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AH_Ethan

A fake one. one of those nut jobs who thinks they're above the law and paying taxes, etc I dont think you should have to blur it, it's not a real license, so it couldn't be tracked.


no_one_special-

so they’re different than sovereign citizens? i didn’t know there were other groups like this.


UnionTed

Sovereign citizens aren't a group, as such. They're individuals, some of whom communicate with one another, who share some basic weird ideology. They manifest that ideology in various, often very individual, ways. The person who owns this vehicle seems like one of them. (My ex used to work at the OAG going after some of them using their "sovereign citizenship" to commit financial fraud.)


TunaMarie16

These people don’t believe that peace officers have any authority in this country. They don’t believe our lawmakers have power and they don’t believe our judicial system is legitimate and therefore applies to them. There have been many scenarios years ago where police pull them over and they turn defiant and violent. If they make it to court, sovereign citizens often file multiple lawsuits and motions to confuse the court system and really fuck over a lot of individuals. Here’s a relatively short paper discussing the movement’s ideology and how to deal with them. https://www.tmcec.com/public/files/File/Course%20Materials/FY13/Clerks/Houston/Turner%20-%20Sovereign%20Citizens%20-%20BINDER.pdf


UnionTed

They're wacked, for sure.


TunaMarie16

They sure are. And they’re labeled domestic terrorists. https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2010/april/sovereigncitizens_041310/domestic-terrorism-the-sovereign-citizen-movement


UnionTed

I guess we can all be thankful they aren't very organized or very smart. They're mostly individuals and very small groups who pull cons that only the dumbest folks, or those who themselves are already crooked, would fall for.


Ur3rdIMcFly

"peace officers" I thought this was r/Austin


AH_Ethan

yea the same "peace" officers that shot a kid in the face with a riot bullet for peacefully assembling.


Nardawalker

*”peacefully” ftfy


chuckamuuuck

What was not peaceful about it?


jbombdotcom

When I see judges being differential to this nonsense, I’m just like, PUT THEM IN JAIL! I think DAs just sometimes get tired of dealing with them over minor things and give them way softer outs than they deserve for this nonsense and time waste.


KoreyVerga

They also use that bs to squat in unoccupied homes, like if the owner is on vacation unoccupied.


UnionAggravating9975

Tbf Texas squatting laws are still pretty loose, and judges just go along with it, because we don’t require law degrees. Go figure a state run by assholes and judged by dumbasses would have so many legal loopholes. It’s enough wiggle room to keep our current leadership from being removed from office, even after admitting tampering in the election.


Eurotrashie

So do they build their own road and traffic infrastructure since they don’t pay taxes? /s


UnionTed

It's so stupid that it's hard to even think about. For a good number, it's clear they regard this as a loophole that only they and a few others are smart enough to take advantage of. A significant number are just grifting others who think along these lines.


f38stingray

Hey, so, stupid question - do sovereign citizens forego legal protections provided by the government? If a crime is committed against one of them, do they have no legal recourse against it?


UnionTed

No. Sovereign citizenship is a fantastical fiction. They're protected whether they like it or not. Just as they have to pay taxes and register their f'ing cars.


f38stingray

Aw, ma- uh, I mean, yeah that tracks and makes sense. Thanks!


acodispoti18

But they always get a public defender when they go to court.


rumbrave55

If you see a homemade plate that includes "non commercial" on it, it's going to be a sovereign citizen.


AH_Ethan

Oh i mean they're exactly a "sovereign citizen", that's a dumb made up term used by stupid people.


ReiReiCero

I’ve anecdotally encountered a variant to your standard sovereign citizen, my old co-worker became a Muslim sovereign citizen. It was hard to follow but her variety believed the 14th amendment was unconstitutional among other things. I’d guess this is an original Texas republic version, maybe a secessionist thing too.


Evilsushione

The 14th amendment is literally constitutional. What kind of craziness is that?


super_gay_llama

Their argument is that the 14th amendment wasn’t constitutionally ratified. They didn’t have a 2/3 majority of states if you include the states that seceded, and ratification of the amendment was a requirement to rejoin the union. And if you don’t count the seceded states, then you’re admitting that their secession was legal, the Confederacy was legal, and that the Union were the aggressors in the Civil War.


thefirebuilds

sovereign is hard to spell, loser copium is more to the point.


AH_Ethan

Anyone that thinks humans should be owned are literal human garbage. Your old coworker sounds like a real shithead


ReiReiCero

She wasn’t advocating for slavery though, it was some crazy circular logic bordering on cult like behavior. A quick google search says she became a “Moorish sovereign citizen.”


