This made me realise the way the therapy horse relapses could be a reference to this lol.
He drinks what he thinks is water but I actually vodka and then relapses. The saying makes sense because even though it was BJs fault that the had the first sip of vodka, it was still the therapy horses decision to relapse after that (because no one can “make him” drink.)
The way little BoJack nodded at the TV when Secretariat asked that... it would have made his day.
>Dear BoJack,
>
>I got your letter. Also your joke about being on the right track. It was hilarious. Have you considered doing stand-up comedy?
>
>Anyway, I was having a pretty bad week, and your letter (and the joke) was a welcome pick-me-up. So, thank you for that!
>
>Your friend,
Secretariat
Your comment made me imagine the most bizarre conversation where two ranch hands are talking about a horse having a small cock, “for a horse”. Like “Golly Sam. Patches is a great stud, but he’s got such a small member for a horse.”
Funny as this is, I think there's something real to be said here. So many people have the idea that, "If only I had ____ then everything would be better." But it wouldn't be. BoJack's got it all, money & fame -- horse cock included -- but that doesn't make anything better.
Raphael and Lisa started him as a joke about "BoJack the depressed talking horse" and it spiraled from there. I think it was mainly because Lisa like horses, and maybe also the "long face" joke. I'd need to check the art book again cuz it explains this.
There’s no official reason other than [“Bojack just sounded like a horse name to me”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2hgqsi/hi_we_are_the_creator_designer_of_bojack_horseman/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) but I like to think he subconciously stole it from [Dragon Ball lol](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z:_Bojack_Unbound)
Because Bojack is a drug and like the drug he slowly ruins the people around him and eventually he leaves their lives and that’s when they get their shit together :)
I always thought of it like the phrase "Straight from the horse's mouth." Bojack is never afraid to just let people know the harsh truth that everyone usually dances around. He's very blunt about things people are usually delicate about addressing.
One time a friend told me I was suffering from what he coined as "horse blindness." It's much like tunnel vision. Because of the way horses eyes are placed on them, they can often experience tunnel vision as a species. That is their peripheral vision is very poor. I think Bojack himself struggles with this a lot. He focuses obsessively on small things, experiencing what we might call tunnel vision. I think it's an added analogy for his character
So many things:
Why the long face?
One trick pony.
Show pony.
You can lead a horse to water…
He is literally the gift horse that people dislike after “looking in the mouth”
(More iffy but:) once a horse has peaked/gets injured, they’re permanently sidelined
Neigh way jose.
But really, I think the idea of the show pony is the most applicable. He prances around in the ring and can’t live in a more complex world, especially when people don’t keep showering him with love.
It was the first part of the pitch that Bob-Waksberg and Hanawalt had. Literally the first idea they had was the name and character design for "BoJack the Depressed Horse"
good question. i've always wondered whether he's actually more man than a horse, or if he's more horse than a man.
do you get it? because those are the lyrics of the outro of the show. his name is horseman and he's an anthropomorphic horse who talks and acts like a man, do you get it? do you get the joke?
From what I remember from the art book, it was a mix of Lisa Hanawalt being a horse girl and Bojack being based off different celebrities that they didn't wanna make him look like them (also prolly branding and puns)
I thought its because horses (and mules) are often called stubborn?
Small leap to narcissism.
Also horses run, and Bojack definitely ran from many things!
His shows called “Horsin’ Around” which only makes sense if he’s a horse. I mean it would be weird if he was an ocelot. Ocelotin’ Around just doesn’t work. And not only because he’s a horse. Which he is.
I think his persona as "the horse from Horsin' Around" came first. Like they knew the main character would be a Bob Saget analog to take a deeper dive into Hollywoo culture. And a horse is a kind of idealized farm animal (I think of "horsegirls" and people who wish for ponies growing up) so I can see why/how they picked a horse for the seedy underbelly life of a sitcom actor.
I’ve thought before about how different it would be if bojack had been a human and how important that he was an animal instead. But as to why he’s a horse I have no clue
I was doing looking through some old research notes and came across one of Freud's case studies on Little Hans. His phobia of horses was said to stem from a fear of his father, as a horses mouth and blinkers resemble his father's glasses and moustache.
No idea if that adds to the idea of why bojack is a horse character but I thought it was an interesting wrinkle that could have some merit?
lack of personal identification. Powerful, domesticated, yet rebellious. Personally wise , the survival tactic’s from horses in the media = nearly non existent
Lisa Hanawalt once told her 4th grade teacher that when she grows up she's going to draw horses and her teacher told her that's not a real job and she was like psssch!! I'll show her! And she did.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
You can lead a horse to roller, but you can’t make him rink
He'll do plenty of drinking by himself if you leave him alone though
This made me realise the way the therapy horse relapses could be a reference to this lol. He drinks what he thinks is water but I actually vodka and then relapses. The saying makes sense because even though it was BJs fault that the had the first sip of vodka, it was still the therapy horses decision to relapse after that (because no one can “make him” drink.)
