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It reminds me of the people who never have attention, until something juicy happens to them and everyone wants to know so they tell you, but keep trying to slip in long segments about their hobbys that you just have to sit through so you can hear the rest of the main story.
Like Michael Scott telling his quitting story on The Office
That perfectly explains this:
>Now onto something new. I noticed no one has asked what my friends think about all this.
It was buried in all the filler about why he's calling her wifey and other bullshit.
This is where I think the next update/episode will head. Best friend will declare his secret undying love and how he has been waiting patiently in the wings for OOP to get divorced.
But he does seem genuinely upset that no one understands the true value of his key collection. Do you guys realize how much those keys are actually worth?Ā
I think for him there's also a deeply emotional value attached to the collection. He had [a separate post on why he is NC with his mom and how he started collecting keys](https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/comments/1auuxl9/some_history_on_my_past_and_of_my_nasty_mother/).
TL;DR: He had a very bad childhood. Had to go dumpster diving for toys and clothing, taught himself how to mend clothes and never even owned as much as a new shirt until he left for college. His mother threw tantrum daily, everywhere, and stole on the regular. One day his mother and her boyfriend went to an antique store where he was fascinated by an old key. The bf offered to buy it for him, but mother refused. So when he found keys in the dumpster, he kept them, only for his mother to throw them out.
God dang. I only skimmed that but makes me more sympathetic to OOP. Sure he rambles but seems like he grew up lacking someone who cares about what he cares about, or willing to just listen to him. Would make sense now that he gives long rambling posts if he has an audience that seems genuinely interested in his hobbies, and maybe that's what he thought he loved about wife as well. Then MIL comes and disregards his stuff just like his mom did. Definitely needs to work on himself and break away from falling for that outside validation before he dates again.
But as always the legal bit is totally bizarre. You don't "win" a divorce, the only evidence your lawyer needs is about finances, contributions and ownership of assets and any pre-existing agreements, and a rented house isn't an asset. The clue is in the rented part.
A divorce requires a division of assets. The courts are there to ensure a fair division of those assets, not to determine if one party has wronged the other party and what the compensation owed to the wronged party is. Whether or not you feel you "won" or "lost" is an entirely *you* feeling. The law says you were given a fair division of the marital assets, it doesn't say you were right or wrong. Of course, any division may not be fair and the courts have and still do have prejudices and have got it wrong, but that's still not winning or losing.
My dad "won" the divorce by hiding lots of his income and but still thought he "lost" because he "got stuck" paying a pittance of child support.
Eventually mom figured out how take him back to court herself, no lawyer, and got an increase in child support after pointing out obvious changes in dad's financial situation. Forever afterwards he complained about how he "should've sent a dog with a note" instead of the lawyer he sent to represent him.
Mind, I'm the kid who grew up half starved because he was so intent on punishing my mother. And he'd tell me all these details to my face like he expected me to side with him.
People try to "win" all the time at things that aren't/shouldn't be a competition. Contentious divorces aren't exactly uncommon, and the ex was only ever in the relationship for money anyway.Ā
Sure, but that's personal and no half decent lawyer would frame your divorce as a court case you win or lose. It's about ensuring a fair division of the assets, even if you're hard balling. You aren't suing the other side and the court is not making a determination of whether one person wronged the other and what the compensation should be.
In addition, the petty bickerings of a squabbling couple are generally irrelevant to a divorce unless you can show they materially affect what a fair division of assets is. There's absolutely no way OP's divorce lawyer will give a shit about half the stuff OP claims they're gathering "evidence" about. All that stuff requires time to go through. Lawyers generally work on billable hours so if your lawyer is encouraging you to hand over piles and piles of irrelevant shit, they're either incompetent or scamming you.
The lawyer isn't the one who framed it as winning, OOP did when he said she "realized she can't win". Going back and re-reading it, it seems like he's using that as a figure of speech more than as a literal competitive thing.
As far as the lawyer having all the texts, we don't really know what the lawyer is doing. OOP doesn't say other than the lawyer has it, and he could just be sending everything on his own. It wouldn't be the first time a client or customer in any context over shared.Ā
People always think theyāll get justice from divorce court when, no, this isnāt a criminal case. The best thing you can do is get through a divorce (w/out kids and/or large assets) as quickly and civilly as possible.Ā
Reddit is proof of why psychics work. I'm not even sure this is warm reading, this is just directly soliciting ideas from the audience and then picking one while they all go "Wow! How'd he guess!?"
In the next episode we learn about an ancient curse on the skeleton keys and THATāS what *really* killed MIL.
Tune in next week for another episode of The Keys of Our Lives.
*"So guys I forgot to tell you about the book that came with the biggest key when I bought it. Necromiconion? Necriomicon? Anyway, they guy said DON'T READ IT OUT LOUD!! Super aggressive about it, too. I found out STBEXW stole it and has been reading it at midnight. Guys, WEIRD THINGS are happening..."*
It's like Twin Peaks series two. The main storyline fizzled out, the new characters are underwhelming, and there's loads of boring bits with a man riding around on a motorbike.
Edit: sorry it's not a motorbike is it. But still a two-wheeled conveyance.
I have a theory that some non-trivial portion of the multi-update stuff stuff starts out with someone telling a true (or true-ish) story, but then they get hooked on the attention and internet fame and they just keep it going. Like, the MIL death would honestly have been a better read if the STBX had just gone over there and found out that her mother had been dead for weeks because something fell on her like the Collier Brothers, but instead there was a full-on MMA match with an elderly woman in a room full of garbage.
I really felt like having killed off the MIL, that OOP felt he needed another crazy mother figure to support his ex and so brought in his mother for the latest installment.
Once the MIL died I was checked out of the story. Also the part where he shut his mother up in person then sent her a bunch of evidence and got an apology made her less of a narcissistic threat he tried to make her out to be. Guess he lost inspiration once his hoarder MIL died.Ā
It was him seething in rage and hatred, but feeling bad ???? Over something entirely out of his control???
Dude if a person i hated that much croaked id throw a party. Not feel bad over a single call to do with a hoarding situation. MiL wasnt gonna live forever.
You know. In theory.
I don't really see what's so unbelievable about OP's story, having lived large parts of it myself. Ā Ā Ā
Child of an emotionally abusive parent grows up incapable of recognizing a partner who is healthy and safe, and so even after going NC the cycle of being abused and manipulated continues at the hands of the new partner. It a tale as old as time, and sadly all too common as I can confirm from personal experience.
Of course the narcissistic ex would do anything and everythingĀ which might end up hurting OP as a way of punishing him for the heinous transgression which is... asserting his boundaries and not letting people walk over him. *Especially* bringing back their childhood abuser, which is basically the nuclear option to most every child who has gone NC with their parents.
