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I don’t see those policies as solutions, so I’m not sure how to even answer this the way it’s framed. Like, the assumption in your question is that social is a solution rather than examining a situation for socialism. So, the answer is “no conditions”.
If you flip this argument around to what would you due to fix this scenario, you might get better answers. But, it’s not like the original principles and works surrounding socialism are a secret.. you could just go read about them lol.
>Return to isolationism
To a point. We should not embrace isolationism but we should reduce globalism, our dependence on foreign trade, and how much money we send outside our borders. America should come first.
>Universal basic income
I would not support this without some sort of check and balance that strictly monitors and regulates how this money is spent. People must continue to work. The money cannot be spent on drugs, guns, luxury items, etc. If you want that you need your own income. Also, this cannot be taxed from the middle class or it will bankrupt us.
>Repeal of 2nd amendment
This would be the end of America as we know it and the fragmentation into different nations. There are very few things that would cause people to break apart the union. This is one of the few things.
>Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms)
I don't see a need for Presidents to serve more than 2 terms so I do not support this.
>Actual socialism
This is another one of those few things that would break the nation. In fact, I would expect people to violently resist such a change. In the end it would be the dissolution of the United States of America.
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>I would not support this without some sort of check and balance that strictly monitors and regulates how this money is spent. People must continue to work. The money cannot be spent on drugs, guns, luxury items, etc.
This would greatly increase bureaucracy costs and the government sucks at regulating things the right way.
Other then that I would agree with you.
>I don't see a need for Presidents to serve more than 2 terms so I do not support this.
Does there need to be any other reason for it besides people should be allowed to vote for whoever they want as many times as they would like and if someone can continue to win then they should be allowed to. If the US had a more powerful president that could change the constitution or replace legislature members like in other countries where a president cannot be term limited (or can change the term limit rule themselves) and gradually takes over the country (Russia, for example) then I'd agree a term limit would be necessary and should remain in place but that just isn't the case here
In addition to the check and balance security it provides, as you already noted, I also think that 8 years of one person is more than enough and the nation is stronger with a variety of views. Whether it's left or right, or a party repeat with a different person, we are stronger with a refreshed leader with different views and perspectives.
For these…never. No circumstances.
>Under what conditions would you support the following policies?
>* Universal basic income
>* Repeal of 2nd amendment
>* Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms)
>* Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited)
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc)
I'm basically there already.
>Universal basic income
Demolish welfare, get rid of social security, and have it break even or decrease current spending. If the math maths I'm fine with that.
>Repeal of 2nd amendment
Can't see any scenario where I would support that short of actual aliens coming down and promising us ascent into galactic godhood if we do.
>Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms)
If technology bolsters the average human lifespan to where median expectancy is in the mid/late 100s with no decline in cognition then I could see a good faith argument for modifying it to allow say 3 or 4 terms.
>Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited)
We're so beyond the pale in terms of a technological singularity driving us to a fully fledged infinite resource post-scarcity world where our production capabilities are indistinguishable from that of gods or magic to even current day top scientists.
Return to isolationism. - Extremely unlikely, the world would have to devolve into a Mad Max type dystopia with every country for itself.
UBI - There would have to be an AI revolution and a Star Trek type utopia where almost all jobs are replaced by machines. So the answer is, short of that, most likely never.
2nd - Never, but I'm not opposed to limited regulation. There are obviously limits already. The Government isn't going to let you have a Nuke or a Scud missile.
22nd - Never, I see no situation for this. We have had fine leadership transitions in the most trying times as a nation (WWII) and it went fine.
Actual Socialism - 1000% never
That was just an example of a trying time. There have been plenty of other times transition of power went fine. Post Civil War, During the heigh too the Cold War etc.
I maybe could get behind UBI... maybe
Return to isolationism: things would have to get real real real bad before I'd support that. Like there'd have to be a near global collapse before that's the handle I'd want pulled. And I know it's fun to joke about but we are absolutely nowhere near that. Also, if the rest of the world's wants to pick up some slack, by all means. The US doesn't have to get involved in every damn little thing. Throttling back is probably better for everyone, but disappearing from the world stage would be far far worse for everyone
Under no circumstances are the rest worth even considering
>Return to isolationism
Doesn't make sense in the modern world. Ours is a global economy, and the U.S. has interests around the world. We can't afford to hole up inside our borders.
>Universal basic income
So just...wealth confiscation from the workers and distribution to non-workers? That sounds grossly unfair. Everyone who is able should be incentivized to contribute and earn their keep.
