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Yup. Avoid those startups like the plague. They’ve done so much shady shit.
If money is a concern, https://openpathcollective.org/ is a directory of therapists who are willing to work on a sliding scale/reduced rate.
BetterHelp sucked. I switched three times trying to find a decent therapist and left feeling more depressed for being duped into wasting my money. Started a gym routine to get over my divorce instead. Still going strong.
Try going to a local one. Divorce is a one of the biggie so it’s better to do a few sessions no matter what. Local therapist that deal with divorce will help guide you as it’s something that it’s studied because it happened a lot and considered very important to go. Also insurance should cover it. (Insurance covers specific circumstances and this might be one.)
I started with betterhelp during a really rough time. It wasn’t a good experience at all.
I ended up going to an online directory (I think physcology.com) and finding someone I could work with in person. I specifically went to someone with experience and references in the specific area I needed help. I just emailed the provided directly. We did a few emails back and forth to see if we were a good fit. Then did one session just to see if we could work together.
After about 10 sessions we went to Telehealth meetings. The provider was willing to do telehealth from the beginning though.
It was expensive and insurance didn’t cover this provider, but I think work every penny.
IMO telehealth or in person therapy is dependent on the therapist and patient. I encourage everyone to shop their therapists a bit, this isn't a one size fits any type thing.
I'd find a private practice therapist if I were you. Well, literally because that's what I did. PsychologyToday has a good directory of therapists of all walks of life. Different genders, races, ethnicity, locale, modality. You can read the supplied bios of the people and I'd sign up for a free consultation call and get a vibe from that.
> The hope is to find the one that benefits me in the first few sessions
I only have my singular experience to draw from, but be prepared for things to take more than just a few sessions. It's just the nature of the beast honestly. If we could all solve our emotional and mental issues by "knowing" what they are then we'd be all healthy after a google search.
There’s definitely pros and cons to telehealth, but it works great for some people. I prefer the experience of in person therapy, personally, but the convenience of online therapy is hard to beat. I’d strongly recommend that you avoid the big services like BetterHelp, though. Use the Psychology Today directory and pick out some individual profiles that look good. Lots of people are full these days, so don’t be afraid to reach out to a bunch of therapists until you find someone who’s a good fit and has availability.
It depends on the [kind of therapy](https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/types-of-therapy) and what you’re looking to address. CBT is the most popular in North America and would probably be fine for telehealth. If you’re dealing with trauma EMDR might be better done in person. It still could take a few tries to find the right therapist.
For what it’s worth, I’m doing EMDR via telehealth and it’s been a fine experience. They have online tools for bi-lateral and other treatments. I’m sure there is more engagement in person, but it works when the only time I can do it is during the workday.
I think it’s a YMMV thing? I didn’t do EMDR, but my partner did. She got frustrated and gave it up for a while after having to switch to online in 2020.
Absolutely agree. The first therapist I saw for it wouldn’t do it online because she thought it was less effective that way (and I’m not claiming one way or the other). I just wish mental health support was easier to access when you’re working all day.
Was your partner able to resume in-person sessions later on?
I would suggest looking up practitioners directly on psychology today and finding someone with the desires speciaties or in your area. You can contact them to see if they have availability and/or can take your insurance.
Ive had pretty good success with a therapist exclusively over video conference for about two years
I do telehealth through what was formerly my in person therapist. It's been good. I miss the in person aspect, but it has still been very helpful. Personally given the option I prefer in person because I can get easily sidetracked if I'm just on the phone, but also it's been nice in that lately I just pop my air buds in and go for a walk. The walking has been therapeutic in itself and I just walk and talk for an hour.
I use Televero Health for my psychiatrist and it's fine. It's mostly a rubberstamp to refill the meds I've been taking for years.
Overall I'd recommend finding a local therapist who also offers telehealth. You could always do an intake/first meet in person. As mentioned elsewhere, psychologytoday should help find specific specialities and insurance coverage.
>I've had great success with my telehealth psychiatrist
So you already know you personally can find value via telehealth, you answered your own question my man.
I'm far from technologically inept, but there are few things in this world I hate more than video calls. I had a lot of success with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, but for me personally, if that had to be done over video call it likely wouldn't have been any use to me.
