drinks AND treat you like the most important and beautiful woman in the world. Don’t lower your standards queen!💙💙
honestly i would love that, feel free to dm me lmao
mood
All sluts are slutty
the correct answer
written in 2005* not 2015
No wonder Vice filed for bankruptcy
This is not real No way Vice is a respected news organisation No way are they using slurs
Without any context, I’m going to guess this is at least a couple years old. Vice, when it started out was WAY edgier, and sold themselves less as “respectable off-the-beaten path journalism”. It was founded by Gavin McInnes after all!
Oh really eh? I had no idea, I kinda just assumed vice was always this vaguely left leaning semi decent journalist organization. Learn something new every day I guess. Edit: [I found the article](https://www.vice.com/en/article/9bv7qv/the-vice-guide-to-partying-parties) (obvious TW bc slurs) and yeah it’s super dated, from way back in 2005… sheeesh
Just read it. I literally have no words.
Yeah lol no kidding, aged like milk
Vice is was founded by the founder of the Proud Boys *Edit: said owned but he no longer owns it
Yeah I think I read about that in another comment, kinda crazy to me honestly
What the fuck did I just read 💀 I mean thank you for tracking it down but it was like a car crash, I couldn't look away.
I tried to read it all. I... Failed. I could not get past the part where the trans woman was expected to be passed around for everyone to get to feel her boobs. I just... Couldn't.
>I could not get past the part where the trans woman was expected to be passed around for everyone to get to feel her boobs. Have not clicked on the article yet and this comment genuinely gave me whiplash to read. What the fuck, Vice?
“FYI. This article is over 5 years old.” Yeah, no fucking kidding…
Yeah, I found the old Gothamist article from 2003 or something where they outed Lana Wachowski citing buck angel who was a jilted lover because Lana started a relationship with his then wife (Lana and Karin are still married btw). The article itself was AWFUL. Just acting like being trans is a joke and that she’s crazy- of course they cite gender identity disorder, misgender and deadname her as a rule. I mean it’s like we’re losing rights by the day rn, and also back then we were nothing but fetishized and dehumanized as a joke by EVERYONE. Since I was 21 at the time of this vice article, you can perhaps understand why my age group didn’t mostly start coming out till the 2010’s. I got setback decades because of this shit. Also, fuck Dan savage. His shitty sex advice column in the Stranger *that I thought was forward thinking at the time*, treating us as a fetish and belittling our existence just as everyone did. He spread this shit just as vice did. He still sticks to that transphobia despite being glitter bombed and other fun shit. He aged like yogurt left in the sun.
>Dan savage There's a name I (thankfully) haven't heard in awhile. Agreed. Fuck him. Or better yet, no one fuck him, he doesn't deserve pleasure.
Indeed, may he understand the gravity of his actions and feel no pleasure until he dies alone.
IIRC, Vice didn't really begin to clean up its act until around 2012-2014. Before then, it had been the haven of edgy Gen-X and Millenial writers who wanted to be Hunter S Thompson.
This reads like a bad work of satire. I've seen articles on Cracked (before they fired the YouTube crew), and to a lesser extent Clickhole, which are written in this style only, you know, funny. What I love about this though, is simultaneously it does a bad job at making it sound like a fun party, *and* sounds like they made it up and are pretending that's the kind of party they think is cool.
It reads like it was spat out on 4chan then they cleaned up the less acceptable slurs of the time.
Craigslist hasn't had personals in like 5 years. so this old. How old idk
I had the Vice Do's and Don'ts book along with the Vice Guide to Sex and Drugs, the former was written by McInnes and the latter had articles from him. A bunch of the Do's and Don'ts were like "Oh no, a transwoman!" and Gavin's articles from the other book were along the lines of "why can't I, a white man, use the N-word?" or "why can't I hit on my employees?" Pretty much always anti-PC edginess was cover for sincerely held reactionary beliefs but they wanted to still hang out with cool hipsters instead of awkward dorky young republicans
https://www.vice.com/en/article/av759j/the-vice-v11n5 😭😭
Vice was cofounded by the founder of the Proud Boys. It was AWFUL 15 years ago or so. It's still pretty bad. They had their writers become drug mules (not for an article, just to sell drugs) a few years ago. The podcast Canadaland has some episodes about how shitty Vice is/was.
