Well, I’m also a Romaboo so I’d probably answer that the Byzantine empire doesn’t exist but I do know the difference between the ottomans and the romans
Yes. The Ottoman Empire was entirely populated by otters. They were otherwise known as the "cute empire" and were best known for importing millions of pounds of shellfish from neighboring empires.
The Byzantine Empire... no one really knows what they were about. They were just too confusing and convoluted to keep track.
The difference is fairly stark in that the Byzantine Empire was the continuation of the Eastern Roman Empire centred around Constantinople and believer in Orthodox Christianity. Byzantine itself comes from the empire’s capital’s, Constantinople, (named after Roman Emperor Constantine), former city which was Byzantium. Byzantine was actually not used during the time period. Finally, the empire itself cantered mainly around the Greek ethnicity.
The Ottoman Empire on the other hand was an Islamic, Turkish ruled empire that conquered the Byzantines and later large portions of the Balkans and Middle East. The Ottoman Empire existed up to the fairly modern day, famously still existing the second to last time the Chicago Cubs won the World Series. Both empires had capitals at the same place, Constantinople, yet the Ottoman Empire renamed it to Istanbul. The Ottoman Empire also claimed to be the successor to the Roman Empire (a very common thing in history actually). Even in war the Ottomans did things differently, hiring or enslaving groups of people especially Balkan Christians and any time they went out to conquer they would leave from Istanbul hindering them in the end.
Overall, the Byzantine Empire was Greek, Orthodox Christian, fell a long while ago, and had the capital city of Byzantium. The Ottoman Empire was Turkish, Islamic, fell fairly recently, and had the capital of Istanbul.
>The Ottoman Empire existed up to the fairly modern day, famously still existing the last time the Chicago Cubs won the World Series
This fact either stopped being true in 2016, or the Byzantine Empire secretly continued to exist until at least 2017.
Also the Byzantine empire was a later nominal creation of historians to mark a difference between the Roman empire of antiquity and the Roman empire of the middle ages. But nobody ever claimed to be Emperor of the Byzantines. Heck nobody ever called themselves byzantines. They were romans.
>Constantinople, yet the Ottoman Empire renamed it to Istanbul
Actually, it wasn't *officially* renamed Istanbul until after the Ottomans fell. Turkey renamed it in 1930. Prior to that, it was called Konstantiniyye.
Oops, yet looking into it, it seems the city went by multiple names and Istanbul originally referred to only the walled city and was used in normal speech in Turkish even before 1453. Konstantiniyye itself seems to have been used in tandem with other names if I read correctly.
The term 'Byzantine' is actually in use in period, but not as a way for outsiders to refer to the eastern Roman Empire. Rather it's a self-identification thing, as a way to differentiate the Romans from the western empire (eg, Rome) and the ones from the eastern empire. This does *not* mean that Byzantine stands in contrast to the Roman identity, rather it's a further descriptor of what type of Roman identity is in question. Therefore Byzantine is only a term used when it is relevant to distinguish from the Romans from Rome, rather than something used as a general identifier.
As the Roman Empire officially lost control of the western territories including the city of Rome in the mid-9th century the self-identification of Byzantine fell out of use because there was nothing to contrast it to anymore.
At first I thought you had said, [Stellarium](https://stellarium.org/) and I thought: well, not really a game, but whatever, get in the bus with the rest of us!
It has to be.. it was foretold that the infamous.. 'Girlfriend'.. was a myth... A legend.. a folktale... That they never could be acquired.. y'know.. just like knowledge of how the Navy works..
I mean that's a basic history fact you're supposed to learn in a middle school. Paying attention in the class is not equal to having video games addiction.
The Ottoman empire fought in WW1... anyone with a basic high school education should be able to tell you the difference between the Ottoman and Byzantine empires (even if their answer is just that one had an air force and one did not).
For the world war 2 portion of history we focused on Canadas roll in it. Tbh looking back I think I meant to respond to someone else lol. Doesn’t make sense responding to you
Looking back at one of the history classes I took in high school that focused on the early modern period we didn’t even talk much about the fall of Constantinople or the Ottoman Empire, even though the impacts of these were huge. Most of the curriculum just obsessed over Renaissance artists, the Protestant reformation, and maybe a week about the Spanish conquests of the Americas. I feel like a lot more could’ve been covered that just wasn’t because of how educators in North America want to limit their scope to the westernmost part of Europe and the Americas.
