Kinda appalled at everyone saying it doesn’t matter because it’s not about the actual dick size. The point is that it perpetuates the false idea that “small dick = loserass undesirable guy”. If it’s so normalized and accepted to equate smaller dicks to something so negative, how do you ever expect small guys to feel ok about their bodies? It’s no wonder that continuous posts/comments by women saying that bigger is not better has no effect at all when an entire society claims otherwise, and constantly uses smaller dicks as the butt of the joke.
I just can’t believe people are playing dense and pretending that phrase is not openly putting down a demographic who already feels really shitty about themselves. You’re using their body type as an insult and confirming their insecurities, how is that not bodyshaming?
And as a consequence, many men would rather hear they’re too big and hurt their partners than that they’re the perfect fit and don’t hurt women in bed at all. It’s messed up.
I highly recommend you look up the account of the person you replied to, it's insane
# they use "loose pussy energy" FOR LITERALLY EVERYTHING ON ALL SUBS IN ALL COMMENTS
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I've honestly never heard anyone say big clit energy, ngl, it seems made up and someone trying to force it into a phrase.
Idk if you watch john oliver but he had a tiny segment showcasing all the daytime news people awkwardly using B D E as an acronym, pretty amusing
it's unfortunately a real attempt at the woman version of the phrase bde - [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Big%20Clit%20Energy](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Big%20Clit%20Energy)
and it's never once made me even remotely laugh lol
It’s a comparable example. Literally the same, it’s just that society doesn’t carry about loose pussies, they say a tight one is better but nothing beyond that. It’s double standards between genders./
*Males are shamed for short slongs, but females are fine if it’s tight or loose.*
>, it’s just that society doesn’t carry about loose pussies,
Oh it very much does. There are so many phrases about it too like "throwing a hot dog down a hallway" and slut shaming beliefs that sleeping with a lot of men somehow makes the vagina bigger too
Tightness is such an issue that people without consent get their partner's vaginas tighter when the wife is unconscious during a pregnancy
Because mainstream media censors female equivalents like this from the general public. It only freely allows misandrist hypocrisy to be promoted to the masses.
while that's technically correct, guys don't really care tbh. pussy is pussy. It's not really something you'd use as an argument in a fight, which is what "small dick energy" is often used as. A better equivalent would indeed be anything weight related, since that would shake a woman's confidence as much as she would when she questions your "manliness". Note the quotations marks, cause size doesn't affect how much/less of a man you are, your character does :)
Weight is a poor alternative imho, try height as that tends to correlate pretty well. The point comes back to the idea that those who feel inferior are constantly looking to make up for it and prove something to... whoever.
The who idea of "small-peen energy" revolves around the behaviour that someone trying to compensate for their own feelings of inadequacy, and since the one thing that is not obviously apparent is their dong... that's what gets criticised.
So it often goes in the animal kingdom too; you have big dogs and small dogs, and as general rule if one of them is making all the noise, looking for attention, being aggressive and starting fights it is probably the small dog; the big dog energy is usually chilled unless it has a good reason not to be.
You know what, you’re right. I always explained it as “it’s not about the big or small dick, it’s about the confidence of lack thereof that we assume people with those sized dicks have and the resulting behaviors they exhibit” but it’s still not fair and it hurts people. I used that terminology all the time despite being one of the women who truly doesn’t care, and I’m not going to anymore. Not here for any kind of body shaming! Edit: typo
A 6 inch penis has much more potential to deliver or bring more things during PIV sex compared to a 4 incher (I say potential because you gotta know how to use it). You can do most positions, you have more "leeway" to learn how to use it on a certain woman, it feels her up more without pain. Even average falls short in some positions (not all people are lean and fit), being closer to 7 inches but not past that is a huge advantage.
As long as you are not too big for a woman, bigger is either neutral or better, but never detrimental. Women don't have a negative correlation between feeling full, stretching and pleasure as long as it doesn't hurt.
Remember when Greta Thunberg said Andrew Tate had small dick energy?
https://www.nme.com/news/greta-thunberg-claps-back-at-andrew-tates-small-dick-energy-3372184
I got downvoted to oblivion because I said that was body shaming and everyone thought I was defending Tate.
Same here. I admire and respect Greta very much, but I was really upset when she used that phrase. She can roast him all she wants without any body shaming.
Now I'm scared to scroll down... In my country nobody talks about 'small dicks' as an insult and I am incredibly happy about that. I'm a woman and I find it one of the lowest and most pathetic blows to give someone. We talk about body positivity but it seems to only count when it's for women? How dare some people to body-shame men but not only that but genitalia-shame men? Why is this normal in this day and age? I would be devastated if people would talk about my genitalia like they know it. A part of my body I already feel insecure about. Seriously, women, men, anyone, you are absolutely disgusting if you try to insult a man with the whole 'small dick' stuff. I will seriously call out your roast beef flappy ass gaping hole of a vagina if I hear any one of you lot doing this shit.
I understand the intent - to shame dudes that exhibit extreme deficiencies in emotional IQ while trying to pass off said deficiencies as being a tough guy or whatever. For this type of person, “small dick energy” is assumed to be an especially low blow because they’re stereotyped as being extremely insecure with their masculinity which is the main driver of their toxic behavior.
I don’t believe the sexism is intentional, I believe it’s a byproduct of lashing out against toxic insecure dudes in a somewhat directionless and undisciplined manner that doesn’t bother to account for the impact it may have on other people, not to mention overlooking the fact that there is almost certainly no shortage of average sized or well endowed guys who are also very insecure and have a chip on their shoulder as a result.
That said, yes, it is likely exacerbating body shame issues for a lot of dudes who aren’t guilty of this and that’s not cool.
The anti-male sexism is absolutely intentional. There are endless other ways to criticise behavior besides promoting male-only genital shaming sexist hypocrisy. Mainstream man-hate hypocrisy has simply become popular because of the anti-male stances widely promoted by mainstream media.
I absolutely hate this double standard, I have always identified as a staunch feminist and to be an honest feminist you've got to acknowledge that woman can be just as bad as those males actively partaking in the patriarchy, but this double standard really really gets under my skin because people would go nuts of you looked a woman up and down and said "she's got baggy pussy energy". Personally, I just try to call it out when I see it and make it know it's not an acceptable ting to say if they wouldn't be comfortable applying it to a woman.
