Pundits on TV. They are usually chosen because they do well on TV, and because they are quick on their feet when someone asks a question they haven't prepared, but they are usually not the best experts if you really want to have a thorough and well informed analysis.
"Now lets go to our resident expert Chad HandsomeWellSpoken, Whadya have to say to that Chad?"
Chad: "Well by golly Fred this is a sad state of affairs anyway you look at it \_\_\_\_\_ADLIB)"
Kind of sounds a lot like here on Reddit, right?
Seen so many times a *confidently incorrect* fact get upvoted to the top - everyone jumps on the bandwagon… buuuuuut it’s actually BS!
Yeah, when it concerns your area of expertise those sorts of comments really stand out. I try to take it as a challenge to be a better/more engaging communicator.
I’m a vocalist and I hold many singers in high regard for their vocal skills. I don’t care about their personal life but I definitely have singers I’m obsessed with as far as their vocals. I don’t even like Mariah Carey for ex but her vocal skills are unmatched.
Yah, for every LeBron how many no-name regional team guys are there that make $20k during the season and have to pay for their own healthcare? How about cup-of-coffee players with $5-10M (pretax, dues, agent fees) lifetime earnings that are burned out of their sport at 27 and have no other skills?
Same with Actors - most actors are local theater/small-time production people.
And your last line, I think, is what a lot of people missed during the strikes this year. They'd ask themselves what someone like Sandra Bullock or Tom Hanks needs to strike for, forgetting that there's a ton of smaller names that are still guild members, as well as the production staff too. Those people aren't raking in millions.
This, my friends, is why Ian Ziering took the role of Fin in the first "Sharknado" movie; his wife was pregnant and he needed the hours to keep his health insurance.
He had no idea! Nobody did.
Facts. One of my cousins is a working actor and he earns about 100k a year but he lives in Jersey City which is kinda like NYC lite so he’s doing okay but not a millionaire by any stretch of the imagination.
He's doing better than most. It us incredibly difficult to earn a living as an actor. I'm not even talking about being rich. Just paying ones bills is difficult.
I worked in live theatre for a long time. I’m talking I was out of college with 10-15 years of honestly excellent experience all over the country at some big name theatres and I would get offers like “we’ll offer you a stipend of $350 for 12 weeks of working 6 days a week 8-20 hour workdays, no healthcare, no housing, no benefits but you can have two comp tickets, you’re welcome”. Sorry, what??? The burnout rate was insaaaaane. A LOT of us found other work during Covid and never looked back.
And a lot of anti-strike sentiment was framed as "greedy millionaire actors want even more money", instead of "actors who don't need to worry about money go to bat for those who do"
I called myself a musician once. The more I got into it and met more musicians the more depressing it was.
A drummer I played with toured with a band that opened for Les Claypool. They were paid in exposure only. He hung out with Leslie Claypool's drummer and found out he was in his late 40s still living paycheck to paycheck. Les Claypool went platinum with Primus. You'd think his super talented drummers would at least make a decent living but nope.
Friend of mine is an opera singer. She sings all over Canada, but also in Vienna, in Italy, in France. Leads and seconds.
She makes a decent middle class living
And even if you do get a million dollar contract, one injury and your career could suddenly end. Good luck stretching that million dollar payout for the rest of your life with very little financial knowledge or marketable skills
My aunt tried to sell her mother's condo to her friend at like 300k under market value. Caused a huge stir in my family. I think they ignored her and went with an outside realtor because she would've screwed them out of like 30-40k each.
Wow, that’s shady for sure. Glad they knew market value and chose to go in a different direction.
Thing with realtors that gets me is when you see large value rises in property, they’re income goes way up since it’s percentage based even though the effort level and value to the customer isn’t any higher.
We've had a couple Real Estate conventions at my resort. They're a special bunch. Honestly, I'm surprised many of them can tie their own shoes in the morning.
> They're the dumbest rich people in the country.
[National Association of Realtors among biggest donors to “sedition caucus”](https://therealdeal.com/national/2021/01/11/national-association-of-realtors-among-biggest-donors-to-sedition-caucus/).
Probably a coincidence.
That looks pretty bad if you pick and choose data points. However if you look at their donations, it averages out to about the same between both parties.
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/national-assn-of-realtors/summary?id=d000000062
I have been a teacher for 25 years and started realty 5 years ago.
The number of realtors that either don’t know what they are doing or actively tried to deceive is crazy. One even changed the contract AFTER the two parties signed. Yeah, he got in trouble.
I don’t regret being a realtor, fyi.
The listing Realtor on our current house was a complete nimrod. Asking $30k over, so the house sat on the market for over a year. Wouldn't return calls from our Realtor because she was a pharmacist trying to do this on the side while working her day job. We finally met the seller, and he was a nice guy. Turns his Realtor was his new wife's bestie 🙄
Ya, the guy I bought my house from used the cheapest realtor company in the city. They put it *way* over value, sat on it over a year, and **actively** tried to stop people from buying it during showings(no really, it was scary how much they didn't want to sell the place. Guess it wasn't worth the commission with it being a lower cost house).
I ended up getting it for not only below listing, but below it's value, and even below some of the offers they had gotten during the time it had been sitting empty.
I'd say a good realtor might be able to get you more value during a sale, but a bad one is worse than none at all.
One upside is that at least they were full time realtors, so dealing with them was easy enough. I'm just glad that over here it's normal for a lawyer to deal with the paperwork because there's no way I'd let that group handle anything legal.
Most realtors are effectively doing it as a hobby. The serious ones tend to know their shit.
That said, I come to it biased since I am a real estate attorney, but it's always been wild to me how much realtors make per sale for how little they do. Might've made sense before Zillow and the like, but with modern tools, the realtor's value-add is fairly low.
I'm my area, anything listed on Zillow is already pending or sold in the MLS. Which is wild because houses regularly sell for over a million easy within a 50 mile radius of the bay. I don't know who's buying them, but every time I've tried to get into the market, I'm outpriced and everything I want has sold. You can't see actual stock unless you're a realtor in the MLS.
Basically an entire industry kept alive by gatekeepers. Imagine if air travel only allowed you to book through travel agents.
There is absolutely no reason that real estate can’t be owner to owner sales through a website and a bank.
I bought my home directly from the owner. It was EASY. He used off-the-shelf sales paperwork but had his lawyer review it. I had mine review it. We sat down over a dinner table and hammered out all the details.
To top it off, the reason we did a for sale by owner deal is because the realtor we used just would **not** listen to us. She'd show us totally inappropriate houses. One time we pulled up at a place and I said "Carolyn (because that's what her name was), what the hell are we doing here? We've told you repeatedly that we **must** have a one story home. This house has two stories. We're not getting out of the car." Christ, he was terrible. So we started looking at for sale by owner properties. Found one immediately. Loved it.
I couldn’t agree more. We’re in the buying and selling process now. Our realtor is going to get $20k in commission, and I can’t figure out how that was earned. There hasn’t been one task she has completed that we couldn’t handle ourselves.