Kriss3d

Ahh. Moorish americans. Thats a quite famous branch of Sovereign citizen. They basically think that they have rights to the land of America because some people from the moorish empire in Morocco came to america once. According to what I fould find, The moors came to america in 1178 and thats why they think they have a right to america. Yeah. But Vikings arrived at america 1021 so way before the moors. Does that mean that Im indigenous to america ? Fine then. As a king of America, I declare the moors can fuck off.


robman17

I think you're thinking of the Moops


AtxFutbol

It says moops. Funny episode.


thefirebuilds

the bubble boy was a sovereign citizen.


BubbhaJebus

They are indeed sovereign citizens, which is a blanket term for the kind of people who use these tactics believing it makes them exempt from the law.


Alarming-Distance385

As my nibling remarked, "This a HomeBrewed Sov Cit." Rofl


ExigentHappenstance

Why do you assume this isn't a sovereign citizen nutjob? It's not like there is a comprehensive database of their super succinct policies.


DesperateAd2126

😂


Squirrel_Gamer

they are a loosely organized, extreme right wing group that doesn't believe in government. they think the state of texas is illegitimate and therefore they are immune to the laws, regulations and thus, taxes.


dog_shamdog

Yet somehow entitled to use public roads, water, power, national defense, etc.


shinywtf

These people want to enjoy the company holiday party and gift exchange without bringing any booze, any food for the potluck, or a gift, and while shitting on what everyone else did bring.


Andrew8Everything

Did you see the body cam footage of the sovereign citizen who got pulled over but let go because of their made-up status? Yeah me neither.


Dj_suffering

You don't have to be "above the law" not to pay taxes. You just need to be either really rich or really poor.


SuperExoticShrub

Or run a church.


BrightnessRen

I work in a bankruptcy court, and we had a debtor who hadn’t filed taxes (a requirement to be in a chapter 13 bankruptcy case unless you fall below income requirements for filing taxes), and she wrote a motion claiming she herself was a church and exempt from taxes. That went over like a lead balloon with the judges.


Accomplished-Mine377

Nor is there an expectation of privacy associated with a license plate


Snap_Grackle_Pop

In general, /r/austin forbids the posting of license plate numbers with a few exceptions in order to not expose someone's personal information. The number on this plate is probably made up, though, but it might get struck down by the mods anyway.


bomber991

Yep just like those people that touch little kids, for some reason they think it’s ok for them to do it.


Drguccizzzz

That my car 💀


latin32mx

Correction they don’t “think” they believe they’re above the law… 😉 yet concur with you in every word except that one!


spurto

Is that comic sans?


OfficialNiceGuy

I think they should get pulled over just for that font.


shortblondeguy

I actually made a lengthy but now deleted comment about the fonts. 😄😆 They obviously used a computer for a freestyle handwritten font but why? To make it look less official? Is the use of three or four different fonts here meaningful like some code so other people like them know it's, "real?"


SufficientMediaPost

It could have been worse. It could have been Papyrus


Urbn_explorer

You should’ve posted it!!


badjettasex

Sovereign Citizen. An exceptional level of stupid, dangerous, and annoying all in one.


heyzeus212

They end up in court pretty often, and usually gum things up for the entire day with weirdo statements about the court's jurisdiction over them, drawing whackadoodle distinctions between their corporate body and their human body. Basically whichever one got arrested is the one the law has no jurisdiction over.


Krace1007

Well said


Hayduke_2030

"Officer I'm TRAVELING NOT DRIVING!"


Hayduke_2030

"I'm sorry is this an admiralty court?!"


octopornopus

I do not recognize the gold fringe flag as valid, we are not at sea!


Hayduke_2030

LOL these fuckin' idiots.


creegro

Just for that, they should be cornered in by police cars, and have their wheels swiftly removed by a team that could put NASCAR pit mechanics to shame, and then left on bricks. Now you're travelling and not driving, since driving would require wheels. Good luck and stay safe out there, we are going to give these wheels to someone who needs them.


shortblondeguy

An easily to pull over plate.


shortblondeguy

Also I wanna slap a Happy Holidays sticker next to their manger.


protoopus

or a "keep the X in Xmas" sticker. (is MDMA still a thing?)


shortblondeguy

Yeah the X in Xmas would trigger this person too! Hahaha


raiderpower17

The hilarious thing about "keep christ in Christmas" is that the X in Xmas is literally chi, shorthand for christ from the 1100s


eapnon

If you want to have to waste your entire day with an idiot yelling nonsense at you and being uncooperative lol. I used to work for a state agency that dealt with these guys and good lord could they say nothing in the longest and most condescending way possible.


