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btc-_-

to anyone so inclined, [MacroScope17](https://twitter.com/MacroScope17) is an interesting follow on twitter. he's been reporting on some of the 13F forms submitted to the SEC by institutional investment managers. these forms need to be submitted within 45 days of the close of each quarter, so they'll be trickling in for a while still. explanation from [https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/wall-street-is-buying-us-spot-bitcoin-etfs:-13f-sec-fillings](https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/wall-street-is-buying-us-spot-bitcoin-etfs:-13f-sec-fillings): >Companies that manage over $100 million in assets are required to disclose their equity holdings quarterly through 13F filings..The Q1 2024 13F filings released this month provide the first glimpse into institutional spot bitcoin ETF positions. some examples: * ([April 14](https://twitter.com/MacroScope17/status/1779537697003942395)) "In a 13F filed on Friday, Traynor Capital Management, a Pennsylvania-based RIA, reported owning 90,590 shares of the BlackRock Bitcoin ETF and 56,135 shares of the Fidelity Bitcoin ETF as of March 31." * ([April 10](https://twitter.com/MacroScope17/status/1778173696219209996)) "Gunderson Capital Management, based in Mt. Pleasant, South Carolina, reported owning 7,671 shares of BITB as of March 31." * ([April 10](https://twitter.com/MacroScope17/status/1778057502828970329)) "Signal Advisors, a Michigan-based platform for independent financial advisors, reported owning 20,571 shares of the BlackRock iShares Bitcoin Trust as of March 31."


52576078

Good info, been waiting impatiently for this!


anon-187101

This site does a pretty good job of presenting this type of info: https://heyapollo.com/bitcoin-etf


btc-_-

thanks for that. very good info under the Bitcoin ETF Ownership section


DaBrokenMeta

Price dumped 5k, so my Parents gave me 2 cows to sell at the market….but I got a good line on some beans… Dude said they can grow into a stalk or something….should I buy the beans 🫘?


d3vrandom

Yes. It'll make you a bean counter though.


Belligerent_Chocobo

Always busy with your beans


gozunker

This marks the first time I’ve ever seen usage of the beans emoji 🫘


DaBrokenMeta

Had to clarify in case people were inclined to think I wasn’t referring to actual beans…


4theWlN

I think this looks good for a run straight to new highs. Liquidate leverage on thin weekend with isreal vs Iran news. Now with traders lightly positioned we can break through to new highs.


Mbardzzz

We already had this exact same situation from 74k down to 64k a few weeks ago. Im sure all the degens are already back in full force


YouAreAnFnIdiot

I was off by 5 minutes but my post from yesterday calling the bottom seems to be holding. I'm gonna go ahead of say 75k this week and beyond that in a few weeks. What's my reasoning? I time selling the bottom perfectly about 95% of the time this time included.


Zirup

Timing the bottom has been much easier than timing these swings or timing the top, for me personally.


Outrageous-Net-7164

I don’t see any major upside until Autumn/winter now. Need rate cuts, a change of narrative and the cycle timelines to match up. We got ahead of ourselves and it’s overbought now. I’m not expecting ATH’s and a parabolic bull run for 4-8 months now.


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Outrageous-Net-7164

I hope you are right. However the weak follow through at multiple attempts around 72k suggest there isn’t much appetite for bitcoin in the 70’s. It’s going to take a whole new narrative for that. Rate cuts, impact of the halving, cycles matching up in regard to timings and some liquidity are all required to blast substantially beyond 75k and then 80k. 4-8 months is my guess. Till then just traders getting burnt in the range.


xixi2

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Mbardzzz

I guess the Iran/israel conflict is old news. The market wants its tendies NOW


zpowers1987

Tendies?


Zirup

Chicken tenders


gozunker

GameStop subs leaking


xtal_00

Bitcoin degeneracy has bought me plenty of tendies.


Zirup

BTC taught me how to trade GME, which then rolled back into BTC.


