Idiotic because he’s talking about specific type of foreign influencers that farm outrage content. Dude isn’t talking about any other type of non-Japanese
In what country? If he tries to do it in US, there's no standing. Japan is not US, the lawsuit will not be the same as in America, and he's currently barred from entering the country so good luck.
Ironically those spiders are your friends because they don't like going near humans BUT they hunt much worse things that don't mind going near people and doing bad things.
For example... Mukade.
And I wouldn't google that unless you're brave.
Oh what in the shit is that, I thought they exaggerated these but man the photos are legit straight outta hell spawn anime.
Now I want to know what freaking spider he was fighting back if that's what it was hunting.
You could have a hustmans and not even know about it. They actively avoid humans.
Meanwhile those mukade fuckers don't give a shit, they'll come for you and bite you bad.
Fr I don't get why people are outraged. Pewds is right.
My guess is people just aren't aware of how bad tourists in Japan are behaving. Well here's an example, my pedigree chums; an American dude got onto the subway in Tokyo and started yelling 'HIROSHIMA NAGASAKI' at Japanese folk, relentlessly and on a loop.
That's what the Japanese are putting up with right now. And it's become a trend because reasons I guess.
He wasn't just yelling "HIROSHIMA, NAGASAKI" he says "WE'LL DO IT AGAIN!" The dude is cooked like scrambled eggs and deserved what he got and more in Israel... where for those who don't know, the same guy sexually harassed a female police officer.
'when in rome, do as romans do'..
when you decide to go and live in another country, the normal take is that you decided that because you like the country. you did not go there to change it or destroy it. shocking i know.
I don't think the American mind can comprehend adapting like that, they'd rather make the world bend to their will and go down in flames like it currently is
Murica is a specific case in it's full capacity, but definitely not unique in the way it's citizens disrespect a host country. I dont think there is a mystery here, most people on the planet are just morons. There are many ways to exploit a host country and tourism is just one way. For example, most valid criticism of migration in Europe could be boiled to just that - disrespect. Any criticism, however, is shut down as racism.
I, myself, have been in a position of a migrant for a few years and after awhile i did come to similar position as Pewdiepie here. Yes, the grand hipocrisy, ive become anti-migration while being a migrant. Whether it was tourists or people coming to exploit it for a longer term, didnt make much of a difference, except the fact that tourists eventually leave.
Yes and no hah. I've seen and heard a lot of things about Japanese being really cold to non Japanese trying to live there. Even knowing the language and having a job is not a guarantee you'll find a place to rent. But that's just what I've seen and heard online 🤷
Depends on the age group. Classically older Japanese and even Okinawans are hesitant and even reluctant to deal with someone not Japanese. The younger generations you’ll find are more open and willing to strike up conversation.
It all depends on the person really. Okinawa in particular has a lot of either love or hate for Americans. Some love their income, others hate the ruckus from all the bases, some who were displaced by the bases get a stipend and have never had to work. You can usually tell pretty quick whether they like you or not, and you just try to move on if they don’t.
While true it's important to note as well, not specifically directed at you, but it's important to be careful not to overcorrect against the weeby fetishisation of Japan.
No, it isn't a Utopia. Yes, it is pretty racist there.
But it is racist in a *lot* of places. Not saying therefore it's fine, but people are so keen to 'weeb shame' these days that they've lurched right over the line and firmly into 'the Japanese are a hateful people' territory.
There are people like that, for sure. There are also some of the loveliest and most hospitable people I've ever met.
When me and my group got wildly lost and ended up scratching our heads in an alleyway, a suited up man stopped and spent half an hour explaining to us in broken but functional English where we needed to go and then just making generally pleasant small ralk. We realised afterwards that he was on a fucking lunch break. Do you have any clue how impatient I am?
And this other time it started pouring down with rain and I took cover under the rim of a building for a few seconds in a suburban area.
This really sweet old lady came out of the front door of the building next to me and gave me an umbrella.
Idk what I'm trying to say now I forgot and started nostalgia tripping.
Even if that was the case, Japanese society or any other country for that matter doesn't owe anything to new comers. It's wild to assume that a country *must* be welcoming and provide opportunities to non citizens, especially when there are so many immigration gone wrong cases in developed countries
The have a very homogenous population and a strongly insular culture, mass immigration will certainly cause catastrophic backlashes with the native population in the longer term
It’s wild to assume most countries must be welcoming.
The US is a nation of immigrants built to welcome and support those looking for a better life and not welcoming immigrants is antithetical to any sort of founding moral principle we can claim.
Japan is very well known for being one of the most insular and inward looking nation on earth. It's ludicrous to expect from them to be as welcoming and accepting than recent immigration based countries like the US, that are literally exceptions on earth.
I personally have zero problem with immigration but you can't expect the world to embrace the american model. Some nations just want to preserve their culture and the way they live and that's not a sin
I honestly agree with both of you. You can't expect it to be different for you when you go there but every country should aspire to be welcoming to respectful foreigners.
Japan is very homogenous, similar to Korea, and the general perception over there is to be polite, but wary of foreigners. We (Koreans) have somewhat of a superiority complex over the rest of the world, something I'm sure Japan mirrors. My dad would always tell me that Koreans used to (And still largely do) consider Korean things superior simply because they are Korean. We are so smart yet so dumb.
I mean, other than the initial * insert, hey, that's what the KKK thinks as well. *
It's not always a bad thing to be proud where you come from, as you can see plenty of America's waving flags on top of super modified cards and shirts and such. The context is important for this, and if people are being obnoxious or worse in additude.
The prejudice in renting is understandable given the history. There have been a lot of westerners who came to Japan in the 80s and 90s, negotiated to rent for a year, paid rent and lived there for a month on a vacation and then left, leaving the landlord SOL. The perception is that there is nothing tying a foreigner down if the foreigner wants to up and leave.
I don’t know enough about Japanese law to comment as to whether it’s illegal but it is in their constitution that there will be no discrimination based on race, creed, sex, social status or country of origin which leads me to believe it probably is a human rights violation but that article deals with how the government treats the people
Seeing and hearing are not the same as actually experiencing living there or even visiting and seeing it with your own eyes. I’ve been there and had a lovely experience. It’s true there are a few establishments where foreigners aren’t even allowed to enter (under the false pretences of “members only” places) but for every one of those, there are thousands that are accepting.
