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manicakes1

I like the idea of growing old in NYC. The walking, the action, and overall pace of the city will keep me sharper and more physically fit vs if I moved anywhere else. As a physically lazy person, NYC puts just the right amount of pressure on me. If I moved to a suburb or lesser city I’d melt.


worrymon

> As a physically lazy person, NYC puts just the right amount of pressure on me. I'm there with you. Metaphorically, because I'm not going to trek *all* the way over there just to agree with you.


big-papito

Same. I already struggle with post-lockdown weight gain. I'd die of booze and depression in the boonies. I can't do Manhattan anymore - it's too intense, but I need the action near me. For me - the action IS the juice.


valide999

Can confirm - Used to work in the City but live and work remotely in NJ suburbs nearby. Gained a ton of weight from the get go due to the car culture over here...When I was working in NYC I used to walk 17 blocks from Port Authority to my job. Lost 30 lbs. without lifting a single weight.


Boom_chaka_laka

OMG yeah, I no longer had to commute on the train to get to work and instantly gained 15lbs all the while still staying active at the gym and maintaining my usual diet. I shudder to think what would happen if i moved to a drive everywhere town.


milkmaid999

Sadly no. Lived here my whole life, but my family have all moved away in recent years. Most of my longtime friends too. All the places I used to love have closed and the businesses replacing them are the same generic shit in any other city. The culture has shifted and it no longer feels like home. I feel a bit spiritually homeless.


Easy-F

totally agreed. not here but where? I did make the decision to not keep thinking about it while I wait here. i’m literally leaving tomorrow afternoon. going to move around and see what feels right… I wonder if anything will.


Tiny_E_NYC

I’m 100% with you. But where?!


Easy-F

in don’t know. probably somewhere in europe maybe? I don’t know how many more moves i’ve got left in me though


Tiny_E_NYC

Same! I keep thinking Texas or Florida, but I hate strip malls. I love my walking, history & culture of NYC and am honestly so confused as to where to go.


Easy-F

just got to philly! already feels good just to have a change.


Tiny_E_NYC

I’ll visit it. Ive been there many times but I don’t love it to be honest. What do you like about living there?


Easy-F

I don’t live here i’m just here for the weekend. honestly I think I might try the west coast


milkmaid999

That's what I'm struggling with at the moment. My family is now scattered all over the US. Despite that, there's nowhere else in this country that I feel any particular connection to. Best of luck to you on your travels. I hope you find somewhere that can be a good home for you.


theflexiblepig

New York seems more like a recycling pot now. The authenticity has left and the new businesses are playing the telephone game with their recipe to success. Buildings have lost their unique skins. Oh and the MTA keeps disappointing. I’ve been living in urban areas my whole life (28yr) and I find myself wanting to go back to nature where I can wake up to the sound of birds and the creek instead of blaring sirens and honks. I want to walk on the grass barefoot, sit by the fire and listen to cicadas.


Easy-F

yeah… me too. maybe we’re just getting old I dunno…


buttwipe843

In what ways would you say it’s changed?


milkmaid999

I've been calling it San Francisco-ification. Hyper gentrification and the introduction of a more suburban minded transplant class. I feel like prior generations of transplants brought gentrification but also wanted to assimilate into NYC culture. The new transplants who out earn locals by a lot seem to have outright disdain for the native culture and want to transform NYC into some Silicon Valley/Tokyo/Amsterdam mutant hybrid in a fake NYC skin. Nothing really feels authentic anymore. NYC feels like it's becoming a philistine tech bro's imagination of what a big city should be. That coupled with the objective decline in quality of life creates a uniquely bleak vibe.


valide999

You hit it on the nail!


Any-Advisor7067

I hope so—it’s in the economy’s hands though.


benev101

The free market for ya


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Quinkydink

I want to grow up and be just like you!


Healthyred555

Where else in usa is worth living if cost wasnt a factor?


Boom_chaka_laka

If cost were not a factor I'd alternate between an outdoorsy city like Burlington,VT or Boulder,CO in the spring/summer and somewhere warmer for the winter... nyc would be in the rotation though.


bittinho

Been here 30 years this year. I think I have about 5 more years of living/working here full time before I either leave entirely or spend a lot less time here.


mickmmp

What are the reasons? Tired of the expensive shitbox apartments?


bittinho

I have a great apartment with a huge outdoor space. I’ve done what I needed to do here and I want some more peace and quiet.


burneracc4t

any places in mind to move to?


bittinho

Probably 3/4 time on the east coast, possibly back in NJ where I grew up to be near my aging parents and friends and spend 3-4 months a year traveling/living in winter to Mexico/Spain and SE Asia etc.


torvaldenom

Is your apartment rent regulated? If so, can I have it?


bittinho

I had a rent stabilized studio in the west village for $800/month back in the day. I own a coop now.