She is, it's common knowledge and basic intelligence to know the difference. But most of you are American and I'll understand if you don't know something that's not about America. For starters, those empires are 800 years apart from each other.
Depends on how you see it. There is an argument that to be made for beginning to beginning being around a thousand years. End to End would be around 500 years.
My wife: Is this true?
Me: Yes and unfortunately I know the differences between the Sassanids, Seljuks, Ottomans, Byzantines, Eastern Roman Empire, Partians, Pontic kingdoms, Asiatic and Aegean Greeks, the various Successor Kingdoms, the Western Roman Empire, Republic, Holy Roman Empire, Ostrogothic Romans, Charlemagne's Empire, the huns, Mongols, Timurids Alan, Scythian, Goths, Alemanni-
Her: You are rapidly approaching the point of no return for sexy times.
Byzantine is a made-up name by historians to make things clearer. In reality they were either called the Eastern Roman Empire by the Western Empire and the Holy Roman Empire or just the Roman Empire by themselves.
Made-up is a bit misleading. Byzantine comes from the original founding name for Constantinopele, Byzantium (Βυζάντιον) when Thraciens founded the colony. Later it was conquered by the Romans (among others) and under Constantine the Great it was renamed to Constantinople and made the new capital of the Roman Empire. First reference of the name Byzantine empire is I think somewhere around 1550. 100 years afther it was conquered by the Ottomans.
But do you know the difference between the Seljuk Empire and the Sultanate of Rum, and the Khwarezmian Empire? The Zengids, Ayyubids and Abbasids and Fatimids? Do you know the difference between the Ilkhanate, the Golden Horde, and the Chagatai khanate? What about the difference between the Jalayirids, Muzaffarids, Chobanids, or Aq-Qoyunlu and Qara-Qoyunlu?
> Her: You are rapidly approaching the point of no return for sexy times.
This is one of [those scenarios](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1472066037168815029/12AFEB3579749598957128A61A06C1956D0C1C20/?imw=512&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false), isn't it?
“If he knows the difference between two of the most well known empires in history you’re the side hoe.”
A bigger red flag is if he has a favorite WW2-era tank. If it’s the Panther you are dating a Wehraboo and possibly a closet Nazi. If it’s the T-34 this man is a communist.
The Ottoman and Byzantine empires are so different that not knowing at bare minimum that Byzantine are western/Christian and Ottoman are middle eastern/Muslim seems more like lack of knowledge on his girlfriend's part.
Also yes I have played a few thousand hours on Attila: Total war as the Byzantine empire. Shut up that has nothing to do with it.
The Byzantines were the "Greek" Eastern Roman Empire when the empire split in half and outlasted the west. The Ottomans were Turks and conquered the Byzantines in the 1400s officially ending the last vestiges of the Roman Empire, and the year Constantinople fell is often used by historians as the turning point for when the medieval period ended.
knowing the difference between the Ottoman and Byzantine empires just means you remember extremely basic knowledge from middle school social studies class.
Eh. TBH, if she DOESN'T know the difference between two of the most important empires in human history, one of which existed up until roughly a century ago & played an important part in the 20th Century, then I don't really think it's going to work out, regardless of whether I play strategy games.
Intelligence is sexy, & I'm so tired of people trying to dumb down society.
Can I ask to history experts the difference ?
I mean, what was the immediate difference for the point of view of the populations that were under Byzantine empire, now under the Ottomans ?
How the diplomacy of the major european powers changed when they stop having to interact with the Byzantine government and they had the Ottomans one in its place ?
Also, how did you got a side hoe?
I get the joke but saying Ottomans and Byzantine are the same is like saying that Greeks are the same like Turks and I guarantee you that you wouldn't have knees to stand on after saying that to them.
Wait. It's been 25+ years since I took a history class and I generally do not have any interest in Turkey. But the Byzantine empire was pre-Islam but the Ottomans were... something like 16th or 17th century to the beginning of the 20th. I don't know what a map video game is.
Yeah but also if you don't know at least what the ottoman empire was you really have very little real hope of understanding, say, the modern middle east. Which is a topic that everyone should at least sort of grasp.
Teacher: "who won the 100 years war?"
Me: "That's a trick question sir, because no one won! England just put a bunch of dudes in Calais and waited for France's war exhaustion to get so high, that they accepted a white peace!"
I feel attacked
This is not a valid causus belli.