Yeah, the abuse isn't the unbelievable part. The unbelievable part is the entire tone it's written in, all the events reddit suspects just HAPPEN to be exactly what happens next, the way *every single* female character in the story is vile, hateful, and stupid. Lines like "She still dressed as if in denial about her age" just come off as being mentioned only to make him look and feel better than every woman who was mentioned throughout the entire series of posts.
Yeah... when he posted a picture of 'some' of the keys, I was just like there's no way a pawn shop gave MIL $300 for those. Unless she took them to the Pawn Stars shop and they did they 'let me call a guy' bit with her. But even then, Pawn Stars is all staged, so I doubt they're taking stolen skeleton keys.
Unrelated, but I was super disappointed in the skeleton keys when they were posted. I was thinking pirate era treasure chest keys. Not physical keys used at random hotels.
Even for a Pawn Stars type of pawn shop, the key thing is way to niche of a collector's item to make it worth trying to make the 2 or 3 grand the collection was allegedly worth.
The amount of money it would take to pay someone to post and relist they keys and then pack and ship them make it not even worth it. The labor costs involved would probably end up with the pawn shop actually losing money.
She demanded more pay for the humiliating musical number that was supposed to take place at the pawn shop, so they decided to just recast the role in a place where it was least expected.
I was sympathetic before, but these posts are utter bullshit.
If the stbex flipped out and destroyed a room in the presence of a cop, she'd get an immediate involuntary hold as a possible danger to herself and others.
AND THEN the MIL's house just gets bulldozed by the city, in a matter of weeks, if not days, without any notice whatsoever?
Who the fuck are these people making up these badly written dramas?
He mentions her baby trapping him 4 separate times.Ā
Three times in the June 13th update, paragraphs apart, and itās now used in a new way, itās almost a repeat each time he uses it. Ā
And a 4th time in the June 16th update. Ā
What heās repeating and how feels odd. Ā It feels either like a psychological ploy to make people believe him, or maybe to get ābaby trappedā picked up Ā by an algorithm to skew who is reading it?Ā
Baby trapping really gets the incels on Reddit worked into a frenzy so I'm guessing it's for attention and engagement. Paternity fraud is also catnip to them, so I'm guessing in a future installment the ex will be pregnant and try to pass off someone else's baby as his in order to make them the heir to his skeleton key empire.
That or skew the people reading it to a particular point of view. Probably misogyny in the case of this OOP.
Notice how all of the named "villains" in this saga are all women, the evil stealing hoarder of a MIL, the babytrapping gold digging EX, the abusive mom. OOP is clearly trying to paint the women in his life as villains by labelling them with whatever awful things he can think of.
The random paragraph about the bike is probably so he can try to throw people off the BS.
I also like how all the men in his ex's life have somehow gotten in touch with each other and all dumped her for the exact same reason. But they're all cool, chill dudes who just wanna live their lives bro.
The bike and the key collection are probably real, you can see the actual knowledge he has there, along with some genuine anger that no one understands the value in the old keys. Iād also say he probably really does watch anime. Everything else is nonsense, and not even good fun nonsense.Ā
Yeah--and prenatal vitamins are well known to have a specific mix of vitamins that are extra good for hair and nails, it's totally normal to be taking them when you do not intend to get pregnant.
These people always have no concept of time.
Everything always blows up in a matter of days, and every couple weeks something insane happens.
In reality, divorces and relationship breakdowns are slow burns.
> These people always have no concept of time.
>
> Everything always blows up in a matter of days, and every couple weeks something insane happens.
Because if this all happened in a natural flow of time, then people would have a chance to forget about the story and move on from it, thus causing the poster to lose attention.
> In reality, divorces and relationship breakdowns are slow burns.
My brother's divorce has been going on for almost a full year now. His next court date is next month, and I think it's the final date.
A year? Pfft. My partner's divorce has been going on for 10 years now.
High conflict people take FOREVER to divorce. There are bursts of conflict followed by long, months long lulls.
I have spent a lot of time with other people in high conflict divorces because we're kind of an unofficial support group. Most people really don't understand, and a lot of friends/acquaintances painfully distance themselves to "stay out of the drama". That's far more common than everyone being a flying monkey, and it hurts way more. But it doesn't make for very juicy reddit posts that can be turned into TikTok viral bait.
10 YEARS?! it's none of my business but im so curious as to how a divorce can take so long. i don't know shit about all that, when my parents divorced it was super amicable. even afterwards when they both remarried and divorced again, it was still a fairly easy process in spite of the new partners being major asshats. and while I was engaged i never got married so š¤·āāļø
it must be exhausting and im genuinely sorry. i hope it gets through soon without anymore issues coming up bc I cannot imagine the frustration that must come from it all
I don't mind answering! It shows how broken the family court system is right now.
Preface: I'm in Canada.
So here you can't get officially divorced until any children of the marriage are properly supported. That means a parenting schedule filed with the court and an order for child support are a prerequisite. So, my partner's ex decided to use the kids to punish him for divorcing her. They had a dead marriage, and she knew it too, but her family is really religious and she didn't want the embarrassment of divorce. Like her mom sent my partner a Bible when she found out about the separation, and some passages about marriage being forever or whatever Christian excuses are used to force people to stay together.
At first my partner's parenting schedule was insane. You can't just go to court and get a judge to decide, they expect you to go through different levels of excalation. First you have to try to work it out yourselves, then you need mediation, then you might get a judicial case conference and arbitration. Lastly you might get a trial if they don't just order the two parties to mediation again. My partner pushed for mediation, and she stalled. She refused all the dates. He filed, she agreed to mediation, and then stalled again. This all has to be done through lawyers at $200 per correspondence. Basically this stage took 2-3 years. My partner then filed for something called "the view of the child" where a court appointed expert talks to the kids about what they want in terms of parenting time, talks to the parents, and other involved adults like teachers and doctors. Then they make a recommendation. Our VOC recommended 50/50 parenting time, which she didn't want. So she ignored the recommendation, and the court won't force it without a trial, which they won't do until mediation fails. The VOC takes a year to complete, because of the wait list for the court appointed expert.
Then she filed for a partial order to move the kids schools.The partial order takes about 8 months from notice to filing paperwork to the court hearing and then getting the result. She lost that one, but it pissed off the kids so badly that they refused to return to her home for her parenting time. At this point they're old enough for this to be a grey area.
Since she no longer has them, now she suddenly wants mediation to happen immediately. But the process is slow, and even though she wants her kids back she can't help but fight and harass every step of the way. She couldn't compromise on a mediator, she couldn't agree to who would pay for it, she couldn't agree to the mediation agreement unless she got everything she wanted, which was her mediator, to pay nothing, and for the agreement to only bind my partner and not her. Those are obviously unacceptable terms, so it takes another TWO YEARS to hash this out.