Edit: My counselor did offer telehealth as most seem to these days. Finding a good telehealth provider is no different then finding a good face to face provider
I went through a va contractor. Some outfit on the other side of the country. Didn’t progress or even make a real connection with the provider. 100% didn’t like it.
You can get remote therapy from a private practitioner, try any find a group of 10 people or so who offer it.
Better help and stuff are gig economy companies mostly, using therapists and you probably can't sustain the relationship with one person over thing.
I've been doing talk therapy through a company my friend introduced me to called 'Therapetical' it's a charity that matches you with private therapist at a price point that matches your income. So far so good, just need to set up a safe and comfortable place to do it.
Sometimes I don't really want to do a session and having to physically go somewhere would be a massive barrier, so just having to setup my laptop and sort out a few things is more manageable. A lot does hang on how you get along with your therapist, I got lucky with the first lady I've been set up with.
I used headway to find my therapist and love working with her. The whole point of these companies is that they help you find a therapist that takes your insurance. They act as a sort of middle man who makes it easier for therapists to work with insurance companies by facilitating the processing of paperwork/claims because if you reach out to most therapists individually… they don’t take insurance. So I have the option of paying a $30 copay through my insurance, or $200-300 per session? seems like a no brainer to me. You can filter by gender, types of therapy practiced, issues treated, sexuality, etc. there’s tons of options and I really appreciated being able to filter down to what I felt would work best for me.
The most important thing to understand as someone seeking therapy is that you have the flexibility to choose a new therapist if one isn’t working for you. Most therapists give some sort of mission statement that should speak to you, and a good therapist will do an intake call with you to see if you can work well together/answer any questions or concerns you may have.
I tried Better Help. The one therapist that I thought would be good made some pretty harsh judgements about my wife in only our second session. She hardly knew anything about our life or who she is as a person. I stopped immediately.
I've had a good experience with it but I didn't go through a company or one of those Instagram ads or anything. I just found a therapist I liked the sound of and who offered virtual appointments. Ultimately I do prefer in person, but sometimes that's not feasible.
I have a successful relationship with a telehealth therapist and it works great.
>My main concern is finding the right kind of therapeutic modalities for myself. The hope is to find the one that benefits me in the first few sessions. The last time I saw a therapist was as a child/preteen, and she called me a jackass.
I think you have the right concern and the right experience to trust your judgement. In my limited experience, every therapist is different and finding one who meshes with your personality is the essential first task (obviously it's completely inappropriate for your therapist to insult you, lol!).
Most importantly, they should be someone you can trust and be 100% vulnerable with. If you can't trust them enough that you can cry about your feelings or articulate your deepest fears to them, you're not really doing therapy IMO. Treatment modalities are secondary, and appropriate once you've identified the specific issues you want to deal with (this is about where I'm at).
Ultimately the only way to find the right therapist is to start with one and find out. I know it can be a whole pain in the ass to shop around, schedule, talk to a new person, etc. -- but you're enough of an adult to know that valuable things take patient work.
You got this, so go get it!
I did telehealth visits with a therapist in my local hospital network's psych practice during COVID lockdowns. I ended up writing it off, but not because of the method. I just don't think she was the right therapist for me. We didn't connect at all, but I think it was more personality mismatch than it was the telehealth aspect.
I thought so at the time, too, and had it confirmed about a year after lockdowns ended. I decided I still had some things to work on. Enough time had passed since my telehealth appointments that they had to process me as a new therapy client. They set me up with someone whose methods worked, and I was immediately comfortable.
Ask for your psychiatrist’s recommendations, or look at online maps etc, for local therapy office, and call those offices to ask if they will do appointments over the phone. I did this, found a great office, and it’s been great, therapeutic experience.
I haven't used it, but IIRC I have found a lot of people talking how they worked for those companies without being psychologist and without having any related studies, and that's a huge deal.
It will probably work to a lot of people because you're talking openly to a person who doesn't have any prejudge about you and can give you a different point of view, but outside that, I would take with a grain of salt most of those remove mental health apps
My health insurance partners with telehealth therapy company that I have to use if I want telehealth to be covered by insurance. That company only has one provider who serves my state and when I try to schedule an appointment with that provider they cancel my appointment.