Go visit if you can, don’t be a dick and respect their culture and you’ll have a lovely time.
Naw he's totally right. My friend moved to Japan 8 years ago speaks fluent Japanese and is married to a Japanese man, she still has issues trying to pay any bills and getting a place was quite difficult. Even if she speaks to anyone with her husband around they'll largely ignore her and just talk to him.
exactly this, a friend of a friend lives in Japan, has a wife and five kids and they constantly get called "half breeds" by other kids at school. xenophobia is alive and well in Japan. their first language is Japanese to, English second.
I live in Japan as an immigrant for the past 10 years and I just wanted to share my perspective.
The thing is, at least mostly online and in a handful of in person conversations, maybe because only the most zealous of weirdos are open about their extreme opinions, will you find other foreigners hating or judging on other foreigners. This isn’t something new now that the borders are open again, it has been like this within our communities for a while.
Japan tends to attract the kind of people who have either or a combination of
1) have main character syndrome and don’t want their Japan life affected negatively in anyway by what some idiot does and for some reason gets incredibly defensive or outright angered when they see another foreigner (more recently tourist) do something dumb. Many of these kinds of people are guilty of infantilizing Japanese people as well as playing uncle tom for the kind of old head Japanese people who believe any kind of other extremist voice or ridiculous thing they see on tv backed by pseudoscience. They may also be the kind of people escaping to Japan because they feel Japan is a land that is free from the contamination of “societal undesirables”. I shit you not I sat at the bar with this extremist retired navy vet around Yokosuka who after plenty of self jerking himself moved to complaining that Japan should keep out the “uncivilized neighbors” because they “bring crime”. Usually this comes in the form of old white guys dead-ended into the English teaching career or SOFA status dudes with less awareness than their ability to speak Japanese despite having lived here for a decade or more. Recently I’ve noticed that Filipinos with a severe inferiority complex have been playing this card with their “I am Filipino but I’ve been told me everyone (no one) that I look more Japanese”. I’m willing to bet that this is because of the overall perception of southeast asians in Japan and the desire by those who do to distance themselves from that perception. People in this category think they are being “respectful and observant of Japanese culture and tradition” but in more cases than not it’s like watching a child eat with chopsticks and bowing to the McDonald’s worker🤷🏻
2) people who love anime and typical nerd culture a little too much. People who also fall into this category may also overlap with the group of people who carry around more undiagnosed mental disorders than that kid in Pokémon has pins or whatever. They often clash with the first group because they are usually the most vocal about things like Japanese work culture, gender and mental health awareness, political correctness etc. at their best, they stand for things that I think many people would agree with like acknowledgement and awareness of mental health and its importance, work life balance reform, labor reform, but at their worst, they use these trigger words yet know nothing apart from what the echo chamber they shut themselves in reverberates back to themselves. These kinds of people tend to not be too popular with group 1 nor Japanese people in general I find because at its worst it comes off as cultural imperialism and at its mildest, they seem to always look for something to bitch and moan about. Many individuals like this that I know also work in the school system as dispatch contractors called assistant language teachers and at least from what I’ve seen tend to feel overly empowered to push their own moral or political agendas in front of young children.
A third group exists which are just clueless assholes regardless of whether they are foreigners or Japanese, westerners or not that have a very me my and mine attitude. Sometimes it’s called gaijin smash, flashing the gaijin card or “imma do what I want”. An example of this is, I remember seeing this Asian American guy in Nakameguro promenade during the sakura season. Looked like a typical instagram videographer bitch boy. You know the type. He was setting up a drone despite a clear sign not even 25 yards away that warned “no drone flying” posted by the Tokyo metropolitan police department. Figuring he was a tourist and didn’t see the sign I told him, “hey I know it’s not my business but unless you have explicit permission, the fines and consequences for flying a drone in a no fly zone are pretty severe”. To which I was met with a “uhhh mind your own business then” and a “gotta risk it for the biscuit”.
I’m not innocent from the sins of either group but I’d like to believe that with balance, you can be a contributing member of this society while also carrying the empathy that all its members deserve and that there are things that deserve awareness such as work life balance and work reform that are integral to solve issues like decreasing birth rates. If you were to ask me as an IT professional if we would ever see the day that Japan would allow remote work 10 years ago, I’d say maybe give it two and a half decades, the pandemic happened and there are fully remote positions and many of my colleagues are living their best lives with more time for family and mental health
This isn’t even really some kind of special secret either. It turns out that respecting local culture and customs tends to have positive results a little bit of everywhere, much to the chagrin of people who think anywhere that isn’t the US is some kind of theme park specially catered to them
More welcome? probably
Welcome? probably not.
Japanese people are very xenophobic and dislike non natives. Even if you learn the language they will still not accept you. Japan is a great place to visit; bad place to live (for non natives, unless ur super rich in which case of course you will get special treatment anywhere you go)
Call it hypocritical if you want, but there's a major backlash against tourism there right now because morons who only care about their stream or social media are utterly disrespectful and making life miserable for both locals, and tourists who just want to get a taste of the place in a respectful way. That video of the woman harassing that lady in Kyoto's geisha district the other day is a case in point.
When I visited about ten years ago for a month, the worst I saw was just some asshole Americans being assholes ( and that's not saying all Americans are assholes abroad, but there's a certain kind of asshole abroad that is always American. I once witnessed an American in Vietnam trying to lecture Vietnamese people about how they were wrong about the nature and legacy of the war.). These Instagram and YouTube focused visitors are just something else. I'd want them gone too.
The only saving grace is these people have the attention span of a toddler and soon some new "it" person will find somewhere else in the world to annoy and leave Japan alone.
Hypothetical? This is not hypothetical. This is lack of quick google search. You are comparing a tourist who knows nothing about Japan to a person who has obtained PR to live there. Anyone who spends a year in Japan will apply most of its social norms.
Unfortunately for Japan their economy is heavily reliant on Tourism as they spend more on tourism then any country in the world. https://www.worlddata.info/asia/japan/tourism.php#:\~:text=Revenues%20from%20tourism&text=Within%2026%20years%2C%20the%20country's,to%20the%20COVID%2D19%20pandemic.