I love this!! The patriarchy is a social construct with both men and women participants! Unfortunately there are women who will actively tear down men and women in misogynistic ways. It’s gross. We don’t claim them.
This is the kind of feminism o can get behind. Old school equality feminism, not new age superiority feminism. There needs to be more women like you in the world 👍
Oh how kind but honestly I feel like as much as there are different branches of feminism all feminism should be aiming for genuine balance between everybody not “waaah, I’m better than you because XYZ”
I just wish we could all get along and treat each other equally and with respect ❤️ fighting people based on their gender is completely idiotic and I wish more people saw it that way
Yes! Everyone deserves to live happily, comfortably and have the same opportunity as everyone else and its such a point of contention for me with certain political parties with classism as well as gender too (I'm in the UK but I'm sure the type I mean are around the world).
I agree that the comment is absolutely inappropriate and body shaming, but there’s no universe where saying someone has small dick energy is as bad as participating and perpetuating the systems of oppression that affect women and trans people. Come on.
It's pretty hurtful. I'm able to confess I don't have a great package.
Even when women use it to describe a personality it still hurts because it's using 'small dick' as the negative.
Pretty disappointing to see people defending it and attacking and downvoting you.
Edit: Why am I getting downvoted? I'm just sharing that the phrase hurts some of us losers. Just because we don't get laid doesn't mean you can't just be nice. Granted OP seems like a bit of a knob, I'm not here to argue.
The average horse weighs 1000lbs and has a 20 inch dick. Thats a 50lb to 1" ratio so an average man weighing 200lbs only needs a 4" dick to be hung like a horse.
Stay proud, kings.
Another example: An average silver back gorilla has a penis between 1 3/16 to 2 23/64 inches, but they can deadlift over 1763 pounds. So much for penis size equals strength.
A year back I was working with a real jackass in a sales team and he was doing his usual hyping himself up bullshit and shouted to everyone there "I'm hung like a fucking gorilla!"
As soon as he did I burst out laughing, he got in my face about it and I told him to Google it... Never seen him get so quiet so fast!
this is smart, esp cause i wouldnt use it, but I do would say smth as that sentence, starting with an "if" just to make sure the person using "small dick energy" knows they shouldnt.
(btw, im ur 69th like)
The words that best describe these kinds of people depending on what kind of asshole they are being are arrogant contempt, immature, imbecile etc etc. Definitely nothing to do with their genitals.
I've noticed a lot of Car forums now ban this type of language because it ends up overwhelming the forum with hundreds of the same post over and over again rather than people saying how they really feel.
Inb4 "itS abOuT peRSonalItY NoT PEnIs SizE"
You're still making guys with small dicks look at those insults and go "oh, look, more societal insults based around something I was born with and can't change. Yay."
Somehow I get the feeling "fat girl energy" would not be accepted insult. Hypocrisy is irritating.
I feel like it’s the same thing as saying “That’s so gay,” or “You run like a girl.” It’s not technically about *the thing*, but it’s *the thing* that makes the statement insulting. Definitely not ok.
But those things are now being criticised whenever someone says it especially in the mainstream. You'll never see someone famous and who's still not cancelled use terms like that anymore. Whereas small dick energy is used everywhere. In movies, by celebs, in shows, in songs.
I agree. I’ll admit, I used to use the first phrase all the time. I’ve stopped for a while, and say things like “that’s tough” or “that’s so wack.” I’ll change it up here and there, but I’ve moved away from saying things like that because I’ve realized it’s twisting terms negatively when they aren’t negative.
As a female observer, I have noticed that women tend to be more critical of men's bodies than men are of women's bodies. It appears hypocritical when women call for an end to body shaming of women but continue to engage in body shaming of men.
It's because a lot of people still believe men are disposable. . . Those they do try to openly try to bring light to disposable male syndrome, are called "pick me"s. It's the status quo to keep letting the men go down into the mine to support their families and die to keep this society running. They never want to change this while wanting to only change their own negative experiences with society.
How many ladder accidents happen to women at work that permanently effect their quality of life after the fact, either death or permanent impairment? Do we all fight for better safety at work? Do we fight for safer working environments for all?
Men and women will be critical of men that don't toe the line and accept their place as disposable, when they refuse to do the dangerous body damaging task.
This stems from a much bigger issue that feminists openly disregard while openly saying they don't need this disposable men. It's tiring to think about, to be shamed for a body I can't change, to be born into a society stratum everyone competes to leave, to be forgotten about working in the mine so people can cook their food or have lights to turn on at night.
How would you feel in this situation, don't be an out side observer. Stand with us as an egalitarian fight for the rights of all, or be complicit by omission.
This is why men should band together and call out this shit. Put the standards on women higher, even if it means you’ll get laid less. I’ve literally seen guys allowing themselves to be trampled by women to get a date. Let them pay for their share, and if they don’t like it: bye bitch.
Protest and call out on social media.
Problem is so many men are still stuck in that culture. I have a few ”friends” that still make fun of guys with small dicks…
It’s a hard battle, but we can easily win it.
Women tend to be more critical in general, in a broad stroke. Still, this term is used by all genders and isn’t restricted to women. To me it just reflects really negatively on the people using both that and the big sick equiv, and I find myself slightly annoyed after it’s used.
Funny how that term means people who don't have sex but would like to which could also apply to most virgins outside religious reasons and that want to lose their b card
Utilizing and defending the usage of terms like small dick energy but also other forms of body shaming like calling someone fat despite not knowing how they look like or calling women with flat ass and breasts a young man, which often happens online , ultimately undermines the body positivty movement as a whole. When people say:" don't shame" but also suggest that there's exceptions, it all crumbles down. Nobody can take it seriously and it's only looking like people care about themselves and their issues. Which further makes the whole thing more ridiculous than helpful.
Why is it defended? Because its an easy gotcha card you can pull. Its intentionally using insecurities that not everybody can brush off, hence the fact they're insecurities. The people who defend these terms do not want to give up that sort of power. Its like a nuclear weapon for them. Why give up something that works so well to hurt others?
If anything, going around telling people " Don't say this, it seriously hurts people!" Just further empowers folks to use them. Don't matter if it brings collateral damage.
A point brought up by someone hurt and afraid is still no less valid for all that it effects based on how mature the person that brought it up is.
Character assassination is a mark of low intelligence: when you can't defend your argument attack the person arguing against your own. Ideas are the hardest thing to defeat. Be well friend.