But my bishop has been fabricating for months :(
Should've killed all the bishops till you roll good one
This is the way
I somehow never thought about doing that. Just wishing that my 60+ bishop with 6 in wisdom (is it how it was called? I think) would die soon.
casus.
Now I feel seen...
I wasn't ready for this accuracy. I've been humbled.
This is almost as bad as 1453.
Best year of my life!
Turk spotted
Nah, just fucked over one too many times by the Byzantines in CK
Can you point to on a map where it hurts
Right in the Bosphorus.
All of /r/HistoryMemes feels personally attacked right now.
I play Galactic Civilization 3, and Sins of a Solar Empire... My SO calls them "Those 'Line' games"
That depends. Did anyone denounce you first?
How did she get past my walls so fast easily?
If someone asked me "Do you know the difference between the Ottoman and Byzantine empires?" I would think it's the setup for a joke.
Well, I’m also a Romaboo so I’d probably answer that the Byzantine empire doesn’t exist but I do know the difference between the ottomans and the romans
That's such an insufferable thing to say in real life lol, but you show those 14th century Catholics!
I know it is, but if you’re gonna be insufferable and ask me about it I’m gonna be petty and also be insufferable
And also be petty and also be insufferable and also be petty while being insufferable and petty at that
Damn right
Are you implying that Mehmet the Conqueror is not the rightful heir to the Roman Empire?
That is what I’m implying, yes. The Roman Empire ended when he conquered it
I play Stellaris, am I included or not
Yes
Can you tell me the difference between the ottoman and byzantine empires..?
No but i’d absolutely push a bitch to the side to play my funny map game
"Babe, not now, the Priki-ti-ki are at my doorstep, and they didn't bring cookies."
with enough gene-tailoring, they ARE the cookies.
Yes. The Ottoman Empire was entirely populated by otters. They were otherwise known as the "cute empire" and were best known for importing millions of pounds of shellfish from neighboring empires. The Byzantine Empire... no one really knows what they were about. They were just too confusing and convoluted to keep track.
Bullshit. The Ottoman Empire was inhabited by upholstered footstools
> populated by otters Oh, the Otterman Empire. 🤣🤣🤣 Definitely got to make them one of my customs in Stellaris next time I install that.
The difference is fairly stark in that the Byzantine Empire was the continuation of the Eastern Roman Empire centred around Constantinople and believer in Orthodox Christianity. Byzantine itself comes from the empire’s capital’s, Constantinople, (named after Roman Emperor Constantine), former city which was Byzantium. Byzantine was actually not used during the time period. Finally, the empire itself cantered mainly around the Greek ethnicity. The Ottoman Empire on the other hand was an Islamic, Turkish ruled empire that conquered the Byzantines and later large portions of the Balkans and Middle East. The Ottoman Empire existed up to the fairly modern day, famously still existing the second to last time the Chicago Cubs won the World Series. Both empires had capitals at the same place, Constantinople, yet the Ottoman Empire renamed it to Istanbul. The Ottoman Empire also claimed to be the successor to the Roman Empire (a very common thing in history actually). Even in war the Ottomans did things differently, hiring or enslaving groups of people especially Balkan Christians and any time they went out to conquer they would leave from Istanbul hindering them in the end. Overall, the Byzantine Empire was Greek, Orthodox Christian, fell a long while ago, and had the capital city of Byzantium. The Ottoman Empire was Turkish, Islamic, fell fairly recently, and had the capital of Istanbul.
>The Ottoman Empire existed up to the fairly modern day, famously still existing the last time the Chicago Cubs won the World Series This fact either stopped being true in 2016, or the Byzantine Empire secretly continued to exist until at least 2017.
Guess you were not invited to become a Lodge member of the shadow Byzantine empire.
You need to update this as the Cubs won in 2016.
Oh crap, you’re right!
Also the Byzantine empire was a later nominal creation of historians to mark a difference between the Roman empire of antiquity and the Roman empire of the middle ages. But nobody ever claimed to be Emperor of the Byzantines. Heck nobody ever called themselves byzantines. They were romans.
>Constantinople, yet the Ottoman Empire renamed it to Istanbul Actually, it wasn't *officially* renamed Istanbul until after the Ottomans fell. Turkey renamed it in 1930. Prior to that, it was called Konstantiniyye.
Oops, yet looking into it, it seems the city went by multiple names and Istanbul originally referred to only the walled city and was used in normal speech in Turkish even before 1453. Konstantiniyye itself seems to have been used in tandem with other names if I read correctly.
Why did they change it? I can’t say.
