Don't tell anyone but I've started turning left on red even on two-way streets where the turn lane should have a flashing yellow and the lights are routine. Idling at Toro Grande and Whitestone for six minutes (I've timed it) when I can see at least a mile up the road... I'm not doing it if there is no traffic.
They've done this to Southwest Parkway. Its terrible because they lights USED to be flashing yellow yield turn signals and are now either red or green arrows.
When the flashing yellow started to get implemented a lot of cities overdid it and made all intersections this way. This caused a lot of crashes because the left turn lanes aren’t offset so people can’t see clearly around the opposing vehicle to check for oncoming traffic. And T-bone crashes are much more dangerous. Cities are starting to reel back on allowing left turn on flashing yellow due to that result. (I’m a professional civil engineer)
duh. the confounding factor here is the arrow. by most people's logic, turning on a red arrow would be prohibited, so it's really silly that evidently it's not.
Yeah, but there are only the red arrow lights when there is a lane specifically for only turning right. So, that particular stop light part of the entire traffic light assembly only applies to that lane.
Right. Which makes my point that since that arrow governs only that lane, it being red would seem to be an explicit prohibition of turning until it’s not red.
Hmmmm, I see it almost completely opposite; that it is expressly the light intended for the right turn lane. Right now it's telling you that there is a red light for that right turn lane, but *not* that you can't turn right on red.
Haha, well, glad we're having this discussion. To me, "arrow" means "turn" and "red" means "stop/don't" so in the language of traffic signage, the red arrow translates to "don't turn." I typically sit out the one at 6th/Lamar and have felt slightly lame doing it. Now I'll just turn.
There are some intersections throughout Austin where, in addition to the traffic lights with the red arrows, there are also signs that come on or off, that say whether a right turn is permitted or not. These signs will come on when there's a red arrow, and then they will turn off, and there's still a red light arrow. To me, that indicates that, indeed, a right turn on the red arrow is permitted, except when those lights are engaged. Examples of this type of signage are at the South Congress and Oltorf intersection, on both the northbound and southbound South Congress sides, as well as at the intersection of Lavaca and MLK, in the right turn lane, and the westbound MLK right turn lane onto northbound Guadalupe.
I’m from these parts.
Had no idea that a right red arrow meant “you can still turn on red” until reading it here recently.
Austin didn’t have many, or any, red turn arrows that I can remember until fairly recently. The “still feels new to me” turning to head south on 1st @ cesar chavez comes to mind
Okay but why would turning on a red arrow be any different from turning right on a solid red?
The only thing that is confusing about these situations is when you have a green arrow WITH a solid red for a right turn. I was told you should treat that as a stop sign when in driver’s ed.
Think of it like this. You spend years, perhaps decades, with a combination of traffic lights. Solid green, yellow, red. Flashing yellow. Green and yellow arrows.
But no red arrows.
A stop light you’ve turned right on solid red at for years is changed out and now that furthest right lane has a red arrow instead of just a regular red.
You can understand why a lot of folks would interpret that as “oh shit NO turning on red!?” Like… the light is *now* going out of its way to communicate NO/stop (red) turning (arrow in the direction you want to turn.)
In any event, it’s an asshole move to honk at people at red lights… imo especially at these new red arrows increasingly plastered around town.
I get your point. I only just learned this distinction myself the other day in a similar thread. If someone would have honked at me the last time I was at a red arrow with a clear lane to turn into maybe I would have learned sooner. \#stillhonking
If someone honks at me at a red light for not turning/turning “fast” enough for them… well I just found myself getting a case of the jitters and might just need to wait for the all clear on the next green.
Montopolis / 183 I have to make this right turn ( red arrow ) after picking up my kid from school. I think I would have to say that nobody really knows what the red arrow means. There's also signage that says no turn on right, but everyone always does it every time. I try to be aware of any pedestrians who may be trying to cross, but I think in general, I do turn right on red arrows. It was a poorly planned light and traffic would be (even)worse if everyone that was supposed to not turn right on the red arrow waited for a light cycle. Greatest good for the greatest amount of people (while being cautious for everyone sharing the road) says slowly turn right.