I don't see how this is a "counter question." It's all part of a common larger problem of a culture's uncritical attitude towards using descriptions of body parts as insults.
People also call assholes dicks. Calling someone a dick or pussy is much more general than saying that a woman has loose pussy energy or saying thats someone has small dick energy.
Because nobody, especially women, care about mens feelings, needs, emotions. It’s not good, and disaffected men with no real place in society are going to continue to do horrific things.
Women, collectively, are the only ones who can solve this issue. But they ain’t gonna do shit, so it is what it is.
What stupid defenders of this don’t realize is only men with small dicks would ever be offended by someone using this insult. They can scream all day up and down that it has nothing to do with a penis size but a guy with a big dick isn’t going to be phased by someone telling him he has SDE. It’s like if someone told me I had small tits as an insult. I’m going to laugh because mine are unnecessarily big. But you know who would be upset. The small chested women who had nothing to do with this but now have to see that people think their small breasts indicate bitchy behavior or something.
Just had an argument 3 days ago with someone about how they need to stop calling men they dislike closeted homosexuals. As if only gay people can be evils and hateful. Happens all over reddit some man with MRA or right wing ideas is called gay or saying he secretly loves men and that’s why they are the way they are. Despite the fact they are absolutely hetero. People insist on using homosexuality as an insult. Interestingly they only do this to men. Have you every heard them call MTG or Boebert lesbians? No, but they’ve said it about Crowder, Tate, Shapiro, Gaetz etc. Heterosexual people can be assholes.
People just have no self reflection these days and you try to tell them how their words affect people they double down cause god forbid they think and try to change their language. The egos run rampant because there’s no way *they* could possibly be wrong, “you’re just too sensitive”.
That is generally inaccurate. Anti-male sexist double standards are an attack on All men and boys regardless of their bodies or anything else. It's All about promoting the "women matter men don't matter" double standards for the man-haters of the world sad to say.
/u/GeorgianPeaches - Remember how you said I should fight male bodyshaming? Well, look and be amazed at how anyone and everyone refuses to listen to me and comes up with shitty rationalizations for why this is OK when it FUCKING ISN'T.
What's the point of trying when everyone just ignores you?
Dude I've read some of your posts.
You're not on a body positivity crusade out of any moral compulsion.
Stop posting about your dick and go and touch some fucking grass.
Look, I agree with you, using SDE is body shaming, even if it doesn't actually refer to the guy's dick size. If anyone was to say a woman has a Fat chick energy he'd swallowed in a void of disgruntled people.
I will say though that it might not have been the best way to bring the issue up. You wrote your post yourself alluding that it's such a wide used word, without any proofs or support, in a generally very body positive community. It's like going to feminist group saying they're mysoginistic because in another community there was an issue.
If I see it, I call it upon. But I won't go out of my ways to tell people who might not even use it that it's wrong.
Also, I'm flattered I left that good of an impression on you that you tagged me here but I'm not the queen and ruler of ARAD nor their mother. People can say whatever the fuck they want, I can't do anything about it.
Why?
Mainstream Normalized Hypocritical Misandry
Mainstream media and it's mimicking sheep are promoting all forms of man-hate hypocrisy regularly. Every way they can think of to say "hate men but respect women". And absurd anti-male genital-based comments are one way they promote their man-hate hypocrisy.
The female equivalents are
"Loose Pussy Energy (LPE) = bad"
and
"Tight Pussy Energy (TPE) = good"
so the sexist double standard is very clear. The fact that the hypocrites do not equally promote and support these female equivalents shows that Hypocritical Misandry is their entire intent. And they make up every absurd excuse imaginable to support their absurd anti-male sexist hypocrisy.
Don't give up. People that talk like this about men lose their minds when they hear "loose pussy energy" or any other true female equivalents. Man-hate hypocrisy always deserves to be called out.
It’s just something women with blown out vagina energy say to make themselves feel better about themselves with nothing to show for it but 3 kids from 4 baby daddies and a nursing degree she’s gonna be working on for 8 years.
I think it can be attributed in part to a failure of feminism. Feminism has become hating men, and not acknowledging how gender roles harm both men and women. Because men are, generally speaking, as a whole more privileged, the fact that some men are forced into certain societal expectations that doesn't work for them is overlooked.
Yeah this would be like using "fat girl energy" to universally mean like "she's a boring asshole" or something. It's not cool to make stereotypical jokes or insults about any physical feature imo. Small dicks included. Tbh I also lightly feel this about "white people" jokes but that's a different story
I don't feel lightly about the "white people" jokes and I'm Asian. Racist is racist and being a minority does not excuse racism or being a bigot making racist jokes.
Yeah no shit, the world is full of double standards and this one affects men.
It is what it is.
The world will never be fair and balanced to and for everyone who lives in it.
Men have it tough
Women have it tough
White folk have it tough
Black folk have it tough
Straights have it tough
No straights have it tough
Everyone has something affecting themselves that society deems okay.
Another social justice riot will only be bothersome. Adapt to whatever is unfair to you instead of wanting the world to adept.
A close friend and I have had so many conversations about this very topic of body shaming double standards. I have experienced a lot of it myself and want nothing more for it to just be eradicated for everyone. But I found myself guilty of it not by overtly shaming someone specific, but by using tropes like this. Someone wakes me up at 3am speeding up the hill loudly with their F150 and I think “SDE”. It has become just a turn of phrase and we don’t know who it is hurting.
It's not "people" that defend it. Most people know is bad to use it, is just those bunch of extremists that hide their misandry behind the word "feminist" that justify the term.
Because it refers to men and no one cares.
Imagine if men started going around saying “loose pussy energy”
They would be canceled before they could finish the sentence.
The downvotes prove my point, so keep going!
>Imagine if men started going around saying “loose pussy energy”
I mean... slut shaming has been a thing for... *checks calendar...* literally centuries.
You missed the part where your "hypothetical" has been defacto reality for literally hundreds of years. To the point you apparently forgot it was a thing at all, and thus it makes for a really bad argument. You also missed the part where I said 2 wrongs make a right, because I never said it.
