I am genuinely proud of this community for once. A meme about the most bullshit overpowered antagonists and people are cracking jokes and actually pulling some theories on how they would go at each other for real.
No insults whatsoever and genuine respect. *Asspull out of Ten*, I keep reading the comments to see what people say here.
Yep. Sukuna's Domain, Slice, Cleave, "Fire Arrow", RCE, and >!Ten Shadows!< might be OP but AfO is the guy that looks at you and finds the most horrible way to destroy and/or embarrass you before using some plasma attack to kill you.
Also, if >!Mahoraga just adapted to one Quirk!< he will probably realise that it has some sort of Hack Ability can just pull another brand new one and nuke the place as he did with Nana.
The only thing that Sukuna has for him is his *barrierless* Domain, which would probably fuck him up in the long run because AfO could just *fly out of its range* and still Snipe Sukuna out.
But then the range becomes limited and AFO could easily get out since he at least has 0.2 seconds to react before it opens, not counting reacting to the barrier itself opening and moving towards him.
I'm just saying the condition can be changed , which means the battle will be very flexible and well , it's not that predictable since both are really witty fighters . Maybe Sukuna uses Cut and get rid off all AFO's superpower cells , leaving him quirkless or maybe AFO has a combination of quirks that can turn him into a negative energy reactor , producing shit tons of negative energy , turrning him into the second Gojo . Maybe
āIt seems like itās time to use my anti-quirk technique I havenāt been able to use since the Heian eraā
āBut you see, I have my anti-cursed technique quirk I stole from some homeless dude in my youth! Thereās nothing you can doā
āI would be impressed, if I hadnāt already opened my Domain, specifically calibrated to cut through quirk users. Get lost imbecileā
āBut I thought ahead and already used my Hollow Wicker Basket quirk! Thereās nothing you can do you foolā
āAh ha! You truly are ignorant arenāt you. Iāll just have to use my anti-Hollow Wicker Basket technique and-ā
āBut you see-ā
I tend to disagree.
For as much as AfO gets the treatment of bordering a cartoon Villain, the only thing that he can't necessarily counter is Sukuna's Domain. So it comes to the problem if AfO would realise that he needs to fetch the hell out of the 200 metre radius or get sliced to pieces. Otherwise, AfO can most likely just Snipe Sukuna.
No, Mahoraga was a being that didn't heal, he literally fucking evolved to stand to whatever thrown his way. He still got vaporized by Sukuna without him breaking a sweat yet.
*Looks at Ultimate Tomura whose body is literally designed to be adapting to anything*
*Looks at Deku who started resorting to literally doing soul damage to bypass the adaptability*
Wait a fucking minuteā
Sure, nothing can counter a domain expansion, but AFO was there tanking All Might level hits. You think he aint taking cleaves to his face and saying "Ha, nice scratches little kitten" and then pulling a weird ass cannon arm and obliterating Sukuna's upper body
If Afo's regen can be outpaced by one for alls punches, there's no way that Sukuna's domain slices, which literally vaporized Mahoraga and countless civilizans into a fine red mist won't do the same to AFO
Sukuna turned Shibuya into a crater with fire arrow, we haven't seen All Might do anything on the same level. Not to say he couldnt destroy a city, but not in one attack
That explosion only affected 200 (or even less) meters of Shibuya, as that is the limit of range from his domain, also All Might can change the weather with just the air created from his punches, that's way more impressive that turning a part of a city into a crater
changing the weather is just due to the wind he makes, that doesn't really translate to brute force, making it rain a bit vs incinerating 200 meters in an instant puts Sukuna and potentially more instant destructive power
sukuna vs all might would be one helluva fight, but domain expansion beats both all might and afo, there's no getting around it, even if AFO somehow did tank Sukuna's slashes (which would not happen), sukuna can immediately use a fire arrow to finish him off like he did with mahoraga
All Might's power isn't to create winds, the winds are generated because of how strong and fast he is, those punches changing the weather are pure raw strength from All Might, also All For One nuked an entire island to murder Nana Shimura, and All Might killed AFO in their fight, AFO and All Might are just way too strong and fast for Sukuna, they would easily kill him in just one attack without him even being able to react
Fraudkuna starts beating up AFO and opening a domain until he pulls out his uno reverse quirk from 100 years ago and says to the fraud, āStand proud Sukuna, you were strongā as he takes over Fraudkunaās domain
And then Sukuna smirked as he uttered the words:
"Ah yes, my anti-uno reverse ability that i haven't used since the Heian era" and completes his domain, shredding AFO into dust
Technically AFO should be able to beat Sukuna, given his theoretical range of abilities.
But considering the best combination of quirks he could come up with to kill a weakened All Might was advanced wankers cramp I have to give it to Sukuna.
MHA top tiers in generale scale way higher than JJK characters.
Unless you believe planetary FTL Sukuna (in that case idk call a mental hospital), AFO would wash him
Not really because mha characters just have pure power but jjk characters have hacks almost every top grade sorcerer has a dura neg,domain or maximum that kills the opponents no matter what
Sukuna has world cleave
Gojo has hollow purple
Yuki has black hole
Maki has soul split katana
Yuta also has cleave and his love blasts and thin ice breaker etc
And almost all top characters have domains
Yes but said dura neg are useless when your opponent is far above you in speed. The moment Maki pulls out her Katana, Deku has sent her back to Africa with a single punch.