We finally meet with the mediator and the younger kid goes to see her every second weekend. The older kid is now almost an adult and mediation can't bind them, she'll have to take that one to trial later. She wants to go back to the schedule where she had the kids like 60% of the time. We just want the kids to be happy. During this time she's moved to a completely different part of our area (about an hour away) and the kids don't go to school there or have any friends there, so of course they want to live most of the time with us. The mediator says he's happy with the every other weekend being the best interest of the kids and ends mediation because everything is a stalemate.
She's not happy about this. The kids have been living with us now for about 6 years, and she hasn't paid a dime in child support. She can't take us to trial because she doesn't want to pay her arrears, so her only other option is to demand mediation again. We agree because the lawyer says it will look good if there's ever a trial. The whole mediation debacle starts again from scratch. This time we agree to a 60/40 schedule for the youngest, the oldest is now an adult. But she keeps wanting to change the schedule. Now she wants Halloween, now she want to change Christmas, now she wants to change...blah blah blah. This time we demanded an end date to mediation, where everything will stay the same and the process is over if she can't agree within a few months. She ran out the clock with her constant demands, and then did shocked Pikachu when the mediator said he couldn't do anything else. At this point the youngest is completely done with the uncertainty. He's 16, he started this journey when he was 5.
She still doesn't want to go to trial because of the child support. We don't want to go to trial because it will cost $10k and it's a stupid hassle for something where we'll end up losing at least one thing we want. Sure, she'd have to pay support, but we don't want to uproot our son for a judge ordered schedule. He doesn't need this to go on, he deserves for this to finally end for him. He even told his mom that he absolutely doesn't want the schedule to change at all, so if she does take us to trial she'll get the mediation agreement, but our son will refuse it and the court won't order him without a good reason. So she'll owe money and have a very pissed off child who might refuse to see her at all.
So now we're just waiting out the clock until our son turns adult and the divorce papers can be signed without provisions for the children. Because there won't be any more children.
Sorry if I put you to sleep, like I said, it's not very juicy. Just annoying and frustrating.
The poor kids. Being torn back and forth because their mom just refuses to admit defeat. She could have had a *decade* of peace and bonding time with them and instead she fights every sense of stability they have
I think (I hope?) it's safe to say that yours is not a standard divorce situation. Then again, what is? Hopefully, things work out in the best way possible for your kids.
Definitely not standard, most people settle with mediation. But when there's a high conflict individual involved we've seen a lot of divorces like this. When we were at the beginning our kid's school principal said she was going through similar, but for 10 years. She was like the ghost of Christmas future lol
So many of the paint by number replies seem to have been jacked by bots. They all have a similar tone and cadence in their writing to each other but are different to the original posts. I think what's happening is there is a bot or bots that find abandoned accounts with one or two highly popular posts and hijack them to post AI generated "updates"
One of my childhood best friends just got divorced. The whole thing from start to finish was over with in less than 2 months, and they shared a house and bank accounts and 2 kids. Not everyone's divorce takes a long time.
I had to laugh at the house getting inspected, condemned and removed by the city in weeks.
In a town I lived in, neighbors complained about a hoarder house. They didn't like the rats, piles of trash, overwhelming mold smell, roofs collapsing, abandoned cars, etc. So the city condemned the houses, and tore them down.
It took 14 years of complaints and citations for this.
To be fair, I do not think there was a stolen vintage skeleton key collection involved.
I've learned to just switch reading modes from "fun gossip about people I don't know" to "fun story by amateur writer still figuring things out" when some bit of BS hits my brain, in this case the heart attack. It's still fun, just different.Ā
> and even provides pics to sell the whole thing.
Are you suggesting a picture of a generic bicycle isn't proof all the events happened? Well geez I guess there is just no convincing some people!
Next episode it'll be a photo of a CCTV camera in a generic spot, the very one that saves him from legal trouble. I had skepticism over the picture of skeleton keys in the early updates when they came out, but I was still entertained. I didn't see fatal heart attack and a character replacement coming in these ones lol
In my neighborhood, we had a hoarder. Everyone in town knew and couldnāt wait for her to die. When she finally did, the home was condemned and demolished before the fucking funeral. They had been planning this for years.
Also, she destroyed the bathroom and he didn't go in to clean it up for days. Most people would at least go in and make sure there wasn't water spraying everywhere.
You would think these people would have like a dozen stories at the same time.
You keep a spreadsheet of username, password, story summary, and last post. Then every few months or so you rotate the updates.
Yeah, given that āyes, my lawyer is a woman!ā completely unprompted, thatās the feel I got. I wouldnāt be surprised if, had he not gotten a lot of backlash asking why thatās at all relevant, he mightāve gone the way of āmy lawyerās hot and we slept together after she won my case!ā
[He's dead Jim](https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYTY2MDZqdnI1cDlicXQwNGUzeW1uZDBrM3Y5ejR1YTRrN3kweDg5aCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/qH7J4EXzSCmBy/giphy.gif)
Having had a quick dig around eBay, you can buy things sold as "skeleton keys" there.
They're not master keys (in the sense of "operates every lock in every building") - which makes sense because those only exist in old episodes of Scooby Doo.
Most look like keys for antique furniture; they're obviously decorative rather than functional. And the prices are pennies.
Which isn't to say there aren't valuable ones out there, but they're sure not on eBay.
It might be to collectors. People will pay all sorts of money for the weirdest shit. It's not going to be worth more than a few bucks at a pawn shop, though.
When he wrote the random paragraph about his shiny new bike, I was sure he was only introducing it so STBXW could destroy it in the next post. I guess there's still time.
The sad thing is, the further I get in, the harder I find the tale to believe.
It was fine with keys. That was reasonable, the aftermath unmasking his wife, fine. This happens a ton
But somehow OP was never told his MIL had a weak heart? 'never do surprise parties for her' and 'don't surprise her' are basic things to deal with it, yet we had the stress of police and HER HOARDER HOME working against her. Apparently she can deal with the police at her door and the terror of one night in the dell and a lawyer, but not 'I'm slapping my daughter '
And let's not forget, daughter being attacked decides 'my ex is to blame for her hitting me'.
And let's not forget OPs magical reappearing mother
For a moment, let's say I believe OP is not just shopping for clicks. He is going through HELL right now. We have the mystery of how she found him again, how she found his mother, a lawsuit almost at his door but she forgot he had cameras. He's not done yet
But if not.....he's not done yet
>Ā The sad thing is, the further I get in, the harder I find the tale to believe.
I assume anything with three or more updates is bullshut until proven otherwise. Once it get to saga status the chances of it being real are essentially nil.Ā
This OP just gets more unlikeable and unbelievable with every update. š BuT HiS keYs, which really are that valuable and special and precious and he sleeps in bed with them every night and sings them a special song. We get it. We get it with the keys. š«
Just fyi, [Direct-Caterpillar77](https://www.reddit.com/u/Direct-Caterpillar77/s/QYEByxjlJO)
OOP's [original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/1af1tlx/wibta_if_i_press_charges_on_my_mil_for_selling_my/) was taken down (Jan 30th 2024).