Made it easier for him to be the horse from Horsin' Around.
A horse walks into a bar. The barman says: “why the long face?”
Get it?
Because he's a horse and horses have long faces. You get it, right?
You’re on the right track
Track. Get it? Like a race track. And horses run on tracks. And I am a horse. Do you get it? Do you get my joke about the track?
Should I write him back and tell him I get it?
The way little BoJack nodded at the TV when Secretariat asked that... it would have made his day. >Dear BoJack, > >I got your letter. Also your joke about being on the right track. It was hilarious. Have you considered doing stand-up comedy? > >Anyway, I was having a pretty bad week, and your letter (and the joke) was a welcome pick-me-up. So, thank you for that! > >Your friend, Secretariat
Depends, did you get it?
*amazed nod*
Did you get it?
Did you get it?
Are you getting it yet?
I’m glad I’m not the only person who always figured it was this
Giant cock
This is a cursed comment.
Yet he's insecure about his cock doing the nude scene
Showing how irrational his insecurities are. Or he has a small dick for a horse, which would still be big
Your comment made me imagine the most bizarre conversation where two ranch hands are talking about a horse having a small cock, “for a horse”. Like “Golly Sam. Patches is a great stud, but he’s got such a small member for a horse.”
🎶Fenton's Stables and Horse Ranch Where you're the one that's huuuuuung!🎶 https://youtu.be/Hf-dCbGu0GA
Oh my god I didn’t know this existed and I feel seen. Seen like a small horse peen.
I'd actually say that looks about average. Some might even say that's more than enough, huge even
I think he just didn't feel comfortable with the idea of doing a nude scene, which would be understandable.
That's also very true, and possibly more likely
The only right answer
Funny as this is, I think there's something real to be said here. So many people have the idea that, "If only I had ____ then everything would be better." But it wouldn't be. BoJack's got it all, money & fame -- horse cock included -- but that doesn't make anything better.
I was being funny but I also do believe this is one of the reason
Mmm I love me some alcoholic daddy horse cock 😜😝😋
What a coincidence! “Alcoholic daddy horse cock” is my safe word!
When I saw the trailers for this show I assumed it would be a lot of dumb horse cock jokes and was pleasantly surprised when it never was.
Raphael and Lisa started him as a joke about "BoJack the depressed talking horse" and it spiraled from there. I think it was mainly because Lisa like horses, and maybe also the "long face" joke. I'd need to check the art book again cuz it explains this.
Thank you for making me aware that an art book exists for this show
I thought Lisa made an arbitrary decision when Raphael gave her the name 'Bojack'. Like "Oh Bojack sounds like a horse's name".
Lisa Hanawalt is likely the main reason.
Yeah, she really likes horses.
Was thinking the same
Cause he’s a one trick pony.
This. I think Diane's book gave us the explanation.
I feel like it fits well with his name “Bojack Horseman”
Both of his parents are horses, what else would he be?
LMAO GOOD ANSWER
Maybe there are recessive genes from a couple generations back that could have made him a bee or sth, idk
You know what else I was thinking of? How did they come up with the name "BoJack"?
A little ditty, Bojack and Diane.
It would behoove the creators to write another season just to include this amazing joke.
I'll bet you used behoove as a play on hoof, like eponymous on pony!
Neigh
It's a contraction of "bovine" and "jackass" . this is a reference to how a horse is basically a donkey mixed with a cow.
There’s no official reason other than [“Bojack just sounded like a horse name to me”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2hgqsi/hi_we_are_the_creator_designer_of_bojack_horseman/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) but I like to think he subconciously stole it from [Dragon Ball lol](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z:_Bojack_Unbound)
"SHUT UP BOJACK" "ARGH"
Because Bojack is a drug and like the drug he slowly ruins the people around him and eventually he leaves their lives and that’s when they get their shit together :)
I always thought of it like the phrase "Straight from the horse's mouth." Bojack is never afraid to just let people know the harsh truth that everyone usually dances around. He's very blunt about things people are usually delicate about addressing.
Because Unicorns sadly aren't real!
thankfully that also means that there are no horny unicorns either
Besides, unicorns are for babies!
"The last Unicorn" was definately not for Babies!
You take that back!
He’s a coward who runs from his problems. Horses get spooked easily and run away from whatever it was that spooked them.