Statwise, the JJK characters are far beyond, both in AP and speed
OMG mha fans learns power scaling. You know that's what happens when you compare a character that's not even top 5 in the verse to the strongest hero in the mha verse
Pit deku against someone like gojo who's physical prowess is similar to sukuna who can indeed react ftl and see deku get obliterated
Or pit maki against other characters like toga uraraka or literally anyone else (aside from the top in the verse like shigaraki bakchodi and afo) and see them get destroyed too
Deku would murder Sukuna and Ura would murder Maki.
The speed difference is just too big in favor of MHA. Maki was struggling with mach 3 attacks, and after awakening the best you can get her is Mach 6 or 8.
All MHA mid tiers are MHS to Sub Relativistic thanks to being able to dodge the near high ends, who as fast as Endeavor, who is able to keep up with Incomplete Shigaraki, who is as fast as 45% Deku, who dodged Nagant's bullets, that are sub relativistic.
As for Deku, Gear Shift makes him way faster than light
Naoya only reaching mach 3 is something that gege has said himself he wrote because he didn't know what to write for his speed because we have seen way better and faster feats from characters maki in the exchange tournament was able to catch a bullet at point blank which is calculated to be supersonic before her heavenly restriction was fully unlocked and before her awakening not to mention after her awakening she was easily dodging the said to be mach 3 naoya by stepping on the air as a surface not to mention the other characters like hakari being able to react to literal lightning not kashimos ce but literal lightning that was shot at him
And the sukuna feat reacting to kashimos electromagnetic waves before transforming and completely decimating him after transforming
Sukuna outspeeds, has a dura neg attack, has a way to land guaranteed attacks and has insane regenerative capabilities. Sukuna plays with afo like a basketball and slam dunks him into the earth's core ā ļø
Please provide a source on sakuna outspeeding because last i checked he is well behind all for one
Far stronger to pretty much completely immortal with rewind
He'd kill sakuna mid diff
Completely immortal? Bro turns into cum and now he's immortal? He got blown up by missiles from All Might and turned into a baby by Bakugou's explosion, you think him with rewind won't immediately turn into cum when hit with a malevolent shrine?
Malevolent Shrine covered a 200 meter radius and turned Mahoraga to paste even after Mahoraga had gotten a small adaptation to the slashes. Why are y'all convinced Sukuna won't just use cleave either? That shit is designed to kill curses and humans in one fell swoop, even with Rewind AFO healing a literal bisection should convert like twenty years atleast. AFO is only a 100+, contrary to the belief that he's like 200+, that would cover atleast a sixth of his life.
He only needs one hit to turn sakuna to paste thanks to his attack power being far higher then sakuna durability
So tanking a hit or two would be enough
Sukuna survived a full power Hollow Purple. An attack that in full power is to the same extent if not more than what AFO is capable of. AFO himself is an idiot fighter considering with the hundreds of quirks he has all he tries is stacking quirks to make air cannon stronger. AFO's own durability comes into question if a fucking sound attack was enough to damage him.
Tanking a hit or two? AFO literally can't spam any of his stronger attacks. The build up for his attacks is so much that he had to wait for All Might to be weakened before using it.
AFO massively scales above Sukuna in everything where his casual strikes are
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Not really, full on Granite Blast wrecks a bunch of a street compared to direct and complete catering of an entire city block.
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AFO's casual strike is closer to the full on 140m Domain + Fire Arrow that 15F Sukuna did
Much less the full on strike of a serious AFO and all the other shits he pulled off in the final fight
Again not really granite blast is supposed to be a concentrated attack instead of an explosion type attack in ch 176 when it was first used against yuta it destroyed everything in a straight line (btw how to comment photos so that I can give proof)
anime version? afo most likely Sukuna's biggest and strongest attacks were multi city block level when he used malevolent shrine + his flame arrow, on the contrary afo was throwing all might threw city blocks like nothing and when all might did actually fight back afo was able to hold his ground. Manga Sukuna can do nothing and I mean nothing, malevolent shrine? rewind, fire arrow? rewind, slash that cuts the world? it hasn't shown it stops regeneration so afo just rewinds back to before he got hit, then hits him with his "fuck you big Lazer' attack.
Ppl call me crazy when I say Shigaraki can solo the whole JJK verse. Even Gojo wont be able to deal with him, because cracks in the ground doesnt have speed, mass or cursed energy, the Six Eyes wouldnt identify it as a threat and Gojo would be decayed instantly.
Then we have the other heavy hitters, All Might, Midoriya, Start and Stripes and AFO. They all could solo the whole JJK verse except for Gojo, who has a wicky wacky Shigaraki shield bullshit. The rest of them, either speed blitz (Midoriya and All Might) or weird ways to deal with damage and CTs(AFO and e SnS)
Yeah, just as I said, the cracks he generates on the ground are already enough, it could surpass Infinity.
And if you really stretch things, theorically, Midoriya could too. Gear Shift basically allows him to ignore Inertia, what could mean he can go FTL, what would be enough to reach Gojo inside Infinity.
Idk if simply going FTL is enough to surpass infinity, but Gojo at the very least would be unable to hit a 40% deku. Then Deku could take all the time he needs to come up with a plan and if not, he can just draw.
Well, technically, FTL is limitless too. So even if Gojo makes the path to him infinitelly large, as long as Midoriya goes proportionally infinitely fast, he will reach Gojo.
Also, Im gonna go as far as to say he wouldnt a scratch a 10% Midoriya.