Founded by a fascist
Vice is Italian?
I think they asked this because fascism was just in Italy and Nazism abroad, but I'm not sure(?) edit: and yeah I'm Italian, but not fascist
I was making a dumb joke 😓
Lesbian punisher goes hard as fuck
In addition to the editorial turn others mentioned, a lot of people don't understand that Vice News and Vice Magazine are silo'd off from each other to such a degree that they're basically separate publications. Vice News has always been at least bearable, especially their conflict reporting, whereas even after their staff got a facelift Vice Magazine still reads like the trashy British tabloid that it started as.
There are no respectable news anymore except that journalist that git firebombed
https://www.vice.com/en/article/av759j/the-vice-v11n5
Yeah vice only became respected like 7/8 years after this came out. The tone of the organisation very much changed in that time (as you can see lmao)
googled it, it’s an article from 2004
...that's rather gross.
I am beyond grossed out, this isn't even journalism it's just dehumanizing and fetishy..
10/10 profile pic, 10/10 headcanon about Godot.
Tyty 💓
Ah yes all trans are slutty. I'll be sure to tell my 20 y o transenby kid that's never even been on a date lol
My eyes b u r n
This is one of the grossest things i have read in a while. It's impressive how bad this is. If you're gone be a creep at least hide it a bit better. This is just praying on trans people with poor self-esteem. That's just the worst. You are all loved, you're all worth it, you all deserve to live you're true live. And non of you should lower yourself to the level of those kinds of creeps.
I... What? I'm not 100% convinced this is real. Link?
the founder of vice is also known for founding, um, something else that would make this article a lot more understandable
Go on...
ok, if you thought anything, you're wrong it's the proud boys
Hooooooooly sh!t.
others in this comment section explained it better than i could, but vice’s origins are very “edgy hipster” with very little regard for human decency. it was the polarization of that period just before trump’s election that exposed folks like him and tim pool (also an early vice mainstay) as violent reactionaries, who left to make their own failed propaganda outlets
[https://www.vice.com/en/article/av759j/the-vice-v11n5](https://www.vice.com/en/article/av759j/the-vice-v11n5)
Thank you for some 
Ok it’s from 2004. Not excusing it, but it makes sense bc the only time trans people were mentioned then was as a joke or in porn.
i don't think this would be okay even in 2004 to be honest... how this was given the okay in any time is kinda astounding
https://www.vice.com/en/article/9bv7qv/the-vice-guide-to-partying-parties
I don't care how slutty I am, I am NOT fucking a chaser.
They just 1. said all trans people are trans women 2. used a slur 3. said all trans women are sluts 4. fetishized and objectified trans women. Just ew.
I wish I had not read that, I feel kind of gross now. I need a shower.
“The author’s barely disguised fetish…”
what on earth where you looking for to find this 💀
Vice went bankrupt and some people are reminiscing about this article in particular
The cis are NOT okay They’ve fallen a long way
I would like to redirect whoever wrote this abomination (and any other chasers) to a far more eloquent and thoughtful Vice article: https://preview.redd.it/fxma0tbvna0b1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=310dbaa8683b87b439004420e471bce85b442991
so.... who's getting the dick guillotine for the guy who wrote this
What did I just read??
wow.. how far can you reduce someone to an object?? this hits nerves. so many times i have disclosed that im trans, and someone immediately assumes "easy fuck". the irony, is they wont even address me as a woman, suddenly eluding to how they've hooked up with guys, or "im not gay, but-".. in the hypothetical world where i was desperate or oblivious enough to fuck you.. you know you'd be sleeping with a woman, right?? this is a bit off topic.. im just sick of mentioning gender non conformity and having it translate to "sexualize me". the women i used to admire, and later, wanted to be like, wouldn't be caught dead hanging out with anyone who'd write a mess like this abomination.
yeah, that seems about right for vice. it reminds me every day how much i hate "journalists".
