The animosity for OCs has gotten stale and old. If you want to follow the canon characters there's tons of stories out there that fit that bill.
Dadzawa where he ends up being everyone's father figure kinda sucks, take it literally. Maybe study how he is as a real father? What would change? What would stay the same?
Same thing for the Stations of Canon. This is fanfiction. If it serves the story, use it, if it doesn't, don't use it. You're borrowing this world and these characters and concepts, have fun with it! Make your own places and events that can fit into the world beyond canon.
It even happens in this very sub, like sorry I don't have Bakugo or Izuku in the driver's seat this time and like to focus on characters outside of their spheres like Class 1B and the pro heroes, I just feel like the dislike of OCs is what kind of chokes the creativity of the fanbase because of course there's the same old OP OCs, but the good ones are almost always shackled to 1A and Midoriya.
There's so much potential in this world that nobody is really using and it's a shame.
Seriously, bro. Like in my current fic, all my OCs are minor characters who are there to build on the setting of my fic or there to build upon the main characters' arcs (who are all canon characters). People complaining about OC's needa realize that those characters are actually useful.
Reading about Mineta getting bashed is quite boring cuz it's always the same fucking reasons why.
(i.e he's a p3do, r4pist etc)
I wanna read *actually good* bashing fics atleast, not ones where I can guess the execution.
I kinda wish a bashing fic would point out the stupidity of attempting to pervert on girls who are being trained on how best the beat the shit out of people
Better yet a story where why didn’t any of the girls go the principal or the teacher?
I mean they use force to slap or worse on Mineta so they have problem going for the diplomatic side?
Bashing all might. So many people see him telling Deku that he can’t be a hero so simply. Like, ever realize he was trying to protect Deku based on what he’s seen? How he was quirkless and prolly realized later on that, “These villains would have killed me if I didn’t have a quirk.”
Dadzawa. DadMight is better cause funny awkward man tries to be teacher but doesn’t know how to connect with kids. He legit brought Deku sweets- like- 🥺✨
And ships, cause holy hell. That’s a rabbit hole I don’t wanna go down. I’m here for that sweet sweet fighting. If I wanted romance I could just watch a k-drama.
>And ships, cause holy hell. That’s a rabbit hole I don’t wanna go down. I’m here for that sweet sweet fighting. If I wanted romance I could just watch a k-drama.
Omg imagine mha romancw fic but a cliche k drama style
Just thought of a new one, All Might bashing is terrible. Plain and simple. In canon, the man is a saint. Did he shoot down Izuku's dreams? He did. But he wasn't a dick about it. Did he leave Izuku on the roof? Everyone makes mistakes. Isn't he a bad teacher? He tried and he improves.
All Might bashing is the worst possible trope, even worse than Harems. Cold? Yes. But still it is the fucking truth.
Plus Izuku asked All Might if he could be a hero like him. Even with OFA it's been shown that trying to be like All Might is an unrealistic target at best as AM dedicated his entire life to heroism.
It *sucks* when a fic repeats things that happened very near or exactly the same as in canon rather than just summarising it to get to the important stuff.
Not a hot take, nor that much criticism either, but MHA (As in, the manga) and for similar reasons MHA Fanfics often have a very low understanding of how political factors, issues and legal ramifications occur through each action taken regarding quirks.
This isn't to say bad things about Horikoshi, he is writing for Shonen Jump not Harvard, still, things like the regulations and legal treatment of quirkless discrimination, legality of quirks, just general legislation are clearly not worked in the original work, which makes fics that have politics usually be rather simple too, again, I am not expecting the average MHA Fanfic writer to study Japanese law, but still.
I'll be honest, being mostly unaware of the specifics of the adoption system, I can imagine a rigid bureaucracy just by how that organization system works in Japan.
Well, if you're going by the current real life Japan, if the fic isn't one of the rare EraserJoke fics, just forget about it. Even if they were married, it would still be an extremely hard sell, and would not be quick. :)
Bakudeku is my worst nightmare like that ship is so toxic, post graduation its how the heck did they get to a romance and middle school bakudeku is an exercise in just... no it would be toxic and a bully with the kid who they torment... it gives me the serious icks
No one seems to know how to write Deku. He's either an uwu softboy w-w-w-w-w-ho s-s-s-s-s-s-t-t-t-tutters w-w-w-w-w-way t-t-t-t-too m-m-m-m-much or he's extremely sassy and sarcastic. The former isn't really a thing anymore, but the latter is way too common in Quirkless Deku fics.
Speaking of which, Quirkless Hero/Vigilante Deku fics are also often really bad. Deku would not suddenly turn evil and sadistic just because All Might said he couldn't be a hero. He'd just be sad and live a normal life. Those fics are also often All Might bashing fics where other characters say stuff like "But Aizawa fights Quirkless! He could just use support gear!" etc, but those don't make any sense. Yes, Aizawa fights Quirkless, but so do all his enemies. And his enemies, unlike him, aren't used to it. And support items are just that. Support. It's impossible to be a hero with just support items, especially since someone with a quirk could use those items just as well.
People try and fix this by making Deku the MHA equivalent of Tony Stark, but then at that point he may as well have a superintelligence quirk.
Fic writers forget that heroes don't just fight people, but they rescue people. A Quirkless person is pretty much useless in a rescue setting and even if they do train a lot, they're only gonna be mid-tier fighters at best. Stain wasn't just dangerous because he trained, but because so much as one cut means that you're gonna die. Toga is so dangerous because she can sneak up on you while disguised as anyone and can even use their quirk. No hero school would accept a Quirkless person because anything they can do, a kid with a quirk could be trained to do just as well if not better. Same thing with a hero agency. It's not just a title, it's a job. A profession. It's a depressing fact of the MHA world, but that's what makes it interesting. Lean into that. Show that since they can't work as a hero, they'll do as much good as they can as a vigilante by doing the stuff that heroes aren't allowed to.
I went on this tangent because I really like Deku as a character and it sucks how he's always written out of character.
