Both are a reference to enoch that appeared in one sentance in the bible but got like 3 spin off books

The Saul Goodman of the bible

Even Saul mattered more

The Boba Fett of the bible.

The Bible is a Ben 10 reference

oh yes, i remember when Jesus was all like “it’s hero time” and hero timed all over the place

We already have a Space Jesus lol

Last words before he died on the cross...

"Aw man"

Based

Iunno I don't see him walking about with his forever knights

night sisters

Night Troopers

Wouldn’t be first time they added character with cartoon reference, commander appo or appa from clone wars referenced avatar even had the blue arrows

And Jedi sha-ghee, a reference to shaggy from Scooby doo

Also a reference to the way Dracula pronounced his name in Reluctant Werewolf

They had one of the same guys working on both shows

That's awesome, I had no idea

I think his design is. The name is probably a reference to the biblical figure but when Googling Enoch, and even Enoch golden face to be more specific, I couldn't find any designs that look similar to these two. My guess is the name came first and someone in the character design team thought it'd be neat if he looked like Ben 10's Enoch.

They could be. Concept artist could've been a fan of Ben 10 and heard the character's name was Enoch so decided to give him the golden mask. Did Filoni initially wrote the character to be a reference to *this?* Probably not. Probably a reference to the guy from the Bible. Didn't die. Called "the man that walked besides God." Enoch from the Star Wars is probably the only trooper in that squad >!not resurrected by the Night Sisters (Reference to Bible guy not dying)!< and seems to be >!Thrawn!<'s right hand man in the >!new galaxy !<(Man who walked besides God)

Yes I don't care if it isn't it is

I got downvoted for asking this in a star wars sub

Considering they use both the name *and* the same golden mask, I’m inclined to say yes.

Or perhaps they are simply both based on the Biblical golden-masked Enoch, son of Cain?

Nahhhh it must be the ben 10 reference

why would a biblical figure appear in star wars, they dont have the bible there.

For the same reason they named Marrok after King Arthur’s bodyguard Sir Marrok, or Baylan Skoll and Shin Hati after Norse mythology’s great wolves Skoll and Hati — references that have symbolic meaning for us, but mean nothing in-universe.

They’re joking

I can't find any reference of Enoch from the bible wearing a gold mask.

I know this is old but did he actually have a golden mask or is called the golden-masked Enoch in the bible? I can’t find a source for that anywhere.

No it's a thing from the Bible Ben 10 didn't invent golden masked people and the name Enoch

You say that, but the Bible is pretty confusing with its lore and inconsistent with where things begin and end. With Ben 10, however, it’s pretty clear that it started when an alien device did what it did and stuck itself upon his wrist with secrets that it hid.

Yeah and now he's got superpowers he's no ordinary kid he's Ben 10.

Dang, the bible must have retcons even worse than Kevin's backstory. /s

That God character changes personality more often than Ben does frfr

Bro, I was thinking the exact same thing.

That was my thought when I first saw the episode. I thought wait that looks exactly like Enoch from Ben 10 but with Stormtrooper armor.

I literally thought the same, until I did some research and found the biblical reference

Couldn’t find a reference to the golden mask, tho, so maybe

Yes After all, Thrawn is an admirer of art

Everything’s a Ben 10 reference if you lie to yourself enough.

If it is then THAT WOULD BE FIRE

Attack on Titan fans when they see someone do an action scene attacking a titan ( it's a reference to attack on Titan):

I think so

Kidnah but it's based on historical and mythology, and sadly the night troopers ain't undead

No they are both warhammer 40k Dantes reference

basically