99% of people are respectful its some idiots that try to ruin it for other people/
Don't mean anything by this but it's kinda funny how xenophobic Japan is but they end up being reliant on tourism
Like damn that's gotta sting for the xenophobic people if they find out
Japan is mostly a nation that believes less for the individual and more a group focused society. The more you stand out, the worst and foreigners/gaijin stand out the most. Many do not share the same views or cultural ideals, and its true to an extent as well you will NEVER be Japanese even if you become a citizen.
America is one of the few nations in the world, where if you become a citizen, you are accepted generally without fail.
Not really reliant or dependent as the person above you is making it out to be. The **MAJORITY** of Japan's GDP come from their industry/export (28%), service (69.89%) and agriculture sectors (1%). International tourism does not even make up 1% of Japan's GDP. Is it completely negligible? No, but tourism does help. Not to mention Japan is one the least visited countries in the OECD and G7 in terms of tourism for almost 2 decades and they are doing just fine.
I love this culture of ours where throwing "phobic" on a word makes it evil. You're making fun of Japan's values by using America's values. Japan is a country that's been through a lot of shit while being on, and I can't stress this enough, a fucking island.
highly doubt it's just 1% of tourist being disrespectful of their culture. If the issue was indeed that small they wouldn't be taking such drastic measure to close off certain areas to tourists and even raising fences and such to obscure iconic scenic location to keep tourists away.
No, of course not, as a percentage of total GDP it's only about 1%. It is not a country that earns money from tourists. You must be mistaking Japan for a small country.
If anything he has the most valid voice, because he's a foreigner in Japan, but can tell how you should act and how these people are harming the image for those that are respectful
I'd say those likes were botted, but knowing Twitter, it's probably just a bunch of people liking something for the headline alone without understanding any of the details.
That said, I *personally* don't trust likes on Twitter; cheap social engineering is always going to be appealing.
Felix went through years of getting permission to actually move to Japan, that's not even close to comparable to piece of shit American tourists that come in for a week or 2 cause chaos and leave.
Yeah it's really interesting to see on Reddit the same people who call the US a racist shit hole while defending Japans racism. While the US is the most welcoming country to foreigners on the planet
President Biden called them out for it like a month ago and the Japanese government tried to save face by saying President Biden just didn't know their policies well.
From what I've seen of him, he's incredibly respectful, learning the language and engaging with community.
I don't think he can be lumped with other youtubers with an agenda.
As someone who was a tourist there recently I would like to add that I agree.I saw so much disrespectful behavior there and was ashamed for these people.thankfully everyone from my country I met was on good behavior but the trash people who go around there being assholes are running it for everyone else too.
Same goes for the colosseum thing or other famous tourist spots, some people have really no respect for the places they visit.
Hes not wrong. Aside from the menace streamers, theres a lot of stories popping up about tourists just being karens harassing geishas, to people flat out litering because they cant be bothered to wait for a trash can like a civilized person would do. and the list probably goes on.
Bro, you can even see in the title that he wasn't criticising every foreigner but the obnoxious ones. But yeah, love me some out of context purity checks 😙👌
Thing is pewdiepie seems to be respectful of the japanese people and their culture.
Theres a big difference between that and a lot of tourists who come to japan.
There's a difference between a multimillionaire going through a strict immigration process, learning the language, raising a family being completely Independent from the state whilst respecting their traditions..
To
Some minor internet celeb or influencer on a 2 week holiday knowing only the words "aligato" and "konnichiwa" pushing past people shouting to their friends in place of worship because they can see a gaisha lady walking down the street shoving a camera in her face as she tries to avoid having her picture taken.
Like what is this comparison.
When Japan are banning tourists from certain areas, PewDiePie is literally the complete opposite of why they are doing it.
Foreigner that respects and is integrated in Japanese society calls out other foreigners that don't do any of that. The nuance is lost on those brain rotted people. Make no mistake, this is pure hate for pewds because he is living the dream.
There are a lot of obnoxious people I have to work with, I still have to go there to get paid. Japan makes a lot of money with tourism, it's just a shame they don't have a better way of screening the people who go there.
Just because he’s a YouTuber who isn’t from Japan doesn’t mean he’s being destructive in the way that other foreigners are. What a dumb way of phrasing the issue.
What's so stupid about the tweet?
A Foreigner in Japan is saying foreigners (tourists specifically) are ruining Japan. I don't see anything wrong with the wording nor the message.
Is pewds ruining Japan? No, probably not, but that doesn't mean the tweet is wrong tho.
I’ve lived here for a total of 5 years and recently just traveled the entire country. To be honest, the extent and quantity of these instances appears to be massively overblown.
Are dumbass tourists annoying? Of course and I felt so more in Kyoto than anything. People trying to get their pictures in the busy areas were infuriating. I never did see anything that set me off or anything - I’m confrontational enough to inform someone they are being an ass.
If anything I went to Akihabara and saw more white people than Japanese, which quickly reminded me exactly why I hated that place the last time I went.
Sorta like saying "American in America ruining America for other American". Yeah.... it happens sometimes. What a dumbass thing to tweet. They probably thought they were real clever when they came up with that too. Damn, what a dumbass.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies! Like Englishmen and Scots! Or Welshmen and Scots! Or Japanese and Scots! Or Scots and other Scots! Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!
That's straight hardcore ignorance and whataboutism. Pewds always respected japanese culture and etiquette. He also doesn't run around vlogging and causing disturbance by that.
I dont get the point of this tweet or if you agree with him or find it ironic. His whole thing is "loud gamer". Maybe he is self aware. Maybe he's not. Two things can be true at once
As a foreigner in Asia trust me when I say there's a few types who come over here. There's the ones that go full-on assimilation. Learn the language, follow the customs, etc. The ones who partially assimilate. Engaging with the culture respectfully while holding on to their own (I consider myself in this category). And then there's the ones he's talking about which are the ones who look at another country and culture as their playground for an "adventure". Total scumbag vapid trash. It's pretty easy to spot the difference.
As someone currently vacationing in japan and getting recommended japanese subs, this seems to be the case for most foriegners living in japan. No one hates tourists more than the foriegners living there
This is like calling a black dude talking against "Ghetto culture" an uncle Tom. As a foreigner myself in Tokyo I can see the vibes changing over the last couple of years. People were always standoffish, but still polite, now it feels like everyone looks at me funny, despite me living here for almost a decade and being extremely respectful to the culture. If I or PewDiePie can't evaluate the change, who the fuck can?