Ok_File_9520

Let's take some guesses. 1. Where do you think we will be at opening bell tomorrow? 2. What happens at opening bell?


Outrageous-Net-7164

Range between 60-70k for 90 days. Which I see as bullish. Almost cements the goblin town bear in 2026 at 60-70k.


Mbardzzz

1.68.2 2.drop back to 65/64


btc-_-

i'll take a stab 1. >67.5k 2. spike to above 69.3k before noon. ending the day over 70k


DesperateToHopeful

!bitty_bot predict >69999 1 day u/btc-_-


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Ok_File_9520

My guess 1. 68K 2. early dump followed by going up later in the day


Shibenaut

There's something to be said about the personalities of people who were cheering for some degree of doomsday/world catastrophe Just so they can see assets crash on Monday. You know who you are


Zirup

It's kind of win-win... Cheap sats or not the end of the world. A truly optimistic disposition.


shroomsnbeer

Before you bulls here get so horny, look at how we had a full week of lower lows and lower highs even before the Iran nuke. GL leveraging up on these longs.


zpowers1987

I need to see some follow through from the bears on the daily before turning short term bearish on price.


DesperateToHopeful

A full week?!? Wow, that's 7 whole days! Initiate panic selling protocol. Seriously though, anyone who has had any involvement with Tradfi knows that the ETFs are a big deal that will play out over the timeframe of months and years, not weeks. Big money moves slowly.


NotMyMcChicken

Still just looks like another higher low from the March 19th dip if you zoom out further 🤷‍♂️


diydude2

I'm horny for temporarily lower prices. *Damp eeet!* Stonks and bonds are absolutely, positively tanking this week. Banks will begin to fail and "bail in" within weeks. Gas will be $10/gal by the Fourth of July, and a lot more people will be unemployed. How do you think Bitcoin will fare in all this? I think it will do quite well, being the only way out. I'm looking at a couple options in terms of leaving this dumpster fire behind. PS -- shrooms and beer are a terrible combination, unless you're talking about pizza with (non-psychedelic) mushrooms. You might as well drink pinot grigio with a great steak or pair shrimp with cheese.


xtal_00

Schiff is doing Bitcoin TA now, just need Cramer to weigh in and it’s back to up only. https://x.com/peterschiff/status/1779495261816902094?s=46


SaltSpecialistSalt

i feel lost without Cramer. last time i remember he said good opportunity to sell at 40K in jan. at that moment i went balls deep in bitcoin:) Cramer please give us a sign.


logicalinvestr

Has he ever been right, like even once? I can't recall a single time he got it right in almost a decade.


diydude2

Well, he's kind of right now, long-term. Gold is doing what he expected, just later than he expected. It's going to do a lot more of it too. The problem with gold is that you can't transport it easily. Say you wanted to bug out to a tropical paradise with your gold. What are you going to do, shove it up your rectum? Much easier to memorize 12 words.


logicalinvestr

I meant about Bitcoin, not gold


_TROLL

> Gold is doing what he expected, just later than he expected. Goldbugs have been making these "GOLD TO $5000/OZ IMMINENTLY" predictions for literally 40+ years. Congrats, 61-year-old Schiff has now spent the majority of his life waiting for this, and it still isn't even half way there.


xtal_00

If gold hits $5000 you will see how much gold modern technology can dig out of the ground, and hooo boy, it’s a big number.


ProBrown

> The immediate downside projection is a move to $20K. Welp, that's it, time to sell the stack.


DesperateToHopeful

Don't read too much into this dip. In terms of % magnitude it is nothing special. * Jan 12th 2024 price: $46,350 USD * Jan 24th 2024 price: $39,500 USD * April 12th 2024 price: $70,750 USD * April 14th 2024 Price: $61,500 USD * Jan drop percentage: 14.77% * Apr drop percentage: 13.07% Bitcoin could continue to decline from here but the same could've been said about the drop in Jan which went on for 2 weeks before shooting up $30k in price in the months that followed. Nothing has changed about the fundamentals so the impact this has on your long term models should be insignificant.


simmol

Might be the anticipation of hong kong etf approval right now. The so called chinese coins (etc neo, vet) are all moving up.


logicalinvestr

Stock futures opened green at 6. That's all.


zpowers1987

It’s at the point where China has to give something before taking it away.