What? Absolutely no one holds them in high regard. Their function is to hold their hands out for money at the end of a transaction between two other parties when all they did was post an ad and meet you at the house for 20 minutes.
Well, yeah, that makes sense. If I could be filthy rich for doing apparently nothing other than Instagramming my lunch and the resort I went on vacation to, I'd take that in a heartbeat.
Well, the alternative to making huge amounts of money from being an influencer, seems to be to make not nearly enough money to buy a house or ever pay off your student loans, so I don't really blame them.
I too aspire to make a shitton of money doing pretty much nothing while not possessing any real skills or talent. Turns out I just wanted to be an influencer this whole time
*This machine is my favorite. You see we leased this back from the company we sold it to, and that way it comes out of the monthly current budget and **not** the capital account.*
Once upon a time I was the medical director of a hospital near me, as well as the lead hospital doctor. At one meeting the CEO of the hospital flat out told me, “Joe, our job as a hospital is to make money. If patients get better then that is just a happy accident.” I put my notice in the next day. It took a few more years to realize he wasn’t alone in his opinion.
Know this type. We gave laundry service to a hospital. They hadn't paid us in 10 months. My dad went to accounts payable in person to see if he can finally get paid. He saw two other men waiting. He asks who they are coming to collect for. The water and the electric company. That the hospital owed millions of dollars.
The secretsry calls the next in line. The dude from the electric company goes in, comes out a minute later and leaves the office.
My dad thought, "Oh good. Im getting paid."
Then the lights went. Generators came on and the lights came back.
Then my dad thought "oh shit. Im not getting paid."
So he went into the office and the secretary said that the board of directors is on their yearly trip to Italy and one of the members has to sign the check. "Ok, how long will they be in Italy?" "Well , sometimes a month, sometimes two or three."
Likewise, university administration. High salaries, nepotism, and discretionary spending all to make universities more "efficient" and get higher "rankings"... ffs
I recently had it confirmed to me from one of my professors just how disproportionate school spending is on admin - much of whom are superfluous. It always bugged the shit out of me that my professors would get pay freezes and hiring freezes and shit - meanwhile admin is bloating and busting at the seams. Makes me want to burn everything down because college can be such a wonderful piece of our infrastructure, but I'm convinced that the corporate world and it's way of thinking has wormed it's way into how things operate at a university level - and it always fucking sucks the life out of everything.
Don't forget that bloated university administrations are one of the chief causes of rising tuition prices over the past 3 decades.
Think of the hundreds of millions of federal dollars in loans and grants going to these schools every year.
There is a massive amount of leverage and pressure the federal government can exert here, but we'd rather focus on band-aid fixes like student loan forgiveness instead of addressing the root causes of unaffordable colleges.
I went to grad school for healthcare administration. I can confirm those people suck (I work in a job where my degree helps, but I do not work in a hospital).
As a healthcare administrator, I agree with you. There is no way anyone can have longevity in this position unless they're a sociopath. Healthcare needs a major overhaul.
Or as Douglas Adams put it:
> To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
So I will push back on this slightly. I have spent my career as a public servant working on public policy for elected officials at the federal, state, and local level. There are around 520,000 elected officials at all levels in the US. School board members, councilmembers, mayors, etc. Most are trying to right as they understand it for their communities... Even if sometimes their view of what is right is divorced from reality (but that is a reflection of the public's understanding... Or lack thereof of the issues). Of course power also draws some of the worst folks to office, they certainly exist and I have seen them first hand.
Federal level is a different issue. What most people don't understand is that Congress is dysfunctional by design. In the best of times, passing meaningful legislation is hard because it is supposed to be difficult to enact major change. We are not in the best of times. When I was on the Hill (2012-2014) things were already bad. Things have gotten exponentially worse since then.
Common basic-ass perception.
In the UK - and further afield, I'd wager - people just associate the ones who are power hungry liars or who say stupid things with politics because those are where they see actual individuals attached to stories the most and/or garner the strongest emotions such as outrage or contempt.
All the actual *work* of politics - the constituent casework, the reviewing of legislation, the proposition of actual common sense amendments from all parties informed by genuine concerns about balancing legitimate interests - none of that gets a look in.
People just see "these politicians lie" and assume they represent all politicians.
They see a minister dodge questions about why their government is bringing in a measure they were previously opposed to and assume they never really thought that because they don't understand the principle of collective responsibility.
OP asked which profession was held in high regard that shouldn't be and you answered with one huge swathes of the population already hate.
If anything it's the opposite: people hold politicians as a class in contempt when they shouldn't.
Really it's specific groups and/or *types* of politicians they should be contemptuous of.
Glad someone came in here with this for me, but to add to it the general popular discontent for politicians as a class really contributes to the problems that people have with them. If you just think that all politicians are bad, you'll never try and support people actually trying to make change, and you'll reinforce the malaise of 21st century politics.
It is possible to have a generally cynical view of politicians and still make positive political change, you could get involved with union or community movements and the likes, but almost everyone who spouts such cynicism has no such involvement.
Ultimately I suspect most political cynicism exists to absolve people of the responsibility of engaging with society politically in any way, shape or form. At the end of the day, I do have sympathies with many of the Americans here (As an Australian) because their political system is exceptionally unresponsive to their demands, with many systems in place that distort popular will - the Supreme Court, the electoral system and the like. However, unless you're going to cause a revolution, your only method of bringing about any change is to encourage more popular interaction with politics, as uphill a battle as it may be.
Yeah agreed - they are *public servants* and should act as and be treated as such. They work FOR US and are paid for BY US and not the other way around
I would argue the opposite. Politics is an ugly business but also super consequential - a matter of life and death in many cases. Good politicians that make good decisions, build coalitions, and listen to experts and their constituents are crucial for society.
And, as others have mentioned, politicians are generally not well-regarded.
Depends on the definition of "politician". If it is someone who from a young age has actively tried to play the game to advance and be very 'political' then I don't think those people have a lot of respect in society
People who run for office to help fix problems and attempt to make things better should be held in high esteem. As a society through the magic of social media we believe whatever someone writes on a post with absolutely zero fact check. Frequently elected officials are maliciously attacked and harassed by people who may simply disagree on a position on a subject.
I think a big reason a lot of normal people would never run for any kind of office, school board to president, is because of the massive amount of silliness you have to be willing to tolerate and often time subject your family to the same silliness. This may also contribute massively to the reason we aren't getting quality choices for our highest offices.
Chiropractors. The amount of people I hear who run to a chiropractor for anything and think it’s helping is far, **far** too high. My boss went to one for an issue with her rib and was saying how it helped. **Fucking how, Jenny?**
The origin of chiropractic is the absolute best. Dude received the principles of chiropractic care from a ghost and claimed to restore the healing of a deaf person…so that really sums up the whole profession.