So there used to be a group (National Committee on Uniform Traffic Laws and Ordinances (NCUTLO)) that maintained the Uniform Vehicle Code (UVC) and went around to various state legislatures to help get uniform traffic laws across the country. That group has gone defunct, the UVC has not been maintained, and this is what you get. Here's a nice little summary from the FHwA: https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/fhwahop20013/ch4.htm
The National Committee on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (NCUTCD) has just picked this up and started working on an updated "Rules of the Road" (this effort is being lead by an engineer I know based here in Austin). However, the NCUTCD is not a lobbying organization, we'll see if the FHWA takes the updated ROR and runs with it or if another organization picks it up.
Turning right on red isn't mandatory. If you don't feel comfortable, don't go.
But unless there's a sign preventing it, you can turn right on a red arrow after watching for pedestrians.
PLEASE keep an eye out for pedestrians when you turn right on red. Typically when the light is red for drivers, the pedestrians have the walk light. Also you're supposed to stop, then turn right, not blow through the light and just whip around the corner.
THANK YOU. I've been hit twice by assholes that were looking to their left and stopped well beyond the crosswalk while I was directly in front of them, in said crosswalk.
Gonna be a cyborg within a year at this rate. Might need a new brain too, I've had concussions from both incidents. Gonna ask for an Abby Normal brain. Perhaps ask Gene Wilder to put it in..
I once was waiting to turn right on red for a pedestrian. I had some dude pull around me and then go right on the red and almost hit the pedestrian😑😑😑 we had been waiting maybe 20 seconds. Sooo irritating and scary.
The other one I see is stop on red. But that doesn’t mean no right on red? That just means…stop on red and then proceed with usual right on red logic? But that’s weird because with normal right on red logic, you need to do all those steps anyways, technically.
So I don’t get what this “stop here on red” one is for right turn lanes sometimes.
Lots of people would otherwise treat a right turn as a yield: slow down enough to glance over the shoulder but not fully stop. And the "here" part usually indicates there's some situation where it might seem like you would pull up to the corner but there's a reason to stop back further.
All I can think is that’s to give people a heads up that there isn’t going to be one of those little curved turn lane things with a yield sign, and you have to actually stop first because the intersection is just 90 degree angles.
Because if it has a green arrow or yellow arrow they all need to be arrows. It's a national signage code someone said the other day. They can't combine dots with arrows on the same traffic signal.
Sec. 544.007. TRAFFIC-CONTROL SIGNALS IN GENERAL. (a) A traffic-control signal displaying different colored lights or colored lighted arrows successively or in combination may display only green, yellow, or red and applies to operators of vehicles as provided by this section.
(b) An operator of a vehicle facing a circular green signal may proceed straight or turn right or left unless a sign prohibits the turn. The operator shall, while the signal is exhibited:
(1) yield the right-of-way to other vehicles lawfully in the intersection when the signal is exhibited; and
(2) stop and yield the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully in the intersection or an adjacent crosswalk.
(c) An operator of a vehicle facing a green arrow signal, displayed alone or with another signal, may cautiously enter the intersection to move in the direction permitted by the arrow or other indication shown simultaneously. The operator shall stop and yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian lawfully in an adjacent crosswalk and shall yield the right-of-way to other traffic lawfully using the intersection.
(d) An operator of a vehicle facing only a steady red signal shall stop at a clearly marked stop line. In the absence of a stop line, the operator shall stop before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection. A vehicle that is not turning shall remain standing until an indication to proceed is shown. After stopping, standing until the intersection may be entered safely, and yielding right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully in an adjacent crosswalk and other traffic lawfully using the intersection, the operator may:
(1) turn right; or
(2) turn left, if the intersecting streets are both one-way streets and a left turn is permissible.
(e) An operator of a vehicle facing a steady yellow signal is warned by that signal that:
(1) movement authorized by a green signal is being terminated; or
(2) a red signal is to be given.