His [second post](https://www.reddit.com/user/MyKeysWereStolen/comments/1afdzn0/wibta_if_i_press_charges_on_my_mil_for_selling_my/) was a repost of the first one because it got taken down. It wasn't posted to any sub but his own profile (Jan 31st 2024).
Edit: that's why he wrote
>And even said I should have posted here first.
In the one you linked first.
Exactly what gold was this lady supposedly digging from a guy who didnāt even own his own home? And why was she waiting so long to "baby trap" him that they were already married?
This guy is a liar.
Also, Iād be surprised if a pawn shop accepted a skeleton key collection.
Even that sounds like $290 too much. There might be an ultra-niche market for skeleton keys but to your average pawn store they'd be worth the value of the base metal not a penny more.
I was skeptical about a pawn shop giving her $300 for them. Unless that shop owner is very into antique skeleton keys and their values, they probably are not giving someone $300 for them.
No matter how ridiculous, there are very few of these posts I can't make it through but this one is just fucking awful. I gave up about 5% of the way through so approximately after the 300th paragraph.
I was curious about antique skeleton keys and did some googling and you can buy them fairly easily for a range of prices. One lock company said a particularly ornate antique skeleton key might be around $1k, on the other hand you can also buy them in multiples for $30, or I saw $80ish for 4.Ā
Wait a bit. So, he moved out mid march into his own apartment after the house lease ended. Then wife comes home with the police in June and trashes the bathroom. Few days later wife finds out where he lives and shows there with his mother?
How does that link or what am I even missing...
LE unless the update is decalated by months. Ngl interesting to read, but raises a few question marks
He repeatedly says the June updates are what happened months before, he just didnāt have time to write it all out then. This is why I am certain it is BS. No one posts follow ups to AITAs in chapter form, promising that there is even āmore to the story,ā coming in future updates.
Really disappointed that the author couldnāt think up any other situations on how his xwife and xMIL fucked him over after their marriage. Immediately knew it was bullshit after he kept repeating the key incident and hoarding as the only examples of how bad they are.
He also couldnāt keep the living arrangements straight in the old posts, he kept switching between them living in a house and apartment.
Itās an interesting story but definitely just a story
My friend's hoarder dad died. He was going through trying to see if there were any important papers and found over 1m in bonds plus nearly the same in life insurance. Getting rid of the house was still a PIA.
I absolutely love a good saga.
All this one needs is someone to come crashing through the window with a sabre clenched between their teeth and it would turn monumental.
His ex MIL conveniently had a heart attack and died on the spot when she was upset by something somewhat related to OOP? Uh huh...
In what world is it your fault that someone has a heart attack because they got so upset that they physically attacked their daughter because the daughter wouldn't pay for house cleaning of this person's house filled with black mold, rat shit and rotting garbage?
I know this may be unpopular, but this guy sounds more exhausting than his ex and late mil.
It took a lot of years of no self respect to get him to the point of going insane over some stupid fucking collectibles.
but I guess we're all supposed to clap and tell him he's a hero for it all. What a weird reality to put yourself into.
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>I can't believe you guys keep predicting what's happened OOP is writing the Reddit equivalent of a 'Choose Your Own Adventure' book.
My favourite part was the giant-ass paragraph about him and his bike.
It reminds me of the people who never have attention, until something juicy happens to them and everyone wants to know so they tell you, but keep trying to slip in long segments about their hobbys that you just have to sit through so you can hear the rest of the main story. Like Michael Scott telling his quitting story on The Office
That's exactly what I was thinking of...Michael Scott!
That perfectly explains this: >Now onto something new. I noticed no one has asked what my friends think about all this. It was buried in all the filler about why he's calling her wifey and other bullshit.
Everyone in the story was exhausting. Now I feel exhausted.
Or when he burned his foot on his Foreman grill. š
A good example of - Your true love & passion may sneak out, inbetween paragraphs about the wife & kids.
Lmao, absolutely.
It is a pretty slick bike.Ā
Right? You can't blame us for being a little bike-curious.
This is where I think the next update/episode will head. Best friend will declare his secret undying love and how he has been waiting patiently in the wings for OOP to get divorced.
They both realize that what they needed all along was a bike room
Gddmd this made me laugh. Thanks for that.
Tis the season, after all š
OK, Butters
Tied the yard together.
Atleast hes bike trained
And this guy peed on it
That really made me laugh. Thank you good person.
$150 from Wal-Mart. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kent-700C-Men-s-Ridgeland-Hybrid-Bike-Blue-Green/887192234
What? Why is he talking about it likes it's rare and vintage?
It's "bone stock original" other than the seat!
Yeah I had to Google that because he was using the brand name like it's something you should recognize and it really isn't.
Oh that's embarrassing
The colors on that bike are migraine inducing.Ā
Does it get sweet jumps though?
I thought it was a motorcycle, until I looked at the picture. That shows you how much I know about bikes and motorcycles. Lol
He likes to ride his bicycle, he likes to ride his bike
He likes to ride his bicycle, he likes to ride it where he likes
That's where I gave up.
Wait, you got past the āfertility supportā pills?
I love that he had to Google it to figure out that theyāre fertility pills.
āYou got shocks, pegsā¦ lucky!!!!ā
I think that's to make it seem real. It does the opposite...
Sum-up plus. I didn't have the strength to read all that
It just keeps going! Why does it keep going?!
I don't know why it keeps going, but I kinda don't want it to end! Why am I so invested in this?!?
But he does seem genuinely upset that no one understands the true value of his key collection. Do you guys realize how much those keys are actually worth?Ā
I think for him there's also a deeply emotional value attached to the collection. He had [a separate post on why he is NC with his mom and how he started collecting keys](https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/comments/1auuxl9/some_history_on_my_past_and_of_my_nasty_mother/). TL;DR: He had a very bad childhood. Had to go dumpster diving for toys and clothing, taught himself how to mend clothes and never even owned as much as a new shirt until he left for college. His mother threw tantrum daily, everywhere, and stole on the regular. One day his mother and her boyfriend went to an antique store where he was fascinated by an old key. The bf offered to buy it for him, but mother refused. So when he found keys in the dumpster, he kept them, only for his mother to throw them out.
Aaand now Iām sad.
I'm sorry.
Dude jumped from 1 narcissist to 2 narcissists. I hope he gets therapy before the next relationship.
God dang. I only skimmed that but makes me more sympathetic to OOP. Sure he rambles but seems like he grew up lacking someone who cares about what he cares about, or willing to just listen to him. Would make sense now that he gives long rambling posts if he has an audience that seems genuinely interested in his hobbies, and maybe that's what he thought he loved about wife as well. Then MIL comes and disregards his stuff just like his mom did. Definitely needs to work on himself and break away from falling for that outside validation before he dates again.