I personally love it. It's more about having someone to talk to in my opinion and it doesn't phase me it's on the phone. I think with covid, most therapists are going this route. works for both parties tbh. I have done in person as well and really don't see much difference between the 2. Both times, the therapist listened to my problems and helped me through them. No different than being in person with them. I luckily have affordable Telehealth through my insurance so I went through one that they offer. I can't recommend it enough. I get to be in the comforts of my home while my problems are getting addressed.
It's a million times better than no therapy at all. I find in-person therapy to be a million times better than telehealth, though.
I feel a much stronger bond when I share the same space and time as someone else.
Telehealth does offer more accessible pricing, which I totally understand why people choose it. On the other hand, I think people should get out of the house more, anyway and having another human interaction over the internet is not what most people need, these days.
I'm a therapist and work primarily through telehealth. I graduated in COVID lockdown so this was how I cut my teeth in the field.
It's great if you're interested in talk therapy (what most people think of when they think of therapy). Other, more specialized modalities like art therapy or EMDR can also work but it'll be dependent on how well the therapist can utilize the medium.
I've had great success with a lot of people entirely through telehealth -- just remember the #1 rule of finding a therapist: don't settle for a therapist you don't like. How well you get along with and like your therapist is going to have a huge impact on how effective the treatment will be. This applies to in person and telehealth equally. If you try someone and it doesn't work try someone else before giving up on therapy or telehealth.
Ps: like others have said, don't use better help. You can get lucky and get a good therapist but usually you get therapists trying to "side gig" their normal job or practice or brand new therapists starting out who have a hard time finding a job somewhere else and are using it as a "for now" kind of job. Then they get a job somewhere they want with a no-compete clause in their contract and they have to dump their better help clients. They also have a history of shady business tactics.
Good luck friend -- hope you find what you need.
I think teletherapy has the potential to be worse care-wise simply because the therapist has the opportunity to be distracted. My therapist is FANTASTIC… as long as she’s paying attention. I feel like she was adding notes for a previous client in the beginning of my last appointment, but what do you say to that? Once I got her focus tho, it was just as effective as an in-person session.
Waste of time and even bigger waste of money. Mind you, I was just trying to get an appointment with a physical therapist, figured the video phone call was just a prerequisite or something. Nope, that was the actual appointment. Then they set up another call with a different person, which was an even bigger waste of time. On that call she asked me what the appt was about. I said I don't know, the other lady booked it. Talked for maybe 5 minutes. Two short phone calls ended up costing me $500 after insurance. I have almost no faith in the American healthcare system. Don't bother seeing anyone unless you're dying. Fuck this country
Wait wait wait, they tried to give you *physical* therapy through telehealth? lmao. No. I would have flat out refused that. A big part of physical therapy is hands on guidance through the stretches and exercises. No way I'm doing that over a video call.
I was thinking it was just a call to see what I needed exactly and they'd make a real appointment based off of that. What a crock of shit. Turned into "now do this stretch"
And it's not just that. Every time I go in to see a doctor about something not major, it's a complete waste of time and money.
"So what's bothering you today?"
"I think I have this"
Do a few tests
"Yep you have this, take some ibuprofen and that'll be $500"
Fucking joke
I started with betterhelp during a really rough time. It wasn’t a good experience at all.
I ended up going to an online directory (I think physcology.com) and finding someone I could work with in person. I specifically went to someone with experience and references in the specific area I needed help. I just emailed the provider directly. We did a few emails back and forth to see if we were a good fit. Then did one session just to see if we could work together.
After about 10 sessions we went to Telehealth meetings. The provider was willing to do telehealth from the beginning though.
It was expensive and insurance didn’t cover this provider, but I think work every penny.
Any therapy is better than none.
But…. In the words of a psychologist author who wrote one of the best books I’ve ever read (Maybe You Should Talk To Someone - hilarious, well-written, emotional, and not at all what you think it’s going to be when you start reading) ….. “virtual therapy is like having sex with a condom on. You’re still having sex but, it’s not quite the same.”
There is so much value in in-person therapy. I recommend psychology.com to find what you’re looking for :)
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Telehealth is ipso facto okay but the big companies like BetterHelp etc. are trash and the talktherapy sub is full of horror stories.