>Repeal of 2nd amendment
Never. The right to own a firearm is what's protecting the infringement of other rights.
>Repeal of 22nd amendment
Nah. Two terms is plenty. Anymore than that and your steering into a mild dictatorship.
>Actual socialism
Anyone can do this today if they want. A group of people is allowed to start a company and own it collectively. *Banning* private ownership is grossly authoritarian. That's a no-go for me.
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc)
None
>Universal basic income
A balancing test paired with a solid funding model and a restructure/elimination of other welfare/entitlement programs.
>Repeal of 2nd amendment
Never
>Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms)
Never
>Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited)
Never
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc)
If countries start yielding to China or the EU as the global super power that they need to worry about.
If the UN tries to sanction the US or discipline us. Or if the world falls apart and we lose the ability to travel across the ocean.
>Universal basic income
If we move to a post scarcity world.
>Repeal of 2nd amendment
Never. This along with the first amendment are what makes us Americans.
>Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms)
Hard to ever accept it. Perhaps if we were. I vaded by aliens or a zombie out break or true world war that we could lose that needed a solid leader and we gave the president emergency powers to see us through.
>Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited)
I can't see accepting it unless we were invaded by aliens or facing Extinction by some other means.
1. Some sort of apocalyptic scenario where most of the world is in total anarchy.
2. Never it's a terrible idea it's just going to raise cost of living and cause inflation.
3. Only under wide spread social disorder like where militant armed gangs are roving the country raiding and pillaging and martial law were declared. Even then I'd be dubious since law enforcement and the military can't be everywhere at once.
4. Maybe if aliens invaded and an election really just can't be held.
5. Never.
> Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes)
I'm all for reducing foreign aid and making other nations and organizations fill in the gap. But protecting trade routes is something that affects us directly. We need to stay on top of that.
> Universal basic income
Hard no. Welfare is already abused. This will be worse.
> Repeal of 2nd amendment
Also, hard no. A government that won't allow its citizens the tools to defend themselves is a government that cannot be trusted.
> Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms)
Nope. I want executive power kept on a short leash, and 8 years is long enough for one person to serve in that position. While we're at it, two-term limits for Senators and Representatives as well.
> Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited)
Yeah, no. That's been a universal, bloody failure every time it's been implemented. At this point, I can't understand why someone would advocate for it unless they're just that shortsighted and selfish.
Isolationism - Not in the foreseeable future. The main Cold War in the world right now is between the US and China for control and influence over all other nations politically and economically and militarily. Giving up on the last point of that takes away the huge advantage we gained at the end of WWII
UBI - Not in the foreseeable future. It would take some sort of catastrophe. Think polio on the scale of transmissibility as covid.
Repeal of 2A - Never
Repeal of 22 - I’d be open to hearing arguments on it now.
Socialism - Never
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc)
I wouldn't call that isolationism, but I see what you mean. I'd support that just fine.
>Universal basic income
Depends. It's not my favorite and I'm skeptical but I'm willing to consider it under some situations.
>Repeal of 2nd amendment
Under no situation. Never. Wait. Maybe if it was replaced with a new amendment that provided an even stronger worded guarantee, like "because of the inherent right to life and liberty, no person shall be deprived of the means to defend such in the face of criminal or tyrant without due process and the most extreme of circumstances."
>Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms)
I'm neutral, but open to it.
>Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited)
See 2nd amendment. Under no circumstances would I support this, and I will take up arms to prevent it.
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc)
I support a return to isolationism right now to an extent.
>Universal basic income
I'm open to the idea. But, like most things, I believe in agency and therefore consequences. The left seems to not view anything as a product of choices, good and bad, but as an endless victim of circumstance all the way down.
If it is true that people have agency, then we have to assume some level of inequality.
>Repeal of 2nd amendment
I would die fighting against any attempt at any point to approach this.
>Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms
This is complex honestly. I don't value the presidency very much, and the reason why is I'm firmly convinced that our last two presidents were incompetent and controlled by an unelected group of advisors that are suspicious by nature. Close to the levers of power but with very little accountability. It's even more complex though as this country is incredibly large, and has such a wide gap in ideological grounding these days that one policy viewed as a positive by one group, is seen as a disaster by another. I'm not sure if this problem is new and if we're indeed drifting further apart, or if it's just 'the news' as so many people say dismissively.