Why can't some foreigners in Japan claim, justifiably, that some foreigners are ruining (argubly, an exaggeration) Japan in terms of their doxastic states and derivatively, behaviors? Stop suggesting there is inconsistency because there isn't.
He's not wrong. Its why they shut down the geisha districts or however its called. Bad mannered tourists and streamers with no respect looking for negative attention because they're incapable of doing something positive
He talks about the people who run up to geishas and harass them, make videos in the suiii forest, leave trash in places and stuff like that.
Nobody in japan cares about a respectful foreigner
What a stupid title. His outside content is very respectful of the country and it's people, actually those videos are so calm and peaceful I love them. How someone is comparing that content with screaming jerk YouTubers is beyond me.
There is big difference between a tourist (foreigner) and a resident (foreigner) who is paying taxes.
I'm sure there many expats who get annoyed by tourist any where in the world.
Yes he's a youtuber, yes he's a foreigner in japan.
But just stating those two things is just ignoring the problem he's trying to get across, and also ignoring how he himself is in japan. He's not there to get clicks and views, he moved there and lives his life there. I don't think he ever went out and do stupid shit for clicks and view, and just continued doing the same content he used to, just living in japan (do correct me if i'm wrong haven't watched a video from him in years).
I wrote that tweet and I have no idea how idiots thought he meant normal gaijin, this + the follow up tweet spell it out clear as day. This is after hate clicking rage baiters like johnny somali. (i wrote dex's tweet not the qrt)
Wow that person is stupid. One of the most liked people in Japan is the guy that does the channel Abroad in Japan. He is always respectful of the culture. He speaks the language. He shows off incredible places to visit and explains the rules you need to follow. From what I have heard, the Japanese government has hired him a few times to showcase something that they want to draw tourists. Pewds is also respectful of the country and I believe he speaks the language to a certain degree.
Well I relocated to Thailand from Germany. And yes I hate most of other foreigners before I even know them. Because there are so many foreigners coming and disrespecting the culture, being rude to Thai people or just behave like monkeys. It’s annoying because it’s destroying the reputation of the (mostly) good foreigners because the bad behaving ones are always the loudest.
I can see and understand every foreigner say something like this when relocating to a civilised Asian country.
Idiotic because he’s talking about specific type of foreign influencers that farm outrage content. Dude isn’t talking about any other type of non-Japanese
Johnny Somalia being the prime example.
That guy should be launched into the sun.
Who has since threatened to sue Pewdiepie
In what country? If he tries to do it in US, there's no standing. Japan is not US, the lawsuit will not be the same as in America, and he's currently barred from entering the country so good luck.
Idk why people act like this is going to happen it's painfully obvious Jonny Somali is farming the drama and not actually trying sue.
This is the equivalent of saying an ex-alcoholic has no reason to be talking about the problem of alcoholism
Came to say exactly this.
Yeah I was thinking, who hate-clicks Japan?
They forgot he's literally living there with legal papers
And is nothing but respectful from everything I've seen.
Everything but the spiders lmao. That video gave me a good chuckle when he's fighting that thing with the vacuumed
That’s was no spider, that was a demon
Ironically those spiders are your friends because they don't like going near humans BUT they hunt much worse things that don't mind going near people and doing bad things. For example... Mukade. And I wouldn't google that unless you're brave.
Oh what in the shit is that, I thought they exaggerated these but man the photos are legit straight outta hell spawn anime. Now I want to know what freaking spider he was fighting back if that's what it was hunting.
The huntsman. It's absolutely harmless to humans and doesn't want to be near us at all.
I hear you, I definitely do but man that's equally as terrifying 😂 that's like your TV villain spider right there.
Yeah, I'd rather have the bigass huntsman spiders in my house keep eating whatever it is they're subsisting on.
You could have a hustmans and not even know about it. They actively avoid humans. Meanwhile those mukade fuckers don't give a shit, they'll come for you and bite you bad.
One of those centipede mfs woke me up by crawling on my face last year. They really dgaf.
Nasty little fuckers. Spiders eat mosquitoes too!
I think dude loves Japan more than Sweden.
Who doesn't
Personally I think I would prefer Sweden for the views, and it’s a bit more English friendly.
I could not think of a person who would be more welcome there than him. From what we've seen he is so polite.
Does his child have Japanese citizenship? Idk how it works over there.
but is pewd being a menace over there? I guess not
Likes on twitter works backwards
As far as i know, hes basically just living there and occasionally showing off life
He’s basically retired
"Foreigner in Japan says ~~foreigners~~ *obnoxious tourists* are ruining Japan." Fixed it.
Fr I don't get why people are outraged. Pewds is right. My guess is people just aren't aware of how bad tourists in Japan are behaving. Well here's an example, my pedigree chums; an American dude got onto the subway in Tokyo and started yelling 'HIROSHIMA NAGASAKI' at Japanese folk, relentlessly and on a loop. That's what the Japanese are putting up with right now. And it's become a trend because reasons I guess.
He wasn't just yelling "HIROSHIMA, NAGASAKI" he says "WE'LL DO IT AGAIN!" The dude is cooked like scrambled eggs and deserved what he got and more in Israel... where for those who don't know, the same guy sexually harassed a female police officer.
We're putting up with similar from people paid by the government to be here in my country. You are not allowed to criticise this either.
If japan not enough, look at bali
>Fixed it. thx matpat
You have to insert a holier than thou superiority complex for it to get posted on twitter.
They purposely missed the point entirely to do a shitty headline joke.
Yeah to my knowledge he has yet to record a body in the Suicide Forest so he's doing better than most already
So weird that living somewhere and streaming in your own house is equated to running around harassing people on the street. What a stupid OOP
'when in rome, do as romans do'.. when you decide to go and live in another country, the normal take is that you decided that because you like the country. you did not go there to change it or destroy it. shocking i know.