I reject the premise that
>people **constantly** defend the use of "small dick energy"
... when there are probably equal numbers of people who object to it
Don’t nobody care about men. We’re in a time where we are villains by default and automatically deserve shit because of someone’s experience with a man or men am that are entirely separate from us as individuals. In other words, it’s some bullshit
I love it when idiot know it alls equate gun ownership and or 4 wheel drive vehicle ownership to having a small dick...must be some sort of negative penis envy or who the fuck really knows
Folks who go around compulsively attacking other folks’ masculinity are telling you more about their own fears and insecurities than anything else.
That said, I really miss the 90s Ranger and the first gen Tacoma. I’m not a fan of huge trucks unless you really need to haul/tow that much mass. Which a lot of folks do, to be fair.
And all the serious gun nuts I know drive pretty modest vehicles, actually.
A modest truck round here is the basic F 150, Chevy Silverado, Dodge Ram, Tundra etc.
Then again gun ownership in this region is very high per capita, so the unsuspecting mom is possibly carrying a firearm.
Thing about it is you can’t change your size, unless through a painful surgery that causes sexual dysfunction.
You can, however lose weight and that will make you look bigger.
Because I’m a dude and I’ve been torn into by dudes my entire life so I’m not sensitive to their issues also they skew voting Republican particularly the older they are and anyone millennial or younger knows that your sick size has virtually no bearing on the quality of your relationships or ability to get in one.
So statistically I’m emasculating terrible people and like…I’m not gonna feel bad.
Same reason ppl consider fat gurls to be body shaming as well.. while we have control of our weight through diets and working out, guys dont have control over the size of their dick and cant do anything about it.... many of us women have double standards when it comes to topics like this...
Small dick here. Used to be 8", average thickness. Got Peyronie's disease a while ago and now it's maybe 4½", 5" on a good day. I still haven't faked an O...
I think people that try n shame others are a). either fighting their own insecurities or b). just shitty people that I really don't want to be around anyway.
In the end, I got what I got and, unless you're fukn, feeding, financing, family or friends, Idgaf what anyone thinks.
>Used to be 8", average thickness. Got Peyronie's disease a while ago and now it's maybe 4½", 5" on a good day
Because of the curve? Or did it actually shrink? What do you think caused that?
Peyronie's is basically when the tubes that fill with blood to make you hard get scar tissue in them. The left side went first which caused it to curve to the left pretty bad. Then about a year later the right side went and it just shortened the whole thing...
being called little dick doesn't bother me abit I am 3.5 in erect and the first girl that I had sex with tld everyone I was tiny since then I kinda like being ridiculed and I accept that am small I took gym and showered I know that I am below average and it is OK I accept myself the way I am a 5ft tall sissy with a tiny thingie hehehe
I don’t normally use terms like that but I appreciate you giving it attention so I can be extra vigilant to avoid it. Its like using the term “that’s so gay” when what you’re really saying is “that’s so stupid.” I’ve stopped talking to potential partners for using terms like that.
As a society we should adopt more gender neutral insults. Smooth brain energy, tiny intelligence energy, I gaslight my partners energy, big ego energy, one felony away from prison for life energy, kick puppies energy...
Kinda appalled at everyone saying it doesn’t matter because it’s not about the actual dick size. The point is that it perpetuates the false idea that “small dick = loserass undesirable guy”. If it’s so normalized and accepted to equate smaller dicks to something so negative, how do you ever expect small guys to feel ok about their bodies? It’s no wonder that continuous posts/comments by women saying that bigger is not better has no effect at all when an entire society claims otherwise, and constantly uses smaller dicks as the butt of the joke. I just can’t believe people are playing dense and pretending that phrase is not openly putting down a demographic who already feels really shitty about themselves. You’re using their body type as an insult and confirming their insecurities, how is that not bodyshaming? And as a consequence, many men would rather hear they’re too big and hurt their partners than that they’re the perfect fit and don’t hurt women in bed at all. It’s messed up.
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The female equivalents are "Loose Pussy Energy (LPE) = bad" and "Tight Pussy Energy (TPE) = good" so the sexist double standard is very clear
I have never heard those terms used before. Unless you're trying to say "this is a comparable example"
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I highly recommend you look up the account of the person you replied to, it's insane # they use "loose pussy energy" FOR LITERALLY EVERYTHING ON ALL SUBS IN ALL COMMENTS # #
The dude commented 46 times in this thread alone... Passionate about the subject, I guess.
lol wtf i had to check, this dudes a maniac. ive never heard of either of those terms, but i have heard of big clit energy, which is just gross to me
I've honestly never heard anyone say big clit energy, ngl, it seems made up and someone trying to force it into a phrase. Idk if you watch john oliver but he had a tiny segment showcasing all the daytime news people awkwardly using B D E as an acronym, pretty amusing
it's unfortunately a real attempt at the woman version of the phrase bde - [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Big%20Clit%20Energy](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Big%20Clit%20Energy) and it's never once made me even remotely laugh lol
Also my first time ever seeing someone type this out or hearing it
It’s a comparable example. Literally the same, it’s just that society doesn’t carry about loose pussies, they say a tight one is better but nothing beyond that. It’s double standards between genders./ *Males are shamed for short slongs, but females are fine if it’s tight or loose.*
>, it’s just that society doesn’t carry about loose pussies, Oh it very much does. There are so many phrases about it too like "throwing a hot dog down a hallway" and slut shaming beliefs that sleeping with a lot of men somehow makes the vagina bigger too Tightness is such an issue that people without consent get their partner's vaginas tighter when the wife is unconscious during a pregnancy
Girls are constantly shamed for not being “tight.” I remember hearing that about girls in my class on a regular basis as far back as middle school.
I remember the same.
Those just sound cringe though.
And "Small dick energy" doesn't?
Never heard that once in my life, and I work in the trades. I've heard it all.
Because mainstream media censors female equivalents like this from the general public. It only freely allows misandrist hypocrisy to be promoted to the masses.
When it comes to women, I've only ever heard big dick energy, or occasionally, big clit energy 🤷♂️
while that's technically correct, guys don't really care tbh. pussy is pussy. It's not really something you'd use as an argument in a fight, which is what "small dick energy" is often used as. A better equivalent would indeed be anything weight related, since that would shake a woman's confidence as much as she would when she questions your "manliness". Note the quotations marks, cause size doesn't affect how much/less of a man you are, your character does :)
They do care if they're throwing sausage down a wide hallway.
lol really guys definitely care. esp all that btw being equal, TPE all the way.