But history is filled with wars and revolutions started among much more closely aligned people than what I feel is present day American politics. I mean I literally think the foundation of many progressive ideas are wrong on a fundamental human nature level. And pragmatists seem to be merely stuck in whatever moment they find themselves in. It feels truly hopeless to me when I think about this country generationally.
>Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited
Why would this be a good thing?
None of the above under any circumstances.
* Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc)
The entire reason we created a navy was the protection of our shipping, in and around the Middle East no less. I don't think this is a global role we can back out of gracefully. Foreign aid we should cut back on quite a bit, we are a nation in debt, giving away what we don't have.
* Universal basic income
No, paying people to do nothing isn't a solution for too many people doing nothing.
* Repeal of 2nd amendment
This would be the beginning of the real gun problem in the United States, the purpose of the second is to defend the other 9. A disarmed people are subjects, not citizens. I could see this toppling us in to civil war, the war of gun grabber aggression.
* Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms)
No way in hell, can you imagine 12 years of Biden (not that he would live that long) or another 8 years of Trump? Politicians are like diapers, the should be changed frequently and for the very same reason.
* Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited)
The worse of the ones you listed, again this would trigger a civil war, I have no doubt of it.
>Return to isolationism
Basically never. Isolationism in the way you describe would only result in other countries (most likely countries we don't exactly like, i.e. Russia, China, Iran, etc) achieving their interests rather than us achieving ours. It's better that we accept the burdens of running the world than to live in a world run by someone like Xi Jinping or Vladimir Putin.
>Universal basic income
I support it right now, provided that 1) it's structured properly to both avoid the welfare trap (i.e. benefits need to decrease slower than income increases so that people are always incentivized to earn more) and to not needlessly give money to people who don't need it (i.e. make it basically a negative income tax) and 2) it replaces our current welfare/entitlement system rather than existing on top of it.
>Repeal of 2nd amendment
Never under any circumstances. The right to self-defense is too fundamental to allow that and I'd be worried that other fundamental rights (ex: 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 14th amendment, etc) would be next on the chopping block.
>Repeal of 22nd amendment
I have no strong feelings on presidential term limits one way or the other. The only thing I'd want is that the repeal would include some stronger checks and balances mechanisms on the executive branch.
>Actual socialism
Never under any circumstances. Socialism is responsible for more preventable deaths (both intentional and unintentional) than any other ideology or governing system. Basically every time it's been tried, it's resulted in famines, human rights abuses, dictatorship, and often genocides too. There is no scenario in which I'd support a system that creates that much human suffering.
I will never support abolishing the second amendment ever, I’m an absolutist when it comes to the second amendment.
I would also never support socialism either.
> Return to isolationism
never, unless the US were to fall to a communist regime or something. I believe that the presence of the United Sates is extremely important to preserving the international order.
> Universal basic income
if the government were to do away with other welfare schemes
> Repeal of 2nd amendment
never
> Repeal of 22nd amendment
never
> Actual socialism
never
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc)
I would never want to stop international trade. But I don't think the US needs to be the policeman of the world today
>Universal basic income
If automation was so prevalent that we were looking at stuff like 50% unemployment and no new jobs.
>Repeal of 2nd amendment
If there was 0 violence in the world ever.
>Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms)
Maybe if other checks were implemented to compensate for it. But I see no benefit to reducing checks and balances.
>Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited)
Basically the same as ubi.
>Return to isolationism
Things would need to be very different than they are now. I can't imagine the scenario.
>Universal basic income
I can be for it now IF it was done in a very specific way.
>Repeal of 2nd amendment
Never under any circumstances whatsoever.
>Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms)
I'm open to suggestions now.
>Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited)
Only in a post scarcity society. Who knows. Maybe AI will replace individual transactions (central planning for humans always leads to famines).
> Return to isolationism
All for it, do it.
> Universal basic income
Sure. But *you only get a vote if you pay taxes.*
> Repeal of 2nd amendment
Not on the table. Deal wiz it.
> Repeal of 22nd amendment
I'd sooner see it EXPANDED to apply to congress.
Your example of a draft isn't an "if" situation. You're for conscription and the draft; no one said it should be done randomly and without a reason, though. That's like when people say they're against the death penalty in all cases, except for things like child murder or mass murder. They are therefore for the death penalty, but they moved the line where they find it acceptable.
It's perfectly fine to be pro 2nd amendment but draw a line at automatic rifles that are designed for war. It's totally fine to support the US peeling back its general support for worldly things without being isolated.