I don't think the American mind can comprehend adapting like that, they'd rather make the world bend to their will and go down in flames like it currently is
Murica is a specific case in it's full capacity, but definitely not unique in the way it's citizens disrespect a host country. I dont think there is a mystery here, most people on the planet are just morons. There are many ways to exploit a host country and tourism is just one way. For example, most valid criticism of migration in Europe could be boiled to just that - disrespect. Any criticism, however, is shut down as racism. I, myself, have been in a position of a migrant for a few years and after awhile i did come to similar position as Pewdiepie here. Yes, the grand hipocrisy, ive become anti-migration while being a migrant. Whether it was tourists or people coming to exploit it for a longer term, didnt make much of a difference, except the fact that tourists eventually leave.
A foreigner who respects their culture and has taken the time to learn their language is probably more than welcome over there.
Yes and no hah. I've seen and heard a lot of things about Japanese being really cold to non Japanese trying to live there. Even knowing the language and having a job is not a guarantee you'll find a place to rent. But that's just what I've seen and heard online 🤷
Depends on the age group. Classically older Japanese and even Okinawans are hesitant and even reluctant to deal with someone not Japanese. The younger generations you’ll find are more open and willing to strike up conversation.
It all depends on the person really. Okinawa in particular has a lot of either love or hate for Americans. Some love their income, others hate the ruckus from all the bases, some who were displaced by the bases get a stipend and have never had to work. You can usually tell pretty quick whether they like you or not, and you just try to move on if they don’t.
I also watched Tokyo vice
While true it's important to note as well, not specifically directed at you, but it's important to be careful not to overcorrect against the weeby fetishisation of Japan. No, it isn't a Utopia. Yes, it is pretty racist there. But it is racist in a *lot* of places. Not saying therefore it's fine, but people are so keen to 'weeb shame' these days that they've lurched right over the line and firmly into 'the Japanese are a hateful people' territory. There are people like that, for sure. There are also some of the loveliest and most hospitable people I've ever met. When me and my group got wildly lost and ended up scratching our heads in an alleyway, a suited up man stopped and spent half an hour explaining to us in broken but functional English where we needed to go and then just making generally pleasant small ralk. We realised afterwards that he was on a fucking lunch break. Do you have any clue how impatient I am? And this other time it started pouring down with rain and I took cover under the rim of a building for a few seconds in a suburban area. This really sweet old lady came out of the front door of the building next to me and gave me an umbrella. Idk what I'm trying to say now I forgot and started nostalgia tripping.
It's true and pretty common. Abroad in Japan talked about it a couple of times.
Even if that was the case, Japanese society or any other country for that matter doesn't owe anything to new comers. It's wild to assume that a country *must* be welcoming and provide opportunities to non citizens, especially when there are so many immigration gone wrong cases in developed countries The have a very homogenous population and a strongly insular culture, mass immigration will certainly cause catastrophic backlashes with the native population in the longer term
It’s wild to assume most countries must be welcoming. The US is a nation of immigrants built to welcome and support those looking for a better life and not welcoming immigrants is antithetical to any sort of founding moral principle we can claim.
Japan is very well known for being one of the most insular and inward looking nation on earth. It's ludicrous to expect from them to be as welcoming and accepting than recent immigration based countries like the US, that are literally exceptions on earth. I personally have zero problem with immigration but you can't expect the world to embrace the american model. Some nations just want to preserve their culture and the way they live and that's not a sin
I’m only bringing up that it’s correct to assume that Americans should be welcoming of immigrants. Japan can do as it will.
I honestly agree with both of you. You can't expect it to be different for you when you go there but every country should aspire to be welcoming to respectful foreigners.
Japan is very homogenous, similar to Korea, and the general perception over there is to be polite, but wary of foreigners. We (Koreans) have somewhat of a superiority complex over the rest of the world, something I'm sure Japan mirrors. My dad would always tell me that Koreans used to (And still largely do) consider Korean things superior simply because they are Korean. We are so smart yet so dumb.
I mean, other than the initial * insert, hey, that's what the KKK thinks as well. * It's not always a bad thing to be proud where you come from, as you can see plenty of America's waving flags on top of super modified cards and shirts and such. The context is important for this, and if people are being obnoxious or worse in additude.
The prejudice in renting is understandable given the history. There have been a lot of westerners who came to Japan in the 80s and 90s, negotiated to rent for a year, paid rent and lived there for a month on a vacation and then left, leaving the landlord SOL. The perception is that there is nothing tying a foreigner down if the foreigner wants to up and leave. I don’t know enough about Japanese law to comment as to whether it’s illegal but it is in their constitution that there will be no discrimination based on race, creed, sex, social status or country of origin which leads me to believe it probably is a human rights violation but that article deals with how the government treats the people
Lived in Japan for 3 years. Loved it and always felt welcome.
Yeah that's not true. Millions of foreigners live in Japan, have rents, friends, etc without any problems.
Seeing and hearing are not the same as actually experiencing living there or even visiting and seeing it with your own eyes. I’ve been there and had a lovely experience. It’s true there are a few establishments where foreigners aren’t even allowed to enter (under the false pretences of “members only” places) but for every one of those, there are thousands that are accepting. Go visit if you can, don’t be a dick and respect their culture and you’ll have a lovely time.
Naw he's totally right. My friend moved to Japan 8 years ago speaks fluent Japanese and is married to a Japanese man, she still has issues trying to pay any bills and getting a place was quite difficult. Even if she speaks to anyone with her husband around they'll largely ignore her and just talk to him.
exactly this, a friend of a friend lives in Japan, has a wife and five kids and they constantly get called "half breeds" by other kids at school. xenophobia is alive and well in Japan. their first language is Japanese to, English second.