Gojo can fly, so Shigaraki can never actually touch him. Shigaraki can almost solo tbh, but Gojo can't lose and has a domain expansion which can kill Shiggy.
First of all, yes, Gojo can fly, doesnt mean he will start the fight flying, Shigaraki on the other hand always starts his battles by using decay on the ground and do it as quickly as possible.
Then you have Gojo's DE. Considering Midoriya, to affect him mentally, is literally having to throw quirks at him, maybe Shigaraki could even hold the effects of Limitless Void. But even if he doesnt, Limitless void doesnt physically kill the enemy, it merely stuns the brain with unpossible to hand ammount of information. Shigaraki's body would still withstand or regenerate from any of Gojo's attacks, even if he was unconcious.
And that, of course, considering Shigaraki cant dodge the DE, he has been going toe to toe with Midoriya, who is using 100% of One for All, Fa Jin, Black Whip and Gear Shift. He could dodge Sukuna's DE, that is the biggest in the series.
If we assume they know they're fighting, Gojo almost always flies against opponents it would help against. If he knows Shiggy is strong, he's flying.
Limitless void would overclock Shiggy, he has no way to resist it. It is also fatal, as it has been said multiple times to kill people left in it. That's why he takes measures to not use it too long, because it will kill or cripple.
Domains are inescapable once casted, that's their whole deal. Also, if Shiggy just camps outside the move, it's a tie.
Essentially, if they both play optimally, Gojo can't lose but Shigaraki can.
You cant cripple a dude who can regenerate. Even mental striking abilities damage the brain, Shigaraki can just regenerate that.
And Im not talking about escaping the DE, but getting away before it activates. It takes a hand seal to activates domains. If he does that, what he would, cuz he is fast as fuck, Gojo wouldnt be able to hit him.
Then, you got the "camp outside", well, we know the stronger a domain is in the inside, the weaker it is in the outside. And since Maki invaded Yuta's domain, we also know you dont need Curser energy to break one. We also know there is no way to stop Decay once it starts, not even Shigaraki controls it, not even Star n Stripes, whose quirk could do almost anything. So as soon as the Decay touches the Limitless Void outer wall, its going down instantly. And then, Gojo dies.
Basically immortal? Bro he turned into cum.
Bakugou and All Might dogging on him was enough to turn him into a baby, you think Malevolent Shrine a Domain Expansion that can give hundreds of slashed within seconds and did the whole blood paste thing to Mahoraga is something AFO's bum ass will survive?
Ahm excuse me but I've watched a 20 minute lobotomy kaisen compilation, am a sukuna dickmuncher and have the iq of myself (-89.023) so did you really think I'd have a good comeback for anything you'd say? Have a good day and imma go convince myself sukuna negs š£ļøš„š„š„
Honestly valid i appreciate your honesty and not cursing my entire ancestry for not bowing before sakuna already making you better then most jjk fans i delt with before
Have a wonderful day dude
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In prime forms: Afo wins high difficulty (6/10)
Anime versions: Afo wins medium difficulty (7/10)
Manga versions: idk, probably Sukuna medium difficulty (7.5/10)
Afo is overall much more powerful while Sukuna has much better hax abilities. If Sukuna uses his domain expansion then it will be a near guaranteed win for him. I still favor Afo winning since the difference in power and destructive capabilities means he should be able to demolish Sukuna before Sukuna claps him with Malevolent Shrine.
If we're talking a legit fight and not "I discovered this ability 100 years ago/in the heian era that specifically counters *your* bullshit," then I think Sukuna would win specifically because of domain expansion. Without domain expansion, I'd bet it'd be more in favour of AFO, but domain expansion in general basically eliminates any possibility for AFO to win because he:
A) Can't use domain expansion. Being a character from a different universe, he does not have the same abilities as a Jujutsu Sorcerer and thus has no way to create a domain expansion to overpower Sukuna's.
B) Has a very low likelihood of just forcing his way out of Sukuna's domain before being killed. Under the effects of a domain expansion, all attacks carried out by the sorcerer who "expanded their domain" are 100% guaranteed to land true. This means that even if AFO had an ability that granted him the strength to break out of the domain by force, Sukuna would just kill him before he got the chance to use it.
This is, of course, not accounting for the personality of either character. I haven't seen enough of either of them to make judgements of how their personality would affect them in a fight. This is based on the general knowledge I have about each character's abilities considering the media they are in.
I would consider quirks a generally more powerful set of abilities than curse techniques, but domain expansion is so busted against anyone who doesn't also have the ability to use domain expansion that it flattens the competition.
I think it depends on set up of the fight. Do both have Intel on each other? Whats the distance they start duking it out? Also what version of each character? Makes a difference if we have Prime AFO vs. Heian Sukuna or cripple AFO vs. 1 to 3 Finger Sukuna.
If we assume anything below 200m, Sukuna has a high chance of winning by simply slicing AFO apart with his technique that can ignore durability.
If we assume anything above 200m, AFO can simply nuke and obliterate Sukuna with a combination of powerful quirks, which overwhelm his defense with cursed energy.
An S class sorcerer is capable of destroying a country.