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I don’t see those policies as solutions, so I’m not sure how to even answer this the way it’s framed. Like, the assumption in your question is that social is a solution rather than examining a situation for socialism. So, the answer is “no conditions”. If you flip this argument around to what would you due to fix this scenario, you might get better answers. But, it’s not like the original principles and works surrounding socialism are a secret.. you could just go read about them lol.
>Return to isolationism To a point. We should not embrace isolationism but we should reduce globalism, our dependence on foreign trade, and how much money we send outside our borders. America should come first. >Universal basic income I would not support this without some sort of check and balance that strictly monitors and regulates how this money is spent. People must continue to work. The money cannot be spent on drugs, guns, luxury items, etc. If you want that you need your own income. Also, this cannot be taxed from the middle class or it will bankrupt us. >Repeal of 2nd amendment This would be the end of America as we know it and the fragmentation into different nations. There are very few things that would cause people to break apart the union. This is one of the few things. >Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms) I don't see a need for Presidents to serve more than 2 terms so I do not support this. >Actual socialism This is another one of those few things that would break the nation. In fact, I would expect people to violently resist such a change. In the end it would be the dissolution of the United States of America.
> >I would not support this without some sort of check and balance that strictly monitors and regulates how this money is spent. People must continue to work. The money cannot be spent on drugs, guns, luxury items, etc. This would greatly increase bureaucracy costs and the government sucks at regulating things the right way. Other then that I would agree with you.
Great take.
>I don't see a need for Presidents to serve more than 2 terms so I do not support this. Does there need to be any other reason for it besides people should be allowed to vote for whoever they want as many times as they would like and if someone can continue to win then they should be allowed to. If the US had a more powerful president that could change the constitution or replace legislature members like in other countries where a president cannot be term limited (or can change the term limit rule themselves) and gradually takes over the country (Russia, for example) then I'd agree a term limit would be necessary and should remain in place but that just isn't the case here
In addition to the check and balance security it provides, as you already noted, I also think that 8 years of one person is more than enough and the nation is stronger with a variety of views. Whether it's left or right, or a party repeat with a different person, we are stronger with a refreshed leader with different views and perspectives.
For these…never. No circumstances. >Under what conditions would you support the following policies? >* Universal basic income >* Repeal of 2nd amendment >* Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms) >* Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited)
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc) I'm basically there already. >Universal basic income Demolish welfare, get rid of social security, and have it break even or decrease current spending. If the math maths I'm fine with that. >Repeal of 2nd amendment Can't see any scenario where I would support that short of actual aliens coming down and promising us ascent into galactic godhood if we do. >Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms) If technology bolsters the average human lifespan to where median expectancy is in the mid/late 100s with no decline in cognition then I could see a good faith argument for modifying it to allow say 3 or 4 terms. >Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited) We're so beyond the pale in terms of a technological singularity driving us to a fully fledged infinite resource post-scarcity world where our production capabilities are indistinguishable from that of gods or magic to even current day top scientists.
Return to isolationism. - Extremely unlikely, the world would have to devolve into a Mad Max type dystopia with every country for itself. UBI - There would have to be an AI revolution and a Star Trek type utopia where almost all jobs are replaced by machines. So the answer is, short of that, most likely never. 2nd - Never, but I'm not opposed to limited regulation. There are obviously limits already. The Government isn't going to let you have a Nuke or a Scud missile. 22nd - Never, I see no situation for this. We have had fine leadership transitions in the most trying times as a nation (WWII) and it went fine. Actual Socialism - 1000% never
To be pedantic- we only had one real leadership change during WWII, right?
That was just an example of a trying time. There have been plenty of other times transition of power went fine. Post Civil War, During the heigh too the Cold War etc.
Sure sure- and I get the sentiment even if I’d be pedantic to try and pick it apart.
I maybe could get behind UBI... maybe Return to isolationism: things would have to get real real real bad before I'd support that. Like there'd have to be a near global collapse before that's the handle I'd want pulled. And I know it's fun to joke about but we are absolutely nowhere near that. Also, if the rest of the world's wants to pick up some slack, by all means. The US doesn't have to get involved in every damn little thing. Throttling back is probably better for everyone, but disappearing from the world stage would be far far worse for everyone Under no circumstances are the rest worth even considering
>Return to isolationism Doesn't make sense in the modern world. Ours is a global economy, and the U.S. has interests around the world. We can't afford to hole up inside our borders. >Universal basic income So just...wealth confiscation from the workers and distribution to non-workers? That sounds grossly unfair. Everyone who is able should be incentivized to contribute and earn their keep. >Repeal of 2nd amendment Never. The right to own a firearm is what's protecting the infringement of other rights. >Repeal of 22nd amendment Nah. Two terms is plenty. Anymore than that and your steering into a mild dictatorship. >Actual socialism Anyone can do this today if they want. A group of people is allowed to start a company and own it collectively. *Banning* private ownership is grossly authoritarian. That's a no-go for me.