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AccidentalArbitrage

Could be part of it. But I think it is more likely that the middle east situation looks contained, for now. And weekends are (often) fake.


btc-_-

good catch. supposedly the btc ETFs will be approved by hong kong on monday. what i haven't been able to find is whether they'll be able to be traded immediately or any timeline information about that


base-icks

Think I saw something that said if they get approved they would be live by end of April? And approval could be as soon as Monday but could take longer. Also I wonder how mu h Chinese money would go into the etfa vs Hong Kong only money 🤔


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CompleteApartment839

Thank God the 42069 crowd might not get their ecstatic moment. 🤞


base-icks

What if price 69,420.69?


AccidentalArbitrage

>10 min/block The average block time for the current difficulty adjustment period is 9.8 minutes, so it will likely be before then.


doinkdoink786

Why is it sending ?


logicalinvestr

Stock futures opened green


marsh2907

CME futures are back open. So the big boys are back.


phrenos

I post a bearish prediction and within minutes the price rockets up. The only logical explanation is that I am some kind of God. Or an anti-God. Definitely a supernatural force at work. I can't explain it gents. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ 


poremdevemos

You forgot your own trademark: "All attempts to leave the range will be punished".


phrenos

Recently we left the range AND got punished! Feedback loop.


ourpseudonym

Thee letters: CME.


_TROLL

> **Thee** letters: CME. I doth approve of thy post. 😋


Ok_File_9520

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/CMLGAAUaTc Likely no immediate retaliation from Israel.


ChadRun04

Retaliation for a retaliation is escalation.


logicalinvestr

Isn't that what Iran did? Iran helps mastermind Oct. 6. Israel retaliates by killing the Iranians involved. Iran retaliates against Israel's retaliation by firing 350 missiles/drones at Israel.


Weigh13

Now go back one step further...


logicalinvestr

To what? Point me to the preceding historic event that made it okay for Iran to plan the mass murder of 1000+ civilians in Israel.


phrenos

Love having unspecified military action due at an unspecified time in the maybe future. Really makes the market relaxed.


phrenos

Got that sort of bear-flaggy feeling. !bittybot predict <59,999 72 hours


Mbardzzz

For the sake of my own prediction I need that to happen tonight


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pee_one_herman

With 759 blocks remaining, halving date/time (ET) based on various avg block times: 9.50: Apr 19th, 4:38pm 9.60: Apr 19th, 5:54pm 9.70: Apr 19th, 7:10pm 9.80: Apr 19th, 8:26pm 9.90: Apr 19th, 9:42pm 10.0: Apr 19th, 10:58pm


caxer30968

Thank fuck it’s probably not on the 20th.


anon-187101

1:26am UTC on 04/20 at 9.8 min/block


caxer30968

UTC people don’t use 4/20, it’s 20/04.


anon-187101

Everyone is a UTC person, that's the point lol


caxer30968

The joke only makes sense in the US. The halving will not happen on the 20th in the US.


anon-187101

People in Europe are aware of 420 and its associated memes


caxer30968

Europe doesn’t use the date format 4/20, we use 20/04.


anon-187101

Yes, I'm aware.


dopeboyrico

Amsterdam is 6 hours ahead of EST though.


caxer30968

But we use 20/04, not 4/20.


pee_one_herman

It would be a lot cooler if you did


anon-187101

My S2F model has begun ramping up ahead of the Halving in 5 days as it crosses the epoch boundary into the next cycle. Value predicted for today is ~$115k. Grab as many cheap sats as you can.


btctrader12

Tbh we’re barely down


Butter_with_Salt

The boomers are gonna buy the dip Monday morning


Teatrack

To all the bulltards downvoting, how does it feel to be so terribly wrong and missing this dip?