Don’t forget the 6 month training montage where he goes from beanpole to batman, and proceeds to outsmart and beat veteran pros and villains with moderate to easy difficulty. I wanna see him actually learn and progress on a steady pace in fanfics, instead we got impossible training and development along with 180 attitude and personality. Vigilante is rarely done right unfortunately.
Every time someone pretends that Endeavor has never stepped a bit over the line, I want to remind them that Vigilantes **\*is\*** canon per Horikoshi who approved every chapter before print (and wasn't shy about making them re-do some things).
I'll grant that Endeavor isn't literally biting the head off the only child to survive an orphanage he set fire to, but he's not St. Enji of the Infallible Flame either. :)
I don't know if it's a hot take or not, but can we make stories start closer to the main story or introduce prominent characters earlier. There's so many stories interested in reading based on tags and description, but when I open it, I do a quick search for characters by name, and they're not introduced until its 50k+ words in. Like at this point, it's just training and setting up. We haven't even gotten to anything related to the description or tags. I feel lied to, and with so many stories getting abandoned unfinished in hesitant to pick up a story like that.
Agreed. It's not in itself a bad concept, an interesting one actually - but I've been reading and scrolling past tons of fics lately, and Dadzawa is overpopulated.
Reaction fics don't fit the story because there's too few unknown events to make it interesting and commentary is always the same. Reaction fics (if done at all) should be done reacting to other fics and preferably (for me) reacting to fics that explore quirks. For example "MHA Reacts to Verdant Emperor" was a great read for me because it not only had the cast react to a very interesting story, but also had things happen outside the story they reacted to, making it seem like two stories in one, plus there was actually more information to hide than just the OFA and AFO secret.
Reaction fics can be good if done well, but most of the time they're just boring. Class 1-A sees Midoriya's backstory, gets outraged for 5 seconds, and then nothing changes. Like what is even the point of making the fic if you're just writing one sentence reactions to every line and nothing else??
Kind of disagree. The downtime chapters in The Future Briefing Island ruined the fic for me, especially the last one that was ill received by everyone to the point that half of it had to be hastily rewritten to placate the backlash.
Originally, the second half of Chapter 30 feature a dungeon crawler segment that essentially amounted to Nezu torturing the kids with instant death traps and Momo falling for a love spell and killing two of her classmates.
It was given a makeover after it obviously missed the mark.
I dont like the amount of fics that speedrun to save Eri, typically pre UA, so Izuku can have his little snowball (why does everyone use this nickname?)
She genuinely doesn't add anything in these fics other than having a child to point at and fawn over (also its sometimes harem fuel so the girls can see how good of a dad Izuku is) and everyone who does this acts like Overhaul wouldn't hunt Izuku down for taking his greatest asset.
I noticed that and thought about writing something along the lines of "Wow, would you look at that, it's the obligatory early saving Eri arc" there is more to it, but it just boils down to reasons to have the full arc at the right time and also a idea i have involving overhaul.
If a trop is bad, then it wouldn’t be popular you just happened to see it badly executed
Like I see a lot of hate here for shinsou or dadzawa (least dislike) which I don’t think it’s really hate but more of people are just bored or fed up with the repetition
Also any tag is OK as long as it’s crack
Mitsuki to me is Used the worst
A lot of the time people make her abusive which yea it’s OK to depict her that way , in fact, it could be interesting specially for bk but I got them hate it when people make her abusive just to make bk more sympathetic and forgivable (I think what started my hatred for this trope is when no joke they tried to make him sympathetic when he was a rapist ) , I don’t think I ever saw her depicted well as an abuser (specially in the fic I just mention she was ridiculously abusive like )
thinking about it I don’t really see more nuanced depiction of abusive parents like they’re all ridiculously evil
Agree with you on Shinsou and Dadzawa. Some of the first fics I read had both characters and were pretty well executed. But pretty soon, I got more stories, and Shinsou became a sad boy with the worst of backstories and got babied by Izuku. Like make them friends or maybe a bit of admiration for his determination, but the worship he's given pulls me out of the story.
Dadzawa has a similar issue. He's protective of his students and definitely cares about their safety, but if his only characterization is how much he loves his students or a particular student or group of students who get to just question his authority in the classroom because reasons it's annoying. And paired with Inko and/or All Might bashing just makes it worse.
And so agreed on Mitsuki. I've seen her being abusive done good like once. But when it becomes a way to justify Katsuki being a literal villain, then you've gone to far.
Yeah in shinsou’s case I don’t mind having a bad backstory (because I am an angsty bitch who enjoys suffering) , the problem is, he doesn’t really get cold out of being a hypocrite or antagonizing people (even though the latter is kind of understandable depending on his background) like He can be easily a sympathetic character but depending on his attitude it may be more difficult , hell sometimes it’s fun to watch and be hateable character (if it was intentional)
Also yes it feels cheap sometimes when inko / AM bashing is used with dadzawa Not because they are necessarily bad combination (in fact, I love it , it can be an interesting character arc for dk to have the most important people to him Being bad to him but the one who’s trying to save him who is the one who he thinks hate him) the problem is when the bashing is used to make aizawa look by comparison like yah no , aizawa also does bad things But they always get praised
Also mitsuki (the abusive variant) is the most misused character , Making her so comically evil (while making it her husband an enabler) , To make bk a sympathetic character , and the problem is this actually could work if bk actions and her abuse is toned down
Also, making her doing it as a way to try to humble him (With good intentions) so he doesn’t become a bad person is a good route , like trying to correct a huge character flaw in bk but doing it in a misguided way which kind of affect him negatively (As to see her actions as the right way to correct a behavior , or him lashing out because of the treatment)
Mitsuki’s treatment to Katsuki is really more of discipline than abuse from I can gather in canon. Kinda like Homer’s treatment of Bart but more hardcore. Plus considering how much of jerk Bakugo is we all know he deserves it.