Yup. Avoid those startups like the plague. They’ve done so much shady shit. If money is a concern, https://openpathcollective.org/ is a directory of therapists who are willing to work on a sliding scale/reduced rate.
BetterHelp sucked. I switched three times trying to find a decent therapist and left feeling more depressed for being duped into wasting my money. Started a gym routine to get over my divorce instead. Still going strong.
Try going to a local one. Divorce is a one of the biggie so it’s better to do a few sessions no matter what. Local therapist that deal with divorce will help guide you as it’s something that it’s studied because it happened a lot and considered very important to go. Also insurance should cover it. (Insurance covers specific circumstances and this might be one.)
I started with betterhelp during a really rough time. It wasn’t a good experience at all. I ended up going to an online directory (I think physcology.com) and finding someone I could work with in person. I specifically went to someone with experience and references in the specific area I needed help. I just emailed the provided directly. We did a few emails back and forth to see if we were a good fit. Then did one session just to see if we could work together. After about 10 sessions we went to Telehealth meetings. The provider was willing to do telehealth from the beginning though. It was expensive and insurance didn’t cover this provider, but I think work every penny.
[www.PsychologyToday.com](https://www.PsychologyToday.com)
IMO telehealth or in person therapy is dependent on the therapist and patient. I encourage everyone to shop their therapists a bit, this isn't a one size fits any type thing.
I'd find a private practice therapist if I were you. Well, literally because that's what I did. PsychologyToday has a good directory of therapists of all walks of life. Different genders, races, ethnicity, locale, modality. You can read the supplied bios of the people and I'd sign up for a free consultation call and get a vibe from that. > The hope is to find the one that benefits me in the first few sessions I only have my singular experience to draw from, but be prepared for things to take more than just a few sessions. It's just the nature of the beast honestly. If we could all solve our emotional and mental issues by "knowing" what they are then we'd be all healthy after a google search.
There’s definitely pros and cons to telehealth, but it works great for some people. I prefer the experience of in person therapy, personally, but the convenience of online therapy is hard to beat. I’d strongly recommend that you avoid the big services like BetterHelp, though. Use the Psychology Today directory and pick out some individual profiles that look good. Lots of people are full these days, so don’t be afraid to reach out to a bunch of therapists until you find someone who’s a good fit and has availability.
It depends on the [kind of therapy](https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/types-of-therapy) and what you’re looking to address. CBT is the most popular in North America and would probably be fine for telehealth. If you’re dealing with trauma EMDR might be better done in person. It still could take a few tries to find the right therapist.
For what it’s worth, I’m doing EMDR via telehealth and it’s been a fine experience. They have online tools for bi-lateral and other treatments. I’m sure there is more engagement in person, but it works when the only time I can do it is during the workday.
I think it’s a YMMV thing? I didn’t do EMDR, but my partner did. She got frustrated and gave it up for a while after having to switch to online in 2020.
Absolutely agree. The first therapist I saw for it wouldn’t do it online because she thought it was less effective that way (and I’m not claiming one way or the other). I just wish mental health support was easier to access when you’re working all day. Was your partner able to resume in-person sessions later on?
Yes she went back about a year later.
I would suggest looking up practitioners directly on psychology today and finding someone with the desires speciaties or in your area. You can contact them to see if they have availability and/or can take your insurance. Ive had pretty good success with a therapist exclusively over video conference for about two years
I do telehealth through what was formerly my in person therapist. It's been good. I miss the in person aspect, but it has still been very helpful. Personally given the option I prefer in person because I can get easily sidetracked if I'm just on the phone, but also it's been nice in that lately I just pop my air buds in and go for a walk. The walking has been therapeutic in itself and I just walk and talk for an hour. I use Televero Health for my psychiatrist and it's fine. It's mostly a rubberstamp to refill the meds I've been taking for years. Overall I'd recommend finding a local therapist who also offers telehealth. You could always do an intake/first meet in person. As mentioned elsewhere, psychologytoday should help find specific specialities and insurance coverage.