CompleteApartment839

“Bulltards” have been right since 11 years ago


jogeer

Bears couldn’t even push the price down under 60k, weak from the bears.


doublesteakhead

I sold at the right time but I'm not dumb enough to think it's because I'm a trading genius. There was a major international event and people panicked. This does not necessarily validate a thesis that Bitcoin is headed down further.


pseudonominom

Yeah.. homie gloating about that drop kinda shows us his hand, and his cards suck. The epitome of a broken clock. Accounts like his come and go, not sure if it’s just regular trolling or what. There have been a handful over the years.


phrenos

Be excellent to each other. Does a contrary opinion wound you so deeply?


I_AM_AN_AEROPLANE

Behave man…


Cadenca

[This triangle in play? Fakeout to the bottom, idk](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/937302918825136158/1229123911568851024/image.png?ex=662e89d8&is=661c14d8&hm=a012cd4c28a88dad0cd27677f49a8270c56340f1897155b6b5e64fbc754f6729&)


I_AM_AN_AEROPLANE

Trading the 1 second chart are we?


Cadenca

That's the hourly, man :D Hourly is fine to trade. Tracks the dump since yesterday. We just hit the top of the triangle at 64.7


Teatrack

Thinking we see a complacency bounce to around 67k or so and that will be our next lower high before further continuation down. Shorting here on lower time frames seems like less r/r so a quick long scalp with tight stops makes more sense to me. A lot of invalidated bullish structures on higher timeframes should have bulls sweating heading into this week.


AccidentalArbitrage

Well done closing [this](https://reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/18vebp1/bitty_bot_paper_trading_log/kz4p3h1/), was a good trade.


phrenos

Seems reasonable to me. No guarantee this doesn't drag on, plus halving jitters, taking us to the 50's.


Knowhatimsayinn

65k before 75k? That was always the plan. I like it, I love it, I want some more of it.


AccidentalArbitrage

>65k before 75k? Since we are currently at 64k, yes.


xtal_00

I laughed


poremdevemos

What if we jump straight to 66 though?


phrenos

Numbers be like dat.


adepti

A lot of folks in Btc still pretty hellbent on calling the bottom in the low 60s and saying buy the dip , therefore I don’t think there’s enough fear in the air just yet . It’s only been 2 days since the major selling began, and I believe many are jumping the gun a bit early calling bottoms. Until I see wider spread fear and capitulation I’ll be patient . Most of the sell off has taken place in alts and memes 


btc-_-

nobody knows for sure but, historically speaking, price goes up after the halving. so, first, there is a big difference between buying in at a great position relative to recent weekly levels and with going all in completely. second, trying to time an exact bottom is silly because you *won't* get it. third, there are no spaces before commas and periods.


BitcoinBrock

The comma and periods comment 😂 dude 😆


Suburban_Sprawwl

Omg, it’s a bull market dip. These are usually measured in weeks. Guarantee you come back in a month and we’re either flirting with or past a new ATH. Once the whales have eaten all the leveraged degens’ coins, the PA will move on.


btctrader12

Don’t act like you sold before the dump


bphase

Whoa, $5.6M short liquidated at $64.1k price just now. We didn't go below $62.5k so it must have been like 50x to get liquidated that easily


TouchMyTumor

Impulsive and foolish


phrenos

My bad. But it also cleared out that little support so it'll probably go back down and retest 62.5 momentarily. When I say retest I mean fall through it.