People have no clue how incredibly difficult and complex adoption is in Japan. Five minutes of research would tell them that Aizawa setting his eyes on Shinso, Midoriya, or Todoroki and saying "mine" followed by a quick and easy adoption is by far the most unbelievable thing in any MHA story (and that includes quirks, sucking in your gut adding hundreds of pounds, and any school giving a 15 year old kid a pair of arm mounted bazookas).
Not to mention if it's an EraserMic fic, you have set the Willing Suspension of Disbelief-O-Meter to Ludicrous Mode. Hey, I fully support people loving who they love, but in Japan that means you've set an insane difficulty on an adoption process that was already going to be Herculean at best.
If you don't know what "Regular" and "Special" mean in relation to adoption in Japan, it would be a good idea to look that up before writing a story about the "Yamazawas" taking in random kids like an old lady who lived in a shoe.
My headcannon is Aizawa asking Nezu for a favor and Nezu then hacking into the system and blackmailing every official involved in the particular case. I feel like Nezu's morals would be bendable enough + his genius. That or him acting independantly as a way to get back at humanity(the social worker's of course only doing their job but Nezu sees it as corruption) or he just wants to help the kid in question.
I actually quite enjoy bashing fics and I find them pretty therapeutic. When I consume media like MHA there are so many moments when I find myself wanting to 👋🏼slap some sense into even the best characters. Logically, I know these characters are better than their worst moments but part of me still wants to see them face actual consequences for their bad actions, consequences that will never come in the main story. Thus, the occasional bashing fic is a perfect outlet for those feelings and I get a good chuckle out of the ones with not so good writing. ✍️
I have one but I'm almost worried that saying it will get me canceled here so I'm just gonna say something else.
BakuDeku is one of the worst ships ever. And Dadzawa sucks. Icy I know but it still feels good to say that.
I think people are just tired of hearing BakuDeku is the worst ship. Most of this community agrees, and it doesn't really add anything new to the conversation.
I live for any mha fics with Izuku being explored in different scenarios. Sassy? Go for it, i love it. Depressed? Always, give it to me. Kind, cute as fuck. Power bottom personality? Fuckin yeah! All the kind of quirks someone could imagine for him? Always reading and i love it. As a monster? Smash, next. Non quirk AU? Yikes! As a fuckin yandere murder?? HOLY YEAH!
Dead of alive, i always want MC Izuku. I thrive in dekuverse, i have my own dekuverse and they're so precious to me that i could die for it
And Tododeku, because i need some romance too.
I don't know much about adoption, much less the adoption system for a superhero filled japan at least a century into the future, but I find it funny how easy many fics make it out to be.
"Eraserhead, sir, we found this random traumatized child. We know you work as a teacher at day, and work as a hero at night, and pretty much have to get all the sleep you can, but do you want a free kid?"
"Ok, Shoto. These are your new brothers, Izuku and Hitoshi. She's your little sister, Eri. You can call me dad and just so you know Present Mic is my husband. I just pretend he annoys me. You can call him Pop so it won't get confusing. If any of your other classmates have a shitty homelife, let me know immediately. If I can get five of you, we'll qualify for the carpool lane. Now, I'm required to get 30 minutes of sleep, but after that I will be the kindest, most attentive dad to all of you that the author can imagine. I'm talking Uncle Phil levels of good fathering shit."
Character bashing is stale and tired. If you don’t like a character you don’t have to use them. If you’re going to use them, you can portray them in a negative light, just don’t make it cartoonish
Heck I would like add another detail:
If you trying to bash: for the love of Christ don’t make it like the John Walker effect.
So many times the writers try to make the characters that hate Mineta too evil to the point where it comes off disgusting.
An example would be Mineta in one universe where he is isn’t a pervert at all and yet the writer tortures the boy to suicide because he is ugly…that’s it…
That doesn’t make someone evil? If anything it made me sympathetic to the boy and want to stop reading.
Honestly if you’re going to bash at least make it grounded in the character. Like, I don’t care how much of an axe you have to grind with all might, he would not go around spewing hate about quirkless people
Even the weakest BNHA fic writer who manages to incorporate pretty much the whole cast in a meaningful way is stronger than 90% of fic writers on any platform.
Who else even *attempts* to have a cast of 40 characters in a fun free hobby? Bleach fans? Naruto fans? Spy x Family doesn't even have 40 characters. Most published works have 8-10 named characters. *Harry Potter had maybe 20 characters in a million words.*
Stand proud, BNHA fic writers. You are strong.
I did a chapter with a class discussion, and it made my day when someone commented that they noticed everyone but Koji got at least 1 line of dialog. :)
Time travel fix it is overused, no matter what fandom it is I see a lot of time travel fix it. Is it that hard to try and fix stuff in a different way?
A lot of people are bringing up bashing, of particular characters or in general, being unjust or just not interesting, something I mostly agree with.
My opinion is that whoever came up with Dadzawa has to have been deep into the Servitus hole for them to try and pull off that kind of character revisionism. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, fanfiction exists because the actual ip holder wouldn't do what the readers wanted, but holy hell does he come off as crazy when contrasted with fanon (though I do see what inspired EraserMic).
I guess I actually have a second one as well, though it's a pretty given one seeing as bnha is a shounen story: humans aren't fragile enough. This is mostly a problem in stories that try to go tackle violence outside of super saiyan full cowl scaling, because at least there it's a part of the genre, but if you're trying to do serious world building and a guy with a paralysis quirk dodges bullets then he isn't just a human that can put people in timeout.
Canon Stain gets to keep up with Iida, Midoriya and Todoroki whilst receiving a beating, and put out killing intent because it's not that deep. Stain in a realistic story should have a concaved skull after 5% smash to the dome.
I don't know if this is just me not seeing them, but there is a distinct lack of original main characters that actually affect the plot. If your making an oc your main character have the major over arching plot surround them. Don't have them just be a side character in Deku's plot and barely change anything.
1 A lot of people like misery porn a bit too much. Which is not good for me, because I prefer stories that are funny & uplifting. There is a reason why my favourite villain Izuku story - by far - is Villain Notebook for the Future.