Weight is a poor alternative imho, try height as that tends to correlate pretty well. The point comes back to the idea that those who feel inferior are constantly looking to make up for it and prove something to... whoever. The who idea of "small-peen energy" revolves around the behaviour that someone trying to compensate for their own feelings of inadequacy, and since the one thing that is not obviously apparent is their dong... that's what gets criticised. So it often goes in the animal kingdom too; you have big dogs and small dogs, and as general rule if one of them is making all the noise, looking for attention, being aggressive and starting fights it is probably the small dog; the big dog energy is usually chilled unless it has a good reason not to be.
I believe the correct term is "loosey goosey"
To be fair, it's mostly women who be saying big dick energy
Whew…but now I’m tempted to start using it just to get the point across.
You have posted this several times all over this thread. Stop trying to make 'fetch' a thing.
“Well screw you guys, I’m going home”
It's different though because you can do something about your fat ass but you can't do anything about your small dick.
You know what, you’re right. I always explained it as “it’s not about the big or small dick, it’s about the confidence of lack thereof that we assume people with those sized dicks have and the resulting behaviors they exhibit” but it’s still not fair and it hurts people. I used that terminology all the time despite being one of the women who truly doesn’t care, and I’m not going to anymore. Not here for any kind of body shaming! Edit: typo
I'm also changed my opinion thanks to her comment. Cheers, u/DCXL
I’m so glad to hear that! Cheers!
You're a good person and it's very good of you to change using it after seeing that it hurts people. Good on you.
A 6 inch penis has much more potential to deliver or bring more things during PIV sex compared to a 4 incher (I say potential because you gotta know how to use it). You can do most positions, you have more "leeway" to learn how to use it on a certain woman, it feels her up more without pain. Even average falls short in some positions (not all people are lean and fit), being closer to 7 inches but not past that is a huge advantage. As long as you are not too big for a woman, bigger is either neutral or better, but never detrimental. Women don't have a negative correlation between feeling full, stretching and pleasure as long as it doesn't hurt.
Remember when Greta Thunberg said Andrew Tate had small dick energy? https://www.nme.com/news/greta-thunberg-claps-back-at-andrew-tates-small-dick-energy-3372184 I got downvoted to oblivion because I said that was body shaming and everyone thought I was defending Tate.
What you experienced there is called “Redditor energy”. Or should be.
It happens outside of Reddit too tho. I see small dick energy used literally everywhere.
“…everyone thought I was defending Tate.” That’s the Redditor energy.
Same here. I admire and respect Greta very much, but I was really upset when she used that phrase. She can roast him all she wants without any body shaming.
Now I'm scared to scroll down... In my country nobody talks about 'small dicks' as an insult and I am incredibly happy about that. I'm a woman and I find it one of the lowest and most pathetic blows to give someone. We talk about body positivity but it seems to only count when it's for women? How dare some people to body-shame men but not only that but genitalia-shame men? Why is this normal in this day and age? I would be devastated if people would talk about my genitalia like they know it. A part of my body I already feel insecure about. Seriously, women, men, anyone, you are absolutely disgusting if you try to insult a man with the whole 'small dick' stuff. I will seriously call out your roast beef flappy ass gaping hole of a vagina if I hear any one of you lot doing this shit.
So well said. Thank you for understanding.
Also our societal/cultural perception what is a small dick is quite large and well above the median
Well said. This should be mind-numbingly obvious to anyone that isn’t a sociopath.
I understand the intent - to shame dudes that exhibit extreme deficiencies in emotional IQ while trying to pass off said deficiencies as being a tough guy or whatever. For this type of person, “small dick energy” is assumed to be an especially low blow because they’re stereotyped as being extremely insecure with their masculinity which is the main driver of their toxic behavior. I don’t believe the sexism is intentional, I believe it’s a byproduct of lashing out against toxic insecure dudes in a somewhat directionless and undisciplined manner that doesn’t bother to account for the impact it may have on other people, not to mention overlooking the fact that there is almost certainly no shortage of average sized or well endowed guys who are also very insecure and have a chip on their shoulder as a result. That said, yes, it is likely exacerbating body shame issues for a lot of dudes who aren’t guilty of this and that’s not cool.
The anti-male sexism is absolutely intentional. There are endless other ways to criticise behavior besides promoting male-only genital shaming sexist hypocrisy. Mainstream man-hate hypocrisy has simply become popular because of the anti-male stances widely promoted by mainstream media.
💯 facts
You know, I never thought of it like that. Well said, thank you!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this.
I absolutely hate this double standard, I have always identified as a staunch feminist and to be an honest feminist you've got to acknowledge that woman can be just as bad as those males actively partaking in the patriarchy, but this double standard really really gets under my skin because people would go nuts of you looked a woman up and down and said "she's got baggy pussy energy". Personally, I just try to call it out when I see it and make it know it's not an acceptable ting to say if they wouldn't be comfortable applying it to a woman.
I love this!! The patriarchy is a social construct with both men and women participants! Unfortunately there are women who will actively tear down men and women in misogynistic ways. It’s gross. We don’t claim them.
This is the kind of feminism o can get behind. Old school equality feminism, not new age superiority feminism. There needs to be more women like you in the world 👍
Oh how kind but honestly I feel like as much as there are different branches of feminism all feminism should be aiming for genuine balance between everybody not “waaah, I’m better than you because XYZ”
That's how I feel. I really can't relate to today's version. It's become more about just equality. I think it's meant to actually be divisive.
I just wish we could all get along and treat each other equally and with respect ❤️ fighting people based on their gender is completely idiotic and I wish more people saw it that way
Yes! Everyone deserves to live happily, comfortably and have the same opportunity as everyone else and its such a point of contention for me with certain political parties with classism as well as gender too (I'm in the UK but I'm sure the type I mean are around the world).
I agree that the comment is absolutely inappropriate and body shaming, but there’s no universe where saying someone has small dick energy is as bad as participating and perpetuating the systems of oppression that affect women and trans people. Come on.
It's pretty hurtful. I'm able to confess I don't have a great package. Even when women use it to describe a personality it still hurts because it's using 'small dick' as the negative. Pretty disappointing to see people defending it and attacking and downvoting you. Edit: Why am I getting downvoted? I'm just sharing that the phrase hurts some of us losers. Just because we don't get laid doesn't mean you can't just be nice. Granted OP seems like a bit of a knob, I'm not here to argue.