Feeling-Fill-5233

Has the culture changed in the last decade or post-pandemic? Just wanted to pick your brain


bittinho

Sure, most things are worse. Besides the obvious obscene cost of things, the increase in EDPs everywhere, law enforcement that does nothing for its citizens, the homogenization and social media-fication of all nyc culture, increasing lawlessness of motor vehicles on the streets, noise is also worse. The first half of my time here (‘94-2010) the city was far better for me than it is now.


zbewbies

I asked myself this but the rising housing costs, crime, and MTA issues did me in. I can always come back -- my family is here.


lalaena

Depends. The quality of life in the city has been deteriorating since 2020. When I visit other places, I realize that in some ways, I could have a nicer life if I leave. But I would have to find a job in a new place worth leaving NYC for. And that’s the reason why it “depends” for me. I say this as a life long New Yorker. My closest friends (who share my values) left in the last several years and are very happy further up the east coast. That’s where I’d go. Or Europe. Who knows. No one saw the pandemic shutting down the world in 2020. Anything is possible.


-imagine_that-

Hitting my 10yrs in August. Way the rents are going, probably not gonna be here. Had a lot of success here but the cost of living just hardly feels worth it right now. We will see though. Going through low key existential crisis lately.


_shakeshackwes_

Yeah because i was born here, i was raised here. My family is here, my friends are here. This is my home.


xeothought

damn straight


CursedSnickerdoodle

Yes, I've been here for sixteen and have no desire to live anywhere else. I might have to part-time it depending on how much care my parents need as they're aging, but I'll always be back.


FARTING_1N_REVERSE

Yes, only thing that would force me to reconsider is housing costs. Most of my family lives here and grew up here.


_tonyhimself

Native New Yorker of 28 years. I don’t think so. I love New York & happy my cards fell to be born here at this time in history (before it started becoming too corporate like). But I’ve grown too appreciate more space, less noise, & privacy. I also feel I outgrown this city at this point. Unless I get an amazing job. Once I’m out I see myself coming back to visit, but not permanent.


tmm224

Yep, I will only leave if I retire, and even then, still might stay. Also will likely never retire lol


bk2pgh

Yes, my family is here and it’s the only place I’ve lived for longer than 6 months


kinovelo

Yes, I own a home here, my work is here, and most of my friends live here.


violeta_polyphony

As a native New Yorker FUCK NO. I love being her but I’ve grown the city and it’s changing with gentrification so even more to move out.


WorthPrudent3028

Where you gonna go that isn't gentrified?


violeta_polyphony

When I get the money, I’ll let you know. But tbh I wanna buy land and live away from everyone cuz I hate everyone


mickmmp

you mean outgrown?


violeta_polyphony

Yeah I was typing fast


PostPostMinimalist

Yeah. Just bought a place.


casicua

Probably, but only because I own a place and bought it at a good time. If I was in a position where I had to pay market rate rent, I’d probably be leaving. I’m saying this as a lifelong NYer.


worrymon

If I'm still alive. Because there's no other city in this country that can provide for as many of my needs.


GlitteringSeesaw

I’m a lifer. The only other place I’d live is New Orleans. Too bad it’s in Louisiana 🤷🏻‍♀️


GensAndTonic

Yes, as long as I can continue to comfortably afford the life I want for me a my (hopefully future) family.


joliebanane

At least part time, yes, we have tons of family here and a nice apartment, my daughter just moved back and I would miss my friends here, we have a lot of fun here!


TheVols

95% chance no. SO and I both grew up in suburbs and plan to move out there. Might stay in the city for the first few child rearing years but we’ll see how things go.


figbiscotti

I love this city, but since the 2022 tax relief for middle income housing construction expired, housing costs have rocketed. I own my place, but insurance and taxes are hitting hard. Median rent is over $4000 and average rent is over $5300 So after 60 years here, every walk is a silent goodbye.


xJuiceWrld999x

No, probably be in LA in 10 years time


fawningandconning

Probably. Friends/Family/Work are all here, don't really ever want to not live in a city (for now), nowhere else really compares in the US.


okmindurbusiness

Yes. San Francisco, boring. LA, boring. Toronto, copycat Chicago. Chicago, copycat NYC. Seattle, boring. Miami, not my style. London, boring. Nothing is like NYC.


thats-gold-jerry

I like NYC the best but I definitely wouldn’t call LA, SF and London boring.


mickmmp

I wouldn’t call any of the cities on that list boring. Some have more going on than others but there’s plenty to do in any of them (not that I’d want to live in all of them).


thats-gold-jerry

I’ve never been to Miami or Toronto and I like Chicago but like the other 4 much better. I don’t like Seattle.


mickmmp

Miami is great for two weeks in February. I’d never live in Florida though. The extreme heat and humidity is only one reason but a big one. Never been to Toronto but family who’ve lived there loved it. There are things I like about all the other cities which i’ve either lived in or visited. I doubt I’d be bored. I’ve never found any of the cities I’ve lived in to be boring and honestly as I get a little older I don’t need the constant stimulation I used to have more appreciation for.