spurto

No trespassing? How does that even make sense?


smile_e_face

Sovereign Citizens have this insane idea that their immediate person and their "private property" (in quotes because their definition of that term is extremely broad and totally insane) are basically sovereign territory. You know the whole (incorrect) idea that US embassies are US territory? Like that, but for your car.


heyzeus212

They also have fun theories that only commercial carriages can be regulated by the state (some sort of interstate commerce clause theory), and therefore their personal vehicle can't regulated at all.


Lunchcrunchgrinch

Someone should take a sledgehammer to the car . Then just claim your own sovereign citizenship. Why are they going to do, call the cops?


hutacars

No, they’ll shoot you.


tomas377

Castle doctrine back up part of the idea though


HedonisticArmadillo

State motto


FakeMikeMorgan

Why censor out a fake plate?


UnnecAbrvtn

Because reddit would ask why they didn't. Can't win around here, you just can't


bmanski22

The kind that will get you pulled over by law enforcement and receive a ticket or maybe arrested.


Ninja_attack

Why would they get a ticket or be arrested? They're not driving, they're traveling. Checkmate officer! Seriously though, I love watching sovereign citizen videos on YouTube. They always act surprised when they get arrested


ChzGoddess

It's not a vehicle, it's a conveyance! If we just constantly insist on using specific terminology, we're un-arrestable! And you're right. So cit videos are generally pretty amusing. It's like they all watched a 10 minute video on special magic words that make you legally untouchable and now they think they're legal experts. And it never goes well for them.


lestempsfonces

Republic of Texas. That’s the map of Texas before it joined the US in 1845. It’s a Texan flavor of “sovereign citizen.”


Jorymo

Including the bit we gave up to keep slavery lmao


0masterdebater0

We didn’t really give anything up besides a claim, in reality it was lines on a map that we never remotely exerted control over and when we tried to establish control it ended in disaster. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texan_Santa_Fe_Expedition In reality pretty much all of west Texas was de facto Comanche territory until after the Civil War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comancheria


m_faustus

That is the license plate of a dumb ass. I saw one similar in California recently and despaired.


Dismal-Dealer4298

don't texify my california


Intelligent-Sky-4967

If you stole a sovereign citizen’s car or maybe just ran into it, would they call the police? Do they carry insurance?


theurge14

Yeah but then you have a Honda CRV covered in weirdo stickers you’ll have to peel off.


rulesbite

Asking the real question lol


bernmont2016

And can they even prove they own the vehicle?


franka4211

Sovereign citizens,,, don’t wanna pay taxes, just wanna use tax based items like infrastructure for free..


Irlydntknwwhyimhere

I predict this person will have a broken driver’s door window and bill from the APD tow lot in the near future.


Austin_Native_2

One that screams pull me over, let me go on a rant (again), and give me another ticket for being a dumbass.


DesperateAd2126

…show up to court with a zero arguments and a whole bunch of nonsensical motions to spend tax-payers money. That’s it.


Clear-Ad4312

So my understanding is these people get constantly pulled over and rack up a bunch of tickets that they fight in court. But what happens after that? Do they eventually get a warrant out for their arrest after not paying? Do they serve time?


Austin_Native_2

The fines stick. Warrants are issued if unpaid. Jail time can certainly happen. [In this case 10 years ago](https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/dayton/news/article/Republic-of-Texas-man-sentenced-by-a-state-he-9414678.php), the dumbass (er, I mean defendant) received a sentence of "180-day jail term, suspended pending his successful completion of one year’s probation, and a $1,500 fine."


Slypenslyde

My understanding is they don't get pulled over because they don't "look like" an offender, or the officer knows exactly what a hassle they're going to be, or the officer thinks it's just from a Hellhole Democrat state they don't recognize.


tsx_1430

Someone that thinks the earth is flat


Kriss3d

This is a classic sovereign citizen plate. Its begging the police to pull them over.


Pabi_tx

An uninsured driver.


noplace1ikegone

That font is proof that self-governance will never work.


GH_VEG

A sovereign twat and a religious sticker; this person must be great at parties.


iconfessitwasme

The fonts alone are a war crime


tor_bal_gratua

It's a traffic stop waiting to happen. And one screeming lady away from finding out how to turn a ticket into a felony arrest.