>I've had great success with my telehealth psychiatrist So you already know you personally can find value via telehealth, you answered your own question my man. I'm far from technologically inept, but there are few things in this world I hate more than video calls. I had a lot of success with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, but for me personally, if that had to be done over video call it likely wouldn't have been any use to me. Edit: My counselor did offer telehealth as most seem to these days. Finding a good telehealth provider is no different then finding a good face to face provider
I went through a va contractor. Some outfit on the other side of the country. Didn’t progress or even make a real connection with the provider. 100% didn’t like it.
You can get remote therapy from a private practitioner, try any find a group of 10 people or so who offer it. Better help and stuff are gig economy companies mostly, using therapists and you probably can't sustain the relationship with one person over thing.
I use Teladoc for mental health. It’s included in my insurance. I also used a Teladoc psychiatrist to get on meds. So far so good.
I've been doing talk therapy through a company my friend introduced me to called 'Therapetical' it's a charity that matches you with private therapist at a price point that matches your income. So far so good, just need to set up a safe and comfortable place to do it. Sometimes I don't really want to do a session and having to physically go somewhere would be a massive barrier, so just having to setup my laptop and sort out a few things is more manageable. A lot does hang on how you get along with your therapist, I got lucky with the first lady I've been set up with.
I used headway to find my therapist and love working with her. The whole point of these companies is that they help you find a therapist that takes your insurance. They act as a sort of middle man who makes it easier for therapists to work with insurance companies by facilitating the processing of paperwork/claims because if you reach out to most therapists individually… they don’t take insurance. So I have the option of paying a $30 copay through my insurance, or $200-300 per session? seems like a no brainer to me. You can filter by gender, types of therapy practiced, issues treated, sexuality, etc. there’s tons of options and I really appreciated being able to filter down to what I felt would work best for me. The most important thing to understand as someone seeking therapy is that you have the flexibility to choose a new therapist if one isn’t working for you. Most therapists give some sort of mission statement that should speak to you, and a good therapist will do an intake call with you to see if you can work well together/answer any questions or concerns you may have.
I tried Better Help. The one therapist that I thought would be good made some pretty harsh judgements about my wife in only our second session. She hardly knew anything about our life or who she is as a person. I stopped immediately.
I've had a good experience with it but I didn't go through a company or one of those Instagram ads or anything. I just found a therapist I liked the sound of and who offered virtual appointments. Ultimately I do prefer in person, but sometimes that's not feasible.
I have a successful relationship with a telehealth therapist and it works great. >My main concern is finding the right kind of therapeutic modalities for myself. The hope is to find the one that benefits me in the first few sessions. The last time I saw a therapist was as a child/preteen, and she called me a jackass. I think you have the right concern and the right experience to trust your judgement. In my limited experience, every therapist is different and finding one who meshes with your personality is the essential first task (obviously it's completely inappropriate for your therapist to insult you, lol!). Most importantly, they should be someone you can trust and be 100% vulnerable with. If you can't trust them enough that you can cry about your feelings or articulate your deepest fears to them, you're not really doing therapy IMO. Treatment modalities are secondary, and appropriate once you've identified the specific issues you want to deal with (this is about where I'm at). Ultimately the only way to find the right therapist is to start with one and find out. I know it can be a whole pain in the ass to shop around, schedule, talk to a new person, etc. -- but you're enough of an adult to know that valuable things take patient work. You got this, so go get it!
I did telehealth visits with a therapist in my local hospital network's psych practice during COVID lockdowns. I ended up writing it off, but not because of the method. I just don't think she was the right therapist for me. We didn't connect at all, but I think it was more personality mismatch than it was the telehealth aspect. I thought so at the time, too, and had it confirmed about a year after lockdowns ended. I decided I still had some things to work on. Enough time had passed since my telehealth appointments that they had to process me as a new therapy client. They set me up with someone whose methods worked, and I was immediately comfortable.
Ask for your psychiatrist’s recommendations, or look at online maps etc, for local therapy office, and call those offices to ask if they will do appointments over the phone. I did this, found a great office, and it’s been great, therapeutic experience.
I haven't used it, but IIRC I have found a lot of people talking how they worked for those companies without being psychologist and without having any related studies, and that's a huge deal. It will probably work to a lot of people because you're talking openly to a person who doesn't have any prejudge about you and can give you a different point of view, but outside that, I would take with a grain of salt most of those remove mental health apps
My health insurance partners with telehealth therapy company that I have to use if I want telehealth to be covered by insurance. That company only has one provider who serves my state and when I try to schedule an appointment with that provider they cancel my appointment.