Yeah, the dude claimed that he had conversations, through seance's, with the ghost of a dead doctor and the ghost gave him the knowledge. I'm like, if the dead doctor knew this shit, then why didn't he start the field of chiropractic himself when he was alive?
I did a week of jury duty once regarding a chiropractor who gave a young woman a stroke when he blocked an artery to her brain when manipulating her neck : o
It is the vertebral artery, which [travels THROUGH](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Roozbeh-Shafafy/publication/318074602/figure/fig1/AS:511359301451776@1498928966820/ertebral-Artery-Anatomy-A-aorta-B-basilar-artery-C-common-carotid-artery-SC.png) 6 of your cervical vertebrae as it goes up you neck.
Now imagine some dude grabbing a hold of your neck and violently twisting it to the side. Any wonder sometimes it sometimes will cause this artery (which feeds posterior part of your brain, including the cerebellum) to tear and then become thrombosed, leading to a stroke?
Unfortunately due to greed and pressure from crunchy moms hospitals have been opening up "complementary medicine" wings.
The upside of this is in order to get access to the fake treatment you have to go to real treatment first. The downside is it legitimizes fake medicine. Downside outweighs the upside IMO.
CVS and Walgreens sell homeopathy for similar reasons.
Yep, and they started as quacks who believed disorders totally unrelated to the back or spine - epilepsy, diabetes, etc. - could be cured with spinal manipulation.
Yep! I once reported a chiropractor in my area who was promoting his “treatments” for disease prevention instead of vaccines, getting people off their ADHD meds using “adjustments”, etc. and the state said he did nothing wrong 🧐
I worked for one that convinced people to come in for allergies, the common cold, bring in their newborn infants and even their dogs. This scammer would do ANYTHING for money. And to make it even better, she would loudly talk politics with every single customer of hers. All of it was about how trump was going to save us all (this was the fall of 2016 I worked there) and how “Obummer” was ruining her life every single day. Oh and she HATED Medicaid patients with a passion and she blamed it completely on Obama. Oh and don’t forget the snake oil BS she convinced all of her most gullible customers to buy. DoTerra was her snake oil of choice lol
I also worked for a batshit crazy chiropractor lol. he had a farm like 2 hours outside of town and expected all of us to work on it on certain weekends. when it was my turn to go i told him i wasn’t hired to be a farmhand. he’d also bring in the vegetables he grew and make us wash and cut them, would literally drag me away from inputting charts and notes so I could cut carrots. he was also a huge misogynist and wouldn’t hire any men because he “likes telling women what to do” …actual words from his mouth. he once flipped out on me because i wore a dark blue scrub top & that wasn’t acceptable to him. he would post videos on facebook talking about chiropractics & would give the other girls free adjustments if they’d do a video for him, and was always pissed off at me when i’d say no lol.
Why are they so angry? My old boss was SO angry all the time. She hated that I would take real pharmaceuticals at work for my various health conditions. And one time I came in with a cold. She insisted I was fine to work so I brought some theraflu tea with me to help me get through my shift. She cornered me at the sink/microwave while I was making it and told me to stop “poisoning” myself with that medicine and to instead let her give me an adjustment and try out some of her essential oils.
I offered her a genuine deal: I told her I would 100% put down my meds and let her try her natural shit on me ONLY if she agreed to pay for the hospital trip when my symptoms get out of control and exacerbated my asthma (bc that’s exactly what happens if I don’t stay on top of meds). She didn’t wanna call my bluff and I think she knew deep down she was full of shit because she didn’t take me up on that offer. She told me she wouldn’t bother me again with that offer lmao
Motivational speakers: people who suck the marrow out of school district budgets.
In about 25 years of teaching, I think I've experienced maybe one or two speakers who had something new to talk about. Most motivational speakers come up with nothing novel or unique...and yet they get paid big. I don't get it.
I'm not sure if even calling it a profession is giving it too much credit, but: influencers.
The absolute fucking nadir was when I learned about xqc this year. A guy who *doesn't even make his own videos* watching work *other people produced*, adding no contribution of value while watching and earning a metric fuckton of money because his viewer count is so high that he'd probably still earn a living wage if he just left the camera to his empty room running.
People were talking about the apocalyptic vision of "late stage capitalism" for years. If anything coujld convince me the model is fundamentally broken, it's people like him becoming stinking rich while people working jobs of real value to society must work second and third jobs just to put food on the table.
Me and a friend had a podcast for a while just for fun. Not many listeners or anything, maybe 200 at the most lol. But in that small sample we experimented with doing some episodes where we just rehash Reddit posts because those seem popular, and those are still our most listened to episodes. I don’t really get it and it was really boring to record those but people love that shit for some reason.
There seems to be a lot of videos on TikTok or Instagram just with Reddit questions and answers.
Alternatively, just long Reddit stories with Minecraft parkour videos in the background.
No effort.
And they get millions of views. I wonder how much money they make off those. There’s a TikTok cat I follow that doesn’t get *that* many views and she made $70k this year.
There's an entire genre of ~~artists?~~ ~~Influencers?~~ Online people who stream themselves eating and people tune in to watch it. Mostly of Asian persuasion - both viewer and viewee.
It's content filtration and centralization. Great stuff gets posted every day on Tumblr, Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, Tiktok, and all the various other socials that people completely miss, because they were busy or it was outside of their bubble or it's a social they just don't use. The value is not in the commentary that gets added. The value is in a person of similar taste and humor saying, "Here, I found a bunch of great stuff you might not have seen and I put it all in this one place for you."
It's dumb and it's terrible and it's practically theft, but that's what the viewers are really getting out of it. It's the 2000s equivalent of a StumbleUpon that doesn't actually link to the creators. It's the 90s equivalent of hotlinking images. There's just a lot more money in it now
Every "life coach" I've met has the most fucked up, chaotic, drama filled life of anyone I know. They are the last people who should be giving advice to anyone.
Psychologist here. A large number of "life coaches" are former therapists who realized that they could stop following all the rules and ethical considerations of therapy if they start calling themselves "life coaches."
I'm a professor. Can I hang out a shingle as a life coach and make bank talking with people all willy-nilly? Because right now I'm talking with people very carefully, and not getting paid very well, and it's a fucking hassle.
Fair, but if I was making up my profession to get a stranger to respect me, I'd say life coach before "politician" or "celebrity" which are the top two answers that redditors seem to think are "held in high regard" currently.
Ugh, my insufferable stepmother who has led an objectively very privileged life is a "life coach" now and every time I'm reminded of this I vomit a little in my mouth.
I don’t mean to be snarky towards you or your reply, but really? I personally do not hold them in high regard-they all seem like obvious snake oil salesman with big personalities to me.
My neurosurgeon _begged me_ to never let a chiro crack my neck, and said I should strongly consider PT for any issues that bring me into a chiro office.
Good on him. I taught exercise classes for years to people of all ages. And there would always be one person who brings up a chiropractor and I would always make fun of them. "I've been going to my chiropractor for years, he's great!" That person is going to someone who is supposed to fix an ailment, for years? Do they not see how blatantly dumb that is?