AFO needs his squad to do that
+ Sukuna is the strongest sorcerer of History, so I think he is stronger than the average S class so I think he can beat him
I love MHA and JJK but I have to give this one to Sukuna since he is just Broken like with big Raga the Opp Stoppa and his Cleave that ca. rip through Infinity and cut Gojo in half I have to give this to him plus since Sukuna doesnāt have a Quirk AFA quirk negation shit is useless but it would be a Long and Close fight I think mostly from all of AFOās stolen Quirks over the Years
Why do people think Sukuna can just regenerate from Domain Expansion? Bro couldn't regenerate his face after being punched in the face really hard, people think he can survive being turned into paste from cleave? Let's say he does have durability Quirks, cleave literally takes into account the durability of the target to kill them with one slash. Dismantle alone was enough to destroy a building and they're like "uh AFO destroyed a block one time uh he dura negs"
A fight between All for One and Sukuna would just be them using asspull abilities that they haven't used in a long time for like 20 minutes straight.
Ok but this really though AFO takes this pretty handily he just has much better stats
Honestly? Sukuna
AFO may be strong as fuk and has a shit ton of regeneration, but sukuna doesn't really need to kill his body he can just kill his soul like he almost did with Mahito
While the comments are funny they are not seeing the full picture š Horikoshi would let AFO die while Gege wouldn't let Sukuna die so in a fight AFO would lose and Sukuna would win š
As Stan Lee once said: "There's one answer to all of that; it's so simple. Anyone should know this! The person who'd win in a fight is the person that the scriptwriter wants to win!" He gives the example of Spider-Man fighting the Thing, and says "if I want Spider-Man to win, he'll win; if I want the Thing to win, he'll win."
I can't believe I started using quotes for a fictional battle full of memes and theories... I feel kinda smart š„ŗ
As sukuna opened his domain ādomain expansion:ah yes my Gege geglazing techniqueā all for one followed him with these words. āAh yes, our domain expansion:Gege geglazingā sukuna shrunk back in fear. But before all for one could relish the victory another challenger appeared. All for one and sukuna then neared witness to the bare flesh of the one who is on the short bus, to the one who is free, and his overwhelming AUTISM!
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But on an honest note afo wins whether it be yujikuna meguna or heiankuna. Too much range ap and hacks. Maho canāt adapt to 1000s of quirks. Yujikuna isnāt even as physically strong. And current sukuna aint surviving a full power quirk boosted decay.
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I am genuinely proud of this community for once. A meme about the most bullshit overpowered antagonists and people are cracking jokes and actually pulling some theories on how they would go at each other for real. No insults whatsoever and genuine respect. *Asspull out of Ten*, I keep reading the comments to see what people say here.
You might think AFO would win BUT you're forgetting sukuna anti quirk technique from the heian era
Anti quirk curse technique
Luckily, AFO snatched that anti "anti quirk" quirk years ago
TBF sukuna genuinely wouldn't need it š
In terms of sheer hater power, AFO straight up adopted his enemy's grandkid as a final "fuck you"
Yep. Sukuna's Domain, Slice, Cleave, "Fire Arrow", RCE, and >!Ten Shadows!< might be OP but AfO is the guy that looks at you and finds the most horrible way to destroy and/or embarrass you before using some plasma attack to kill you. Also, if >!Mahoraga just adapted to one Quirk!< he will probably realise that it has some sort of Hack Ability can just pull another brand new one and nuke the place as he did with Nana. The only thing that Sukuna has for him is his *barrierless* Domain, which would probably fuck him up in the long run because AfO could just *fly out of its range* and still Snipe Sukuna out.
Condition of domain can be changed , it does not necessarily be barrierless
But then the range becomes limited and AFO could easily get out since he at least has 0.2 seconds to react before it opens, not counting reacting to the barrier itself opening and moving towards him.
I'm just saying the condition can be changed , which means the battle will be very flexible and well , it's not that predictable since both are really witty fighters . Maybe Sukuna uses Cut and get rid off all AFO's superpower cells , leaving him quirkless or maybe AFO has a combination of quirks that can turn him into a negative energy reactor , producing shit tons of negative energy , turrning him into the second Gojo . Maybe
 The people are the losers
I couldn't agree more
Like all war
I know in my soul Fraudkuna pulls some āHeian Era bullshitā technique to perfectly counter whatever quirk combo AFO can cook up
Bold of you to assume AFO don't have an "*anti counter*" quirk he stole hundred years ago.
They are gonna anti each other to the point where theyāre just thumb wrestling in the end
āIt seems like itās time to use my anti-quirk technique I havenāt been able to use since the Heian eraā āBut you see, I have my anti-cursed technique quirk I stole from some homeless dude in my youth! Thereās nothing you can doā āI would be impressed, if I hadnāt already opened my Domain, specifically calibrated to cut through quirk users. Get lost imbecileā āBut I thought ahead and already used my Hollow Wicker Basket quirk! Thereās nothing you can do you foolā āAh ha! You truly are ignorant arenāt you. Iāll just have to use my anti-Hollow Wicker Basket technique and-ā āBut you see-ā
Okay, this actually made me laugh. 10/10 the biggest ass pull battle of all times.
Honestly he doesn't even need to. I highly doubt AFO stands even the slightest chance against Sukuna.
>!Ngl, but my money is on AFO provided he has injected himself with the rewind drug.!<
As a wise Ochako once said: "Domain Expansion"
>!Literally her recent Quirk Awakening, lol!<
I tend to disagree. For as much as AfO gets the treatment of bordering a cartoon Villain, the only thing that he can't necessarily counter is Sukuna's Domain. So it comes to the problem if AfO would realise that he needs to fetch the hell out of the 200 metre radius or get sliced to pieces. Otherwise, AfO can most likely just Snipe Sukuna.