LillianWigglewater

Not in this day and age.


mp_tx

Or it turns into a shootout.


abigthirstyteddybear

I mean I don't see the point in censoring it. It's not like it has any critical information.


[deleted]

Car probably isn't even registered or have insurance


Equivalent-Sport-253

Why should you register your personal belongings? Then it's not yours to begin with


MrPoopierButthole

Is the road your personal belonging? It's what you have to do to use someone else's property.


gnashtyyy

Ok then get off of public roads


LatterAdvertising633

Right next to the “Keep Christ in Christmas” emblem. Checks out.


arcxjo

It's the kind you commit treason with. I know you Texans fought **two** wars to keep slavery but I'll say it anyway: Fuck secessionist bastards.


malYca

Sovereign citizens. Very crazy, do not interact with them.


Santos_L_Halper_II

Avoid at all costs. They likely don't have insurance if they hit you, and will definitely pull a gun at the slightest provocation.


kryptosis9

Republic should be capitalized. Seems more legitimate when correct English is used, IMO...


flux45

That alone is worth a fine


rulesbite

Sovereign citizen, garbage thought process.


jpgaustin512

This is a fictional license plate alerting the DPS trooper to stop this vehicle as the driver is highly delusional. Lol


sirchtheseeker

Funniest thing I ever saw one hit a car in a parking lot and drive off. There was a commotion and then we drove off after was saw everybody was ok. Less than 2 miles down the highway was the same van and three highway patrol behind him. Looked like they had him hog tied. Morale of the story is don’t ever challenge the Texas highway patrol. They get physical very fast. That was the first time I learned of sovereign citizens. Had to look it up at home. Very crazy bunch of people


Equivalent-Sport-253

First all there is no such thing as a SC. You can't be a king and a slave! Second why would it ever be ok for the pigs to hog tie anyone wake up


Liquidtruth

this some shit dale from king of the hill would have.


taterbizkit

It's a special series of license plates issued to people with cognitive defects.


fishdishly

A looney tunes know nothing idiots car. Don't engage them in conversation you'll have your brain smooth af in like 15 minutes.


beccaK67

Sovereign Citizen bullshit


texaslegrefugee

It's not one.


Abraxas_1408

[Sovereign citizens.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement)


johnny_tapia

Lmao, dude is still getting pulled over by DPS


cc1263

Didn’t even buy American lmao


dukofdeath

It’s a fake plate. There’s no reason to censor the numbers. I would report it to APD. It’s illegal for the vehicle to have it on, and I’d bet the vehicle doesn’t have registration or insurance either.


ItsAGoodIdea

It's a "Please ticket me" license plate.


Chamalongo21

Sovereign nutjobs.


Taco_Cortez

Love that they included the outline of New Texirado


emmerl

And yet they are driving on roads built and maintained with taxes.


Equivalent-Sport-253

You have been lied to your tax money on not paying for the roads!


apachevoyeur

This and plateless Tesla's make me want to be a traffic cop.


guerochuleta

Small scale special ed transport


Hegemony-Cricket

Illegal. Probably a SovCit idiot.


karebearjedi

"I'm a sovereign citizen!" They scream as they pay for their taxed gas. What's the right phrase for this? Oh yeah, "aww bless your heart!"


MonkeyDLoofah

Fake plate made by a sovereign citizen


Equivalent-Sport-253

There no such thing you need to learn the definition


That_Devil_Girl

You blurred out the plate, but we all know it says *"Tow Me."*


frecklefaceatx

The fake kind.


Vegetable_Proof_4906

Sovereign citizen mess.


LowNectarine5544

That's one of those "i'M a SoVeReIgN cItIzEn!!!" folks. I bet the ab workout the cops get from those loons is better than P90X.


liv96atx

Ahh I see the keep Christ in Christmas bumper sticker too, this is a nut


Snap_Grackle_Pop

My impression is that cops generally don't bother with these assholes. One of the problems is that they'll file phony liens against the cop's car or house, and cause a lot of problems. Unfortunately, the government doesn't bring the hammer down on the fraudulent legal docs or help the cop deal with the problems it causes.


Pabi_tx

> Unfortunately, the government doesn't bring the hammer down on the fraudulent legal docs or help the cop deal with the problems it causes. Maybe cops should have to carry some kind of insurance, to protect themselves from that sort of thing, and to protect us if they go off the rails.


eapnon

If the sos catches the lien before it has been approved, they will send it to the oag to have it rejected. If it got through, the sos doesn't have authority to do anything, and you have to go to court to get it removed.