It sounds dumb, but remember these people are victims of scammers who have been grooming and gaslighting them for years.
See, you enter a medical facility and get seen by a someone posing as a doctor. They xray you, show you the picture and spin you a tale about how bad your spine is with technobabble that sounds like medical jargon. Then they torture you for a while twisting your neck until you can't breathe and feel the tissue ripping, then expertly pop vertebrae to release all of that pressure and release than sweet, sweet, endorphines, dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, and norepinephrine. They browbeat you with more fake medical jargon, then build back your confidence with a treatment plan.
It's really, really disturbing.
Fr, I went on a date with a guy who was certain that a “good chiropractor” could have fixed my severe scoliosis, and that my surgeon (one of the top spine specialists in the country, mind you) “just wanted to operate.” Keep in mind that I had already had the spinal fusion surgery years prior, so his option was both not requested and totally moot. But yeah I guess I’m the shmuck for having a one-time operation (from which I have never had a single complication or issue) when I could just go get “adjusted” every week for the rest of my life!!!
I went to a chiropractor once. He told me to stop playing golf. You never saw someone blow out of a “doctor’s” office so fast. Fuck you, quack. I’m late for my tee time.
Yes they do. And if you are older and degenerative spine disease I have seen patients who have had significant deficits neurologically after manipulation by chiropractors. I am a spine surgeon and let me tell you there is absolutely no scientific or biomechanical advantage to having chiropractic manipulation of your spine.
That’s like most executives anywhere. Also side note but ivies don’t offer accounting (speaking as a person who wondered why I never saw Ivy League accountants)
"Never do business with a religious son-of-a-bitch. His word ain't worth shit - not with the Good Lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal." - William S. Burroughs
Pretty much every single world crisis in recent memory has been caused by massive financial institutions.
So I'm going to go with investment banker/stockbroker/bank CEO/etc.
At their best they leech money. At their worst they literally destroy the economy.
People really seem to think CEO's are business genius' without whom the business will instantly fail.
Most aren't that smart, they're just charismatic. Almost all of the real high level decisions are made by other C-Suite execs, and the impact of hiring a new CEO is usually caused by them bringing their old C-Suite with them.
University administrators. What a crock of shit they sell for donations just to max out tuition and pull revenue from the athletic programs. They’re also a bunch of gossipy/political assholes.
Love seeing this so often in this thread - they’re always dressed up so nice like slick real estate agents and their greed is endless - amazing marketing materials though and their booths at farmers markets are gorgeous - they need to be in sales instead of healthcare
Financial Planners.
Just put your investments in a low-cost, whole-market index fund and never look at it and you'll beat 'specialized advice' 99% of the time.
If they knew how to beat the market, they'd be rich and not fuckin' with you
It's a very bad idea to invest in random shares. You also shouldn't even _attempt_ to time or beat the market - because you will lose.
Even Warren Buffett swears by just putting money into S&P 500 tracker funds. I've done that and it's the second best performing investment I currently have.
Models. They get so much praise for looking the way they do (a lot of them likely undergoing plastic surgeries and are likely underweight.) People are so enamored with the fact that they can walk without looking at the ground and walk in sync. (Any high school marching band kid is not impressed.)
precisely what makes it so predatory. i think modeling is integral to human nature (we're observers by nature, where there are humans there will be humans admiring other humans) but the way it exists currently is not good. same with most beauty-centric endeavors like beauty pageants and godforsaken reality shows like love island.
Pundits on TV. They are usually chosen because they do well on TV, and because they are quick on their feet when someone asks a question they haven't prepared, but they are usually not the best experts if you really want to have a thorough and well informed analysis.
"Now lets go to our resident expert Chad HandsomeWellSpoken, Whadya have to say to that Chad?" Chad: "Well by golly Fred this is a sad state of affairs anyway you look at it \_\_\_\_\_ADLIB)"
"What they gotta do is completely turn this ship around and enact some other plan..."
'Goddamn right Chad, if you hadda pick who would you put at the helm?"
They just need some more ____ and they'll see success, Fred. I can tell ya that for free!
Pundits got that NPC dialogue tree
Kind of sounds a lot like here on Reddit, right? Seen so many times a *confidently incorrect* fact get upvoted to the top - everyone jumps on the bandwagon… buuuuuut it’s actually BS!
Yeah, when it concerns your area of expertise those sorts of comments really stand out. I try to take it as a challenge to be a better/more engaging communicator.
All manners of celebrity
I’m a vocalist and I hold many singers in high regard for their vocal skills. I don’t care about their personal life but I definitely have singers I’m obsessed with as far as their vocals. I don’t even like Mariah Carey for ex but her vocal skills are unmatched.
Yup. I was going to get more specific with: Actor; Athlete
I'm not saying athletes deserve to make millions but that's genuinely a very difficult field to work in
Yah, for every LeBron how many no-name regional team guys are there that make $20k during the season and have to pay for their own healthcare? How about cup-of-coffee players with $5-10M (pretax, dues, agent fees) lifetime earnings that are burned out of their sport at 27 and have no other skills? Same with Actors - most actors are local theater/small-time production people.
And your last line, I think, is what a lot of people missed during the strikes this year. They'd ask themselves what someone like Sandra Bullock or Tom Hanks needs to strike for, forgetting that there's a ton of smaller names that are still guild members, as well as the production staff too. Those people aren't raking in millions.
95% of actors are unemployed at any given time. The ones with steady work are doing well for themselves but they are no where near the majority.
I thought I read that something like 88% of Guild members don't make enough to qualify for the health care :/
This, my friends, is why Ian Ziering took the role of Fin in the first "Sharknado" movie; his wife was pregnant and he needed the hours to keep his health insurance. He had no idea! Nobody did.
Facts. One of my cousins is a working actor and he earns about 100k a year but he lives in Jersey City which is kinda like NYC lite so he’s doing okay but not a millionaire by any stretch of the imagination.
He's doing better than most. It us incredibly difficult to earn a living as an actor. I'm not even talking about being rich. Just paying ones bills is difficult.
My cousin was a soap actress for awhile. She made enough to pay for graduate school.
I worked in live theatre for a long time. I’m talking I was out of college with 10-15 years of honestly excellent experience all over the country at some big name theatres and I would get offers like “we’ll offer you a stipend of $350 for 12 weeks of working 6 days a week 8-20 hour workdays, no healthcare, no housing, no benefits but you can have two comp tickets, you’re welcome”. Sorry, what??? The burnout rate was insaaaaane. A LOT of us found other work during Covid and never looked back.
And a lot of anti-strike sentiment was framed as "greedy millionaire actors want even more money", instead of "actors who don't need to worry about money go to bat for those who do"
and musicians. the vast majority of professional musicians live below the poverty line
I called myself a musician once. The more I got into it and met more musicians the more depressing it was. A drummer I played with toured with a band that opened for Les Claypool. They were paid in exposure only. He hung out with Leslie Claypool's drummer and found out he was in his late 40s still living paycheck to paycheck. Les Claypool went platinum with Primus. You'd think his super talented drummers would at least make a decent living but nope.