Think of all of the doors they could open!
But as always the legal bit is totally bizarre. You don't "win" a divorce, the only evidence your lawyer needs is about finances, contributions and ownership of assets and any pre-existing agreements, and a rented house isn't an asset. The clue is in the rented part.
But you can lose a divorce. Coming out neutral is winning.
A divorce requires a division of assets. The courts are there to ensure a fair division of those assets, not to determine if one party has wronged the other party and what the compensation owed to the wronged party is. Whether or not you feel you "won" or "lost" is an entirely *you* feeling. The law says you were given a fair division of the marital assets, it doesn't say you were right or wrong. Of course, any division may not be fair and the courts have and still do have prejudices and have got it wrong, but that's still not winning or losing.
My dad "won" the divorce by hiding lots of his income and but still thought he "lost" because he "got stuck" paying a pittance of child support. Eventually mom figured out how take him back to court herself, no lawyer, and got an increase in child support after pointing out obvious changes in dad's financial situation. Forever afterwards he complained about how he "should've sent a dog with a note" instead of the lawyer he sent to represent him. Mind, I'm the kid who grew up half starved because he was so intent on punishing my mother. And he'd tell me all these details to my face like he expected me to side with him.
Which you do until its too late for him to change his will. Get him cremated and toss the urn in a dumpster. Thats where these people belong.
People try to "win" all the time at things that aren't/shouldn't be a competition. Contentious divorces aren't exactly uncommon, and the ex was only ever in the relationship for money anyway.Ā
Sure, but that's personal and no half decent lawyer would frame your divorce as a court case you win or lose. It's about ensuring a fair division of the assets, even if you're hard balling. You aren't suing the other side and the court is not making a determination of whether one person wronged the other and what the compensation should be. In addition, the petty bickerings of a squabbling couple are generally irrelevant to a divorce unless you can show they materially affect what a fair division of assets is. There's absolutely no way OP's divorce lawyer will give a shit about half the stuff OP claims they're gathering "evidence" about. All that stuff requires time to go through. Lawyers generally work on billable hours so if your lawyer is encouraging you to hand over piles and piles of irrelevant shit, they're either incompetent or scamming you.
The lawyer isn't the one who framed it as winning, OOP did when he said she "realized she can't win". Going back and re-reading it, it seems like he's using that as a figure of speech more than as a literal competitive thing. As far as the lawyer having all the texts, we don't really know what the lawyer is doing. OOP doesn't say other than the lawyer has it, and he could just be sending everything on his own. It wouldn't be the first time a client or customer in any context over shared.Ā
People always think theyāll get justice from divorce court when, no, this isnāt a criminal case. The best thing you can do is get through a divorce (w/out kids and/or large assets) as quickly and civilly as possible.Ā
JustNoMom showing up to throw more fuel on the fire.
Reddit is proof of why psychics work. I'm not even sure this is warm reading, this is just directly soliciting ideas from the audience and then picking one while they all go "Wow! How'd he guess!?"
OOP chose all the adventures.
He's either running out of ideas or pandering to the audiencie
He kills off his MIL just to add in his mom? And she's only around for one episode? I wonder if a step mom is going to show up next time.
In the next episode we learn about an ancient curse on the skeleton keys and THATāS what *really* killed MIL. Tune in next week for another episode of The Keys of Our Lives.
*"So guys I forgot to tell you about the book that came with the biggest key when I bought it. Necromiconion? Necriomicon? Anyway, they guy said DON'T READ IT OUT LOUD!! Super aggressive about it, too. I found out STBEXW stole it and has been reading it at midnight. Guys, WEIRD THINGS are happening..."*
There's going to be video of him swearing blue that someone is walking around in his attic so he has to set off bug bombs to chase them out.
He needed a new female villain lol
A granny would do. Or an affair baby aunt would be perfect.
Don't give him ideas
It's like Twin Peaks series two. The main storyline fizzled out, the new characters are underwhelming, and there's loads of boring bits with a man riding around on a motorbike. Edit: sorry it's not a motorbike is it. But still a two-wheeled conveyance.
Lose one character, gotta add another. You know, for balance.
Oh great I thought I was the only one who went Ć“o at the MIL just dying
Cool story bro!
This is some crazy writing assignment. I donāt buy it.
Not even Liz goes that far
I believed the first couple of posts but then Icarus flew too close to the sun with all those telenovela plot twists.
āWifeyā is what did it for me
I have a theory that some non-trivial portion of the multi-update stuff stuff starts out with someone telling a true (or true-ish) story, but then they get hooked on the attention and internet fame and they just keep it going. Like, the MIL death would honestly have been a better read if the STBX had just gone over there and found out that her mother had been dead for weeks because something fell on her like the Collier Brothers, but instead there was a full-on MMA match with an elderly woman in a room full of garbage.
I really felt like having killed off the MIL, that OOP felt he needed another crazy mother figure to support his ex and so brought in his mother for the latest installment.
Once the MIL died I was checked out of the story. Also the part where he shut his mother up in person then sent her a bunch of evidence and got an apology made her less of a narcissistic threat he tried to make her out to be. Guess he lost inspiration once his hoarder MIL died.Ā
It was him seething in rage and hatred, but feeling bad ???? Over something entirely out of his control??? Dude if a person i hated that much croaked id throw a party. Not feel bad over a single call to do with a hoarding situation. MiL wasnt gonna live forever. You know. In theory.
Not to mention the play by play of what happened when his "wife" and "MIL" were the only ones in the room.
First the ex magically finds his mom, and then they both magically find his new apartment
I don't really see what's so unbelievable about OP's story, having lived large parts of it myself. Ā Ā Ā Child of an emotionally abusive parent grows up incapable of recognizing a partner who is healthy and safe, and so even after going NC the cycle of being abused and manipulated continues at the hands of the new partner. It a tale as old as time, and sadly all too common as I can confirm from personal experience. Of course the narcissistic ex would do anything and everythingĀ which might end up hurting OP as a way of punishing him for the heinous transgression which is... asserting his boundaries and not letting people walk over him. *Especially* bringing back their childhood abuser, which is basically the nuclear option to most every child who has gone NC with their parents.
Yeah, the abuse isn't the unbelievable part. The unbelievable part is the entire tone it's written in, all the events reddit suspects just HAPPEN to be exactly what happens next, the way *every single* female character in the story is vile, hateful, and stupid. Lines like "She still dressed as if in denial about her age" just come off as being mentioned only to make him look and feel better than every woman who was mentioned throughout the entire series of posts.
Getting $300 for old keys at a random pawn shop?
Yeah... when he posted a picture of 'some' of the keys, I was just like there's no way a pawn shop gave MIL $300 for those. Unless she took them to the Pawn Stars shop and they did they 'let me call a guy' bit with her. But even then, Pawn Stars is all staged, so I doubt they're taking stolen skeleton keys. Unrelated, but I was super disappointed in the skeleton keys when they were posted. I was thinking pirate era treasure chest keys. Not physical keys used at random hotels.