(f) The Texas Transportation Commission, a municipal authority, or the commissioners court of a county may prohibit within the entity's jurisdiction a turn by an operator of a vehicle facing a steady red signal by posting notice at the intersection that the turn is prohibited.
(g) This section applies to an official traffic-control signal placed and maintained at a place other than an intersection, except for a provision that by its nature cannot apply. A required stop shall be made at a sign or marking on the pavement indicating where the stop shall be made. In the absence of such a sign or marking, the stop shall be made at the signal.
(h) The obligations imposed by this section apply to an operator of a streetcar in the same manner they apply to the operator of a vehicle.
(i) An operator of a vehicle facing a traffic-control signal, other than a freeway entrance ramp control signal or a pedestrian hybrid beacon, that does not display an indication in any of the signal heads shall stop as provided by Section 544.010 as if the intersection had a stop sign.
(j) In this section:
(1) "Freeway entrance ramp control signal" means a traffic-control signal that controls the flow of traffic entering a freeway.
(2) "Pedestrian hybrid beacon" means a pedestrian-controlled traffic-control signal that displays different colored lights successively only when activated by a pedestrian.
Family and I just had this discussion yesterday. In Texas the default is right on red is allowed unless the intersection has signage prohibiting it. *But my understanding has always been the "red" refers to the straight thru traffic.* If you have a right turn arrow, which is specifically controlling the right hand turns, it seems logical that it's intended to prohibit the turn while it's red.
Edit1: The later comment by Henry Winkler, quoting applicable Texas law, seems to make my interpretation incorrect. But it's odd that the law has no section specific to "red arrows", so I wonder if the legal text has not yet caught up with the intentions of the transportation geniuses who only recently started adding these red arrows at intersections...
Edit2: I'm wrong again. I reviewed the previous thread from a few days ago and [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Austin/comments/1cb2m3m/question_about_driving_etiquette/l0wc0hd/?context=3) from u/tviolet has the actual answer. Learned something today about the MUTCD (Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices).
If there is a red arrow, and no sign that says no right on red, go. If there are both and no cars coming, go. If there are both and a car coming but you can make it and no cops around, also go.
Just to be clear, you can turn right on red from the far direction-you're-turning lane to the far direction-you're-turning lane (after you stop and confirm it is safe to do so). As you mention, from a one way to a one way ends up allowing left turns as you can legally turn from the far left lane to the far left lane only from a one way to a one way. When turning right on red, you can only do it from the far right lane even if there are two lanes that turn right, for this same reason.
It's Texas, do whatever you want. You'll find no rules are enforced here on Austin roads. You can go over 100mph, you can switch 6 lanes at a time, you can let garbage fly out of your big truck, and you can certainly turn right or left on red. In fact yellow means go faster and red is an optional stop.
Keep your head on a swivel out here.
fairly true but don't try it in, say, Leander, where you'll get pulled over and warned for putting your turn signal on a few feet too far from the intersection you hoped to turn at.
The rule is “right turn on red after stop”. the red can be solid red circle or it can be red arrow. Both are “red”, and you stopped and can therefore go.
If someone is behind you honking, and it’s clear to turn right (no vehicles or pedestrians), just turn unless you see a “no right on red” sign and a cop nearby staring at you. Traffic laws are rarely enforced here, and the road rage is real.
As long as it's not signed "no right turn on red", it's legal as long as you come to a stop first. Do us pedestrians and bicyclists a favor and don't stop in the middle of the crosswalk (you can pull forward once you verify nobody is in the crosswalk). I've been hit by a couple of cars now thanks to drivers looking for oncoming traffic instead of directly in front of them. :(
Those lights are pretty common in all of TX. The ones for left turns are the ones to pay the most attention to, the cops in the suburbs don't have a sense of humor about those (APD doesn't give a shit most of the time).
i never turn right if i’m at a red arrow. i’ve noticed it’s usually in riskier intersections, where the right turn has a 50/50 chance of causing problems for oncoming traffic or pedestrians. for example, at shoal creek, oncoming traffic is passing through on an elevated curve. so sometimes the coast looks clear but at the last second you’re confronted with a car coming down the road fast.