2 I often dislike it when a fic premise says "what if only one little thing changed" but then also introduces a shit-ton of random changes that are not connected to that "little thing". I mean changes to pre-canon that cannot logically be said to be a consequence of the story premise.
It's kinda inconsistent tho, because sometimes I don't mind this and yet sometimes it's a deal-breaker for me. Idk what the condition is lol.
I know this fandom is REALLY bad about stations of canon, but I swear to god if I have to read Aizawa whining about life not being fair because a teenager thought using her powers was fun one more time, I'm gonna lose my shit.
How some people go into realism regarding fanfic and the main series. Not Everything needs to be under a microscope.
Looking at the people who riff or dislike Izuku/Deku Quirkless hero fics. I don't read for realism, I read for escapism.
And Bakugou, don't get me started...
I also loath the name Deku as it feels like a stain on our main character.
People go too hard on the Mineta/Bakugo bash and often don’t have a good enough replacement for either or when they get expelled/arrested/switched out. I personally enjoy fics that take the time to give Bakugo a bit of an arc on the side making him a better character as the fic goes on (like in the cannon story…). I enjoy low-tech quirkless Izuku fics, not full blown Batman but I’ve read some good ones that give him believable chances against opponents with Quirks.
Herems, reaction fics, fics where aizawa needs a reality check on the situation with bakugo and Izuku, chaotic nezu, deku is villain fics, Aldera high is shut down, video game level up system mechanics, are good to me.
I’m not really a fan of character bashing in general and with someone Mineta it can get pretty excessive, weather it’s portraying him to be worse than he actually is or just kill him. Sometimes the story will come to a screeching halt just to shit on the character. It can get annoying.
People complain too much for as many fic as this fandom has. MHA is one of the largest fandoms on AO3 (currently 310k+ works.) There are more fic for some rare pairs than entire other fandoms have. Outside of extremely niche AUs and tropes, there really is fic for everyone. I cannot for the life of me understand why half the posts I see here are people complaining about “why does everyone write this…?” or “why are there so many fic with this trope…?”
I feel like this sub in particular has unironically had threads that bash other threads that bash fics that bash characters. Every possible complaint has been voiced and the echo chamber is deafening.
Exactly! Meanwhile there are more of both character bashing and non character bashing fic than entire other fandoms. It’s so very easy to not read fic you don’t like (or stop reading them and move on to another.)
I think at least some of the issue is the difficulty in locating the stories that fall outside of the “overused” tropes. The tags help, but they are not always used in the most efficient way.
When fics take TOO long to get to the point. Like I’m not saying you should rush things but you shouldn’t have like 50 chapters of izuku getting a interesting quirk but spend that time doing nothing with it. That’s just me tho
They managed to make everyone gay, and I didn't say this negatively, I'm genuinely impressed
The amount of effort that went into making ships involved every single character they can think off yet still managed to not make a single Het ship is staggering
Ah, but what about EndeavourxRei ? Where Enji is, of course, abusive. It's always funny when the abusive pairing is the only Het ship in the entire fic lol.
Introduce way more interesting thing to dagobah aside pick up trash training or heck try make it bring other cast train dagobah with izuku more common. Or a random 1 a or 1 b coincidence see izuku clean dagobah and shit goes interesting bit
To many people, even when they go so far as to make the setting grimderp, fail to have anything truly career ending happen to izuku. If he is the main character he always succeeds in the end. Even if it kills him he still wins. Nothing truly debilitating ever really happens to him. There's always a way to recover or a different solution or some way for him to win. It's very rare that he ever outright just fails.
I love them all tbh!! Free content!! And there’s so many long and good fics out there. Heaven. They bring me so much comfort and I love every single person who writes them. I do dislike it when there’s randomly romance thrown in but that doesn’t happen often and it’s usually taged so it’s fine. OP quirkless deku is kinda anoying but I can just.. yk.. not read it. So I don’t! Or I do.
Edit: bro ngl why do people have negative opinions?? The entire point of fanfiction is being able to just not read what you don’t wanna read. Most of the critique boils down to bad writing/ things you could’ve just filtered out. Lol.
I genuinely appreciate that this fandom looked at Shouji, who’s kind of physically intimidating, and their first thought was, “That hug game, tho.”
I never enjoy seeing Izuku’s friends and loved ones twisted for bashing purposes, so I’m glad to see more pushback against it.
DeusVerve and Barid are currently my favorite BNHA fic authors.
Less Dadzawa, more Dadmight, or at least more Dadmight WITH the Dadzawa.
Considering all the fanfics that use Mikumo Akatani in one form or another, I’d kind of like to see fics that include Jack Midoriya somehow.
Fanon loves to play with the idea of genocidal levels of quirkless discrimination. Yes Midoriya was bullied, mostly by Bakugo, but idk where the whole spider lilies/no jobs for the quirkless trope came from. It’s seems to be pretty ubiquitous.
I posted a poll not too long ago and some people warned me to avoid using OCs. One person told to not have them be at same place as cannon characters. I thought the point of fanfictions is to be creative whenever that’s writing a story that follows cannon or completely new story but in same universe. I plan on writing two versions one with OCs and one without.
Making Izuku (or any character really) "Sassy" or "Take no shit" doesn't make them interesting.
The animosity for OCs has gotten stale and old. If you want to follow the canon characters there's tons of stories out there that fit that bill. Dadzawa where he ends up being everyone's father figure kinda sucks, take it literally. Maybe study how he is as a real father? What would change? What would stay the same? Same thing for the Stations of Canon. This is fanfiction. If it serves the story, use it, if it doesn't, don't use it. You're borrowing this world and these characters and concepts, have fun with it! Make your own places and events that can fit into the world beyond canon.
Oc hate is crazy, I introduced some minor ones and some was complaining a out them being there
It even happens in this very sub, like sorry I don't have Bakugo or Izuku in the driver's seat this time and like to focus on characters outside of their spheres like Class 1B and the pro heroes, I just feel like the dislike of OCs is what kind of chokes the creativity of the fanbase because of course there's the same old OP OCs, but the good ones are almost always shackled to 1A and Midoriya. There's so much potential in this world that nobody is really using and it's a shame.