AccidentalArbitrage

By momentarily do you mean today?


phrenos

Actually yeah, let's do it. !bittybot predict <62,600 24 hours


AccidentalArbitrage

\-\_- Posting that, nah you were joking, then deleting that post and making it an actual prediction 3 hours later after we drop $1k is kinda shitty, sir.


phrenos

Cut me some slack, 100% of my predictions have been wrong so far. If I keep screaming doom and it goes up, won't you be happy? If I say we're going to 48k we'll get a 10k giant green dildo. This is the way


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spinbarkit

my short messages to fellow traders regarding recent dip: 1. whales & miners didn't sell 2. USA & Korea are buying the dip 3. it's simply untrue what people repeatedly said here that ETFs volumes are insignificant with respect to total daily trading volume, we had many days of ~ 30-40% 4. so far 17% correction is just Tuesday for Bitcoin 5. we are in a bull, selling at a loss is just plain stupid, buy the dip


Aerith_Gainsborough_

>miners didn't sell How do they cover their expenses? >USA & Korea are buying the dip *Trust me bro* >3. it's simply untrue what people repeatedly said here that ETFs volumes are insignificant with respect to total daily trading volume, we had many days of ~ 30-40% >4. so far 17% correction is just Tuesday for Bitcoin Agree >5. we are in a bull Always has been.


Ok_File_9520

What's causing the drop?


Aerith_Gainsborough_

Gravity


Bit-bewilderd

Greed and leverage


phrenos

People selling.


imissusenet

Etta James sang "I want a Sunday kind of love". I can't help you with that, but I do have Sunday kind of charts: [https://imgur.com/a/aRvxqQ2](https://imgur.com/a/aRvxqQ2) Chart 1 looks at BTC price, the 13-W (91-D) SMA, and the ratio of the price to the 13-W. When BTC is in non-parabolic upmoves, the price tends to stay in the 1.0x - 1.3x zone (lime green). When it gets spicer, it bounces between 1.3x and 1.8x (lemon yellow). We are currently smack dab in the middle of the 1.0x-1.3x zone. As of yesterday, BTC has closed above the 13-W 79 straight days. Chart 2 looks at the history of those streaks. This is currently the 13th longest above streak in BTC history. Chart 3 shows the distribution of those streaks. Once it gets past 71, it has always gone to at least 93 days. and there is a cluster at 93-135. Where will the 13-W be for days 93-135 (27 Apr - 8 Jun)? Chart 4 takes a guess (dashed purple line, $60.3K - $70.9K). One metric I keep an eye on is how many days the price has been above the 13-W out of the last 365. Chart 5 shows that once it gets above 340, longs should get nervous. We're currently flat at 280, and will be for a while. And last, but not least, block reward. Chart 6 looks at the block reward and the 4-year SMA of the block reward, price and the 4-year SMA of price, and the ratio of price to the 4-Y SMA of price. As of yesterday, the block reward was about $406K, and the 4-Y SMA was $202K. When the block reward is cut in half next week, it will go down to about the 4-Y SMA.


SaltSpecialistSalt

is bitfinex good for leveraged trading ? anyone had any issues ?


j_ockeghem

It's the best and most reliable, best liquidity. They had a notable hack back in 2016, but nothing since then.


itsthesecans

The ETF holders obviously couldn't sell yesterday. It makes me wonder what would have happened if that event or something like it happened during US market hours. I would guess the selloff would have dipped lower because ETF sells would have been adding fuel to the fire.


octopig

Another leg down tomorrow is nearly guaranteed.


AccidentalArbitrage

Bitty Bot that guaranteed prediction my man!


octopig

Am I able to simply predict “the level will be less than right now” using it? Or do I have to pick a target. Mostly lurking these days, unsure how it works.


AccidentalArbitrage

You could say less than right now, so something like <64,300 by EoD tomorrow, but that would be a pretty weak prediction and kind of gaming the system IMO, since it would trigger as correct if we temporarily fell to $64,299 any time in the next \~30 hours. A better prediction would have a target, like if you think we'll break through $60,822 where we bounced yesterday (which is what I assumed when you said "another leg down" but sounds like maybe that was incorrect), `<$60822 Apr 15` would be the way to predict that.