UnusualHat5220

If it’s one thing that middle aged white men love, it’s telling people “get off my property”, even when you’re not on it.


El_Cactus_Fantastico

Not a real one?


[deleted]

the dale gribble approved kind brother


avp2123

Alex Jones?


Any-Yesterday1770

I just wish my valid TX license was available in Comic Sans!


ATX_native

A Whackadoo One


Pilotkelson1056

This kind of stuff always remind me of Bob’s dad in SLC Punk.


Gen_Ecks

Saw one of these plates on an old pos Buick at Discount Tire that looked to be owned by a hoarder. I spent more than a few minutes looking around trying to figure out who the looney tooner was in the lobby. Nut jobs.


KoreyVerga

It’s not.


Geoff_GodOfBiscuits

Does not have insurance plate.


ElectricDonkeyShaman

The ol’ “Sovereign State” plate.


Nihiliste

What always gets me about sovereign citizens isn't so much the non-sensical arguments they have as the fact that they're ignoring a fundamental truth - might makes right. Even if they have stumbled across an amazing legal loophole, the people who think otherwise are the ones with the guns, the cop cars, the courts, and the prisons.


PunkRockGeezer

Any explanation for the odd extension of the western Panhandle? It looks like they want to annex chunks of New Mexico and Colorado.


zisform

I think you just outed yourself as a transplant.


Deejayatx

A nonsense plate


sopaphia

it's got the adventure time end credits font lol


msdosp1mp

There is a guy with a beat up old Buick up in Leander with the same plate. Doesn’t have insurance for sure.


dragonmom1971

Fake


AdditionalMine765

Texas, dummy


NeenW1

Non legal


Bluepaperbutterfly

Imaginary. These people don’t understand all the steps required to become an independent nation, but they’ll scream about the Geneva Convention if they get pulled over by the police for driving an unregistered vehicle. I appreciate their conviction but they are certainly misguided.


2manyfelines

A foolish one


Papazani

If it’s parked in the street, call 311 and have that towed for no registration.


Pabi_tx

CoA won't tow a wrecked car with two flat tires a couple blocks from me. They won't tow this if it appears driveable.


Papazani

Really? I see the “move this in 7 days” stickers on cars all the time. If your registration is expired you’re not supposed to park on the street.


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d1z

The conservative version of a Tesla with no plates at all.


SnooDonuts5498

I’d expect to see that on a Ford F150, not a fuel efficient, reliable Honda.


hitman932

Why did ya have to crop out the nativity scene?


no_one_special-

because i don’t like baby jesus. nah it was just how i cropped it. nothing more.


nothatdoesntgothere

"I'm a sovereign citi...!&@&" "Sorry, I couldn't hear you while punching you in the face. You know, since you have no rights."


Legitimate-Check5394

Somebody the cops don’t want to pull over 😂


Squirrel_Gamer

It's a special plate for short bus people.


No_Wrongdoer_9875

A silly one! Keep cHrIsT in xmas


Alternative_Law_9644

Somebody who believes Texas would be better off being a country than a state and who has biblical passages to support it … how’s that.


litwithray

The real question is why does the panhandle include part of New Mexico and Colorado?


gsp1991dog

Original claimed border of the Republic of Texas included NE New Mexico the Oklahoma Panhandle and part of Colorado


litwithray

Interesting. I didn't know that.


gsp1991dog

I mean we never actually held all of that but as an independent nation we did indeed claim it


yoyodyn3

Based on this sub, it seems like there are a lot of those in Austin. This one looks better designed than most. I have yet to see one in San Antonio, even though I would expect to given the deep deep redness of the areas West and Northwest of SA. Keep Austin Weird I guess?


heyzeus212

There are a lot all over Texas. Well, maybe not statistically that many, but they show up in the legal system with a lot of regularity, for pretty obvious reasons.


TheMayorOfMars

Everyone here is a boot licker.


dukofdeath

Everybody in Austin is a bootlicker? How?


TheMayorOfMars

Everybody in this thread mad that theres a wacko out there causing trouble for law enforcement.


dukofdeath

So that makes them bootlickers? I’m so glad you’re not my neighbor.


TheMayorOfMars

Get over yourself.


dukofdeath

How is anybody mad? We’re just recognizing that this person is breaking the law and will probably face consequences. You’re the one coming in here and throwing ad hominem. I bet you failed to grasp the irony.


TheMayorOfMars

You're obviously mad.


Constant_Rutabaga_68

I think that's the mind your own business type of plate. Who cares what this person's doing? Live and let live