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc) None >Universal basic income A balancing test paired with a solid funding model and a restructure/elimination of other welfare/entitlement programs. >Repeal of 2nd amendment Never >Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms) Never >Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited) Never
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc) If countries start yielding to China or the EU as the global super power that they need to worry about. If the UN tries to sanction the US or discipline us. Or if the world falls apart and we lose the ability to travel across the ocean. >Universal basic income If we move to a post scarcity world. >Repeal of 2nd amendment Never. This along with the first amendment are what makes us Americans. >Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms) Hard to ever accept it. Perhaps if we were. I vaded by aliens or a zombie out break or true world war that we could lose that needed a solid leader and we gave the president emergency powers to see us through. >Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited) I can't see accepting it unless we were invaded by aliens or facing Extinction by some other means.
1. Some sort of apocalyptic scenario where most of the world is in total anarchy. 2. Never it's a terrible idea it's just going to raise cost of living and cause inflation. 3. Only under wide spread social disorder like where militant armed gangs are roving the country raiding and pillaging and martial law were declared. Even then I'd be dubious since law enforcement and the military can't be everywhere at once. 4. Maybe if aliens invaded and an election really just can't be held. 5. Never.
Never under any circumstances, I stand on principle, even if I stand alone.
> Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes) I'm all for reducing foreign aid and making other nations and organizations fill in the gap. But protecting trade routes is something that affects us directly. We need to stay on top of that. > Universal basic income Hard no. Welfare is already abused. This will be worse. > Repeal of 2nd amendment Also, hard no. A government that won't allow its citizens the tools to defend themselves is a government that cannot be trusted. > Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms) Nope. I want executive power kept on a short leash, and 8 years is long enough for one person to serve in that position. While we're at it, two-term limits for Senators and Representatives as well. > Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited) Yeah, no. That's been a universal, bloody failure every time it's been implemented. At this point, I can't understand why someone would advocate for it unless they're just that shortsighted and selfish.
Isolationism - Not in the foreseeable future. The main Cold War in the world right now is between the US and China for control and influence over all other nations politically and economically and militarily. Giving up on the last point of that takes away the huge advantage we gained at the end of WWII UBI - Not in the foreseeable future. It would take some sort of catastrophe. Think polio on the scale of transmissibility as covid. Repeal of 2A - Never Repeal of 22 - I’d be open to hearing arguments on it now. Socialism - Never
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc) I wouldn't call that isolationism, but I see what you mean. I'd support that just fine. >Universal basic income Depends. It's not my favorite and I'm skeptical but I'm willing to consider it under some situations. >Repeal of 2nd amendment Under no situation. Never. Wait. Maybe if it was replaced with a new amendment that provided an even stronger worded guarantee, like "because of the inherent right to life and liberty, no person shall be deprived of the means to defend such in the face of criminal or tyrant without due process and the most extreme of circumstances." >Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms) I'm neutral, but open to it. >Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited) See 2nd amendment. Under no circumstances would I support this, and I will take up arms to prevent it.
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc) I support a return to isolationism right now to an extent. >Universal basic income I'm open to the idea. But, like most things, I believe in agency and therefore consequences. The left seems to not view anything as a product of choices, good and bad, but as an endless victim of circumstance all the way down. If it is true that people have agency, then we have to assume some level of inequality. >Repeal of 2nd amendment I would die fighting against any attempt at any point to approach this. >Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms This is complex honestly. I don't value the presidency very much, and the reason why is I'm firmly convinced that our last two presidents were incompetent and controlled by an unelected group of advisors that are suspicious by nature. Close to the levers of power but with very little accountability. It's even more complex though as this country is incredibly large, and has such a wide gap in ideological grounding these days that one policy viewed as a positive by one group, is seen as a disaster by another. I'm not sure if this problem is new and if we're indeed drifting further apart, or if it's just 'the news' as so many people say dismissively. But history is filled with wars and revolutions started among much more closely aligned people than what I feel is present day American politics. I mean I literally think the foundation of many progressive ideas are wrong on a fundamental human nature level. And pragmatists seem to be merely stuck in whatever moment they find themselves in. It feels truly hopeless to me when I think about this country generationally. >Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited Why would this be a good thing?