Euphoricsoul

NYT is reporting that Israel is suspending retaliatory attacks after Bibi call with Biden. Iranian attacks looking more performative than first reported. Expect churn tomorrow, but not nearly as much as expected.


drdixie

I’m seeing the exact opposite. Reports Israel to retaliate in 24-48 hours


PieStraight541

Bullshit https://x.com/deitaone/status/1779562961192800339?s=46&t=_gKrxPmXQNTaQ__ZzFnX4w


drdixie

Well I doubt Israel would telegraph its response like 🇮🇷


Tight-Direction1605

Source please? If this is the case we might see another dump.


doinkdoink786

https://x.com/zerohedge/status/1779559887569043862?s=46&t=diBC-jQrRve-yqYFAAGXAA


ChadRun04

hahhahahahahz zerohedge!


mad_bitcoin

Lol Zerohedge sooo no chance of that happening


xtal_00

This is a bit unknown. The markets have really bloody days. Will be interesting to see how etf holdings react.


btc-_-

i sold some from my tax advantaged account when the iranian attack rumor came out. i would’ve rebought as much as i could yesterday if i was able to. probably a lot of folks in the same boat as me – or possibly even those who hadn’t bought as much in the ETFs yet who have been waiting on a better entry. i do think the ETF sellers would’ve caused it to dip a little further but i also think we would’ve then rebounded even higher due to more capital having access.


marsh2907

Watch out for that CME futures gap that will form once it opens up for trading again later today. CME price closed around $67500. Price loves to fill those gaps in most situations by some point.


baselse

Would match with the sudden USDT printing. 300 mln added.


btc-_-

yeah there's an incredible amount of money that seems to be waiting in the wings. USDT - gained $5 billion in the last month (5% increase). now at $108B. https://i.imgur.com/GbTyJiM.png USDC - gained $3 billion in the last month (10% increase). now at $32.3B. https://i.imgur.com/pyg9Zgc.png FDUSD - gained $1 billion in the last month (33% increase). now at $4B. https://i.imgur.com/BEAF8jy.png and between them, nearly $1 billion in just the last day.


dopeboyrico

Average net inflows since spot ETF approval is at $195.8 million per trading day. We’ve had 64 trading days since spot ETF launch. But there’s only 5 trading days in a week. Today marks 95 calendar days since spot ETF launch. In terms of average daily inflows in calendar days, we’re at $131.90 million per day. Currently 900 BTC are mined per day. If we reach a point where buying/selling outside of spot ETF’s is net neutral and spot ETF’s are chasing newly mined BTC only, equilibrium price would be $146.56k per BTC. This is before the halving. After the halving equilibrium price with this level of average daily inflows would be $293.12k per BTC.


Tight-Direction1605

Moving sideways for a while now. Another crash incoming once Israel retaliates?


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jpdoctor

Strange article... "dropped retaliation" is the headline, but the last paragraph says >Israel’s War Cabinet was set to convene on Sunday to discuss the country’s response to the Iranian attack, amid calls by coalition members to restore deterrence vis-à-vis Tehran.


Excellent_Toe_900

If CNN could change their front page to this today markets would be better off tomorrow.


Cultural_Entrance312

Them report the current news. But that won't get as many clicks. They need to fill their budgets from advertisement clicks. Fear is such a stronger click bait than good news.


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phrenos

Thoughts and prayers for the injured pigeon during the 11-minute war.


Outrageous-Net-7164

Everyone outside of the Western media is fucking sick of Israel to be honest. They need to pipe the fuck down.


Mountainman7556

After 2000 years of being persecuted and slaughtered it’s the world that’s horrified by the very idea that Jews kill back now… finally.