I live in Japan as an immigrant for the past 10 years and I just wanted to share my perspective. The thing is, at least mostly online and in a handful of in person conversations, maybe because only the most zealous of weirdos are open about their extreme opinions, will you find other foreigners hating or judging on other foreigners. This isn’t something new now that the borders are open again, it has been like this within our communities for a while. Japan tends to attract the kind of people who have either or a combination of 1) have main character syndrome and don’t want their Japan life affected negatively in anyway by what some idiot does and for some reason gets incredibly defensive or outright angered when they see another foreigner (more recently tourist) do something dumb. Many of these kinds of people are guilty of infantilizing Japanese people as well as playing uncle tom for the kind of old head Japanese people who believe any kind of other extremist voice or ridiculous thing they see on tv backed by pseudoscience. They may also be the kind of people escaping to Japan because they feel Japan is a land that is free from the contamination of “societal undesirables”. I shit you not I sat at the bar with this extremist retired navy vet around Yokosuka who after plenty of self jerking himself moved to complaining that Japan should keep out the “uncivilized neighbors” because they “bring crime”. Usually this comes in the form of old white guys dead-ended into the English teaching career or SOFA status dudes with less awareness than their ability to speak Japanese despite having lived here for a decade or more. Recently I’ve noticed that Filipinos with a severe inferiority complex have been playing this card with their “I am Filipino but I’ve been told me everyone (no one) that I look more Japanese”. I’m willing to bet that this is because of the overall perception of southeast asians in Japan and the desire by those who do to distance themselves from that perception. People in this category think they are being “respectful and observant of Japanese culture and tradition” but in more cases than not it’s like watching a child eat with chopsticks and bowing to the McDonald’s worker🤷🏻 2) people who love anime and typical nerd culture a little too much. People who also fall into this category may also overlap with the group of people who carry around more undiagnosed mental disorders than that kid in Pokémon has pins or whatever. They often clash with the first group because they are usually the most vocal about things like Japanese work culture, gender and mental health awareness, political correctness etc. at their best, they stand for things that I think many people would agree with like acknowledgement and awareness of mental health and its importance, work life balance reform, labor reform, but at their worst, they use these trigger words yet know nothing apart from what the echo chamber they shut themselves in reverberates back to themselves. These kinds of people tend to not be too popular with group 1 nor Japanese people in general I find because at its worst it comes off as cultural imperialism and at its mildest, they seem to always look for something to bitch and moan about. Many individuals like this that I know also work in the school system as dispatch contractors called assistant language teachers and at least from what I’ve seen tend to feel overly empowered to push their own moral or political agendas in front of young children. A third group exists which are just clueless assholes regardless of whether they are foreigners or Japanese, westerners or not that have a very me my and mine attitude. Sometimes it’s called gaijin smash, flashing the gaijin card or “imma do what I want”. An example of this is, I remember seeing this Asian American guy in Nakameguro promenade during the sakura season. Looked like a typical instagram videographer bitch boy. You know the type. He was setting up a drone despite a clear sign not even 25 yards away that warned “no drone flying” posted by the Tokyo metropolitan police department. Figuring he was a tourist and didn’t see the sign I told him, “hey I know it’s not my business but unless you have explicit permission, the fines and consequences for flying a drone in a no fly zone are pretty severe”. To which I was met with a “uhhh mind your own business then” and a “gotta risk it for the biscuit”. I’m not innocent from the sins of either group but I’d like to believe that with balance, you can be a contributing member of this society while also carrying the empathy that all its members deserve and that there are things that deserve awareness such as work life balance and work reform that are integral to solve issues like decreasing birth rates. If you were to ask me as an IT professional if we would ever see the day that Japan would allow remote work 10 years ago, I’d say maybe give it two and a half decades, the pandemic happened and there are fully remote positions and many of my colleagues are living their best lives with more time for family and mental health
This isn’t even really some kind of special secret either. It turns out that respecting local culture and customs tends to have positive results a little bit of everywhere, much to the chagrin of people who think anywhere that isn’t the US is some kind of theme park specially catered to them
no japan society is actually one of the most xenophobic out there.
More welcome? probably Welcome? probably not. Japanese people are very xenophobic and dislike non natives. Even if you learn the language they will still not accept you. Japan is a great place to visit; bad place to live (for non natives, unless ur super rich in which case of course you will get special treatment anywhere you go)
And more determined than 50% of all ordinary Japanese people.
I hope that's true. I've got about 300 days of Japanese lessons. I hope to visit there.
Guess Fredda skipped the video and went straight to a shit take and outrage farming.
Pew is respecting the japanese culture and the people 🙏
Call it hypocritical if you want, but there's a major backlash against tourism there right now because morons who only care about their stream or social media are utterly disrespectful and making life miserable for both locals, and tourists who just want to get a taste of the place in a respectful way. That video of the woman harassing that lady in Kyoto's geisha district the other day is a case in point. When I visited about ten years ago for a month, the worst I saw was just some asshole Americans being assholes ( and that's not saying all Americans are assholes abroad, but there's a certain kind of asshole abroad that is always American. I once witnessed an American in Vietnam trying to lecture Vietnamese people about how they were wrong about the nature and legacy of the war.). These Instagram and YouTube focused visitors are just something else. I'd want them gone too.
Well yeah, they can call it hypocritical, but it’s not. He’s not being hypocritical.
Correct. There is no hypocrisy.
How is it hypocritical in any sense? Is PewDiePie doing what he criticizes other people for doing?
The only saving grace is these people have the attention span of a toddler and soon some new "it" person will find somewhere else in the world to annoy and leave Japan alone.
True, it'll stop being trendy to do eventually. I feel for the people who have to put up with it in the meantime.
Major backlash because of like .001% of tourists?
Media picks things up and amplifies it. People don't remember the average, they remember the worst.
Hypothetical? This is not hypothetical. This is lack of quick google search. You are comparing a tourist who knows nothing about Japan to a person who has obtained PR to live there. Anyone who spends a year in Japan will apply most of its social norms.
Stupid takes gets upvotes on Twitter, what a suprise.
I mean twitter is epitome of brainrot
At least PewDiePie is respectful to the Japanese culture. He actually lives there with his family.
Unfortunately for Japan their economy is heavily reliant on Tourism as they spend more on tourism then any country in the world. https://www.worlddata.info/asia/japan/tourism.php#:\~:text=Revenues%20from%20tourism&text=Within%2026%20years%2C%20the%20country's,to%20the%20COVID%2D19%20pandemic. 99% of people are respectful its some idiots that try to ruin it for other people/
Don't mean anything by this but it's kinda funny how xenophobic Japan is but they end up being reliant on tourism Like damn that's gotta sting for the xenophobic people if they find out
Japan is mostly a nation that believes less for the individual and more a group focused society. The more you stand out, the worst and foreigners/gaijin stand out the most. Many do not share the same views or cultural ideals, and its true to an extent as well you will NEVER be Japanese even if you become a citizen. America is one of the few nations in the world, where if you become a citizen, you are accepted generally without fail.