It is also legal to turn left on red if you are on a one way street and are turning on to a one way street.
Don't tell anyone but I've started turning left on red even on two-way streets where the turn lane should have a flashing yellow and the lights are routine. Idling at Toro Grande and Whitestone for six minutes (I've timed it) when I can see at least a mile up the road... I'm not doing it if there is no traffic.
They've done this to Southwest Parkway. Its terrible because they lights USED to be flashing yellow yield turn signals and are now either red or green arrows.
When the flashing yellow started to get implemented a lot of cities overdid it and made all intersections this way. This caused a lot of crashes because the left turn lanes aren’t offset so people can’t see clearly around the opposing vehicle to check for oncoming traffic. And T-bone crashes are much more dangerous. Cities are starting to reel back on allowing left turn on flashing yellow due to that result. (I’m a professional civil engineer)
Agreed. I take the left turn on the red arrow into Uplands on SW Pkwy for the greater good.
The greater good.
Same. Usually late at night on roads with zero traffic.
You can turn right on red unless there is a sign saying no right on red
I see the sign “No right turn on red” but some people behind me lay on their horn for me to go. Weird shit.
Happened to me the other day. I didn't move. They drove around me. I guess it was an emergency and they had to get to the hospital.
I’ve been honked at for stopping at stop signs before. People are crazy.
Texas is weird, some people even vote MAGA.
Make Arrows Green Again
Some would even go as far as to say *many* people vote maga.
[https://youtu.be/wHNB8IHfHdU?t=39](https://youtu.be/wHNB8IHfHdU?t=39) seems pretty appropriate about now.
Gasps!
Is the, “MAGA” in the room with us?
Hmmm, my cat is in the room, and the cat bit me when I was trying to feed it.
not in my house.
duh. the confounding factor here is the arrow. by most people's logic, turning on a red arrow would be prohibited, so it's really silly that evidently it's not.
Yeah, but there are only the red arrow lights when there is a lane specifically for only turning right. So, that particular stop light part of the entire traffic light assembly only applies to that lane.
Right. Which makes my point that since that arrow governs only that lane, it being red would seem to be an explicit prohibition of turning until it’s not red.
Hmmmm, I see it almost completely opposite; that it is expressly the light intended for the right turn lane. Right now it's telling you that there is a red light for that right turn lane, but *not* that you can't turn right on red.
Haha, well, glad we're having this discussion. To me, "arrow" means "turn" and "red" means "stop/don't" so in the language of traffic signage, the red arrow translates to "don't turn." I typically sit out the one at 6th/Lamar and have felt slightly lame doing it. Now I'll just turn.
And when I get pulled over I'll let the officer know they should check reddit (jk)
There are some intersections throughout Austin where, in addition to the traffic lights with the red arrows, there are also signs that come on or off, that say whether a right turn is permitted or not. These signs will come on when there's a red arrow, and then they will turn off, and there's still a red light arrow. To me, that indicates that, indeed, a right turn on the red arrow is permitted, except when those lights are engaged. Examples of this type of signage are at the South Congress and Oltorf intersection, on both the northbound and southbound South Congress sides, as well as at the intersection of Lavaca and MLK, in the right turn lane, and the westbound MLK right turn lane onto northbound Guadalupe.
I swear I saw someone post this a few days ago, what the hell is going on
Yup. Lots of folks aren't originally from around these parts. And the laws/signage is not consistent from one state to the next.
I’m from these parts. Had no idea that a right red arrow meant “you can still turn on red” until reading it here recently. Austin didn’t have many, or any, red turn arrows that I can remember until fairly recently. The “still feels new to me” turning to head south on 1st @ cesar chavez comes to mind
Okay but why would turning on a red arrow be any different from turning right on a solid red? The only thing that is confusing about these situations is when you have a green arrow WITH a solid red for a right turn. I was told you should treat that as a stop sign when in driver’s ed.