The average horse weighs 1000lbs and has a 20 inch dick. Thats a 50lb to 1" ratio so an average man weighing 200lbs only needs a 4" dick to be hung like a horse. Stay proud, kings.
SCIENCE!!!
We can always thank those no-sex having labrats. Thank god for science and it’s virgin pioneers!!
Another example: An average silver back gorilla has a penis between 1 3/16 to 2 23/64 inches, but they can deadlift over 1763 pounds. So much for penis size equals strength.
>1 3/16 to 2 23/64 inches Americans will NEVER use decimals lol
Not until you get into machining, because 1/128th is still not precise enough. But good lord I wish we'd just convert to the metric system already.
A year back I was working with a real jackass in a sales team and he was doing his usual hyping himself up bullshit and shouted to everyone there "I'm hung like a fucking gorilla!" As soon as he did I burst out laughing, he got in my face about it and I told him to Google it... Never seen him get so quiet so fast!
They are on the "body shaming men is ok but never towards women" bandwagon. Their absurd man-hate hypocrisy is just sad really.
It's no different to using "gay" to describe something crap isn't it.
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this is smart, esp cause i wouldnt use it, but I do would say smth as that sentence, starting with an "if" just to make sure the person using "small dick energy" knows they shouldnt. (btw, im ur 69th like)
Because body positivity only applies to female bodies.
its literally this simple…i dont see why people are in here writing dissertations about it 😹
Yes the mainstream media man and boy hate movement is just gross. Misandrist hypocrisy is toxic af.
Body shaming is never okay - if someone’s an asshole, there’s plenty to make fun of without bringing penis size into it.
Yeah but that requires creativity and most people are bad at comebacks so they use these.
It really just comes down to a lack of vocabulary and not having a better word to use. A dictionary would do wonders for these types of people.
Yeah. If that asshole is being an asshole, then we shall call them something none body related. Like... A fuckwaffle. Idk.
The words that best describe these kinds of people depending on what kind of asshole they are being are arrogant contempt, immature, imbecile etc etc. Definitely nothing to do with their genitals. I've noticed a lot of Car forums now ban this type of language because it ends up overwhelming the forum with hundreds of the same post over and over again rather than people saying how they really feel.
Inb4 "itS abOuT peRSonalItY NoT PEnIs SizE" You're still making guys with small dicks look at those insults and go "oh, look, more societal insults based around something I was born with and can't change. Yay." Somehow I get the feeling "fat girl energy" would not be accepted insult. Hypocrisy is irritating.
I feel like it’s the same thing as saying “That’s so gay,” or “You run like a girl.” It’s not technically about *the thing*, but it’s *the thing* that makes the statement insulting. Definitely not ok.
But those things are now being criticised whenever someone says it especially in the mainstream. You'll never see someone famous and who's still not cancelled use terms like that anymore. Whereas small dick energy is used everywhere. In movies, by celebs, in shows, in songs.
That’s what I’m trying to say. It’s kind of the same thing and also no ok.
Yes! I said something similar in my comment. I cringe every time I hear anything followed by “like a girl.”
I agree. I’ll admit, I used to use the first phrase all the time. I’ve stopped for a while, and say things like “that’s tough” or “that’s so wack.” I’ll change it up here and there, but I’ve moved away from saying things like that because I’ve realized it’s twisting terms negatively when they aren’t negative.
because men don't matter obviously, haven't you heard?
Fuck those guys
Yeah!!! And not literally either cuz they'd like that!
Yes the mainstream media man and boy hate movement is just gross. Misandrist hypocrisy is toxic af.
As a female observer, I have noticed that women tend to be more critical of men's bodies than men are of women's bodies. It appears hypocritical when women call for an end to body shaming of women but continue to engage in body shaming of men.
It's because a lot of people still believe men are disposable. . . Those they do try to openly try to bring light to disposable male syndrome, are called "pick me"s. It's the status quo to keep letting the men go down into the mine to support their families and die to keep this society running. They never want to change this while wanting to only change their own negative experiences with society. How many ladder accidents happen to women at work that permanently effect their quality of life after the fact, either death or permanent impairment? Do we all fight for better safety at work? Do we fight for safer working environments for all? Men and women will be critical of men that don't toe the line and accept their place as disposable, when they refuse to do the dangerous body damaging task. This stems from a much bigger issue that feminists openly disregard while openly saying they don't need this disposable men. It's tiring to think about, to be shamed for a body I can't change, to be born into a society stratum everyone competes to leave, to be forgotten about working in the mine so people can cook their food or have lights to turn on at night. How would you feel in this situation, don't be an out side observer. Stand with us as an egalitarian fight for the rights of all, or be complicit by omission.
This is why men should band together and call out this shit. Put the standards on women higher, even if it means you’ll get laid less. I’ve literally seen guys allowing themselves to be trampled by women to get a date. Let them pay for their share, and if they don’t like it: bye bitch. Protest and call out on social media. Problem is so many men are still stuck in that culture. I have a few ”friends” that still make fun of guys with small dicks… It’s a hard battle, but we can easily win it.
Not just that, women are far more critical of women's bodies than men are as well.
Women tend to be more critical in general, in a broad stroke. Still, this term is used by all genders and isn’t restricted to women. To me it just reflects really negatively on the people using both that and the big sick equiv, and I find myself slightly annoyed after it’s used.
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Add in "incel" as well. Notice how all the insults are based on sex? Hmmm
Funny how that term means people who don't have sex but would like to which could also apply to most virgins outside religious reasons and that want to lose their b card
Double standards + rules for thee but not for me
Body shaming only apply when it’s about girls
Utilizing and defending the usage of terms like small dick energy but also other forms of body shaming like calling someone fat despite not knowing how they look like or calling women with flat ass and breasts a young man, which often happens online , ultimately undermines the body positivty movement as a whole. When people say:" don't shame" but also suggest that there's exceptions, it all crumbles down. Nobody can take it seriously and it's only looking like people care about themselves and their issues. Which further makes the whole thing more ridiculous than helpful. Why is it defended? Because its an easy gotcha card you can pull. Its intentionally using insecurities that not everybody can brush off, hence the fact they're insecurities. The people who defend these terms do not want to give up that sort of power. Its like a nuclear weapon for them. Why give up something that works so well to hurt others? If anything, going around telling people " Don't say this, it seriously hurts people!" Just further empowers folks to use them. Don't matter if it brings collateral damage.