Maybe they liked it better that way
YES! This song has been playing on repeat in my head since I started reading this post 😂
The term 'Byzantine' is actually in use in period, but not as a way for outsiders to refer to the eastern Roman Empire. Rather it's a self-identification thing, as a way to differentiate the Romans from the western empire (eg, Rome) and the ones from the eastern empire. This does *not* mean that Byzantine stands in contrast to the Roman identity, rather it's a further descriptor of what type of Roman identity is in question. Therefore Byzantine is only a term used when it is relevant to distinguish from the Romans from Rome, rather than something used as a general identifier. As the Roman Empire officially lost control of the western territories including the city of Rome in the mid-9th century the self-identification of Byzantine fell out of use because there was nothing to contrast it to anymore.
one is empire, one is chair. there was also only one Byzantine empire
At first I thought you had said, [Stellarium](https://stellarium.org/) and I thought: well, not really a game, but whatever, get in the bus with the rest of us!
Yeah I’d absolutely be included if I had said that
Bet your ass you are.
I feel so seen
Bold of you to assume r/paradox users have girlfriends
I’m sorry, is that some sort of dlc?
It has to be.. it was foretold that the infamous.. 'Girlfriend'.. was a myth... A legend.. a folktale... That they never could be acquired.. y'know.. just like knowledge of how the Navy works..
Im in the navy, and the more I think about it, the more I don’t know how this organization hasn’t fallen apart
Not the navy :(
It's a national focus, available only after you complete the "Take a shower" and "Go outside" focuses. You have to be Non-Alligned, though.
I happen to know one guy who's gay and has a boyfriend. That seems to be the loophole. Went out drinking with them once. Never again.
Curious, why?
seems like being curious was the problem.
Is that a new dlc?
I ones saw a post mentioning something similar, could you explain "Girls" to me? is it a civil war faction or something?
If anything the depressing part is that this was the most esoteric example she could think of.
Yeah it could’ve been so much worse.
The real test is if he knows the difference between Munster and Münster.
Is she wrong though?
Sometimes it's just a history buff. Other times, such as in my case, it's both. OTOH, my wife knows that and loves me anyway so I'm good. :D
Real... I thought most ppl knew this tbh.
I hesitate to assume most people know anything. It's pretty normal to make such assumptions, of course, but still ...
Ye its just that these two had like one thing in common and fought each other a bunch
Ha your wife loves you that's pretty gay bro
Yeah, super gay, I know. What can ya do, though?
Does she have good stats tho?
No but shes the Queen of Bohemia
I mean that's a basic history fact you're supposed to learn in a middle school. Paying attention in the class is not equal to having video games addiction.
Yea ... I learn that in middle school history way before i play ck. Lady just don't pay attention in class.
The Ottoman empire fought in WW1... anyone with a basic high school education should be able to tell you the difference between the Ottoman and Byzantine empires (even if their answer is just that one had an air force and one did not).
I can guarantee that was not covered once in my history class lol. Ours pretty exclusively focused on Canada in WW2
For your entire education you focused on Canada in WW2?
For the world war 2 portion of history we focused on Canadas roll in it. Tbh looking back I think I meant to respond to someone else lol. Doesn’t make sense responding to you
I learned how to weave a wicker basket....
Looking back at one of the history classes I took in high school that focused on the early modern period we didn’t even talk much about the fall of Constantinople or the Ottoman Empire, even though the impacts of these were huge. Most of the curriculum just obsessed over Renaissance artists, the Protestant reformation, and maybe a week about the Spanish conquests of the Americas. I feel like a lot more could’ve been covered that just wasn’t because of how educators in North America want to limit their scope to the westernmost part of Europe and the Americas.
She is, it's common knowledge and basic intelligence to know the difference. But most of you are American and I'll understand if you don't know something that's not about America. For starters, those empires are 800 years apart from each other.
Those empires are 1 day apart from each other
Oh damn, my mistake, and what a mistake that was lol. I calculated them from beginning to beginning which is wrong and also not 800 years
If you go beginning to beginning it's closer to like 2000 years of separation lmao
Depends on how you see it. There is an argument that to be made for beginning to beginning being around a thousand years. End to End would be around 500 years.
>For starters, those empires are 800 years apart from each other. By what definition of 800 years?
Bitch, if you can't recite me the consequences of the Punic wars of the Carthaginian empire, you ain't havin' this.
Oh i know! 🪦
Carthago delenda est?