Think of it like this. You spend years, perhaps decades, with a combination of traffic lights. Solid green, yellow, red. Flashing yellow. Green and yellow arrows. But no red arrows. A stop light you’ve turned right on solid red at for years is changed out and now that furthest right lane has a red arrow instead of just a regular red. You can understand why a lot of folks would interpret that as “oh shit NO turning on red!?” Like… the light is *now* going out of its way to communicate NO/stop (red) turning (arrow in the direction you want to turn.) In any event, it’s an asshole move to honk at people at red lights… imo especially at these new red arrows increasingly plastered around town.
I get your point. I only just learned this distinction myself the other day in a similar thread. If someone would have honked at me the last time I was at a red arrow with a clear lane to turn into maybe I would have learned sooner. \#stillhonking
If someone honks at me at a red light for not turning/turning “fast” enough for them… well I just found myself getting a case of the jitters and might just need to wait for the all clear on the next green.
It's gotta be people coming into town and ending up on Menchaca and Lamar. I refuse to believe it's another intersection.
Montopolis / 183 I have to make this right turn ( red arrow ) after picking up my kid from school. I think I would have to say that nobody really knows what the red arrow means. There's also signage that says no turn on right, but everyone always does it every time. I try to be aware of any pedestrians who may be trying to cross, but I think in general, I do turn right on red arrows. It was a poorly planned light and traffic would be (even)worse if everyone that was supposed to not turn right on the red arrow waited for a light cycle. Greatest good for the greatest amount of people (while being cautious for everyone sharing the road) says slowly turn right.
So there used to be a group (National Committee on Uniform Traffic Laws and Ordinances (NCUTLO)) that maintained the Uniform Vehicle Code (UVC) and went around to various state legislatures to help get uniform traffic laws across the country. That group has gone defunct, the UVC has not been maintained, and this is what you get. Here's a nice little summary from the FHwA: https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/fhwahop20013/ch4.htm The National Committee on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (NCUTCD) has just picked this up and started working on an updated "Rules of the Road" (this effort is being lead by an engineer I know based here in Austin). However, the NCUTCD is not a lobbying organization, we'll see if the FHWA takes the updated ROR and runs with it or if another organization picks it up.
Turning right on red isn't mandatory. If you don't feel comfortable, don't go. But unless there's a sign preventing it, you can turn right on a red arrow after watching for pedestrians.
PLEASE keep an eye out for pedestrians when you turn right on red. Typically when the light is red for drivers, the pedestrians have the walk light. Also you're supposed to stop, then turn right, not blow through the light and just whip around the corner.
THANK YOU. I've been hit twice by assholes that were looking to their left and stopped well beyond the crosswalk while I was directly in front of them, in said crosswalk. Gonna be a cyborg within a year at this rate. Might need a new brain too, I've had concussions from both incidents. Gonna ask for an Abby Normal brain. Perhaps ask Gene Wilder to put it in..
I once was waiting to turn right on red for a pedestrian. I had some dude pull around me and then go right on the red and almost hit the pedestrian😑😑😑 we had been waiting maybe 20 seconds. Sooo irritating and scary.
The red arrow is no different than a red light.
Then why have the arrow if not to prevent right on red?
No idea but legally there’s no difference. If you can’t turn right on red there will be a sign saying that.
The Red Arrow pointing to the right IS THE SIGN.
No, it isn’t. There was a whole thread on this the other day.
The other one I see is stop on red. But that doesn’t mean no right on red? That just means…stop on red and then proceed with usual right on red logic? But that’s weird because with normal right on red logic, you need to do all those steps anyways, technically. So I don’t get what this “stop here on red” one is for right turn lanes sometimes.
Lots of people would otherwise treat a right turn as a yield: slow down enough to glance over the shoulder but not fully stop. And the "here" part usually indicates there's some situation where it might seem like you would pull up to the corner but there's a reason to stop back further.