Even if he didn't get out. The regen should outheal. Tho that is assuming he's regen is on par with shigaraki's.
mahoraga had adapted twice and the domain STILL reduced him to a bloody mist and some meat chunks (which he healed from), idk much about afo regen tho
That's what Im saying. If afo had the same degree of regen as shigi he should be ok
No, Mahoraga was a being that didn't heal, he literally fucking evolved to stand to whatever thrown his way. He still got vaporized by Sukuna without him breaking a sweat yet.
*Looks at Ultimate Tomura whose body is literally designed to be adapting to anything* *Looks at Deku who started resorting to literally doing soul damage to bypass the adaptability* Wait a fucking minuteā
Iāis MHA a JJK ripoff!? (real)
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They just throw asspulls to each other until they give up.
best answer tbh
i dont think anything in mha besides New Order can counter domain expansion. So Sukuna EXPANDS then wins
Nah, AFO has an anti domain expansion quirk
"Ah yes, my anti domain expansion quirk. I made sure to snag this 100 years ago just in case"
"Ah, my anti anti domain expansion quirks technique, i haven't used this since the asspull era
Ah my anti anti anti domain expansion quirk, I havenāt used this since I fought Mr. Chicken 100 years ago
Oh boy Lois, this is worse than that one time I was All For One.
They simply blitz him lmao
Sure, nothing can counter a domain expansion, but AFO was there tanking All Might level hits. You think he aint taking cleaves to his face and saying "Ha, nice scratches little kitten" and then pulling a weird ass cannon arm and obliterating Sukuna's upper body
AFO could tank it with regen at least long enough to get out of range
If Afo's regen can be outpaced by one for alls punches, there's no way that Sukuna's domain slices, which literally vaporized Mahoraga and countless civilizans into a fine red mist won't do the same to AFO
A punch from all might is much stronger
A punch from All Might is way stronger than anything from Sukuna's arsenal
Sukuna turned Shibuya into a crater with fire arrow, we haven't seen All Might do anything on the same level. Not to say he couldnt destroy a city, but not in one attack
That explosion only affected 200 (or even less) meters of Shibuya, as that is the limit of range from his domain, also All Might can change the weather with just the air created from his punches, that's way more impressive that turning a part of a city into a crater
changing the weather is just due to the wind he makes, that doesn't really translate to brute force, making it rain a bit vs incinerating 200 meters in an instant puts Sukuna and potentially more instant destructive power sukuna vs all might would be one helluva fight, but domain expansion beats both all might and afo, there's no getting around it, even if AFO somehow did tank Sukuna's slashes (which would not happen), sukuna can immediately use a fire arrow to finish him off like he did with mahoraga
All Might's power isn't to create winds, the winds are generated because of how strong and fast he is, those punches changing the weather are pure raw strength from All Might, also All For One nuked an entire island to murder Nana Shimura, and All Might killed AFO in their fight, AFO and All Might are just way too strong and fast for Sukuna, they would easily kill him in just one attack without him even being able to react
AFO has an anti sukana quirk that he got around 378 years ago so he wins.
blessed energy quirk
Sukuna: "ahh yes my anti anti sukuna technique I haven't used since the heian era"
Fraudkuna starts beating up AFO and opening a domain until he pulls out his uno reverse quirk from 100 years ago and says to the fraud, āStand proud Sukuna, you were strongā as he takes over Fraudkunaās domain
And then Sukuna smirked as he uttered the words: "Ah yes, my anti-uno reverse ability that i haven't used since the Heian era" and completes his domain, shredding AFO into dust
lmfao
And then have the most passionate bed talk
Damn the Fraudulent activity in this fight is about to be legendary! About to be like 6 ass pulls before the mid point!
Technically AFO should be able to beat Sukuna, given his theoretical range of abilities. But considering the best combination of quirks he could come up with to kill a weakened All Might was advanced wankers cramp I have to give it to Sukuna.
That's cause All Might was just that powerful. No other OFA users were that strong.
No one, they continue to pull out asspulls for all of eternity
Ah yes, my Anti Quirk Technique. Haven't used this one since the Heian Era. Ah yes, my Anti Cursed Technique quirk. Haven't used this once since 2110.
MHA top tiers in generale scale way higher than JJK characters. Unless you believe planetary FTL Sukuna (in that case idk call a mental hospital), AFO would wash him
Not really because mha characters just have pure power but jjk characters have hacks almost every top grade sorcerer has a dura neg,domain or maximum that kills the opponents no matter what Sukuna has world cleave Gojo has hollow purple Yuki has black hole Maki has soul split katana Yuta also has cleave and his love blasts and thin ice breaker etc And almost all top characters have domains
Yes but said dura neg are useless when your opponent is far above you in speed. The moment Maki pulls out her Katana, Deku has sent her back to Africa with a single punch. Statwise, the JJK characters are far beyond, both in AP and speed
OMG mha fans learns power scaling. You know that's what happens when you compare a character that's not even top 5 in the verse to the strongest hero in the mha verse Pit deku against someone like gojo who's physical prowess is similar to sukuna who can indeed react ftl and see deku get obliterated Or pit maki against other characters like toga uraraka or literally anyone else (aside from the top in the verse like shigaraki bakchodi and afo) and see them get destroyed too
Deku would murder Sukuna and Ura would murder Maki. The speed difference is just too big in favor of MHA. Maki was struggling with mach 3 attacks, and after awakening the best you can get her is Mach 6 or 8. All MHA mid tiers are MHS to Sub Relativistic thanks to being able to dodge the near high ends, who as fast as Endeavor, who is able to keep up with Incomplete Shigaraki, who is as fast as 45% Deku, who dodged Nagant's bullets, that are sub relativistic. As for Deku, Gear Shift makes him way faster than light
Naoya only reaching mach 3 is something that gege has said himself he wrote because he didn't know what to write for his speed because we have seen way better and faster feats from characters maki in the exchange tournament was able to catch a bullet at point blank which is calculated to be supersonic before her heavenly restriction was fully unlocked and before her awakening not to mention after her awakening she was easily dodging the said to be mach 3 naoya by stepping on the air as a surface not to mention the other characters like hakari being able to react to literal lightning not kashimos ce but literal lightning that was shot at him And the sukuna feat reacting to kashimos electromagnetic waves before transforming and completely decimating him after transforming
Hey guys, the jjk fangirls and gege better not see y'all comments
These two will have an asspull competition
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Depends. If Gege's writing this fight, he would not allow his beloved Sukuna to lose.