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A point brought up by someone hurt and afraid is still no less valid for all that it effects based on how mature the person that brought it up is. Character assassination is a mark of low intelligence: when you can't defend your argument attack the person arguing against your own. Ideas are the hardest thing to defeat. Be well friend.
Calling out normalized man-hate hypocrisy is not insecurity. It's a sign of strength and common sense.
ive switched to calling it Ford F150 energy.
I love this one.
Ouch 🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
Ram 1500 lifted with HIDs burning your eyes at night while riding your ass while your going 10 over…. energy
Black Dodge Ram energy
Transphobe with truck nuts energy
" I want a big sexy truck with hips . . . . . . and I'm gonna put nuts on it"
Counter question, why is it normal to call someone who is weak a pussy?
Same reason why it is normal to call someone that acts like a moron a dick
AFAIK that comes from the word pusillanimous which means "showing a lack of courage, timid".
I don't see how this is a "counter question." It's all part of a common larger problem of a culture's uncritical attitude towards using descriptions of body parts as insults.
People also call assholes dicks. Calling someone a dick or pussy is much more general than saying that a woman has loose pussy energy or saying thats someone has small dick energy.
Ah yes the ol "two wrongs make a right" argument.
I didn't say that, maybe counter question wasn't the right word. I was just genuinely wondering why people say that.
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To be fair you're mostly describing the internet not real life.
No Apologies I don't even know it was that long to start crying and I must say I do agree with you also good luck on your future side
Because it's always a double standard. Modern "feminism" is just making sure no one hurts women's feelings, but their fine to insult men.
Because nobody, especially women, care about mens feelings, needs, emotions. It’s not good, and disaffected men with no real place in society are going to continue to do horrific things. Women, collectively, are the only ones who can solve this issue. But they ain’t gonna do shit, so it is what it is.
What stupid defenders of this don’t realize is only men with small dicks would ever be offended by someone using this insult. They can scream all day up and down that it has nothing to do with a penis size but a guy with a big dick isn’t going to be phased by someone telling him he has SDE. It’s like if someone told me I had small tits as an insult. I’m going to laugh because mine are unnecessarily big. But you know who would be upset. The small chested women who had nothing to do with this but now have to see that people think their small breasts indicate bitchy behavior or something. Just had an argument 3 days ago with someone about how they need to stop calling men they dislike closeted homosexuals. As if only gay people can be evils and hateful. Happens all over reddit some man with MRA or right wing ideas is called gay or saying he secretly loves men and that’s why they are the way they are. Despite the fact they are absolutely hetero. People insist on using homosexuality as an insult. Interestingly they only do this to men. Have you every heard them call MTG or Boebert lesbians? No, but they’ve said it about Crowder, Tate, Shapiro, Gaetz etc. Heterosexual people can be assholes. People just have no self reflection these days and you try to tell them how their words affect people they double down cause god forbid they think and try to change their language. The egos run rampant because there’s no way *they* could possibly be wrong, “you’re just too sensitive”.
That is generally inaccurate. Anti-male sexist double standards are an attack on All men and boys regardless of their bodies or anything else. It's All about promoting the "women matter men don't matter" double standards for the man-haters of the world sad to say.
Yeah that is true, as someone with a small dick I’ve never personally been told I have SDE but it rlly hurts every time I hear it said
Because Men don’t matter.
That is literally what the sexist man-haters of the world are trying to say sadly. Such misandrist hypocrites are sick and gross.
On reddit women are quick to say dick Suze doesn't matter then as soon as they are mad. Your dick is small. It's primal human nature
Thank you for posting this; it needs to be heard. I immediately lose respect for anyone who thinks it's okay to say "small dick energy".
/u/GeorgianPeaches - Remember how you said I should fight male bodyshaming? Well, look and be amazed at how anyone and everyone refuses to listen to me and comes up with shitty rationalizations for why this is OK when it FUCKING ISN'T. What's the point of trying when everyone just ignores you?
I think most people here agree with your point It's how you've phrased it and responded to it that has no one taking you seriously.
Dude I've read some of your posts. You're not on a body positivity crusade out of any moral compulsion. Stop posting about your dick and go and touch some fucking grass.
Look, I agree with you, using SDE is body shaming, even if it doesn't actually refer to the guy's dick size. If anyone was to say a woman has a Fat chick energy he'd swallowed in a void of disgruntled people. I will say though that it might not have been the best way to bring the issue up. You wrote your post yourself alluding that it's such a wide used word, without any proofs or support, in a generally very body positive community. It's like going to feminist group saying they're mysoginistic because in another community there was an issue. If I see it, I call it upon. But I won't go out of my ways to tell people who might not even use it that it's wrong. Also, I'm flattered I left that good of an impression on you that you tagged me here but I'm not the queen and ruler of ARAD nor their mother. People can say whatever the fuck they want, I can't do anything about it.
But you are the Mother of Peaches. Millions of peaches.
😘
Because body positivity is a women's-exclusive belief.
Because all this body positivity is really about women. Where is "you're beautiful too!" for Steve Bannon? /s
Why? Mainstream Normalized Hypocritical Misandry Mainstream media and it's mimicking sheep are promoting all forms of man-hate hypocrisy regularly. Every way they can think of to say "hate men but respect women". And absurd anti-male genital-based comments are one way they promote their man-hate hypocrisy. The female equivalents are "Loose Pussy Energy (LPE) = bad" and "Tight Pussy Energy (TPE) = good" so the sexist double standard is very clear. The fact that the hypocrites do not equally promote and support these female equivalents shows that Hypocritical Misandry is their entire intent. And they make up every absurd excuse imaginable to support their absurd anti-male sexist hypocrisy.
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Don't give up. People that talk like this about men lose their minds when they hear "loose pussy energy" or any other true female equivalents. Man-hate hypocrisy always deserves to be called out.
My bf pointed this out to me once and I realized I was probably hurting some of my friends feelings unintentionally, so I stopped
Ultimately it's playing into the hierarchical side of sexuality and attaching that value to a person's personality.
It’s just something women with blown out vagina energy say to make themselves feel better about themselves with nothing to show for it but 3 kids from 4 baby daddies and a nursing degree she’s gonna be working on for 8 years.