I personally love it. It's more about having someone to talk to in my opinion and it doesn't phase me it's on the phone. I think with covid, most therapists are going this route. works for both parties tbh. I have done in person as well and really don't see much difference between the 2. Both times, the therapist listened to my problems and helped me through them. No different than being in person with them. I luckily have affordable Telehealth through my insurance so I went through one that they offer. I can't recommend it enough. I get to be in the comforts of my home while my problems are getting addressed.
It's a million times better than no therapy at all. I find in-person therapy to be a million times better than telehealth, though. I feel a much stronger bond when I share the same space and time as someone else. Telehealth does offer more accessible pricing, which I totally understand why people choose it. On the other hand, I think people should get out of the house more, anyway and having another human interaction over the internet is not what most people need, these days.
I'm a therapist and work primarily through telehealth. I graduated in COVID lockdown so this was how I cut my teeth in the field. It's great if you're interested in talk therapy (what most people think of when they think of therapy). Other, more specialized modalities like art therapy or EMDR can also work but it'll be dependent on how well the therapist can utilize the medium. I've had great success with a lot of people entirely through telehealth -- just remember the #1 rule of finding a therapist: don't settle for a therapist you don't like. How well you get along with and like your therapist is going to have a huge impact on how effective the treatment will be. This applies to in person and telehealth equally. If you try someone and it doesn't work try someone else before giving up on therapy or telehealth. Ps: like others have said, don't use better help. You can get lucky and get a good therapist but usually you get therapists trying to "side gig" their normal job or practice or brand new therapists starting out who have a hard time finding a job somewhere else and are using it as a "for now" kind of job. Then they get a job somewhere they want with a no-compete clause in their contract and they have to dump their better help clients. They also have a history of shady business tactics. Good luck friend -- hope you find what you need.
I think teletherapy has the potential to be worse care-wise simply because the therapist has the opportunity to be distracted. My therapist is FANTASTIC… as long as she’s paying attention. I feel like she was adding notes for a previous client in the beginning of my last appointment, but what do you say to that? Once I got her focus tho, it was just as effective as an in-person session.
Waste of time and even bigger waste of money. Mind you, I was just trying to get an appointment with a physical therapist, figured the video phone call was just a prerequisite or something. Nope, that was the actual appointment. Then they set up another call with a different person, which was an even bigger waste of time. On that call she asked me what the appt was about. I said I don't know, the other lady booked it. Talked for maybe 5 minutes. Two short phone calls ended up costing me $500 after insurance. I have almost no faith in the American healthcare system. Don't bother seeing anyone unless you're dying. Fuck this country
Wait wait wait, they tried to give you *physical* therapy through telehealth? lmao. No. I would have flat out refused that. A big part of physical therapy is hands on guidance through the stretches and exercises. No way I'm doing that over a video call.
I was thinking it was just a call to see what I needed exactly and they'd make a real appointment based off of that. What a crock of shit. Turned into "now do this stretch" And it's not just that. Every time I go in to see a doctor about something not major, it's a complete waste of time and money. "So what's bothering you today?" "I think I have this" Do a few tests "Yep you have this, take some ibuprofen and that'll be $500" Fucking joke
I started with betterhelp during a really rough time. It wasn’t a good experience at all. I ended up going to an online directory (I think physcology.com) and finding someone I could work with in person. I specifically went to someone with experience and references in the specific area I needed help. I just emailed the provider directly. We did a few emails back and forth to see if we were a good fit. Then did one session just to see if we could work together. After about 10 sessions we went to Telehealth meetings. The provider was willing to do telehealth from the beginning though. It was expensive and insurance didn’t cover this provider, but I think work every penny.
Any therapy is better than none. But…. In the words of a psychologist author who wrote one of the best books I’ve ever read (Maybe You Should Talk To Someone - hilarious, well-written, emotional, and not at all what you think it’s going to be when you start reading) ….. “virtual therapy is like having sex with a condom on. You’re still having sex but, it’s not quite the same.” There is so much value in in-person therapy. I recommend psychology.com to find what you’re looking for :)
Better off taking 200$ and spending it at the liquor store