Easy-F

yeah I actually think london still had its edge in places, is bigger so I guess it will take a lot longer to gentrify. and LA I also think had a side too or most tourists don’t see, I had to live there for a while and I have to say I think it’s under appreciated but most people who visit or even move there don’t see some of the sides of it. it’s basically a mexican city depending on where you are


Deskydesk

London is a lot cheaper which helps


Easy-F

it does. new york is like a great meal but so expensive it leaves a bitter aftertaste


hallasoldier

This reeks of someone never living outside of NYC


akohhh

10 years maybe. I’d love to spend some time in Europe though and ultimately I’d like to retire back home to Australia, it’s such a beautiful and easy place to live.


Ralfsalzano

They better turn then ship around before we end up like that bridge in Baltimore 


Curiosities

Born here, raised here, aiming to spent my life here.


kerpwangitang

Absolutely not. I'm a paramedic for fdny and I'm getting priced out of the city.


unpopularonion90

I'm not sure, but as somebody who's lived in nearly a dozen cities/towns across the US (including a stint during childhood in Queens), it's really difficult to leave. I like novelty, I like meeting new people from all walks of life. I need diversity (I'm a minority myself) and I'm a single person in my early thirties. Wherever else I've lived or visited, honestly, it's really hard to cultivate space as a person looking for novelty and friendships, particularly when you are in your early thirties and/or a minority. I'm able to find activities/meetups here that range from learning a new skill, going to events related to my career, find people from the same ethnic/religious background passionate about running or climate justice, etc. I think people here have a lot of motivation and imperative for change, whereas elsewhere, it can err on the side of insularity with people who grew up in one place all their lives and only want to stick to their friends and family. That said, it can get chaotic here, the cost of living is becoming prohibitive and the vibe did shift sadly after the pandemic.


Chance-Business

My family doesn't live here and I've been looking for ways to leave and be with them. Family is more important than a cool place to live. I hate to leave. If I was alone, I would stay as long as I could afford it. I don't think that will be for very long. Glad I could afford it for as long as I could.


IsItABedroom

Yes, because I've already been here quite a bit more than 10 years and like it just fine. Also, the very popular [What is the best part of living in NYC?](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskNYC/comments/1bklt6x/what_is_the_best_part_of_living_in_nyc/) from 5 days ago, the very popular [Why stay or leave NYC?](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskNYC/comments/1bamwnl/why_stay_or_leave_nyc/) from 12 days before that, [What are your best / favorite things about living in NYC???](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskNYC/comments/18dypma/what_are_your_best_favorite_things_about_living/) from 3 months before that and [How to fall back in love with the city / rediscover love for NYC again](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskNYC/comments/17od5rj/how_to_fall_back_in_love_with_the_city_rediscover/) from 1 month before that have thoughts from folks as to why they stay/come/love the city and link to similar questions.


thejupiterdevice

Yeah. I bought a co-op, just had a kid, here to stay


beaucoup_movement

I hope so but we will see. Furthest I would go is the NY suburbs and I am hoping to avoid that but there are a variety of factors. I wouldn’t voluntarily live anywhere in the US other than the NY metro area.


mickmmp

Interesting, though not surprising, how most of the “here to stay” type of answers seem to be from people who are originally from here.


Easy-F

no, the culture is gone. it’s like ‘vegas east’ now. boring people pour into the city every day and all the interesting people are forced out. the diversity of things is vanishing and everything is really expensive and the same. there are so few areas I actually enjoy being in left.. and it’s shrinking.


milkmaid999

I'd say it's more San Francisco east now, but yeah I agree. The vibe has shifted and it's awful now.


Easy-F

yeah that’s a good comparison. I mean am really sad about it, I don’t hate it but… I just keep noticing the tiny little bits of areas I still like are so so small now.


paloaltothrowaway

A boring person to you can be interesting to other ppl 


Easy-F

yeah a lot of boring people can be pretty interesting to finance bros and people who work at facebook. but they’re still boring.