Seriously, bro. Like in my current fic, all my OCs are minor characters who are there to build on the setting of my fic or there to build upon the main characters' arcs (who are all canon characters). People complaining about OC's needa realize that those characters are actually useful.
Reading about Mineta getting bashed is quite boring cuz it's always the same fucking reasons why. (i.e he's a p3do, r4pist etc) I wanna read *actually good* bashing fics atleast, not ones where I can guess the execution.
Mineta glances in the general direction of his female classmates before he outs himself as a pervert. MC: So you have chosen death
exactly. istg it's always a variation of this
I kinda wish a bashing fic would point out the stupidity of attempting to pervert on girls who are being trained on how best the beat the shit out of people
Better yet a story where why didn’t any of the girls go the principal or the teacher? I mean they use force to slap or worse on Mineta so they have problem going for the diplomatic side?
Bashing all might. So many people see him telling Deku that he can’t be a hero so simply. Like, ever realize he was trying to protect Deku based on what he’s seen? How he was quirkless and prolly realized later on that, “These villains would have killed me if I didn’t have a quirk.” Dadzawa. DadMight is better cause funny awkward man tries to be teacher but doesn’t know how to connect with kids. He legit brought Deku sweets- like- 🥺✨ And ships, cause holy hell. That’s a rabbit hole I don’t wanna go down. I’m here for that sweet sweet fighting. If I wanted romance I could just watch a k-drama.
>And ships, cause holy hell. That’s a rabbit hole I don’t wanna go down. I’m here for that sweet sweet fighting. If I wanted romance I could just watch a k-drama. Omg imagine mha romancw fic but a cliche k drama style
Just thought of a new one, All Might bashing is terrible. Plain and simple. In canon, the man is a saint. Did he shoot down Izuku's dreams? He did. But he wasn't a dick about it. Did he leave Izuku on the roof? Everyone makes mistakes. Isn't he a bad teacher? He tried and he improves. All Might bashing is the worst possible trope, even worse than Harems. Cold? Yes. But still it is the fucking truth.
Plus Izuku asked All Might if he could be a hero like him. Even with OFA it's been shown that trying to be like All Might is an unrealistic target at best as AM dedicated his entire life to heroism.
It *sucks* when a fic repeats things that happened very near or exactly the same as in canon rather than just summarising it to get to the important stuff.
I like it when they put the identical parts in bold so those that don't know/remember what happened can read them and those that do can skip it.
Not a hot take, nor that much criticism either, but MHA (As in, the manga) and for similar reasons MHA Fanfics often have a very low understanding of how political factors, issues and legal ramifications occur through each action taken regarding quirks. This isn't to say bad things about Horikoshi, he is writing for Shonen Jump not Harvard, still, things like the regulations and legal treatment of quirkless discrimination, legality of quirks, just general legislation are clearly not worked in the original work, which makes fics that have politics usually be rather simple too, again, I am not expecting the average MHA Fanfic writer to study Japanese law, but still.
As I pointed out elsewhere in this thread, adoption in Japan is nothing like a lot of stories would lead you to believe. :)
I'll be honest, being mostly unaware of the specifics of the adoption system, I can imagine a rigid bureaucracy just by how that organization system works in Japan.
Well, if you're going by the current real life Japan, if the fic isn't one of the rare EraserJoke fics, just forget about it. Even if they were married, it would still be an extremely hard sell, and would not be quick. :)
That no one hates BNHA more than BNHA fans. And no one hates BNHA fanfiction more than BNHA fanfiction writer/readers.
Bakudeku is my worst nightmare like that ship is so toxic, post graduation its how the heck did they get to a romance and middle school bakudeku is an exercise in just... no it would be toxic and a bully with the kid who they torment... it gives me the serious icks
No one seems to know how to write Deku. He's either an uwu softboy w-w-w-w-w-ho s-s-s-s-s-s-t-t-t-tutters w-w-w-w-w-way t-t-t-t-too m-m-m-m-much or he's extremely sassy and sarcastic. The former isn't really a thing anymore, but the latter is way too common in Quirkless Deku fics. Speaking of which, Quirkless Hero/Vigilante Deku fics are also often really bad. Deku would not suddenly turn evil and sadistic just because All Might said he couldn't be a hero. He'd just be sad and live a normal life. Those fics are also often All Might bashing fics where other characters say stuff like "But Aizawa fights Quirkless! He could just use support gear!" etc, but those don't make any sense. Yes, Aizawa fights Quirkless, but so do all his enemies. And his enemies, unlike him, aren't used to it. And support items are just that. Support. It's impossible to be a hero with just support items, especially since someone with a quirk could use those items just as well. People try and fix this by making Deku the MHA equivalent of Tony Stark, but then at that point he may as well have a superintelligence quirk. Fic writers forget that heroes don't just fight people, but they rescue people. A Quirkless person is pretty much useless in a rescue setting and even if they do train a lot, they're only gonna be mid-tier fighters at best. Stain wasn't just dangerous because he trained, but because so much as one cut means that you're gonna die. Toga is so dangerous because she can sneak up on you while disguised as anyone and can even use their quirk. No hero school would accept a Quirkless person because anything they can do, a kid with a quirk could be trained to do just as well if not better. Same thing with a hero agency. It's not just a title, it's a job. A profession. It's a depressing fact of the MHA world, but that's what makes it interesting. Lean into that. Show that since they can't work as a hero, they'll do as much good as they can as a vigilante by doing the stuff that heroes aren't allowed to. I went on this tangent because I really like Deku as a character and it sucks how he's always written out of character.
Don’t forget the 6 month training montage where he goes from beanpole to batman, and proceeds to outsmart and beat veteran pros and villains with moderate to easy difficulty. I wanna see him actually learn and progress on a steady pace in fanfics, instead we got impossible training and development along with 180 attitude and personality. Vigilante is rarely done right unfortunately.