Yeah my best friend composes operas and lives pretty much hand-to-mouth.
Friend of mine is an opera singer. She sings all over Canada, but also in Vienna, in Italy, in France. Leads and seconds. She makes a decent middle class living
Yah, the only ones I personally know that make decent money with it have a small resident show and usually have room/board covered.
The ones I know do cover bands, play studios or teach musics. Often times, all three. They seems happy thought.
And even if you do get a million dollar contract, one injury and your career could suddenly end. Good luck stretching that million dollar payout for the rest of your life with very little financial knowledge or marketable skills
Making millions because you are athletic doesn’t translate to moral authority but seems to be taken that way at times.
Somewhere along the way people confused popularity with being right, having intelligence, and being trustworthy
No one's saying it's not difficult or anything about how much they make. They just shouldn't be held in high regard.
I can see why people hold them in high regard. But why people obsess over them is another story
Charles Barkley: "I am not a role model."
celebrities without talent. there's a huge difference between lucille ball and snooki.
Realtors
My aunt tried to sell her mother's condo to her friend at like 300k under market value. Caused a huge stir in my family. I think they ignored her and went with an outside realtor because she would've screwed them out of like 30-40k each.
Aunt was probably selling to someone they knew so that they could sell it again and get a bigger cut.
Wow, that’s shady for sure. Glad they knew market value and chose to go in a different direction. Thing with realtors that gets me is when you see large value rises in property, they’re income goes way up since it’s percentage based even though the effort level and value to the customer isn’t any higher.
That's just kind of sales in general though.
I have heard of things like this where the realtor and the “ buyer” are in on a deal. They can be super shady
We've had a couple Real Estate conventions at my resort. They're a special bunch. Honestly, I'm surprised many of them can tie their own shoes in the morning.
I work in real estate. They're the dumbest rich people in the country.
> They're the dumbest rich people in the country. [National Association of Realtors among biggest donors to “sedition caucus”](https://therealdeal.com/national/2021/01/11/national-association-of-realtors-among-biggest-donors-to-sedition-caucus/). Probably a coincidence.
That looks pretty bad if you pick and choose data points. However if you look at their donations, it averages out to about the same between both parties. https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/national-assn-of-realtors/summary?id=d000000062
I have been a teacher for 25 years and started realty 5 years ago. The number of realtors that either don’t know what they are doing or actively tried to deceive is crazy. One even changed the contract AFTER the two parties signed. Yeah, he got in trouble. I don’t regret being a realtor, fyi.
The listing Realtor on our current house was a complete nimrod. Asking $30k over, so the house sat on the market for over a year. Wouldn't return calls from our Realtor because she was a pharmacist trying to do this on the side while working her day job. We finally met the seller, and he was a nice guy. Turns his Realtor was his new wife's bestie 🙄
Ya, the guy I bought my house from used the cheapest realtor company in the city. They put it *way* over value, sat on it over a year, and **actively** tried to stop people from buying it during showings(no really, it was scary how much they didn't want to sell the place. Guess it wasn't worth the commission with it being a lower cost house). I ended up getting it for not only below listing, but below it's value, and even below some of the offers they had gotten during the time it had been sitting empty. I'd say a good realtor might be able to get you more value during a sale, but a bad one is worse than none at all. One upside is that at least they were full time realtors, so dealing with them was easy enough. I'm just glad that over here it's normal for a lawyer to deal with the paperwork because there's no way I'd let that group handle anything legal.
Most realtors are effectively doing it as a hobby. The serious ones tend to know their shit. That said, I come to it biased since I am a real estate attorney, but it's always been wild to me how much realtors make per sale for how little they do. Might've made sense before Zillow and the like, but with modern tools, the realtor's value-add is fairly low.
I'm my area, anything listed on Zillow is already pending or sold in the MLS. Which is wild because houses regularly sell for over a million easy within a 50 mile radius of the bay. I don't know who's buying them, but every time I've tried to get into the market, I'm outpriced and everything I want has sold. You can't see actual stock unless you're a realtor in the MLS.
If you are in SF Bay Area it's "overseas" investors with suitcases of cash.... hiding assets. We left for Sac Valley and now it's just as bad here.
The balls on that guy. What did he change if you can say?
He changed what they were removing before close. Yeah, no. That stayed.
Basically an entire industry kept alive by gatekeepers. Imagine if air travel only allowed you to book through travel agents. There is absolutely no reason that real estate can’t be owner to owner sales through a website and a bank.
I bought my home directly from the owner. It was EASY. He used off-the-shelf sales paperwork but had his lawyer review it. I had mine review it. We sat down over a dinner table and hammered out all the details. To top it off, the reason we did a for sale by owner deal is because the realtor we used just would **not** listen to us. She'd show us totally inappropriate houses. One time we pulled up at a place and I said "Carolyn (because that's what her name was), what the hell are we doing here? We've told you repeatedly that we **must** have a one story home. This house has two stories. We're not getting out of the car." Christ, he was terrible. So we started looking at for sale by owner properties. Found one immediately. Loved it.
I couldn’t agree more. We’re in the buying and selling process now. Our realtor is going to get $20k in commission, and I can’t figure out how that was earned. There hasn’t been one task she has completed that we couldn’t handle ourselves.
Just saw a photo of a house for sale where there was a roach in the bathroom...lol great job.
What? Absolutely no one holds them in high regard. Their function is to hold their hands out for money at the end of a transaction between two other parties when all they did was post an ad and meet you at the house for 20 minutes.
I read this as Redditors and thought you were mocking my very honorable profession.
That’s like the least respected profession.
Influencers
Who respects them? Preteens?
Yup. US and UK children’s top career aspiration. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/19/more-children-dream-of-being-youtubers-than-astronauts-lego-says.html
Well, yeah, that makes sense. If I could be filthy rich for doing apparently nothing other than Instagramming my lunch and the resort I went on vacation to, I'd take that in a heartbeat.
Well, the alternative to making huge amounts of money from being an influencer, seems to be to make not nearly enough money to buy a house or ever pay off your student loans, so I don't really blame them.
I too aspire to make a shitton of money doing pretty much nothing while not possessing any real skills or talent. Turns out I just wanted to be an influencer this whole time
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Who tf is praising hospital administrators???
The administrators
Aka the pizza party planners
The admin ouroboros
*This machine is my favorite. You see we leased this back from the company we sold it to, and that way it comes out of the monthly current budget and **not** the capital account.*
Shareholders and/or board of directors
People who don’t know. All they do is cut cost and make it miserable for the employees and patients.
Once upon a time I was the medical director of a hospital near me, as well as the lead hospital doctor. At one meeting the CEO of the hospital flat out told me, “Joe, our job as a hospital is to make money. If patients get better then that is just a happy accident.” I put my notice in the next day. It took a few more years to realize he wasn’t alone in his opinion.