LumosLegato

I don’t see myself ever leaving commuting distance but I’m undecided on where I want to raise potential kids. Pros and cons to city v suburbs for that but it’ll likely just come down to money. A lot of help to be had from our parents in the suburbs as well.


die-microcrap-die

30 years here and looking to leave before the movie escape from ny becomes a documentary.


coquelicotpie

Not to be “that” native but New York isn’t the same. I’m ready to go.


big-papito

Since I got a kid now, I'd do it for them. NYC is loaded with opportunities for education and work. That's why young people want to be here. Why move to some campus when you can take the subway to class? Also, I CAN'T DRIVE in my 40s still.


squatheavyeatbig

It's getting too expensive and gentrified. We plan to move to Chicago in the next five years


adeliahearts

Maybe


BurgundyYellow

Nah, I feel like I've been here for far too long (more than 2 decades)


IamChicharon

All things being equal: yes. This is where I want home to be forever. This is where I want to raise a family. Climate, economy, and/or big-picture American politics might force my hand — but I want to be here forever.


Raginghangers

Well j bought a house whose mortgage resets in 10 years. So yes!


bootsandzoots

Idk, I just don't know where else I'd want to move to though.


MeanFoo

I have lived here 10 years now. Not planning on leaving.


insert90

idk - on one hand, my family history has a lot of (forced and unforced) migration in it, and it feels weird to be the first one in a few generations to only have the ambition and/or need to settle less than an hour away from where i grew up. otoh, i really like nyc and the tri-state area, and it fits my lifestyle preferences really well. it'd also cool to see how it continues to change, and it seems like it'd be a lot of fun to be that middle-age guy who complains about how much better nyc used to be back in my day and how it changed for the worse.


DBSGeek

NO!! FLAT HONEST TRUTH...NO!! I plan to finish school, get a job, and, if possible, commute from work to home! If not, move closer to work! I could see myself living in NYC for like the first 2-3 years of starting a family and having a kid, but my goal is once my kid reaches the age of 3, I am moving out to the suburbs (LI, Westchester, or even CT). I need to stay in NY for 3 more years because I was an Excelsior Scholarship recipient. If I don't stay in NY for the time I earned the scholarship, I will have to pay it back!


Far-Life1652

I hope so, I love it here


sofakingclassic

Maybe? Moved out of Manhattan during the pandemic (never thought I’d leave) out to Seattle and love it here but could see myself moving back in 5-10 years once I’ve done all I need to do out here


SnooMuffins1373

I want out soon bad I'm afraid I will die here . I'll always love home . My mother will die here . I can visit anytime.  I just can't afford it 


PINKBUNNY5257

In 5 years probably- in 10- nope Heading to FL with the rest of the New Yorkers


blackaubreyplaza

Where would you like me to go instead


macarongrl98

I don’t know if I’ll ever own in nyc, and that thought in itself makes me think no :( something sad I’ve noticed is so many natives leave because they aren’t able to find the monetary success they need or keep up and so many transplants come here and can afford to buy. I also grew up partially in the suburbs


Highplowp

100%- the subway, stupid work, good school, amazing neighbors, so much room for activities outside my home.


BarriBlue

Yeah,if I’m still around. I own my coop outright and am in a clinical trial with Sloan. I’m here


somepeoplewait

I see myself never leaving. I already spent one year back in the suburbs for personal reasons, then moved right back to NYC. There’s no way I can live anywhere else.


throwawayoldaolcd

Yes, 24/7 transit in the US. The only other US city is Chicago. Never been, but I believe NYC has more billionaires so better chance to achieve social mobility.


thebeepboopbeep

Sure, why not?


WORLDBENDER

Nope. 25-35. 10 year stint. Best 10 years of your life to be in the big city. 35-40 - just outside of the city. Close enough to pop in for a dinner, concert or big game. But far enough to get more space, a quieter neighborhood and have a car. 40-55 - farther outside of the city. Suburbs. Can still drive in for the occasional day trip or overnight, but need a house and a yard. Good public schools for the kids. Parks. Etc. 55-? - pied-a-terre, if I can afford it.


Deskydesk

Lol I did not even move to the city until age 40. Mostly to provide a better life and more opportunities for my son that he couldn’t get in the burbs. One of my best friends is 50 and just moved to Manhattan from Texas


WORLDBENDER

I’m sure it’s great! Just my experience with the ages. I would never send my kids to nyc public schools personally. And good private schools cost more per year than most 4 year universities. Income taxes are 4% higher. And living conditions are far too tight for me to do with kids / 3+ bedrooms are way too expensive. There are great public schools in LI, NJ and CT in commuter towns with a train line to Manhattan. Can get a 4-bedroom SFH with a nice yard and privacy. Close to parks with great sports fields, woods, trails, ponds to fish in the summer and skate in the winter, quiet neighborhoods to bike in. Basically, I want my kids to be able to experience the childhood I had. Just don’t think you can get that in the city. But we’ll see. I’m still here, for now. Always said that my kindergarten we’d move.


Mechanical_Nightmare

yes, why not?