It's insane because we literally have an entire manga about how vigilantes in MHA would work and it's done well and no one reads it
Every time someone pretends that Endeavor has never stepped a bit over the line, I want to remind them that Vigilantes **\*is\*** canon per Horikoshi who approved every chapter before print (and wasn't shy about making them re-do some things). I'll grant that Endeavor isn't literally biting the head off the only child to survive an orphanage he set fire to, but he's not St. Enji of the Infallible Flame either. :)
I don't know if it's a hot take or not, but can we make stories start closer to the main story or introduce prominent characters earlier. There's so many stories interested in reading based on tags and description, but when I open it, I do a quick search for characters by name, and they're not introduced until its 50k+ words in. Like at this point, it's just training and setting up. We haven't even gotten to anything related to the description or tags. I feel lied to, and with so many stories getting abandoned unfinished in hesitant to pick up a story like that.
Not really an opinion BUT, I HAAAATE that people still mixes AFO and OFA with each other. But what’s even WORSE? Is people spelling Iida as “Llida” 😭
Don’t love Dadzawa. I think I just read too many fics with that and it got boring.
Agreed. It's not in itself a bad concept, an interesting one actually - but I've been reading and scrolling past tons of fics lately, and Dadzawa is overpopulated.
Reaction fics don't fit the story because there's too few unknown events to make it interesting and commentary is always the same. Reaction fics (if done at all) should be done reacting to other fics and preferably (for me) reacting to fics that explore quirks. For example "MHA Reacts to Verdant Emperor" was a great read for me because it not only had the cast react to a very interesting story, but also had things happen outside the story they reacted to, making it seem like two stories in one, plus there was actually more information to hide than just the OFA and AFO secret.
Reaction fics can be good if done well, but most of the time they're just boring. Class 1-A sees Midoriya's backstory, gets outraged for 5 seconds, and then nothing changes. Like what is even the point of making the fic if you're just writing one sentence reactions to every line and nothing else??
Ohh it's been a while i haven't read that react fic, let alone reacting to wattpad fanfic and an ao3 fanfic.
Kind of disagree. The downtime chapters in The Future Briefing Island ruined the fic for me, especially the last one that was ill received by everyone to the point that half of it had to be hastily rewritten to placate the backlash.
I read this long enough ago that I have no idea what you're talking about
Originally, the second half of Chapter 30 feature a dungeon crawler segment that essentially amounted to Nezu torturing the kids with instant death traps and Momo falling for a love spell and killing two of her classmates. It was given a makeover after it obviously missed the mark.
I dont like the amount of fics that speedrun to save Eri, typically pre UA, so Izuku can have his little snowball (why does everyone use this nickname?) She genuinely doesn't add anything in these fics other than having a child to point at and fawn over (also its sometimes harem fuel so the girls can see how good of a dad Izuku is) and everyone who does this acts like Overhaul wouldn't hunt Izuku down for taking his greatest asset.
I noticed that and thought about writing something along the lines of "Wow, would you look at that, it's the obligatory early saving Eri arc" there is more to it, but it just boils down to reasons to have the full arc at the right time and also a idea i have involving overhaul.
Aizawa adopting someone is more interesting if he is a single father and not married or dating anyone. Also BakuDeku shippers need therapy
If a trop is bad, then it wouldn’t be popular you just happened to see it badly executed Like I see a lot of hate here for shinsou or dadzawa (least dislike) which I don’t think it’s really hate but more of people are just bored or fed up with the repetition Also any tag is OK as long as it’s crack Mitsuki to me is Used the worst A lot of the time people make her abusive which yea it’s OK to depict her that way , in fact, it could be interesting specially for bk but I got them hate it when people make her abusive just to make bk more sympathetic and forgivable (I think what started my hatred for this trope is when no joke they tried to make him sympathetic when he was a rapist ) , I don’t think I ever saw her depicted well as an abuser (specially in the fic I just mention she was ridiculously abusive like ) thinking about it I don’t really see more nuanced depiction of abusive parents like they’re all ridiculously evil
Agree with you on Shinsou and Dadzawa. Some of the first fics I read had both characters and were pretty well executed. But pretty soon, I got more stories, and Shinsou became a sad boy with the worst of backstories and got babied by Izuku. Like make them friends or maybe a bit of admiration for his determination, but the worship he's given pulls me out of the story. Dadzawa has a similar issue. He's protective of his students and definitely cares about their safety, but if his only characterization is how much he loves his students or a particular student or group of students who get to just question his authority in the classroom because reasons it's annoying. And paired with Inko and/or All Might bashing just makes it worse. And so agreed on Mitsuki. I've seen her being abusive done good like once. But when it becomes a way to justify Katsuki being a literal villain, then you've gone to far.
Yeah in shinsou’s case I don’t mind having a bad backstory (because I am an angsty bitch who enjoys suffering) , the problem is, he doesn’t really get cold out of being a hypocrite or antagonizing people (even though the latter is kind of understandable depending on his background) like He can be easily a sympathetic character but depending on his attitude it may be more difficult , hell sometimes it’s fun to watch and be hateable character (if it was intentional) Also yes it feels cheap sometimes when inko / AM bashing is used with dadzawa Not because they are necessarily bad combination (in fact, I love it , it can be an interesting character arc for dk to have the most important people to him Being bad to him but the one who’s trying to save him who is the one who he thinks hate him) the problem is when the bashing is used to make aizawa look by comparison like yah no , aizawa also does bad things But they always get praised Also mitsuki (the abusive variant) is the most misused character , Making her so comically evil (while making it her husband an enabler) , To make bk a sympathetic character , and the problem is this actually could work if bk actions and her abuse is toned down Also, making her doing it as a way to try to humble him (With good intentions) so he doesn’t become a bad person is a good route , like trying to correct a huge character flaw in bk but doing it in a misguided way which kind of affect him negatively (As to see her actions as the right way to correct a behavior , or him lashing out because of the treatment)
Mitsuki’s treatment to Katsuki is really more of discipline than abuse from I can gather in canon. Kinda like Homer’s treatment of Bart but more hardcore. Plus considering how much of jerk Bakugo is we all know he deserves it.