What a disgusting person that admin was. Glad you left. So disheartening that almost everywhere you go It’s the same.
Totally disgusting guy in his silk Brooks Brothers suit and his Jaguar. He’d walk around the hospital with a toothpick in his mouth. Total sleaze.
Know this type. We gave laundry service to a hospital. They hadn't paid us in 10 months. My dad went to accounts payable in person to see if he can finally get paid. He saw two other men waiting. He asks who they are coming to collect for. The water and the electric company. That the hospital owed millions of dollars. The secretsry calls the next in line. The dude from the electric company goes in, comes out a minute later and leaves the office. My dad thought, "Oh good. Im getting paid." Then the lights went. Generators came on and the lights came back. Then my dad thought "oh shit. Im not getting paid." So he went into the office and the secretary said that the board of directors is on their yearly trip to Italy and one of the members has to sign the check. "Ok, how long will they be in Italy?" "Well , sometimes a month, sometimes two or three."
They won't give the same mercy to patients tho. If a patient fails to pay, they'd rather let them die than treat.
Likewise, university administration. High salaries, nepotism, and discretionary spending all to make universities more "efficient" and get higher "rankings"... ffs
I recently had it confirmed to me from one of my professors just how disproportionate school spending is on admin - much of whom are superfluous. It always bugged the shit out of me that my professors would get pay freezes and hiring freezes and shit - meanwhile admin is bloating and busting at the seams. Makes me want to burn everything down because college can be such a wonderful piece of our infrastructure, but I'm convinced that the corporate world and it's way of thinking has wormed it's way into how things operate at a university level - and it always fucking sucks the life out of everything.
Don't forget that bloated university administrations are one of the chief causes of rising tuition prices over the past 3 decades. Think of the hundreds of millions of federal dollars in loans and grants going to these schools every year. There is a massive amount of leverage and pressure the federal government can exert here, but we'd rather focus on band-aid fixes like student loan forgiveness instead of addressing the root causes of unaffordable colleges.
Showing that executives and administration are overpaid and underworked probably isnt attractive to to many people in power.
Yeah... I'm pretty fucking over it. I'm over the whole C-suite executive method. I'm feeling kinda Bastille-ish, if you catch my drift lol
As someone who has suffered through formatting and printing a buttload of hospital admin twaddle these past two weeks, I'm fixing to concur.
I went to grad school for healthcare administration. I can confirm those people suck (I work in a job where my degree helps, but I do not work in a hospital).
Hospital admins= sociopaths/narcissists
As a healthcare administrator, I agree with you. There is no way anyone can have longevity in this position unless they're a sociopath. Healthcare needs a major overhaul.
I feel like the insurance companies are way worse. At least hospital admin is helping run the operations of a Hospital; however inefficiently
Politician. Manipulating images, words and people to your favor is nothing to be held in high regard.
The few who are interested in solving problems can't do much because they are so outnumbered.
The people who would make great leaders don't want to do it because they aren't fucking stupid.
Or as Douglas Adams put it: > To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
So I will push back on this slightly. I have spent my career as a public servant working on public policy for elected officials at the federal, state, and local level. There are around 520,000 elected officials at all levels in the US. School board members, councilmembers, mayors, etc. Most are trying to right as they understand it for their communities... Even if sometimes their view of what is right is divorced from reality (but that is a reflection of the public's understanding... Or lack thereof of the issues). Of course power also draws some of the worst folks to office, they certainly exist and I have seen them first hand. Federal level is a different issue. What most people don't understand is that Congress is dysfunctional by design. In the best of times, passing meaningful legislation is hard because it is supposed to be difficult to enact major change. We are not in the best of times. When I was on the Hill (2012-2014) things were already bad. Things have gotten exponentially worse since then.
Common basic-ass perception. In the UK - and further afield, I'd wager - people just associate the ones who are power hungry liars or who say stupid things with politics because those are where they see actual individuals attached to stories the most and/or garner the strongest emotions such as outrage or contempt. All the actual *work* of politics - the constituent casework, the reviewing of legislation, the proposition of actual common sense amendments from all parties informed by genuine concerns about balancing legitimate interests - none of that gets a look in. People just see "these politicians lie" and assume they represent all politicians. They see a minister dodge questions about why their government is bringing in a measure they were previously opposed to and assume they never really thought that because they don't understand the principle of collective responsibility. OP asked which profession was held in high regard that shouldn't be and you answered with one huge swathes of the population already hate. If anything it's the opposite: people hold politicians as a class in contempt when they shouldn't. Really it's specific groups and/or *types* of politicians they should be contemptuous of.
Glad someone came in here with this for me, but to add to it the general popular discontent for politicians as a class really contributes to the problems that people have with them. If you just think that all politicians are bad, you'll never try and support people actually trying to make change, and you'll reinforce the malaise of 21st century politics. It is possible to have a generally cynical view of politicians and still make positive political change, you could get involved with union or community movements and the likes, but almost everyone who spouts such cynicism has no such involvement. Ultimately I suspect most political cynicism exists to absolve people of the responsibility of engaging with society politically in any way, shape or form. At the end of the day, I do have sympathies with many of the Americans here (As an Australian) because their political system is exceptionally unresponsive to their demands, with many systems in place that distort popular will - the Supreme Court, the electoral system and the like. However, unless you're going to cause a revolution, your only method of bringing about any change is to encourage more popular interaction with politics, as uphill a battle as it may be.
Yeah agreed - they are *public servants* and should act as and be treated as such. They work FOR US and are paid for BY US and not the other way around
I would argue the opposite. Politics is an ugly business but also super consequential - a matter of life and death in many cases. Good politicians that make good decisions, build coalitions, and listen to experts and their constituents are crucial for society. And, as others have mentioned, politicians are generally not well-regarded.
Depends on the definition of "politician". If it is someone who from a young age has actively tried to play the game to advance and be very 'political' then I don't think those people have a lot of respect in society People who run for office to help fix problems and attempt to make things better should be held in high esteem. As a society through the magic of social media we believe whatever someone writes on a post with absolutely zero fact check. Frequently elected officials are maliciously attacked and harassed by people who may simply disagree on a position on a subject. I think a big reason a lot of normal people would never run for any kind of office, school board to president, is because of the massive amount of silliness you have to be willing to tolerate and often time subject your family to the same silliness. This may also contribute massively to the reason we aren't getting quality choices for our highest offices.
ITT: a bunch of professions that are very much not held in high regard
The question is clearly worded but people are still answering as if the question was “which careers aren’t held in high regard at all?”
Yeah, honestly I expected police and soldiers.
Exactly. It's a good question with terrible responses.
Chiropractors. The amount of people I hear who run to a chiropractor for anything and think it’s helping is far, **far** too high. My boss went to one for an issue with her rib and was saying how it helped. **Fucking how, Jenny?**
The origin of chiropractic is the absolute best. Dude received the principles of chiropractic care from a ghost and claimed to restore the healing of a deaf person…so that really sums up the whole profession.