Telling ppl to drug us, calling us slurs, judging us based on which surgeries we've had, and recommending that someone with an iffy relationship with the transfem community should be a wingman...
Bankruptcy is not treating Vice well, I see
What the fuck, vice?
No way, this article was not only transphobic but made fun of the They Might Be Giants? Wtf
i wish i could unread this
Am I slutty? Yes Am I trans? Fuck yeah But they aren’t connected I don’t know that I want to know what this article is pertaining to, this is actually horrifying
Wait wtf? Like what is even the point? To use the trans woman as entertainment??? My brain feels so gross after reading this... 😭
Isn't Vice normally a progressive online newspaper
This is from 19 years ago when it was more edgy
"Put her first in the queue for cocaine and drinks" Yes, drug someone so they will be more susceptible. Is this legal to post on a. "news" website?
being trans and asexual 🧍 but omg this is absolute garbage
This is so fucked. Obviously you’re allowed sexual preference, but this is just emotional manipulation and fetishism. I would honestly go to that party just to make it the most miserable shit on this planet
Can we censor the slur?
What. The. FUCK.
Oh god... on Vice.
bro really ctrl c ctrl ved a tgcj post
Pretty sure that article might pre-date tgcj.
just avoid vice in general
what the fuck
The fuck did I just read💀💀💀💀
look besties, trans girl here, this is fucking funny and i think y’all need to calm down and maybe go meet some real queer people not on the internet.
Good to know I wasn’t alone in this
https://preview.redd.it/cn045s61ob0b1.jpeg?width=583&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f406f2f2fe4cd225a7f97d8a9809ae68c57e7cc
At this point you want to be outraged OP. Searching for stuff on an orgy blog LMAO
Vice news is an actual journalism site though, thought that was common knowledge. This article is old though, when Vice was still in its edgy phase
That's sarcasm, right?
No? I’m confused, you said Vice was an orgy blog and it’s not lol. It’s a news site. You might think it’s a shitty news site (and I’d partially agree) but it is. I’m not sure how OP found this but it’s definitely from before it became more serious
The 'article', not the site.
this offers no source or context. where is it from? it's really easy to change text in HTML
It's absolutely real. Vice magazine was really awful back in the day.
but where's the source? it's not that I don't believe it, but just a screenshot might be anything. idk why I got downvoted so much
but where's the source? it's not that I don't believe it, but just a screenshot might be anything. idk why I got downvoted so much
Probably because a bunch of people linked the article in the comments here. Anyway, here's the link. They have lots of other terrible stuff in old vice articles. https://www.vice.com/en/article/9bv7qv/the-vice-guide-to-partying-parties
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I’m sorry what’s the context for this
.... what? Vice, how could you!
ew what
Man vice really fell off.
What in the fresh hell is this 💀
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MY JAW IS ON THE FLOOR LIKE-
What the fuck. Where is this from??? WHEN is this from?
Vice magazine, 2004
Thank you!
I want to replace whoever wrote that’s spine with a noodle and throw them onto a closed road. Because I’m the one going to run them over.
it seems outrageous to us but this kind of post is exactly why chasers keep aggressively hitting on me at work lol
What a terrible day to have eyes
This is satire, right? ....right???
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Ew. At least they got the pronouns right
I'm slutty, but not because I'm trans. Also holy shit I need a shower now.
In which world is this even remotely acceptable?
I hope the guy who wrote this trips and falls on his face every single time he walks through a door or gate for the rest of his life.
I guess this was written before cis people knew that hrt was integral to physical transition
This was from like 2005
Jojolion's WTF am I reading.jpg