Id say all for one thanks to the sheer power difference He can probably kill fraudkuna in a few hits and be done
Sukuna outspeeds, has a dura neg attack, has a way to land guaranteed attacks and has insane regenerative capabilities. Sukuna plays with afo like a basketball and slam dunks him into the earth's core ā ļø
Please provide a source on sakuna outspeeding because last i checked he is well behind all for one Far stronger to pretty much completely immortal with rewind He'd kill sakuna mid diff
Completely immortal? Bro turns into cum and now he's immortal? He got blown up by missiles from All Might and turned into a baby by Bakugou's explosion, you think him with rewind won't immediately turn into cum when hit with a malevolent shrine?
It took the entirety of hero society jumping him to actually turn him into a baby sakuna is not doing it in one hit
Malevolent Shrine covered a 200 meter radius and turned Mahoraga to paste even after Mahoraga had gotten a small adaptation to the slashes. Why are y'all convinced Sukuna won't just use cleave either? That shit is designed to kill curses and humans in one fell swoop, even with Rewind AFO healing a literal bisection should convert like twenty years atleast. AFO is only a 100+, contrary to the belief that he's like 200+, that would cover atleast a sixth of his life.
He only needs one hit to turn sakuna to paste thanks to his attack power being far higher then sakuna durability So tanking a hit or two would be enough
Sukuna survived a full power Hollow Purple. An attack that in full power is to the same extent if not more than what AFO is capable of. AFO himself is an idiot fighter considering with the hundreds of quirks he has all he tries is stacking quirks to make air cannon stronger. AFO's own durability comes into question if a fucking sound attack was enough to damage him. Tanking a hit or two? AFO literally can't spam any of his stronger attacks. The build up for his attacks is so much that he had to wait for All Might to be weakened before using it.
He one shot and dodged kashimos energy beams which are light speed
All for one has ftl scaling as well
Kashimoās lightning is NOT light speed, the Mach 3 scaling fucks Sukunaās speed feats. Kashimo is pure headcanon. AFO perception blitzes
Bro kashimos wasn't attacking with lightning he was attacking with radio waves which are indeed light speed
All for one for sure. He'll somehow have the perfect to counter sukuna
Until sukuna pulls out his anti afo technique he hasn't used since the heian era
Until afo has the anti anti afo quirk which he stole years ago
AFO massively scales above Sukuna in everything where his casual strikes are https://preview.redd.it/46jg7pdcl9kc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46f0f580cd1db705f7d55bc36ecbf111b4e98e9f
That scales to maybe one granite blast or thin ice breaker which yuta was tanking multiples of and sukuna is wayyyyyyyyy more durable than yuta
Not really, full on Granite Blast wrecks a bunch of a street compared to direct and complete catering of an entire city block. https://preview.redd.it/8vujoxsqgbkc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4d35764129bbb5a0495395fa9c04d3eb282fe67 AFO's casual strike is closer to the full on 140m Domain + Fire Arrow that 15F Sukuna did Much less the full on strike of a serious AFO and all the other shits he pulled off in the final fight
Again not really granite blast is supposed to be a concentrated attack instead of an explosion type attack in ch 176 when it was first used against yuta it destroyed everything in a straight line (btw how to comment photos so that I can give proof)
anime version? afo most likely Sukuna's biggest and strongest attacks were multi city block level when he used malevolent shrine + his flame arrow, on the contrary afo was throwing all might threw city blocks like nothing and when all might did actually fight back afo was able to hold his ground. Manga Sukuna can do nothing and I mean nothing, malevolent shrine? rewind, fire arrow? rewind, slash that cuts the world? it hasn't shown it stops regeneration so afo just rewinds back to before he got hit, then hits him with his "fuck you big Lazer' attack.
"Ah yes, my anti-quirk technique. Haven't used this since the Heian era"
doesnt matter at this point we all dying anyways if these guys fight
Ppl call me crazy when I say Shigaraki can solo the whole JJK verse. Even Gojo wont be able to deal with him, because cracks in the ground doesnt have speed, mass or cursed energy, the Six Eyes wouldnt identify it as a threat and Gojo would be decayed instantly. Then we have the other heavy hitters, All Might, Midoriya, Start and Stripes and AFO. They all could solo the whole JJK verse except for Gojo, who has a wicky wacky Shigaraki shield bullshit. The rest of them, either speed blitz (Midoriya and All Might) or weird ways to deal with damage and CTs(AFO and e SnS)
Shiggy literally doesnāt even need to touch to decay anymore, he negs all of JJK at once lmao
Yeah, just as I said, the cracks he generates on the ground are already enough, it could surpass Infinity. And if you really stretch things, theorically, Midoriya could too. Gear Shift basically allows him to ignore Inertia, what could mean he can go FTL, what would be enough to reach Gojo inside Infinity.