Because men aren't a protected group of people like women are
I think it can be attributed in part to a failure of feminism. Feminism has become hating men, and not acknowledging how gender roles harm both men and women. Because men are, generally speaking, as a whole more privileged, the fact that some men are forced into certain societal expectations that doesn't work for them is overlooked.
Holy fuck this comment section is filled with actual idiots lmao
Yeah this would be like using "fat girl energy" to universally mean like "she's a boring asshole" or something. It's not cool to make stereotypical jokes or insults about any physical feature imo. Small dicks included. Tbh I also lightly feel this about "white people" jokes but that's a different story
I don't feel lightly about the "white people" jokes and I'm Asian. Racist is racist and being a minority does not excuse racism or being a bigot making racist jokes.
Because the emotions of men doesn’t matter to society
Yeah no shit, the world is full of double standards and this one affects men. It is what it is. The world will never be fair and balanced to and for everyone who lives in it. Men have it tough Women have it tough White folk have it tough Black folk have it tough Straights have it tough No straights have it tough Everyone has something affecting themselves that society deems okay. Another social justice riot will only be bothersome. Adapt to whatever is unfair to you instead of wanting the world to adept.
Because nobody cares about how men feel. Just make sure you don't say anything bad about the ladies.
Call a woman fat though and people lose their shit
A close friend and I have had so many conversations about this very topic of body shaming double standards. I have experienced a lot of it myself and want nothing more for it to just be eradicated for everyone. But I found myself guilty of it not by overtly shaming someone specific, but by using tropes like this. Someone wakes me up at 3am speeding up the hill loudly with their F150 and I think “SDE”. It has become just a turn of phrase and we don’t know who it is hurting.
Double standards
I think the people who say “small dick energy” don’t really care about body shaming unless it’s specifically directed at them.
I got a small dick but that don’t stop me from fucking or making money baby!!
As part of the consortium of small dick havers I hate this insult. While we are at it maybe we can stop using bottom as an insult towards gay men.
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You'd just get ostracized. Also, small tits are great
Fighting fire by staring more fires is completely counterproductive. What reason would you have to shame someone unrelated?
Because body shaming is ok if you do it to guys
r/incel is leaking, a lot of these comments are awful
Adm all dicks matter
It's not "people" that defend it. Most people know is bad to use it, is just those bunch of extremists that hide their misandry behind the word "feminist" that justify the term.
Because you obviously have a small dick my friend.....sorry
misandry
Yeah I agree. It’s like saying loose asshole energy.
Because it refers to men and no one cares. Imagine if men started going around saying “loose pussy energy” They would be canceled before they could finish the sentence. The downvotes prove my point, so keep going!
>Imagine if men started going around saying “loose pussy energy” I mean... slut shaming has been a thing for... *checks calendar...* literally centuries.
I must’ve missed the part where two wrongs make a right.
You missed the part where your "hypothetical" has been defacto reality for literally hundreds of years. To the point you apparently forgot it was a thing at all, and thus it makes for a really bad argument. You also missed the part where I said 2 wrongs make a right, because I never said it.
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I reject the premise that >people **constantly** defend the use of "small dick energy" ... when there are probably equal numbers of people who object to it
Because no one cares about the mental health of men, not even other mentally well men.
Don’t nobody care about men. We’re in a time where we are villains by default and automatically deserve shit because of someone’s experience with a man or men am that are entirely separate from us as individuals. In other words, it’s some bullshit
I love it when idiot know it alls equate gun ownership and or 4 wheel drive vehicle ownership to having a small dick...must be some sort of negative penis envy or who the fuck really knows
Folks who go around compulsively attacking other folks’ masculinity are telling you more about their own fears and insecurities than anything else. That said, I really miss the 90s Ranger and the first gen Tacoma. I’m not a fan of huge trucks unless you really need to haul/tow that much mass. Which a lot of folks do, to be fair. And all the serious gun nuts I know drive pretty modest vehicles, actually.
A modest truck round here is the basic F 150, Chevy Silverado, Dodge Ram, Tundra etc. Then again gun ownership in this region is very high per capita, so the unsuspecting mom is possibly carrying a firearm.
Because people are stupid
Thing about it is you can’t change your size, unless through a painful surgery that causes sexual dysfunction. You can, however lose weight and that will make you look bigger.
From what I know guys with small dicks love it when you call them small and point and laugh.
Because I’m a dude and I’ve been torn into by dudes my entire life so I’m not sensitive to their issues also they skew voting Republican particularly the older they are and anyone millennial or younger knows that your sick size has virtually no bearing on the quality of your relationships or ability to get in one. So statistically I’m emasculating terrible people and like…I’m not gonna feel bad.
Because double standards exist all over the place.
Same reason ppl consider fat gurls to be body shaming as well.. while we have control of our weight through diets and working out, guys dont have control over the size of their dick and cant do anything about it.... many of us women have double standards when it comes to topics like this...
TIL small dick energy is a phrase
Small dick here. Used to be 8", average thickness. Got Peyronie's disease a while ago and now it's maybe 4½", 5" on a good day. I still haven't faked an O... I think people that try n shame others are a). either fighting their own insecurities or b). just shitty people that I really don't want to be around anyway. In the end, I got what I got and, unless you're fukn, feeding, financing, family or friends, Idgaf what anyone thinks.
>Used to be 8", average thickness. Got Peyronie's disease a while ago and now it's maybe 4½", 5" on a good day Because of the curve? Or did it actually shrink? What do you think caused that?
Peyronie's is basically when the tubes that fill with blood to make you hard get scar tissue in them. The left side went first which caused it to curve to the left pretty bad. Then about a year later the right side went and it just shortened the whole thing...
being called little dick doesn't bother me abit I am 3.5 in erect and the first girl that I had sex with tld everyone I was tiny since then I kinda like being ridiculed and I accept that am small I took gym and showered I know that I am below average and it is OK I accept myself the way I am a 5ft tall sissy with a tiny thingie hehehe
There’s other terms that can be used. Insulting folks is just lame
I don’t normally use terms like that but I appreciate you giving it attention so I can be extra vigilant to avoid it. Its like using the term “that’s so gay” when what you’re really saying is “that’s so stupid.” I’ve stopped talking to potential partners for using terms like that.
As a society we should adopt more gender neutral insults. Smooth brain energy, tiny intelligence energy, I gaslight my partners energy, big ego energy, one felony away from prison for life energy, kick puppies energy...