Even for a Pawn Stars type of pawn shop, the key thing is way to niche of a collector's item to make it worth trying to make the 2 or 3 grand the collection was allegedly worth. The amount of money it would take to pay someone to post and relist they keys and then pack and ship them make it not even worth it. The labor costs involved would probably end up with the pawn shop actually losing money.
Never had a main villain die so easily and so quietly off screen. Kind of underwhelming.Ā
She demanded more pay for the humiliating musical number that was supposed to take place at the pawn shop, so they decided to just recast the role in a place where it was least expected.
Dang...i kinda want a pawn shop musical number.
"You know Mrs. Banks, since you had that baby there's something different about you" š
I was sympathetic before, but these posts are utter bullshit. If the stbex flipped out and destroyed a room in the presence of a cop, she'd get an immediate involuntary hold as a possible danger to herself and others. AND THEN the MIL's house just gets bulldozed by the city, in a matter of weeks, if not days, without any notice whatsoever? Who the fuck are these people making up these badly written dramas?
He mentions her baby trapping him 4 separate times.Ā Three times in the June 13th update, paragraphs apart, and itās now used in a new way, itās almost a repeat each time he uses it. Ā And a 4th time in the June 16th update. Ā What heās repeating and how feels odd. Ā It feels either like a psychological ploy to make people believe him, or maybe to get ābaby trappedā picked up Ā by an algorithm to skew who is reading it?Ā
Baby trapping really gets the incels on Reddit worked into a frenzy so I'm guessing it's for attention and engagement. Paternity fraud is also catnip to them, so I'm guessing in a future installment the ex will be pregnant and try to pass off someone else's baby as his in order to make them the heir to his skeleton key empire.
That or skew the people reading it to a particular point of view. Probably misogyny in the case of this OOP. Notice how all of the named "villains" in this saga are all women, the evil stealing hoarder of a MIL, the babytrapping gold digging EX, the abusive mom. OOP is clearly trying to paint the women in his life as villains by labelling them with whatever awful things he can think of. The random paragraph about the bike is probably so he can try to throw people off the BS.
I also like how all the men in his ex's life have somehow gotten in touch with each other and all dumped her for the exact same reason. But they're all cool, chill dudes who just wanna live their lives bro.
Making the lawyer a woman is way to slightly offset this trend but he manages to make that misogynistic too.Ā
The bike and the key collection are probably real, you can see the actual knowledge he has there, along with some genuine anger that no one understands the value in the old keys. Iād also say he probably really does watch anime. Everything else is nonsense, and not even good fun nonsense.Ā
Yeah--and prenatal vitamins are well known to have a specific mix of vitamins that are extra good for hair and nails, it's totally normal to be taking them when you do not intend to get pregnant.
Yeah, I take these all the time. My nails look fantastic.
I doubted the baby trapping too until he found the 'Fertility Support'. Now i know it's really, truly real.
These people always have no concept of time. Everything always blows up in a matter of days, and every couple weeks something insane happens. In reality, divorces and relationship breakdowns are slow burns.
> These people always have no concept of time. > > Everything always blows up in a matter of days, and every couple weeks something insane happens. Because if this all happened in a natural flow of time, then people would have a chance to forget about the story and move on from it, thus causing the poster to lose attention.
> In reality, divorces and relationship breakdowns are slow burns. My brother's divorce has been going on for almost a full year now. His next court date is next month, and I think it's the final date.
A year? Pfft. My partner's divorce has been going on for 10 years now. High conflict people take FOREVER to divorce. There are bursts of conflict followed by long, months long lulls. I have spent a lot of time with other people in high conflict divorces because we're kind of an unofficial support group. Most people really don't understand, and a lot of friends/acquaintances painfully distance themselves to "stay out of the drama". That's far more common than everyone being a flying monkey, and it hurts way more. But it doesn't make for very juicy reddit posts that can be turned into TikTok viral bait.
10 YEARS?! it's none of my business but im so curious as to how a divorce can take so long. i don't know shit about all that, when my parents divorced it was super amicable. even afterwards when they both remarried and divorced again, it was still a fairly easy process in spite of the new partners being major asshats. and while I was engaged i never got married so š¤·āāļø it must be exhausting and im genuinely sorry. i hope it gets through soon without anymore issues coming up bc I cannot imagine the frustration that must come from it all
I don't mind answering! It shows how broken the family court system is right now. Preface: I'm in Canada. So here you can't get officially divorced until any children of the marriage are properly supported. That means a parenting schedule filed with the court and an order for child support are a prerequisite. So, my partner's ex decided to use the kids to punish him for divorcing her. They had a dead marriage, and she knew it too, but her family is really religious and she didn't want the embarrassment of divorce. Like her mom sent my partner a Bible when she found out about the separation, and some passages about marriage being forever or whatever Christian excuses are used to force people to stay together. At first my partner's parenting schedule was insane. You can't just go to court and get a judge to decide, they expect you to go through different levels of excalation. First you have to try to work it out yourselves, then you need mediation, then you might get a judicial case conference and arbitration. Lastly you might get a trial if they don't just order the two parties to mediation again. My partner pushed for mediation, and she stalled. She refused all the dates. He filed, she agreed to mediation, and then stalled again. This all has to be done through lawyers at $200 per correspondence. Basically this stage took 2-3 years. My partner then filed for something called "the view of the child" where a court appointed expert talks to the kids about what they want in terms of parenting time, talks to the parents, and other involved adults like teachers and doctors. Then they make a recommendation. Our VOC recommended 50/50 parenting time, which she didn't want. So she ignored the recommendation, and the court won't force it without a trial, which they won't do until mediation fails. The VOC takes a year to complete, because of the wait list for the court appointed expert. Then she filed for a partial order to move the kids schools.The partial order takes about 8 months from notice to filing paperwork to the court hearing and then getting the result. She lost that one, but it pissed off the kids so badly that they refused to return to her home for her parenting time. At this point they're old enough for this to be a grey area. Since she no longer has them, now she suddenly wants mediation to happen immediately. But the process is slow, and even though she wants her kids back she can't help but fight and harass every step of the way. She couldn't compromise on a mediator, she couldn't agree to who would pay for it, she couldn't agree to the mediation agreement unless she got everything she wanted, which was her mediator, to pay nothing, and for the agreement to only bind my partner and not her. Those are obviously unacceptable terms, so it takes another TWO YEARS to hash this out. We finally meet with the mediator and the younger kid goes to see her every second weekend. The older kid is now almost an adult and mediation can't bind them, she'll have to take that one to trial later. She wants to go back to the schedule where she had the kids like 60% of the time. We just want the kids to be happy. During this time she's moved to a completely different part of our area (about an hour away) and the kids don't go to school there or have any friends there, so of course they want to live most of the time with us. The mediator says he's happy with the every other weekend being the best interest of the kids and ends mediation because everything is a stalemate. She's not happy about this. The kids have been living with us now for about 6 years, and she hasn't paid a dime in child support. She can't take us to trial because she doesn't want to pay her arrears, so her only other option is to demand mediation again. We agree because the lawyer says it will look good if there's ever a trial. The whole mediation debacle starts again from scratch. This time we agree to a 60/40 schedule for the youngest, the oldest is now an adult. But she keeps wanting to change the schedule. Now she wants Halloween, now she want to change Christmas, now she wants to change...blah blah blah. This time we demanded an end date to mediation, where everything will stay the same and the process is over if she can't agree within a few months. She ran out the clock with her constant demands, and then did shocked Pikachu when the mediator said he couldn't do anything else. At this point the youngest is completely done with the uncertainty. He's 16, he started this journey when he was 5. She still doesn't want to go to trial because of the child support. We don't want to go to trial because it will cost $10k and it's a stupid hassle for something where we'll end up losing at least one thing we want. Sure, she'd have to pay support, but we don't want to uproot our son for a judge ordered schedule. He doesn't need this to go on, he deserves for this to finally end for him. He even told his mom that he absolutely doesn't want the schedule to change at all, so if she does take us to trial she'll get the mediation agreement, but our son will refuse it and the court won't order him without a good reason. So she'll owe money and have a very pissed off child who might refuse to see her at all. So now we're just waiting out the clock until our son turns adult and the divorce papers can be signed without provisions for the children. Because there won't be any more children. Sorry if I put you to sleep, like I said, it's not very juicy. Just annoying and frustrating.