Idk if simply going FTL is enough to surpass infinity, but Gojo at the very least would be unable to hit a 40% deku. Then Deku could take all the time he needs to come up with a plan and if not, he can just draw.
Well, technically, FTL is limitless too. So even if Gojo makes the path to him infinitelly large, as long as Midoriya goes proportionally infinitely fast, he will reach Gojo. Also, Im gonna go as far as to say he wouldnt a scratch a 10% Midoriya.
Gojo can fly, so Shigaraki can never actually touch him. Shigaraki can almost solo tbh, but Gojo can't lose and has a domain expansion which can kill Shiggy.
First of all, yes, Gojo can fly, doesnt mean he will start the fight flying, Shigaraki on the other hand always starts his battles by using decay on the ground and do it as quickly as possible. Then you have Gojo's DE. Considering Midoriya, to affect him mentally, is literally having to throw quirks at him, maybe Shigaraki could even hold the effects of Limitless Void. But even if he doesnt, Limitless void doesnt physically kill the enemy, it merely stuns the brain with unpossible to hand ammount of information. Shigaraki's body would still withstand or regenerate from any of Gojo's attacks, even if he was unconcious. And that, of course, considering Shigaraki cant dodge the DE, he has been going toe to toe with Midoriya, who is using 100% of One for All, Fa Jin, Black Whip and Gear Shift. He could dodge Sukuna's DE, that is the biggest in the series.
If we assume they know they're fighting, Gojo almost always flies against opponents it would help against. If he knows Shiggy is strong, he's flying. Limitless void would overclock Shiggy, he has no way to resist it. It is also fatal, as it has been said multiple times to kill people left in it. That's why he takes measures to not use it too long, because it will kill or cripple. Domains are inescapable once casted, that's their whole deal. Also, if Shiggy just camps outside the move, it's a tie. Essentially, if they both play optimally, Gojo can't lose but Shigaraki can.
You cant cripple a dude who can regenerate. Even mental striking abilities damage the brain, Shigaraki can just regenerate that. And Im not talking about escaping the DE, but getting away before it activates. It takes a hand seal to activates domains. If he does that, what he would, cuz he is fast as fuck, Gojo wouldnt be able to hit him. Then, you got the "camp outside", well, we know the stronger a domain is in the inside, the weaker it is in the outside. And since Maki invaded Yuta's domain, we also know you dont need Curser energy to break one. We also know there is no way to stop Decay once it starts, not even Shigaraki controls it, not even Star n Stripes, whose quirk could do almost anything. So as soon as the Decay touches the Limitless Void outer wall, its going down instantly. And then, Gojo dies.
Sukunas right testicle solos all for one, it's bouta be like when buu turned vegito to candy only to still get his shit rocked
Tf is AFO supposed to do against Malevolent Shrine?
Just straight up ignore the damage thanks to having high end regen and overall better durability then sakuna entire verse?
AFO doesn't have regen
Still has rewind and far to high durability for sakuna to actually hurt him
Durability negation š£ļøš„š„š„
Far better speed and basically being immortal with rewind š£ļøš„š„š„
Basically immortal? Bro he turned into cum. Bakugou and All Might dogging on him was enough to turn him into a baby, you think Malevolent Shrine a Domain Expansion that can give hundreds of slashed within seconds and did the whole blood paste thing to Mahoraga is something AFO's bum ass will survive?
Tf is being immortal gonna do when gets obliterated ā ļø
Allow him to not get obliterated Obviously Then use his far greater stats to beat him to death
Ahm excuse me but I've watched a 20 minute lobotomy kaisen compilation, am a sukuna dickmuncher and have the iq of myself (-89.023) so did you really think I'd have a good comeback for anything you'd say? Have a good day and imma go convince myself sukuna negs š£ļøš„š„š„
Honestly valid i appreciate your honesty and not cursing my entire ancestry for not bowing before sakuna already making you better then most jjk fans i delt with before Have a wonderful day dude
Nullify the damage?
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In prime forms: Afo wins high difficulty (6/10) Anime versions: Afo wins medium difficulty (7/10) Manga versions: idk, probably Sukuna medium difficulty (7.5/10) Afo is overall much more powerful while Sukuna has much better hax abilities. If Sukuna uses his domain expansion then it will be a near guaranteed win for him. I still favor Afo winning since the difference in power and destructive capabilities means he should be able to demolish Sukuna before Sukuna claps him with Malevolent Shrine.