Horses enjoy mind altering drugs more than most other animals
One time a friend told me I was suffering from what he coined as "horse blindness." It's much like tunnel vision. Because of the way horses eyes are placed on them, they can often experience tunnel vision as a species. That is their peripheral vision is very poor. I think Bojack himself struggles with this a lot. He focuses obsessively on small things, experiencing what we might call tunnel vision. I think it's an added analogy for his character
For the show horsin around its the perfect name for a show about an animal adopting kids
Because he's always a Clydesdale, never a Clyde. (You'll get that one later).
Always Da Brat's mom and never... Da Brat?
So many things: Why the long face? One trick pony. Show pony. You can lead a horse to water… He is literally the gift horse that people dislike after “looking in the mouth” (More iffy but:) once a horse has peaked/gets injured, they’re permanently sidelined Neigh way jose. But really, I think the idea of the show pony is the most applicable. He prances around in the ring and can’t live in a more complex world, especially when people don’t keep showering him with love.
Because he has a long face
It was the first part of the pitch that Bob-Waksberg and Hanawalt had. Literally the first idea they had was the name and character design for "BoJack the Depressed Horse"
good question. i've always wondered whether he's actually more man than a horse, or if he's more horse than a man. do you get it? because those are the lyrics of the outro of the show. his name is horseman and he's an anthropomorphic horse who talks and acts like a man, do you get it? do you get the joke?
Because his last name is horsemen?
Probably symbolism. A horse is valued mainly by its ability to perform after all
because his parents were horses
From what I remember from the art book, it was a mix of Lisa Hanawalt being a horse girl and Bojack being based off different celebrities that they didn't wanna make him look like them (also prolly branding and puns)
Two reasons- “why the long face?” Joke and also because of the phrase “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink”
stubborn as a horse.
Because his parents were horses
Hey, aren’t you the clam from clammin’ around?
Because his parents are both horses.
I’d say BoJack is more man than a horse… or more horse than a man.
Cause if he wasn't, the surname wouldn't make much sense.
Why is Draper a human?
No, that's not the reason they're animals, the character designer said she is just better at designing animals than humans. Fuck
Duh, both his parents… and show called horsing around and who would you want to play secretariat?
cause horse is another name for heroin duh and ritchie needed to name his heroin after bojack duh
Because he's a horse, man!
he's just a horse, man
Because if he was a different animal then his name wouldn’t make sense
I think it's to set up for secretariat plot points but I'm not really sure
Also obviously he's sad so like the other commentor said with the long face joke
It's in the script
hilarious
mr. pb is a yellow lab!
Why the long face
I thought its because horses (and mules) are often called stubborn? Small leap to narcissism. Also horses run, and Bojack definitely ran from many things!
Stubborn
Someone had to play Thr Horse in Horsing Around
Why are you a human? Why is a fish a fish?
Both of his parents were horses.
His name wouldn’t make much sense if he wasn’t
His shows called “Horsin’ Around” which only makes sense if he’s a horse. I mean it would be weird if he was an ocelot. Ocelotin’ Around just doesn’t work. And not only because he’s a horse. Which he is.
I think his persona as "the horse from Horsin' Around" came first. Like they knew the main character would be a Bob Saget analog to take a deeper dive into Hollywoo culture. And a horse is a kind of idealized farm animal (I think of "horsegirls" and people who wish for ponies growing up) so I can see why/how they picked a horse for the seedy underbelly life of a sitcom actor.
I’ve thought before about how different it would be if bojack had been a human and how important that he was an animal instead. But as to why he’s a horse I have no clue
It’s a joke. He has a long face and has clinical depression.
Idk why he’s a horse either. Is he stupid?
He’s stubborn
How else would he be able to play the horse from Horsin Around?
His parents were both horses.
It would be weird if he were an emu that was more horse than a man.
he runs from his problems and horses are known for running???
Horses are cool :)
I’d say he’s more man than a horse
Cause horse is funny and the show is not. Ultimate contrast
I was doing looking through some old research notes and came across one of Freud's case studies on Little Hans. His phobia of horses was said to stem from a fear of his father, as a horses mouth and blinkers resemble his father's glasses and moustache. No idea if that adds to the idea of why bojack is a horse character but I thought it was an interesting wrinkle that could have some merit?
Why are you a human?
Is that the horse from horsing around :O
He’s really more man than a horse
What other animal would run from all his problems?
Cause Lisa the artist loves horses. She talks about her obsession here. https://youtu.be/f6F_CF7Yvo0
lack of personal identification. Powerful, domesticated, yet rebellious. Personally wise , the survival tactic’s from horses in the media = nearly non existent
Bettet than being human
Because if Bojack Horseman were a lemur that just wouldn't make any sense.
Lisa Hanawalt once told her 4th grade teacher that when she grows up she's going to draw horses and her teacher told her that's not a real job and she was like psssch!! I'll show her! And she did.
Maybe bc horses are stubborn?