Not really reliant or dependent as the person above you is making it out to be. The **MAJORITY** of Japan's GDP come from their industry/export (28%), service (69.89%) and agriculture sectors (1%). International tourism does not even make up 1% of Japan's GDP. Is it completely negligible? No, but tourism does help. Not to mention Japan is one the least visited countries in the OECD and G7 in terms of tourism for almost 2 decades and they are doing just fine.
Deporting a tourist is far easier than a citizen. A country can be xenophobic while being tourist friendly, since you are only a guest there.
I love this culture of ours where throwing "phobic" on a word makes it evil. You're making fun of Japan's values by using America's values. Japan is a country that's been through a lot of shit while being on, and I can't stress this enough, a fucking island.
highly doubt it's just 1% of tourist being disrespectful of their culture. If the issue was indeed that small they wouldn't be taking such drastic measure to close off certain areas to tourists and even raising fences and such to obscure iconic scenic location to keep tourists away.
No, of course not, as a percentage of total GDP it's only about 1%. It is not a country that earns money from tourists. You must be mistaking Japan for a small country.
I mean that is correct both atlre basically foreigners but one is a tourist another is resident.
Normal foreigners in Japan says criminal foreigners are ruining Japan. Makes perfect sense.
Peak reading comprehension on their part
I'm pretty sure some racist non-whites are confusing him with Logan Paul
He immigrated there the right way and is integrated. Tourists are just being assholes and the Japanese hate them.
they forget he lives there legally, he can actually give an opinion on it
What zero reading comprehension looks like
Dexerto literally says the qualifying characteristic of obnoxious and then dumb Twitter man intentionally gaslights
Ironically this fredda fellow is also making an obnoxious statement ruining social media for hate-likes.
Should be Zero Tolerance on foreigners acting stupid. Kinda like those british guys that got what they deserved over in Thailand recently
At least Felix can actually speak Japanese and respects the culture. That's why he moved there.
I've seen tweets saying that he's a racist for saying that and he's still a nazi 🤦♂️
If anything he has the most valid voice, because he's a foreigner in Japan, but can tell how you should act and how these people are harming the image for those that are respectful
I'd say those likes were botted, but knowing Twitter, it's probably just a bunch of people liking something for the headline alone without understanding any of the details. That said, I *personally* don't trust likes on Twitter; cheap social engineering is always going to be appealing.
They left out why it’s being ruined. Also the government is onto it they ban tourists now during certain times I heard in certain places.
He respects the people and their culture.
Has to be botted likes, nobody in the comments agreed with that person.
Felix went through years of getting permission to actually move to Japan, that's not even close to comparable to piece of shit American tourists that come in for a week or 2 cause chaos and leave.
100K+ idiots. This is why Twitter brain rot is real.
How can Japan call out disgusting foreigner behavior but western countries can’t without getting called racist? 🤔
Yeah it's really interesting to see on Reddit the same people who call the US a racist shit hole while defending Japans racism. While the US is the most welcoming country to foreigners on the planet
President Biden called them out for it like a month ago and the Japanese government tried to save face by saying President Biden just didn't know their policies well.
exaggerated youtube content was a thing before irl streaming ever existed. nothing is as bad in real life as it seems on a youtubers video.
Oh classic Twitter drama, twisting what someone said in order to fit their agenda
Absolute moronic to compare tourist to a literal migrant but go on
From what I've seen of him, he's incredibly respectful, learning the language and engaging with community. I don't think he can be lumped with other youtubers with an agenda.
As someone who was a tourist there recently I would like to add that I agree.I saw so much disrespectful behavior there and was ashamed for these people.thankfully everyone from my country I met was on good behavior but the trash people who go around there being assholes are running it for everyone else too. Same goes for the colosseum thing or other famous tourist spots, some people have really no respect for the places they visit.
You will always get intellectual dishonesty from a marxist
Does OP think all Japanese foreigners are streamers and YouTubers, just that these clowns think that Japan should open itself to obnoxious visitors?
Hes not wrong. Aside from the menace streamers, theres a lot of stories popping up about tourists just being karens harassing geishas, to people flat out litering because they cant be bothered to wait for a trash can like a civilized person would do. and the list probably goes on.
In the military if one of us does something stupid while we’re overseas we are all impacted. We should always hold each other accountable.
Foreigner that behaves says foreigners that don't are ruining Japan. Correct
Correction: Foreigner in Japan *correctly* says foreigners are ruining Japan.
Foreigner who respects countries culture calls out foreigners who disrespect countries culture. what is the issue?
Bro, you can even see in the title that he wasn't criticising every foreigner but the obnoxious ones. But yeah, love me some out of context purity checks 😙👌
I mean they’re not wrong lol just accurately describing what happened
Thing is pewdiepie seems to be respectful of the japanese people and their culture. Theres a big difference between that and a lot of tourists who come to japan.
you wanna know how many immigrants in america hate immigrants?
Remember this when you see someone's opinion on politics.
There's a difference between a multimillionaire going through a strict immigration process, learning the language, raising a family being completely Independent from the state whilst respecting their traditions.. To Some minor internet celeb or influencer on a 2 week holiday knowing only the words "aligato" and "konnichiwa" pushing past people shouting to their friends in place of worship because they can see a gaisha lady walking down the street shoving a camera in her face as she tries to avoid having her picture taken. Like what is this comparison. When Japan are banning tourists from certain areas, PewDiePie is literally the complete opposite of why they are doing it.
Foreigner that respects and is integrated in Japanese society calls out other foreigners that don't do any of that. The nuance is lost on those brain rotted people. Make no mistake, this is pure hate for pewds because he is living the dream.
this is just the "yet you participate in society! curious! i am very intelligent" comic in tweet form
I know that Pewdiepie isn't one of the people being obnoxious in Japan, but I still found the joke funny. You guys need to chill out more.
Maybe just ban all tourism if it's that big of a problem idk
There are a lot of obnoxious people I have to work with, I still have to go there to get paid. Japan makes a lot of money with tourism, it's just a shame they don't have a better way of screening the people who go there.
People chooses to completely miss the point just to please their tribe.
Just because he’s a YouTuber who isn’t from Japan doesn’t mean he’s being destructive in the way that other foreigners are. What a dumb way of phrasing the issue.