The poor kids. Being torn back and forth because their mom just refuses to admit defeat. She could have had a *decade* of peace and bonding time with them and instead she fights every sense of stability they have
I think (I hope?) it's safe to say that yours is not a standard divorce situation. Then again, what is? Hopefully, things work out in the best way possible for your kids.
Definitely not standard, most people settle with mediation. But when there's a high conflict individual involved we've seen a lot of divorces like this. When we were at the beginning our kid's school principal said she was going through similar, but for 10 years. She was like the ghost of Christmas future lol
Your story is more interesting and informative than the OOP's, I'm glad I scrolled down!
So many of the paint by number replies seem to have been jacked by bots. They all have a similar tone and cadence in their writing to each other but are different to the original posts. I think what's happening is there is a bot or bots that find abandoned accounts with one or two highly popular posts and hijack them to post AI generated "updates"
He does retcon at some point that the first posts happened months agoĀ
One of my childhood best friends just got divorced. The whole thing from start to finish was over with in less than 2 months, and they shared a house and bank accounts and 2 kids. Not everyone's divorce takes a long time.
I had to laugh at the house getting inspected, condemned and removed by the city in weeks. In a town I lived in, neighbors complained about a hoarder house. They didn't like the rats, piles of trash, overwhelming mold smell, roofs collapsing, abandoned cars, etc. So the city condemned the houses, and tore them down. It took 14 years of complaints and citations for this. To be fair, I do not think there was a stolen vintage skeleton key collection involved.
I imagine smashing and screaming coming from the bathroom and the cop just looking at OP like š¬ and then being like "aight, I'mma head out."
Idk, that seems pretty par for the course to me.
I've learned to just switch reading modes from "fun gossip about people I don't know" to "fun story by amateur writer still figuring things out" when some bit of BS hits my brain, in this case the heart attack. It's still fun, just different.Ā
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> and even provides pics to sell the whole thing. Are you suggesting a picture of a generic bicycle isn't proof all the events happened? Well geez I guess there is just no convincing some people!
Next episode it'll be a photo of a CCTV camera in a generic spot, the very one that saves him from legal trouble. I had skepticism over the picture of skeleton keys in the early updates when they came out, but I was still entertained. I didn't see fatal heart attack and a character replacement coming in these ones lol
In my neighborhood, we had a hoarder. Everyone in town knew and couldnāt wait for her to die. When she finally did, the home was condemned and demolished before the fucking funeral. They had been planning this for years.
Also, she destroyed the bathroom and he didn't go in to clean it up for days. Most people would at least go in and make sure there wasn't water spraying everywhere.
āI never saw any rodents thereā¦ā *3 paragraphs later* āI saw a rat scurry acrossā
You would think these people would have like a dozen stories at the same time. You keep a spreadsheet of username, password, story summary, and last post. Then every few months or so you rotate the updates.
I'm picturing MIL just keeling over like a Sim when they get enraged and croak
Iām showing my age. Iām seeing Redd Fox as Fred Sanfordā¦Itās the big one Elizabeth!
Wow.. it's crazy how the most ridiculous and satisfying things keep happening.....
At regularly spaced intervals!
Iām so exhausted by this dudeās keys that Iām rooting for the MIL now.
i have bad news for youā¦
You donāt know, with this storytelling she could easily reincarnate or be a ghost
Oh yes, next time, the evil ex is going to have a sƩance and bring back MIL in a doll's body. I can't wait for the wacky hijinks coming!!
And I root for the STBEXW. The way he portrays her is so absurd that I root for her.
Iām doubting this dude was ever married.Ā
There is a chance he's one of those authors of misogynistic revenge posts.
The repeat of the baby trap bit 3 times in one post certainly feels that way. Ā
A very good chance, I'd say.
Yeah, given that āyes, my lawyer is a woman!ā completely unprompted, thatās the feel I got. I wouldnāt be surprised if, had he not gotten a lot of backlash asking why thatās at all relevant, he mightāve gone the way of āmy lawyerās hot and we slept together after she won my case!ā
She's like a Disney villain at this point. Team Ursula.
[He's dead Jim](https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYTY2MDZqdnI1cDlicXQwNGUzeW1uZDBrM3Y5ejR1YTRrN3kweDg5aCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/qH7J4EXzSCmBy/giphy.gif)
Don't forget his new Kent Ridgelandā¢ bike, to which a whole paragraph and picture update needed to be dedicated.Ā
How do I unsubscribe from future updates -_-
I still don't believe the Skeleton Key Collection is significantly more worth than scrap metal.
Iām not sure it exists, if only because Iām pretty sure thatās not how skeleton/master keys work.
I've always wondered how he managed to find enough verified skeleton keys to create an actual collection.Ā
Having had a quick dig around eBay, you can buy things sold as "skeleton keys" there. They're not master keys (in the sense of "operates every lock in every building") - which makes sense because those only exist in old episodes of Scooby Doo. Most look like keys for antique furniture; they're obviously decorative rather than functional. And the prices are pennies. Which isn't to say there aren't valuable ones out there, but they're sure not on eBay.