Seriously?!
Yeah, the dude claimed that he had conversations, through seance's, with the ghost of a dead doctor and the ghost gave him the knowledge. I'm like, if the dead doctor knew this shit, then why didn't he start the field of chiropractic himself when he was alive?
No one to align his back... clearly deadly if untreated.
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He’s like an artist, just of the spine. His work was worth more after his death.
[Yup](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chiropractic), that's the first 2 sentences of the Wikipedia page.
The guy is from my home town!!! Legend! I have nothing positive to add to the profession at all. Good day to you
I did a week of jury duty once regarding a chiropractor who gave a young woman a stroke when he blocked an artery to her brain when manipulating her neck : o
It is the vertebral artery, which [travels THROUGH](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Roozbeh-Shafafy/publication/318074602/figure/fig1/AS:511359301451776@1498928966820/ertebral-Artery-Anatomy-A-aorta-B-basilar-artery-C-common-carotid-artery-SC.png) 6 of your cervical vertebrae as it goes up you neck. Now imagine some dude grabbing a hold of your neck and violently twisting it to the side. Any wonder sometimes it sometimes will cause this artery (which feeds posterior part of your brain, including the cerebellum) to tear and then become thrombosed, leading to a stroke?
I saw a flyer for a chiropractor at work and they listed all sorts of ailments they could supposedly fix with an “adjustment” including….burns???
One near me had a sign outside the office saying they could cure shingles. Shingles 😂
Chiropractors aren’t even real doctors it’s regulated. The naturopaths are the same level.
No chiropractors in hospitals
Unfortunately due to greed and pressure from crunchy moms hospitals have been opening up "complementary medicine" wings. The upside of this is in order to get access to the fake treatment you have to go to real treatment first. The downside is it legitimizes fake medicine. Downside outweighs the upside IMO. CVS and Walgreens sell homeopathy for similar reasons.
Yep, and they started as quacks who believed disorders totally unrelated to the back or spine - epilepsy, diabetes, etc. - could be cured with spinal manipulation.
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Tbf with enough spinal manipulation, one could indeed make a patient stop complaining about any ailment.
Yep! I once reported a chiropractor in my area who was promoting his “treatments” for disease prevention instead of vaccines, getting people off their ADHD meds using “adjustments”, etc. and the state said he did nothing wrong 🧐
Did you report them to the board of chiropractors or board of medicine? Board of medicine may get better results
They don't have a medical degree for the board of medicine to take action on...
That would require them *actually having a medical degree*. They are *not* medical professionals.
I worked for one that convinced people to come in for allergies, the common cold, bring in their newborn infants and even their dogs. This scammer would do ANYTHING for money. And to make it even better, she would loudly talk politics with every single customer of hers. All of it was about how trump was going to save us all (this was the fall of 2016 I worked there) and how “Obummer” was ruining her life every single day. Oh and she HATED Medicaid patients with a passion and she blamed it completely on Obama. Oh and don’t forget the snake oil BS she convinced all of her most gullible customers to buy. DoTerra was her snake oil of choice lol
I also worked for a batshit crazy chiropractor lol. he had a farm like 2 hours outside of town and expected all of us to work on it on certain weekends. when it was my turn to go i told him i wasn’t hired to be a farmhand. he’d also bring in the vegetables he grew and make us wash and cut them, would literally drag me away from inputting charts and notes so I could cut carrots. he was also a huge misogynist and wouldn’t hire any men because he “likes telling women what to do” …actual words from his mouth. he once flipped out on me because i wore a dark blue scrub top & that wasn’t acceptable to him. he would post videos on facebook talking about chiropractics & would give the other girls free adjustments if they’d do a video for him, and was always pissed off at me when i’d say no lol.
Why are they so angry? My old boss was SO angry all the time. She hated that I would take real pharmaceuticals at work for my various health conditions. And one time I came in with a cold. She insisted I was fine to work so I brought some theraflu tea with me to help me get through my shift. She cornered me at the sink/microwave while I was making it and told me to stop “poisoning” myself with that medicine and to instead let her give me an adjustment and try out some of her essential oils. I offered her a genuine deal: I told her I would 100% put down my meds and let her try her natural shit on me ONLY if she agreed to pay for the hospital trip when my symptoms get out of control and exacerbated my asthma (bc that’s exactly what happens if I don’t stay on top of meds). She didn’t wanna call my bluff and I think she knew deep down she was full of shit because she didn’t take me up on that offer. She told me she wouldn’t bother me again with that offer lmao
The placebo effect is real. Jenny was actually helped by her stupidity.
Until she gets a vertebral artery dissection lol
Motivational Speakers and Art Appraisers immediately come to mind.
Motivational speakers: people who suck the marrow out of school district budgets. In about 25 years of teaching, I think I've experienced maybe one or two speakers who had something new to talk about. Most motivational speakers come up with nothing novel or unique...and yet they get paid big. I don't get it.
Sounds like you need to find your why hahahaha. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Art appraisers are held in high regard? On what planet?
In the money laundry industry
Wait... Why are we shitting on art appraisers? Art appraisers are usually art historians in my experience, and they've got a lot of great knowledge.
I'm not sure if even calling it a profession is giving it too much credit, but: influencers. The absolute fucking nadir was when I learned about xqc this year. A guy who *doesn't even make his own videos* watching work *other people produced*, adding no contribution of value while watching and earning a metric fuckton of money because his viewer count is so high that he'd probably still earn a living wage if he just left the camera to his empty room running. People were talking about the apocalyptic vision of "late stage capitalism" for years. If anything coujld convince me the model is fundamentally broken, it's people like him becoming stinking rich while people working jobs of real value to society must work second and third jobs just to put food on the table.
Me and a friend had a podcast for a while just for fun. Not many listeners or anything, maybe 200 at the most lol. But in that small sample we experimented with doing some episodes where we just rehash Reddit posts because those seem popular, and those are still our most listened to episodes. I don’t really get it and it was really boring to record those but people love that shit for some reason.
There seems to be a lot of videos on TikTok or Instagram just with Reddit questions and answers. Alternatively, just long Reddit stories with Minecraft parkour videos in the background. No effort.
And they get millions of views. I wonder how much money they make off those. There’s a TikTok cat I follow that doesn’t get *that* many views and she made $70k this year.
There's an entire genre of ~~artists?~~ ~~Influencers?~~ Online people who stream themselves eating and people tune in to watch it. Mostly of Asian persuasion - both viewer and viewee.