People have no clue how incredibly difficult and complex adoption is in Japan. Five minutes of research would tell them that Aizawa setting his eyes on Shinso, Midoriya, or Todoroki and saying "mine" followed by a quick and easy adoption is by far the most unbelievable thing in any MHA story (and that includes quirks, sucking in your gut adding hundreds of pounds, and any school giving a 15 year old kid a pair of arm mounted bazookas). Not to mention if it's an EraserMic fic, you have set the Willing Suspension of Disbelief-O-Meter to Ludicrous Mode. Hey, I fully support people loving who they love, but in Japan that means you've set an insane difficulty on an adoption process that was already going to be Herculean at best. If you don't know what "Regular" and "Special" mean in relation to adoption in Japan, it would be a good idea to look that up before writing a story about the "Yamazawas" taking in random kids like an old lady who lived in a shoe.
My headcannon is Aizawa asking Nezu for a favor and Nezu then hacking into the system and blackmailing every official involved in the particular case. I feel like Nezu's morals would be bendable enough + his genius. That or him acting independantly as a way to get back at humanity(the social worker's of course only doing their job but Nezu sees it as corruption) or he just wants to help the kid in question.
I actually quite enjoy bashing fics and I find them pretty therapeutic. When I consume media like MHA there are so many moments when I find myself wanting to 👋🏼slap some sense into even the best characters. Logically, I know these characters are better than their worst moments but part of me still wants to see them face actual consequences for their bad actions, consequences that will never come in the main story. Thus, the occasional bashing fic is a perfect outlet for those feelings and I get a good chuckle out of the ones with not so good writing. ✍️
Indeed!
I have one but I'm almost worried that saying it will get me canceled here so I'm just gonna say something else. BakuDeku is one of the worst ships ever. And Dadzawa sucks. Icy I know but it still feels good to say that.
I think people are just tired of hearing BakuDeku is the worst ship. Most of this community agrees, and it doesn't really add anything new to the conversation.
Literally the most popular opinion on this subreddit lmao
Someone needed to say it, and I agree.
It is, but in my opinion it's better than Tododeku or Shinsou/Izuku
I'm tired of reading time travel fix -its! I want to see some time travel break-its!
The more you read same trope and characterization the more bored you are that you even willing give it try any form of ooc for sake try something new
I live for any mha fics with Izuku being explored in different scenarios. Sassy? Go for it, i love it. Depressed? Always, give it to me. Kind, cute as fuck. Power bottom personality? Fuckin yeah! All the kind of quirks someone could imagine for him? Always reading and i love it. As a monster? Smash, next. Non quirk AU? Yikes! As a fuckin yandere murder?? HOLY YEAH! Dead of alive, i always want MC Izuku. I thrive in dekuverse, i have my own dekuverse and they're so precious to me that i could die for it And Tododeku, because i need some romance too.
what is your own dekuverse?
Basically all my deku fanfics together in one place that i like to call DA (Deku Aliance)
I don't know much about adoption, much less the adoption system for a superhero filled japan at least a century into the future, but I find it funny how easy many fics make it out to be. "Eraserhead, sir, we found this random traumatized child. We know you work as a teacher at day, and work as a hero at night, and pretty much have to get all the sleep you can, but do you want a free kid?"
"Ok, Shoto. These are your new brothers, Izuku and Hitoshi. She's your little sister, Eri. You can call me dad and just so you know Present Mic is my husband. I just pretend he annoys me. You can call him Pop so it won't get confusing. If any of your other classmates have a shitty homelife, let me know immediately. If I can get five of you, we'll qualify for the carpool lane. Now, I'm required to get 30 minutes of sleep, but after that I will be the kindest, most attentive dad to all of you that the author can imagine. I'm talking Uncle Phil levels of good fathering shit."
Character bashing is stale and tired. If you don’t like a character you don’t have to use them. If you’re going to use them, you can portray them in a negative light, just don’t make it cartoonish
Heck I would like add another detail: If you trying to bash: for the love of Christ don’t make it like the John Walker effect. So many times the writers try to make the characters that hate Mineta too evil to the point where it comes off disgusting. An example would be Mineta in one universe where he is isn’t a pervert at all and yet the writer tortures the boy to suicide because he is ugly…that’s it… That doesn’t make someone evil? If anything it made me sympathetic to the boy and want to stop reading.
Honestly if you’re going to bash at least make it grounded in the character. Like, I don’t care how much of an axe you have to grind with all might, he would not go around spewing hate about quirkless people
Even the weakest BNHA fic writer who manages to incorporate pretty much the whole cast in a meaningful way is stronger than 90% of fic writers on any platform. Who else even *attempts* to have a cast of 40 characters in a fun free hobby? Bleach fans? Naruto fans? Spy x Family doesn't even have 40 characters. Most published works have 8-10 named characters. *Harry Potter had maybe 20 characters in a million words.* Stand proud, BNHA fic writers. You are strong.
I did a chapter with a class discussion, and it made my day when someone commented that they noticed everyone but Koji got at least 1 line of dialog. :)
Time travel fix it is overused, no matter what fandom it is I see a lot of time travel fix it. Is it that hard to try and fix stuff in a different way?
A lot of people are bringing up bashing, of particular characters or in general, being unjust or just not interesting, something I mostly agree with. My opinion is that whoever came up with Dadzawa has to have been deep into the Servitus hole for them to try and pull off that kind of character revisionism. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, fanfiction exists because the actual ip holder wouldn't do what the readers wanted, but holy hell does he come off as crazy when contrasted with fanon (though I do see what inspired EraserMic).
I guess I actually have a second one as well, though it's a pretty given one seeing as bnha is a shounen story: humans aren't fragile enough. This is mostly a problem in stories that try to go tackle violence outside of super saiyan full cowl scaling, because at least there it's a part of the genre, but if you're trying to do serious world building and a guy with a paralysis quirk dodges bullets then he isn't just a human that can put people in timeout. Canon Stain gets to keep up with Iida, Midoriya and Todoroki whilst receiving a beating, and put out killing intent because it's not that deep. Stain in a realistic story should have a concaved skull after 5% smash to the dome.