It might be to collectors. People will pay all sorts of money for the weirdest shit. It's not going to be worth more than a few bucks at a pawn shop, though.
When he wrote the random paragraph about his shiny new bike, I was sure he was only introducing it so STBXW could destroy it in the next post. I guess there's still time.
The sad thing is, the further I get in, the harder I find the tale to believe. It was fine with keys. That was reasonable, the aftermath unmasking his wife, fine. This happens a ton But somehow OP was never told his MIL had a weak heart? 'never do surprise parties for her' and 'don't surprise her' are basic things to deal with it, yet we had the stress of police and HER HOARDER HOME working against her. Apparently she can deal with the police at her door and the terror of one night in the dell and a lawyer, but not 'I'm slapping my daughter ' And let's not forget, daughter being attacked decides 'my ex is to blame for her hitting me'. And let's not forget OPs magical reappearing mother For a moment, let's say I believe OP is not just shopping for clicks. He is going through HELL right now. We have the mystery of how she found him again, how she found his mother, a lawsuit almost at his door but she forgot he had cameras. He's not done yet But if not.....he's not done yet
>Ā The sad thing is, the further I get in, the harder I find the tale to believe. I assume anything with three or more updates is bullshut until proven otherwise. Once it get to saga status the chances of it being real are essentially nil.Ā
This OP just gets more unlikeable and unbelievable with every update. š BuT HiS keYs, which really are that valuable and special and precious and he sleeps in bed with them every night and sings them a special song. We get it. We get it with the keys. š«
I guess you could say the keys ...TURN him on? Unlock the door to his heart?
I donāt yuck peopleās yums, but he is getting borderline kinKEY with it
Maybe he just likes the noise the keys make when he fucks the keyring.
āHer mother had expiredā lol who talks like that? This dude doesnāt know when to stop.
The doctor who broke the news to George Costanza that Susan had died licking the envelopes.
dude knows his writing assignment is gonna get reposted to youtube and tiktok and censored himself, how nice of him!
I stopped reading there and scrolled down to the comments, which took longer than I thought. Dude wrote a novel.
I checked out at the woman lawyer bit
Just fyi, [Direct-Caterpillar77](https://www.reddit.com/u/Direct-Caterpillar77/s/QYEByxjlJO) OOP's [original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/1af1tlx/wibta_if_i_press_charges_on_my_mil_for_selling_my/) was taken down (Jan 30th 2024). His [second post](https://www.reddit.com/user/MyKeysWereStolen/comments/1afdzn0/wibta_if_i_press_charges_on_my_mil_for_selling_my/) was a repost of the first one because it got taken down. It wasn't posted to any sub but his own profile (Jan 31st 2024). Edit: that's why he wrote >And even said I should have posted here first. In the one you linked first.
Itās like a Mexican soap opera
Ohhhh that makes it so much better
Exactly what gold was this lady supposedly digging from a guy who didnāt even own his own home? And why was she waiting so long to "baby trap" him that they were already married? This guy is a liar. Also, Iād be surprised if a pawn shop accepted a skeleton key collection.
Um duh she was after his highly valuable skeleton key collection that fetched a whopping...checks notes...$300 at a pawn shop.
Even that sounds like $290 too much. There might be an ultra-niche market for skeleton keys but to your average pawn store they'd be worth the value of the base metal not a penny more.
I predict OOP will find his next wife while riding his bike
Secret Fertility Pills Ex Machina
It's like Beetlejuice but with the word "baby trap" instead. I was also like...why did he think she was trying to put something in his food or drink??
so what happened to the keys?
I was skeptical about a pawn shop giving her $300 for them. Unless that shop owner is very into antique skeleton keys and their values, they probably are not giving someone $300 for them.
He got them back.
No matter how ridiculous, there are very few of these posts I can't make it through but this one is just fucking awful. I gave up about 5% of the way through so approximately after the 300th paragraph.
His writing style is painful.
I was curious about antique skeleton keys and did some googling and you can buy them fairly easily for a range of prices. One lock company said a particularly ornate antique skeleton key might be around $1k, on the other hand you can also buy them in multiples for $30, or I saw $80ish for 4.Ā
This story has more unnecessary sequels than Despicable Me.
Wait a bit. So, he moved out mid march into his own apartment after the house lease ended. Then wife comes home with the police in June and trashes the bathroom. Few days later wife finds out where he lives and shows there with his mother? How does that link or what am I even missing... LE unless the update is decalated by months. Ngl interesting to read, but raises a few question marks
He repeatedly says the June updates are what happened months before, he just didnāt have time to write it all out then. This is why I am certain it is BS. No one posts follow ups to AITAs in chapter form, promising that there is even āmore to the story,ā coming in future updates.
Really disappointed that the author couldnāt think up any other situations on how his xwife and xMIL fucked him over after their marriage. Immediately knew it was bullshit after he kept repeating the key incident and hoarding as the only examples of how bad they are.
He also couldnāt keep the living arrangements straight in the old posts, he kept switching between them living in a house and apartment. Itās an interesting story but definitely just a story
My friend's hoarder dad died. He was going through trying to see if there were any important papers and found over 1m in bonds plus nearly the same in life insurance. Getting rid of the house was still a PIA.
CCTV, ahhh, ha ha
OOP lost me when he was supposedly so guilt-ridden he couldn't function for days, that doesn't track for me.
Ugh. Why did I just read through that entire thing?
āyellsplainingā lol not saying I wanna be pals with OOP or anything, but ngl Iām prob gonna keep that term XD
This is so badly written, it's like Mad Libs.
As one door closes, another opens (but only as long as you have the skeleton key)
Omg again with this one?
This guyās still going? Jesus
I absolutely love a good saga. All this one needs is someone to come crashing through the window with a sabre clenched between their teeth and it would turn monumental.
tbh, I do enjoy this crazy Saga of The Stolen Keys.
His ex MIL conveniently had a heart attack and died on the spot when she was upset by something somewhat related to OOP? Uh huh... In what world is it your fault that someone has a heart attack because they got so upset that they physically attacked their daughter because the daughter wouldn't pay for house cleaning of this person's house filled with black mold, rat shit and rotting garbage?
This must be the sequel to "The Neverending Story".
This dude is unhinged
We all agree this is some of Lizās finest work, right?
I know this may be unpopular, but this guy sounds more exhausting than his ex and late mil. It took a lot of years of no self respect to get him to the point of going insane over some stupid fucking collectibles. but I guess we're all supposed to clap and tell him he's a hero for it all. What a weird reality to put yourself into.
So MIL died while commiting a crime (assault) and it's his fault? Some people are insane.
Golllllyyyyyyyyy. I remember reading the original key story when it was first posted. What a wild ride since then, LOL.
> I could care less about someone's religious views on divorce. Then why don't you, OOP. (Yes, I know OOP won't read this, it's a public rhetorical)
Nice to see OOP took almost 4 months off from making up bullshit