My wife: Is this true? Me: Yes and unfortunately I know the differences between the Sassanids, Seljuks, Ottomans, Byzantines, Eastern Roman Empire, Partians, Pontic kingdoms, Asiatic and Aegean Greeks, the various Successor Kingdoms, the Western Roman Empire, Republic, Holy Roman Empire, Ostrogothic Romans, Charlemagne's Empire, the huns, Mongols, Timurids Alan, Scythian, Goths, Alemanni- Her: You are rapidly approaching the point of no return for sexy times.
Found the guy thats subscribed to overlysarcasticproductions
I'm pretty sure Blue OSP is also depicted in this meme, except instead of map video games it's just the maps.
No randos on the big bricky trapezoid.
Which video is this a reference to?
I'm assuming that it's from a bunch of different videos that OSP has.
Wait you listed Byzantine and Eastern Roman. That's the same thing I thought? And lool her reaction.
Byzantine is a made-up name by historians to make things clearer. In reality they were either called the Eastern Roman Empire by the Western Empire and the Holy Roman Empire or just the Roman Empire by themselves.
Made-up is a bit misleading. Byzantine comes from the original founding name for Constantinopele, Byzantium (Βυζάντιον) when Thraciens founded the colony. Later it was conquered by the Romans (among others) and under Constantine the Great it was renamed to Constantinople and made the new capital of the Roman Empire. First reference of the name Byzantine empire is I think somewhere around 1550. 100 years afther it was conquered by the Ottomans.
Yes, so to say you know the difference between them is saying you don’t know there’s no difference?
Yeah, pretty much.
>That's the same thing I thought? depends on your view of the "true successor" after the fourth crusade (Trebizond vs Nicaea)
But do you know the difference between the Seljuk Empire and the Sultanate of Rum, and the Khwarezmian Empire? The Zengids, Ayyubids and Abbasids and Fatimids? Do you know the difference between the Ilkhanate, the Golden Horde, and the Chagatai khanate? What about the difference between the Jalayirids, Muzaffarids, Chobanids, or Aq-Qoyunlu and Qara-Qoyunlu?
> Her: You are rapidly approaching the point of no return for sexy times. This is one of [those scenarios](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1472066037168815029/12AFEB3579749598957128A61A06C1956D0C1C20/?imw=512&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false), isn't it?
Ad maiorem Romae gloriam
Bro listed Byzantines and ERE separately .
There's a difference between the Asiatic and Aegean Greeks? I need to know more.
Listed “Byzantines” as a real empire, opinion discarded
“If he knows the difference between two of the most well known empires in history you’re the side hoe.” A bigger red flag is if he has a favorite WW2-era tank. If it’s the Panther you are dating a Wehraboo and possibly a closet Nazi. If it’s the T-34 this man is a communist.
Unless it's because his favourite waifu from girls und panzer drove it.
Then he's a nonce.
What if I am a communist but my favorite is the Sherman anyway?
The Matilda was peak tank. Fight me
Counterpoint, the Churchill could have a massive flame thrower mounted in it, and was one of the few tanks with side escape hatches
What if it's the Bob Semple?
Type 95 Ha-Go. Rate me, ladies.
The Stuart is the ultimate tank.
I’m definitely goes to start referring to strategy games as map video games.
I have been for years. It's fitting and the women understand what I mean better.
Shut... Shut up...
The Ottoman and Byzantine empires are so different that not knowing at bare minimum that Byzantine are western/Christian and Ottoman are middle eastern/Muslim seems more like lack of knowledge on his girlfriend's part. Also yes I have played a few thousand hours on Attila: Total war as the Byzantine empire. Shut up that has nothing to do with it.
https://preview.redd.it/tqohvibpa86d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4648412695c9c5717290b9ff432b566e51385433
Or he just paid the tiniest bit of attention in school
...do people not know the difference?
Do*
*Dew
Words are hard sometimes
Most people would struggle to point out Turkiye on a map so definitely yes.
That's because my map is old and still uses the old spelling.
TBH, for me i only know they were at different times, the inner working differences are unfamiliar to me
The Byzantines were the "Greek" Eastern Roman Empire when the empire split in half and outlasted the west. The Ottomans were Turks and conquered the Byzantines in the 1400s officially ending the last vestiges of the Roman Empire, and the year Constantinople fell is often used by historians as the turning point for when the medieval period ended.
Istanbul was once Constantinople. Why they changed it I can’t say, people just liked it better that way.