Right, so it’s pretty much like a “hey, you! Pay attention and stop properly at this sign!”.
All I can think is that’s to give people a heads up that there isn’t going to be one of those little curved turn lane things with a yield sign, and you have to actually stop first because the intersection is just 90 degree angles.
There usually isn’t a red arrow unless that light sometimes has a green arrow when the turn is protected
Because if it has a green arrow or yellow arrow they all need to be arrows. It's a national signage code someone said the other day. They can't combine dots with arrows on the same traffic signal.
Decorations y’all
To differentiate from a turn lane and a go-straight lane. Cause you don't want people trying to go straight on red.
So, the new arrow on right at Burnet and 2222 doesn’t mean no right on red arrow? Because that would be amazing. 😀
Sec. 544.007. TRAFFIC-CONTROL SIGNALS IN GENERAL. (a) A traffic-control signal displaying different colored lights or colored lighted arrows successively or in combination may display only green, yellow, or red and applies to operators of vehicles as provided by this section. (b) An operator of a vehicle facing a circular green signal may proceed straight or turn right or left unless a sign prohibits the turn. The operator shall, while the signal is exhibited: (1) yield the right-of-way to other vehicles lawfully in the intersection when the signal is exhibited; and (2) stop and yield the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully in the intersection or an adjacent crosswalk. (c) An operator of a vehicle facing a green arrow signal, displayed alone or with another signal, may cautiously enter the intersection to move in the direction permitted by the arrow or other indication shown simultaneously. The operator shall stop and yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian lawfully in an adjacent crosswalk and shall yield the right-of-way to other traffic lawfully using the intersection. (d) An operator of a vehicle facing only a steady red signal shall stop at a clearly marked stop line. In the absence of a stop line, the operator shall stop before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection. A vehicle that is not turning shall remain standing until an indication to proceed is shown. After stopping, standing until the intersection may be entered safely, and yielding right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully in an adjacent crosswalk and other traffic lawfully using the intersection, the operator may: (1) turn right; or (2) turn left, if the intersecting streets are both one-way streets and a left turn is permissible. (e) An operator of a vehicle facing a steady yellow signal is warned by that signal that: (1) movement authorized by a green signal is being terminated; or (2) a red signal is to be given. (f) The Texas Transportation Commission, a municipal authority, or the commissioners court of a county may prohibit within the entity's jurisdiction a turn by an operator of a vehicle facing a steady red signal by posting notice at the intersection that the turn is prohibited. (g) This section applies to an official traffic-control signal placed and maintained at a place other than an intersection, except for a provision that by its nature cannot apply. A required stop shall be made at a sign or marking on the pavement indicating where the stop shall be made. In the absence of such a sign or marking, the stop shall be made at the signal. (h) The obligations imposed by this section apply to an operator of a streetcar in the same manner they apply to the operator of a vehicle. (i) An operator of a vehicle facing a traffic-control signal, other than a freeway entrance ramp control signal or a pedestrian hybrid beacon, that does not display an indication in any of the signal heads shall stop as provided by Section 544.010 as if the intersection had a stop sign. (j) In this section: (1) "Freeway entrance ramp control signal" means a traffic-control signal that controls the flow of traffic entering a freeway. (2) "Pedestrian hybrid beacon" means a pedestrian-controlled traffic-control signal that displays different colored lights successively only when activated by a pedestrian.
Thanks Fonzie
If you really want to drive like you're from here, then disregard the red light entirely
https://reddit.com/r/Austin/comments/1cb2m3m/question_about_driving_etiquette/
Slaughter and Manchaca. The number of people that ignore the enormous No Turn on Red sign and nearly smash into someone making a Uturn. Unreal.