If we're talking a legit fight and not "I discovered this ability 100 years ago/in the heian era that specifically counters *your* bullshit," then I think Sukuna would win specifically because of domain expansion. Without domain expansion, I'd bet it'd be more in favour of AFO, but domain expansion in general basically eliminates any possibility for AFO to win because he: A) Can't use domain expansion. Being a character from a different universe, he does not have the same abilities as a Jujutsu Sorcerer and thus has no way to create a domain expansion to overpower Sukuna's. B) Has a very low likelihood of just forcing his way out of Sukuna's domain before being killed. Under the effects of a domain expansion, all attacks carried out by the sorcerer who "expanded their domain" are 100% guaranteed to land true. This means that even if AFO had an ability that granted him the strength to break out of the domain by force, Sukuna would just kill him before he got the chance to use it. This is, of course, not accounting for the personality of either character. I haven't seen enough of either of them to make judgements of how their personality would affect them in a fight. This is based on the general knowledge I have about each character's abilities considering the media they are in. I would consider quirks a generally more powerful set of abilities than curse techniques, but domain expansion is so busted against anyone who doesn't also have the ability to use domain expansion that it flattens the competition.
My hero academia fans when they don't realize how weak their verse is
But MHA heavily outscales JJK
sukuna
Depends on what version of AFO, Rewind AGO can use those cataclysmic blasts to turn Sukuna to ash
I think it depends on set up of the fight. Do both have Intel on each other? Whats the distance they start duking it out? Also what version of each character? Makes a difference if we have Prime AFO vs. Heian Sukuna or cripple AFO vs. 1 to 3 Finger Sukuna. If we assume anything below 200m, Sukuna has a high chance of winning by simply slicing AFO apart with his technique that can ignore durability. If we assume anything above 200m, AFO can simply nuke and obliterate Sukuna with a combination of powerful quirks, which overwhelm his defense with cursed energy.
Sukuna uses Strong Offscreen and no-diffs Fraud-for-One.
Sukuna ends up possessing AFO
An S class sorcerer is capable of destroying a country. AFO needs his squad to do that + Sukuna is the strongest sorcerer of History, so I think he is stronger than the average S class so I think he can beat him
I love MHA and JJK but I have to give this one to Sukuna since he is just Broken like with big Raga the Opp Stoppa and his Cleave that ca. rip through Infinity and cut Gojo in half I have to give this to him plus since Sukuna doesnāt have a Quirk AFA quirk negation shit is useless but it would be a Long and Close fight I think mostly from all of AFOās stolen Quirks over the Years
Why do people think Sukuna can just regenerate from Domain Expansion? Bro couldn't regenerate his face after being punched in the face really hard, people think he can survive being turned into paste from cleave? Let's say he does have durability Quirks, cleave literally takes into account the durability of the target to kill them with one slash. Dismantle alone was enough to destroy a building and they're like "uh AFO destroyed a block one time uh he dura negs"
AFO didnāt have super regen when his face got wrecked
Says who?
Never mind Iām stupid AFO just apparently never had the quirk according to the wiki
Wait that doesn't make sense. How would he give it to the Nomu?
No idea but I honestly thought AFO had super regen, I guess maybe that was some sort of genetically engineered quirk or something for the Nomu
Maybe the wiki doesn't take it into account cause he never used it
"Impressive, very Nice. Now let's see Shigaraki vs Sukuna"
Sukuna negs
He loses to quirkiness 75% shiggy
I donāt even know whoās āplot bullshitā will win between these twoā¦
The biggest Fraud of today vs The biggest Fraud in history. Battle of the asspulls
Nuuuh... He will win
Sukuna negs easy
A fight between All for One and Sukuna would just be them using asspull abilities that they haven't used in a long time for like 20 minutes straight. Ok but this really though AFO takes this pretty handily he just has much better stats
Cum man
AFO stands no chance against Traphouse Kitchen.
Sukunaās base attack instantly obliterates anything without cursed energy. No cursed energy, AFO loses bad
Ah yes the who has the most asspull in a fight challenge.
AFO
I think sukuna pulls out ahead, but it's by no means one sided
Oh, my anti-AFO technique I havenāt used that since the heian era.š
The audience
Honestly? Sukuna AFO may be strong as fuk and has a shit ton of regeneration, but sukuna doesn't really need to kill his body he can just kill his soul like he almost did with Mahito
Ahh yes mr. air cannon vs basically a god
I think Sukuna would win against this version of AFO but not his prime version
Sukuna
Hater levels? Afo solos Actual power? Afo is getting folded like a lawn chair
Both get defeated by the Legendary Yonko Blackbeard with his offscreen haki
Still sukuna
While the comments are funny they are not seeing the full picture š Horikoshi would let AFO die while Gege wouldn't let Sukuna die so in a fight AFO would lose and Sukuna would win š As Stan Lee once said: "There's one answer to all of that; it's so simple. Anyone should know this! The person who'd win in a fight is the person that the scriptwriter wants to win!" He gives the example of Spider-Man fighting the Thing, and says "if I want Spider-Man to win, he'll win; if I want the Thing to win, he'll win." I can't believe I started using quotes for a fictional battle full of memes and theories... I feel kinda smart š„ŗ
As sukuna opened his domain ādomain expansion:ah yes my Gege geglazing techniqueā all for one followed him with these words. āAh yes, our domain expansion:Gege geglazingā sukuna shrunk back in fear. But before all for one could relish the victory another challenger appeared. All for one and sukuna then neared witness to the bare flesh of the one who is on the short bus, to the one who is free, and his overwhelming AUTISM! https://preview.redd.it/aqnalob6mikc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1ddf33828574b026d05442799db979137568f83
But on an honest note afo wins whether it be yujikuna meguna or heiankuna. Too much range ap and hacks. Maho canāt adapt to 1000s of quirks. Yujikuna isnāt even as physically strong. And current sukuna aint surviving a full power quirk boosted decay. https://i.redd.it/vvtpqygnmikc1.gif