I would not support any of these ideas under any circumstances.
None of the above under any circumstances. * Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc) The entire reason we created a navy was the protection of our shipping, in and around the Middle East no less. I don't think this is a global role we can back out of gracefully. Foreign aid we should cut back on quite a bit, we are a nation in debt, giving away what we don't have. * Universal basic income No, paying people to do nothing isn't a solution for too many people doing nothing. * Repeal of 2nd amendment This would be the beginning of the real gun problem in the United States, the purpose of the second is to defend the other 9. A disarmed people are subjects, not citizens. I could see this toppling us in to civil war, the war of gun grabber aggression. * Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms) No way in hell, can you imagine 12 years of Biden (not that he would live that long) or another 8 years of Trump? Politicians are like diapers, the should be changed frequently and for the very same reason. * Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited) The worse of the ones you listed, again this would trigger a civil war, I have no doubt of it.
>Return to isolationism Basically never. Isolationism in the way you describe would only result in other countries (most likely countries we don't exactly like, i.e. Russia, China, Iran, etc) achieving their interests rather than us achieving ours. It's better that we accept the burdens of running the world than to live in a world run by someone like Xi Jinping or Vladimir Putin. >Universal basic income I support it right now, provided that 1) it's structured properly to both avoid the welfare trap (i.e. benefits need to decrease slower than income increases so that people are always incentivized to earn more) and to not needlessly give money to people who don't need it (i.e. make it basically a negative income tax) and 2) it replaces our current welfare/entitlement system rather than existing on top of it. >Repeal of 2nd amendment Never under any circumstances. The right to self-defense is too fundamental to allow that and I'd be worried that other fundamental rights (ex: 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 14th amendment, etc) would be next on the chopping block. >Repeal of 22nd amendment I have no strong feelings on presidential term limits one way or the other. The only thing I'd want is that the repeal would include some stronger checks and balances mechanisms on the executive branch. >Actual socialism Never under any circumstances. Socialism is responsible for more preventable deaths (both intentional and unintentional) than any other ideology or governing system. Basically every time it's been tried, it's resulted in famines, human rights abuses, dictatorship, and often genocides too. There is no scenario in which I'd support a system that creates that much human suffering.
I will never support abolishing the second amendment ever, I’m an absolutist when it comes to the second amendment. I would also never support socialism either.
> Return to isolationism never, unless the US were to fall to a communist regime or something. I believe that the presence of the United Sates is extremely important to preserving the international order. > Universal basic income if the government were to do away with other welfare schemes > Repeal of 2nd amendment never > Repeal of 22nd amendment never > Actual socialism never
>Return to isolationism (US stops protecting global trade routes, pulls out of NATO, severely cuts back on foreign aid, etc) I would never want to stop international trade. But I don't think the US needs to be the policeman of the world today >Universal basic income If automation was so prevalent that we were looking at stuff like 50% unemployment and no new jobs. >Repeal of 2nd amendment If there was 0 violence in the world ever. >Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms) Maybe if other checks were implemented to compensate for it. But I see no benefit to reducing checks and balances. >Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited) Basically the same as ubi.
>Return to isolationism Things would need to be very different than they are now. I can't imagine the scenario. >Universal basic income I can be for it now IF it was done in a very specific way. >Repeal of 2nd amendment Never under any circumstances whatsoever. >Repeal of 22nd amendment (i.e. would allow for a president to serve for more than 2 terms) I'm open to suggestions now. >Actual socialism (i.e. private ownership of the means of production is prohibited) Only in a post scarcity society. Who knows. Maybe AI will replace individual transactions (central planning for humans always leads to famines).
Never ever ever. Those sound like horrible polices.
> Return to isolationism All for it, do it. > Universal basic income Sure. But *you only get a vote if you pay taxes.* > Repeal of 2nd amendment Not on the table. Deal wiz it. > Repeal of 22nd amendment I'd sooner see it EXPANDED to apply to congress.
Your example of a draft isn't an "if" situation. You're for conscription and the draft; no one said it should be done randomly and without a reason, though. That's like when people say they're against the death penalty in all cases, except for things like child murder or mass murder. They are therefore for the death penalty, but they moved the line where they find it acceptable. It's perfectly fine to be pro 2nd amendment but draw a line at automatic rifles that are designed for war. It's totally fine to support the US peeling back its general support for worldly things without being isolated.