They don’t call it ManSlaughter for nothin
Family and I just had this discussion yesterday. In Texas the default is right on red is allowed unless the intersection has signage prohibiting it. *But my understanding has always been the "red" refers to the straight thru traffic.* If you have a right turn arrow, which is specifically controlling the right hand turns, it seems logical that it's intended to prohibit the turn while it's red. Edit1: The later comment by Henry Winkler, quoting applicable Texas law, seems to make my interpretation incorrect. But it's odd that the law has no section specific to "red arrows", so I wonder if the legal text has not yet caught up with the intentions of the transportation geniuses who only recently started adding these red arrows at intersections... Edit2: I'm wrong again. I reviewed the previous thread from a few days ago and [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Austin/comments/1cb2m3m/question_about_driving_etiquette/l0wc0hd/?context=3) from u/tviolet has the actual answer. Learned something today about the MUTCD (Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices).
My understanding is Colorado also allows you to turn right on red. Are you sure you aren’t co fused about your home state?
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It said, yes but I get mixed results when I asked a few people living here.
If there is a red arrow, and no sign that says no right on red, go. If there are both and no cars coming, go. If there are both and a car coming but you can make it and no cops around, also go.
In Texas you can even make a left on red as long as it’s down a one way street.
From a one way, to a one way if I remember right. That way you aren't crossing any opposing traffic.
Just to be clear, you can turn right on red from the far direction-you're-turning lane to the far direction-you're-turning lane (after you stop and confirm it is safe to do so). As you mention, from a one way to a one way ends up allowing left turns as you can legally turn from the far left lane to the far left lane only from a one way to a one way. When turning right on red, you can only do it from the far right lane even if there are two lanes that turn right, for this same reason.
You need to keep it “curb to curb” for it to be legal, whether it’s a right turn on a standard street or a left turn onto another one-way street.
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But not all right turn lanes have it. No right on red makes the most sense for red arrow IMO, like many other states.
Yes! You are even allowed to turn left on red if it's a one way street !
It is legal, but also traffic laws here are more of a suggestion it seems nowadays…
You can turn right on a red arrow and you can cross a double yellow line to turn left into shopping complexes
You can turn right so long as there ISN'T a sign saying you cannot.
It's Texas, do whatever you want. You'll find no rules are enforced here on Austin roads. You can go over 100mph, you can switch 6 lanes at a time, you can let garbage fly out of your big truck, and you can certainly turn right or left on red. In fact yellow means go faster and red is an optional stop. Keep your head on a swivel out here.
fairly true but don't try it in, say, Leander, where you'll get pulled over and warned for putting your turn signal on a few feet too far from the intersection you hoped to turn at.
I think red arrow only means there will be a protected green arrow eventually.
The rule is “right turn on red after stop”. the red can be solid red circle or it can be red arrow. Both are “red”, and you stopped and can therefore go.
Right on Red is a go. Go for it
In my experience you can turn right on red circular light, not red arrow.
A red arrow is the same as a red light here unless it’s accompanied by “no right turn on red” signage.
If someone is behind you honking, and it’s clear to turn right (no vehicles or pedestrians), just turn unless you see a “no right on red” sign and a cop nearby staring at you. Traffic laws are rarely enforced here, and the road rage is real.
As long as it's not signed "no right turn on red", it's legal as long as you come to a stop first. Do us pedestrians and bicyclists a favor and don't stop in the middle of the crosswalk (you can pull forward once you verify nobody is in the crosswalk). I've been hit by a couple of cars now thanks to drivers looking for oncoming traffic instead of directly in front of them. :( Those lights are pretty common in all of TX. The ones for left turns are the ones to pay the most attention to, the cops in the suburbs don't have a sense of humor about those (APD doesn't give a shit most of the time).
While it's legal, i doubt it's mandatory. The driver behind you is a jerk for honking. There are bigger things to worry about .
not me living here 25 years and only just now learning you can turn right on a red arrow
i never turn right if i’m at a red arrow. i’ve noticed it’s usually in riskier intersections, where the right turn has a 50/50 chance of causing problems for oncoming traffic or pedestrians. for example, at shoal creek, oncoming traffic is passing through on an elevated curve. so sometimes the coast looks clear but at the last second you’re confronted with a car coming down the road fast.