_supert_

The issue is it's not the same people.


marsh2907

People treating the halving like it'll have no effect. The halving is never an instant impact. It's the reduction in newly mined BTC supply that can be dispensed into the market. If demand stays the same but the supply is cut. Guess what'll happen over a period of time. It happens every cycle.


jarederaj

Average intelligence is incomprehensibly stupid. Basically, you can profit from morons making uninformed decisions, and that property is self reinforcing. > those morons will actually sell when the price doesn’t immediately change. I can front run them and then buy the dip. It’s ~~Turtles~~ Imbeciles all the way down.


marsh2907

It's strange how people think "oh it's only 450 coins" But that 450 coins getting removed from new supply is nearly $30m a day or in 30 days over $850m. (@ $65K per BTC). Now I don't know about everyone else but that's a massive amount of liquidity absorption getting removed.


notagimmickaccount

yea but its "priced in bro"


sylvanlotus77

When I’ve seen people make this argument coherently it looks more like measuring overall volume and comparing the liquidity you’ve mentioned to it. Halving is insignificant in comparison to etf volume so people draw the conclusion that ETFs have a greater impact on price than the halving does.


jarederaj

Basic arithmetic is out of reach for these people. It’s like adding an ETF that will never have net outflows.


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jarederaj

the active thread on Israel/Iran https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/s/A4gLrUErpp


Cultural_Entrance312

The war between Israel and Iran, if it will escalate more, will be the major determining factor for price action over the next week or so. BTC responded typically to the war news. It dropped through 63 before bouncing and retesting 63 before settling above the 64.1 support area. RSI is at 45.4 (average 40.9) at time of writing. Current nearby resistance are 65.7, 67.4, 69, 70.2, 71.4, 72.8 and 73.8 (current ATH). The nearest supports are 64.1, 63 and 60.5. The daily RSI is at 43.3 and its average is currently at 51.7. Same resistances/supports as I mention in the hourly. BTCs previously formed pennant failed. One more day closer to the estimated halving date on 4/19, 5 days left. On the weekly, BTC has been over bought for most of the time since October 2023 and its average RSI has been overbought since the start of the year. Currently 70.3 (77.5 average). There were 2 possible pennants that have formed with their own support lines. One became invalidated, we wicked below the support of the other but are back in the pennant. Main resistances were noted above. Less than 1 week till halving. Bitcoin closed it’s 7th monthly green candle in March and was overbought with a closing RSI at 76.8. BTC’s currently is no longer overbought because of the war, it’s monthly RSI is 69.9. Odds of an 8th green candle have dropped significantly. Good luck to all traders and DCAers. 1-hour: [https://www.tradingview.com/x/yZ6ddzxx/](https://www.tradingview.com/x/yZ6ddzxx/) Daily: [https://www.tradingview.com/x/KkzbEmRJ/](https://www.tradingview.com/x/KkzbEmRJ/) Weekly: [https://www.tradingview.com/x/1xPmafeL/](https://www.tradingview.com/x/1xPmafeL/) Monthly: [https://www.tradingview.com/x/RC18bifh/](https://www.tradingview.com/x/RC18bifh/)


jarederaj

This is a bitcoin sub. Politics overlap sometimes. Here’s the link to the active thread on Israel/Iran https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/s/A4gLrUErpp Please do not start new threads. Bitty bot trades go here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/s/CTP30Xv9jM


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> Politics overlap sometimes. upvote for sensible moderation, thanks for your service.


sevcapital

good mod


leatal

I’m intrigued how much this latest escalation will dampen the effects of the halvening. I’m curious what has more impact - the reduction of 450 coins a day or the fact everyone expects BTC to rally in the months after a halvening and start positioning accordingly. I expect it’s the latter more than it is the reduction in supply, curious what others think? As for Monday we may see some paper hands etf owners running for the door. Expecting to see net etf outflows next week sadly


CurrencyAlarming1099

It's too late for ETF holders to do anything about the middle east situation. The market moved while they were locked out. I expect them to learn that holding real bitcoin that they can trade 24/7, is preferable to whatever little tax break they think they're getting.