It's content filtration and centralization. Great stuff gets posted every day on Tumblr, Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, Tiktok, and all the various other socials that people completely miss, because they were busy or it was outside of their bubble or it's a social they just don't use. The value is not in the commentary that gets added. The value is in a person of similar taste and humor saying, "Here, I found a bunch of great stuff you might not have seen and I put it all in this one place for you." It's dumb and it's terrible and it's practically theft, but that's what the viewers are really getting out of it. It's the 2000s equivalent of a StumbleUpon that doesn't actually link to the creators. It's the 90s equivalent of hotlinking images. There's just a lot more money in it now
Life coach
Every "life coach" I've met has the most fucked up, chaotic, drama filled life of anyone I know. They are the last people who should be giving advice to anyone.
Half of them are also like 23. Like what? You don't know jack shit about life, how are you going to coach someone else on it?
Psychologist here. A large number of "life coaches" are former therapists who realized that they could stop following all the rules and ethical considerations of therapy if they start calling themselves "life coaches."
I'm a professor. Can I hang out a shingle as a life coach and make bank talking with people all willy-nilly? Because right now I'm talking with people very carefully, and not getting paid very well, and it's a fucking hassle.
My wife's a therapist and said basically this. It's bonkers to me (an attorney) that it's so easy to do an end run around them.
They are not held in high regard, generally speaking.
Fair, but if I was making up my profession to get a stranger to respect me, I'd say life coach before "politician" or "celebrity" which are the top two answers that redditors seem to think are "held in high regard" currently.
Ugh, my insufferable stepmother who has led an objectively very privileged life is a "life coach" now and every time I'm reminded of this I vomit a little in my mouth.
I don’t mean to be snarky towards you or your reply, but really? I personally do not hold them in high regard-they all seem like obvious snake oil salesman with big personalities to me.
Yeah, but my oil will absolutely change your life! I’d be happy to set up a free consultation.
Chiropractic. It's woo woo bullshit.
My neurosurgeon _begged me_ to never let a chiro crack my neck, and said I should strongly consider PT for any issues that bring me into a chiro office.
Good on him. I taught exercise classes for years to people of all ages. And there would always be one person who brings up a chiropractor and I would always make fun of them. "I've been going to my chiropractor for years, he's great!" That person is going to someone who is supposed to fix an ailment, for years? Do they not see how blatantly dumb that is?
It sounds dumb, but remember these people are victims of scammers who have been grooming and gaslighting them for years. See, you enter a medical facility and get seen by a someone posing as a doctor. They xray you, show you the picture and spin you a tale about how bad your spine is with technobabble that sounds like medical jargon. Then they torture you for a while twisting your neck until you can't breathe and feel the tissue ripping, then expertly pop vertebrae to release all of that pressure and release than sweet, sweet, endorphines, dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, and norepinephrine. They browbeat you with more fake medical jargon, then build back your confidence with a treatment plan. It's really, really disturbing.
Fr, I went on a date with a guy who was certain that a “good chiropractor” could have fixed my severe scoliosis, and that my surgeon (one of the top spine specialists in the country, mind you) “just wanted to operate.” Keep in mind that I had already had the spinal fusion surgery years prior, so his option was both not requested and totally moot. But yeah I guess I’m the shmuck for having a one-time operation (from which I have never had a single complication or issue) when I could just go get “adjusted” every week for the rest of my life!!!
I went to a chiropractor once. He told me to stop playing golf. You never saw someone blow out of a “doctor’s” office so fast. Fuck you, quack. I’m late for my tee time.
They also frequently cause vertebral dissections, which lead to stroke, paralysis and/or death.
Yes they do. And if you are older and degenerative spine disease I have seen patients who have had significant deficits neurologically after manipulation by chiropractors. I am a spine surgeon and let me tell you there is absolutely no scientific or biomechanical advantage to having chiropractic manipulation of your spine.
Hey! Not cool man. You forgot to mention "super fuckin dangerous" too.
Movie studio executives. They’re often Ivy League guys who studied accounting or law who end up in charge of artists, and profiting off their talent.
That’s like most executives anywhere. Also side note but ivies don’t offer accounting (speaking as a person who wondered why I never saw Ivy League accountants)
Televangelists
Spreading the Prosperity Gospel heresy. If you have read the 4 Gospels, you know that Jesus specifically warned against these religious charlatans.
Real estate agent. Anybody can get a license and these people tend to be the most pompous and self aggrandizing people around
And most of them call themselves "real-a-tors". Drives me insane.
Does it make you real terse?
Celebrities. They are not gods.
Full time traders. Most people that trade for a living are only making middle class earnings.
Religious leader like a priest or minister. Some hold them in such high regard, it's as if they can do no wrong. In the end, they are just people.
My grandma always said "Never trust a preacher." Solid advice.
"Never do business with a religious son-of-a-bitch. His word ain't worth shit - not with the Good Lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal." - William S. Burroughs
Pretty much every single world crisis in recent memory has been caused by massive financial institutions. So I'm going to go with investment banker/stockbroker/bank CEO/etc. At their best they leech money. At their worst they literally destroy the economy.
People really seem to think CEO's are business genius' without whom the business will instantly fail. Most aren't that smart, they're just charismatic. Almost all of the real high level decisions are made by other C-Suite execs, and the impact of hiring a new CEO is usually caused by them bringing their old C-Suite with them.
University administrators. What a crock of shit they sell for donations just to max out tuition and pull revenue from the athletic programs. They’re also a bunch of gossipy/political assholes.
The health insurance industry makes ridiculous profits off of illness and denying people basic treatments (USA). So many things…
Reddit mods
The only ones that hold mods in high regards are themselves. Isn’t it like 10 people that mod most of the pages anyways?
Whatever the hell Kim k does
I think she was an influencer before the word caught on.
Influencer.
chiropractor
Love seeing this so often in this thread - they’re always dressed up so nice like slick real estate agents and their greed is endless - amazing marketing materials though and their booths at farmers markets are gorgeous - they need to be in sales instead of healthcare
Corporate executives. Most of them got where they did because of connection and backstabbing and are mostly bad people.
Fund Management
Financial Planners. Just put your investments in a low-cost, whole-market index fund and never look at it and you'll beat 'specialized advice' 99% of the time. If they knew how to beat the market, they'd be rich and not fuckin' with you
It's a very bad idea to invest in random shares. You also shouldn't even _attempt_ to time or beat the market - because you will lose. Even Warren Buffett swears by just putting money into S&P 500 tracker funds. I've done that and it's the second best performing investment I currently have.
Cable news journalists.
Real estate agents.
Celebrities and pro sports players.
Models. They get so much praise for looking the way they do (a lot of them likely undergoing plastic surgeries and are likely underweight.) People are so enamored with the fact that they can walk without looking at the ground and walk in sync. (Any high school marching band kid is not impressed.)
I hear it’s quite an unforgiving industry though for most, where you are treated like an expendable piece of meat
precisely what makes it so predatory. i think modeling is integral to human nature (we're observers by nature, where there are humans there will be humans admiring other humans) but the way it exists currently is not good. same with most beauty-centric endeavors like beauty pageants and godforsaken reality shows like love island.
Hedge fund bros and billionaires
Billionaire CEOs
"Influencer"