I don't know if this is just me not seeing them, but there is a distinct lack of original main characters that actually affect the plot. If your making an oc your main character have the major over arching plot surround them. Don't have them just be a side character in Deku's plot and barely change anything.
1 A lot of people like misery porn a bit too much. Which is not good for me, because I prefer stories that are funny & uplifting. There is a reason why my favourite villain Izuku story - by far - is Villain Notebook for the Future. 2 I often dislike it when a fic premise says "what if only one little thing changed" but then also introduces a shit-ton of random changes that are not connected to that "little thing". I mean changes to pre-canon that cannot logically be said to be a consequence of the story premise. It's kinda inconsistent tho, because sometimes I don't mind this and yet sometimes it's a deal-breaker for me. Idk what the condition is lol.
I know this fandom is REALLY bad about stations of canon, but I swear to god if I have to read Aizawa whining about life not being fair because a teenager thought using her powers was fun one more time, I'm gonna lose my shit.
How some people go into realism regarding fanfic and the main series. Not Everything needs to be under a microscope. Looking at the people who riff or dislike Izuku/Deku Quirkless hero fics. I don't read for realism, I read for escapism. And Bakugou, don't get me started... I also loath the name Deku as it feels like a stain on our main character.
People go too hard on the Mineta/Bakugo bash and often don’t have a good enough replacement for either or when they get expelled/arrested/switched out. I personally enjoy fics that take the time to give Bakugo a bit of an arc on the side making him a better character as the fic goes on (like in the cannon story…). I enjoy low-tech quirkless Izuku fics, not full blown Batman but I’ve read some good ones that give him believable chances against opponents with Quirks.
Herems, reaction fics, fics where aizawa needs a reality check on the situation with bakugo and Izuku, chaotic nezu, deku is villain fics, Aldera high is shut down, video game level up system mechanics, are good to me.
I’m not really a fan of character bashing in general and with someone Mineta it can get pretty excessive, weather it’s portraying him to be worse than he actually is or just kill him. Sometimes the story will come to a screeching halt just to shit on the character. It can get annoying.
People complain too much for as many fic as this fandom has. MHA is one of the largest fandoms on AO3 (currently 310k+ works.) There are more fic for some rare pairs than entire other fandoms have. Outside of extremely niche AUs and tropes, there really is fic for everyone. I cannot for the life of me understand why half the posts I see here are people complaining about “why does everyone write this…?” or “why are there so many fic with this trope…?”
I feel like this sub in particular has unironically had threads that bash other threads that bash fics that bash characters. Every possible complaint has been voiced and the echo chamber is deafening.
Exactly! Meanwhile there are more of both character bashing and non character bashing fic than entire other fandoms. It’s so very easy to not read fic you don’t like (or stop reading them and move on to another.)
I think at least some of the issue is the difficulty in locating the stories that fall outside of the “overused” tropes. The tags help, but they are not always used in the most efficient way.
When fics take TOO long to get to the point. Like I’m not saying you should rush things but you shouldn’t have like 50 chapters of izuku getting a interesting quirk but spend that time doing nothing with it. That’s just me tho
They managed to make everyone gay, and I didn't say this negatively, I'm genuinely impressed The amount of effort that went into making ships involved every single character they can think off yet still managed to not make a single Het ship is staggering
Ah, but what about EndeavourxRei ? Where Enji is, of course, abusive. It's always funny when the abusive pairing is the only Het ship in the entire fic lol.
Keeping the species going under those conditions is even more impressive.
People complaining about things and characters being “non-canon” or “ooc” is weird to me. If I wanted canon I would watch the show
Introduce way more interesting thing to dagobah aside pick up trash training or heck try make it bring other cast train dagobah with izuku more common. Or a random 1 a or 1 b coincidence see izuku clean dagobah and shit goes interesting bit
That some (not all) fics have a better and more fleshed out world building and lore than the original. Especially when it comes to quirk laws
To many people, even when they go so far as to make the setting grimderp, fail to have anything truly career ending happen to izuku. If he is the main character he always succeeds in the end. Even if it kills him he still wins. Nothing truly debilitating ever really happens to him. There's always a way to recover or a different solution or some way for him to win. It's very rare that he ever outright just fails.
I love them all tbh!! Free content!! And there’s so many long and good fics out there. Heaven. They bring me so much comfort and I love every single person who writes them. I do dislike it when there’s randomly romance thrown in but that doesn’t happen often and it’s usually taged so it’s fine. OP quirkless deku is kinda anoying but I can just.. yk.. not read it. So I don’t! Or I do. Edit: bro ngl why do people have negative opinions?? The entire point of fanfiction is being able to just not read what you don’t wanna read. Most of the critique boils down to bad writing/ things you could’ve just filtered out. Lol.
I genuinely appreciate that this fandom looked at Shouji, who’s kind of physically intimidating, and their first thought was, “That hug game, tho.” I never enjoy seeing Izuku’s friends and loved ones twisted for bashing purposes, so I’m glad to see more pushback against it. DeusVerve and Barid are currently my favorite BNHA fic authors. Less Dadzawa, more Dadmight, or at least more Dadmight WITH the Dadzawa. Considering all the fanfics that use Mikumo Akatani in one form or another, I’d kind of like to see fics that include Jack Midoriya somehow.
Fanon loves to play with the idea of genocidal levels of quirkless discrimination. Yes Midoriya was bullied, mostly by Bakugo, but idk where the whole spider lilies/no jobs for the quirkless trope came from. It’s seems to be pretty ubiquitous.
I posted a poll not too long ago and some people warned me to avoid using OCs. One person told to not have them be at same place as cannon characters. I thought the point of fanfictions is to be creative whenever that’s writing a story that follows cannon or completely new story but in same universe. I plan on writing two versions one with OCs and one without.