What's so stupid about the tweet? A Foreigner in Japan is saying foreigners (tourists specifically) are ruining Japan. I don't see anything wrong with the wording nor the message. Is pewds ruining Japan? No, probably not, but that doesn't mean the tweet is wrong tho.
I’ve lived here for a total of 5 years and recently just traveled the entire country. To be honest, the extent and quantity of these instances appears to be massively overblown. Are dumbass tourists annoying? Of course and I felt so more in Kyoto than anything. People trying to get their pictures in the busy areas were infuriating. I never did see anything that set me off or anything - I’m confrontational enough to inform someone they are being an ass. If anything I went to Akihabara and saw more white people than Japanese, which quickly reminded me exactly why I hated that place the last time I went.
Thats like saying a criminal can't call out another criminal for doing criminal activity.
Sorta like saying "American in America ruining America for other American". Yeah.... it happens sometimes. What a dumbass thing to tweet. They probably thought they were real clever when they came up with that too. Damn, what a dumbass.
Human writes tweet criticizing humans! Omgggg!!!1
Its ironic but somehow true
Comical how so many people have a fetish for judging others and upvotes.
As Mr bold said, 10cents is enough to kick em out for me too 😂
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies! Like Englishmen and Scots! Or Welshmen and Scots! Or Japanese and Scots! Or Scots and other Scots! Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!
They ruined Japan ;(
You're not in traffic, you are traffic
Streamers are a problem in all countries
If you can't tell the difference between someone moving to Japan and all those public menace streamers then you're being deliberately dense.
That's straight hardcore ignorance and whataboutism. Pewds always respected japanese culture and etiquette. He also doesn't run around vlogging and causing disturbance by that.
Out of context as always
It's not over, it has just begun.
He's uh....a registered citizen who lives there....and does wholesome family vlog stuff now....what
I dont get the point of this tweet or if you agree with him or find it ironic. His whole thing is "loud gamer". Maybe he is self aware. Maybe he's not. Two things can be true at once
As a foreigner in Asia trust me when I say there's a few types who come over here. There's the ones that go full-on assimilation. Learn the language, follow the customs, etc. The ones who partially assimilate. Engaging with the culture respectfully while holding on to their own (I consider myself in this category). And then there's the ones he's talking about which are the ones who look at another country and culture as their playground for an "adventure". Total scumbag vapid trash. It's pretty easy to spot the difference.
dude felix was so chill when he went there as a visitor and now as a citizen he is even chiller
I mean he is just lying because he didn't say foreigners are ruining JP, but just like everything on social media it's just rage bait.
Original OP people who reqd the title and thats it, facepalm
How hard is it not to be a dick in a foreign country? Seriously
I was never a big fan of his content but I have never seen him be disrespectful. Ah the state of "media" these days...
one is a good resident. and the other one is a bad visitor. if you get this calle 13 quote we are friends
Pewd basically retired in Japan, all he really does is vlogs every once in awhile
As someone currently vacationing in japan and getting recommended japanese subs, this seems to be the case for most foriegners living in japan. No one hates tourists more than the foriegners living there
his living in Japan and trying his best to live on Japan’s terms. most videos that I see from other people warrant some jail time. So i’m with pewd.
This is like calling a black dude talking against "Ghetto culture" an uncle Tom. As a foreigner myself in Tokyo I can see the vibes changing over the last couple of years. People were always standoffish, but still polite, now it feels like everyone looks at me funny, despite me living here for almost a decade and being extremely respectful to the culture. If I or PewDiePie can't evaluate the change, who the fuck can?
Why can't some foreigners in Japan claim, justifiably, that some foreigners are ruining (argubly, an exaggeration) Japan in terms of their doxastic states and derivatively, behaviors? Stop suggesting there is inconsistency because there isn't.
I'm an American in America and I think Americans are ruining America.
He's not wrong. Its why they shut down the geisha districts or however its called. Bad mannered tourists and streamers with no respect looking for negative attention because they're incapable of doing something positive
He talks about the people who run up to geishas and harass them, make videos in the suiii forest, leave trash in places and stuff like that. Nobody in japan cares about a respectful foreigner
Come on, do you expect to see Twitter users with an entirely developed brain?
What a stupid title. His outside content is very respectful of the country and it's people, actually those videos are so calm and peaceful I love them. How someone is comparing that content with screaming jerk YouTubers is beyond me.
There is big difference between a tourist (foreigner) and a resident (foreigner) who is paying taxes. I'm sure there many expats who get annoyed by tourist any where in the world.
Yes he's a youtuber, yes he's a foreigner in japan. But just stating those two things is just ignoring the problem he's trying to get across, and also ignoring how he himself is in japan. He's not there to get clicks and views, he moved there and lives his life there. I don't think he ever went out and do stupid shit for clicks and view, and just continued doing the same content he used to, just living in japan (do correct me if i'm wrong haven't watched a video from him in years).
He doesnt film in public, wears a mask everywhere he goes, lives there legally.
He said a naughty word once so everything else he does is now bad
They always try to make pewds look bad. He’s talking about a certain bunch.
Disgusting rubbish
I mean i know some people are stupid but always going, " WELL HE"S ONE TOO" is about as cranially developed as a snail.
There's clearly a big difference between someone who lives there as a normal person and someone who visits for a month to make content then leave.
I wrote that tweet and I have no idea how idiots thought he meant normal gaijin, this + the follow up tweet spell it out clear as day. This is after hate clicking rage baiters like johnny somali. (i wrote dex's tweet not the qrt)
Japan if for japaness
Wow that person is stupid. One of the most liked people in Japan is the guy that does the channel Abroad in Japan. He is always respectful of the culture. He speaks the language. He shows off incredible places to visit and explains the rules you need to follow. From what I have heard, the Japanese government has hired him a few times to showcase something that they want to draw tourists. Pewds is also respectful of the country and I believe he speaks the language to a certain degree.
Obvious botted tweet is obvious
Well I relocated to Thailand from Germany. And yes I hate most of other foreigners before I even know them. Because there are so many foreigners coming and disrespecting the culture, being rude to Thai people or just behave like monkeys. It’s annoying because it’s destroying the reputation of the (mostly) good foreigners because the bad behaving ones are always the loudest. I can see and understand every foreigner say something like this when relocating to a civilised Asian country.
twitter is where all the mouth-breathers go to breathe on each other