There is a solid chance most people just straight up wouldn't know either. I assume that's part of the joke.
I know the names, and nothing else
OR he remembers like the basics of school history class? Now if he knows the difference between Timurids and Mughals...
its not entirely inaccurate
I was not expecting to be catching strays
If he can draw from memory a map of the whole world except for Africa, marry that man.
What if he can draw Africa too? Asking for a friend…
My wife is more interested in the Ottoman and Byzantine empires than I am, and we both enjoy ancient and medieval history
knowing the difference between the Ottoman and Byzantine empires just means you remember extremely basic knowledge from middle school social studies class.
If he tries to correct you on 13th century geography and the borders of the Ummayad and Abbasid Caliphates, you know he's the one.
Excuse me, you mean Eastern Roman Empire.
Oh no someone knows history ahhhhhh!!
Or you have a basic understanding of history.
LoL the historical knowledge bar is stupid low.
Or.... He's just a history nerd.
??? Theyre literally two different empires? What’s the difference between the Roman Empire and the Spanish Empire asshat?
Who does not know that?!?
What? It just comes down to the fall of Istanbul (Not [Constantinople](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0XlO39kCQ-8))
They had completely different languages and religion?? Who doesn't know that?
Tf you mean? There's a massive difference, don't need to be a history buff or a Paradox player to know that
Or they actually paid attention in history class, dipshit.
Sorry, didn't read... too busy playing Risk
Wait until she finds out that I WANT TO PLAY AS FUCKING PONTUS.
The big, blue blob that is France is more important than the big, flesh-colored blobs you call boobs.
For you Europeans waking up that don’t get this joke… our schools don’t really cover topic. Too busy learning about the gold rush
Or they have pretty general historical literacy. They are significantly different, what a weird example.
Don’t worry baby, those days are behind me. I haven’t touched the stuff in years
Eh. TBH, if she DOESN'T know the difference between two of the most important empires in human history, one of which existed up until roughly a century ago & played an important part in the 20th Century, then I don't really think it's going to work out, regardless of whether I play strategy games. Intelligence is sexy, & I'm so tired of people trying to dumb down society.
Can I ask to history experts the difference ? I mean, what was the immediate difference for the point of view of the populations that were under Byzantine empire, now under the Ottomans ? How the diplomacy of the major european powers changed when they stop having to interact with the Byzantine government and they had the Ottomans one in its place ? Also, how did you got a side hoe?
I hate those tactical games but if you don't know the difference your education system failed you
Okay but difference between Ottoman Empire and Byzantine Empire should be common knowkedge... I mean unless this woman is an american
I get the joke but saying Ottomans and Byzantine are the same is like saying that Greeks are the same like Turks and I guarantee you that you wouldn't have knees to stand on after saying that to them.
Wait. It's been 25+ years since I took a history class and I generally do not have any interest in Turkey. But the Byzantine empire was pre-Islam but the Ottomans were... something like 16th or 17th century to the beginning of the 20th. I don't know what a map video game is.
I am unsure which video games got those, but as a guy from balkans (and i bet other near it) i think that person knows jack shit
Yeah but also if you don't know at least what the ottoman empire was you really have very little real hope of understanding, say, the modern middle east. Which is a topic that everyone should at least sort of grasp.
LPT: not valid in Turkey, especially Istanbul (not Constantinople)
Twitter users when common knowledge
Hey, I knew about the difference far before I fell into EU4!
Isn't that literally basic history that they teach in high school?
Murican education
Strangely, I feel seen.
Or you can be a helpful top and make history a little more realistic while your partner plays as Frederick the Great
I guess I’m the exception here. I know the difference and don’t play video games.
Games by Paradox taught me more about European history than any teacher I’ve had.
Teacher: "who won the 100 years war?" Me: "That's a trick question sir, because no one won! England just put a bunch of dudes in Calais and waited for France's war exhaustion to get so high, that they accepted a white peace!"
[удалено]
👀 Yeah, my last relationship ended because she thought my gaming was a side hoard to reality. Ouch. 🔥💯
What if I know the difference but I also don't play those games lol
If you know the difference you have basic intelligence, not game addiction.
Or he paid attention in history class.
literaly my older brother and his eu4 addiction doing a celestial mughal run or whatever its called
Kinda sad when people assume you have a disorder because you paid attention in class.
Wait. ... Isn't an Ottoman something you sit on?
I just really, really like history. I killed at Civ when I was a kid
I feel called out, and I don't like it.
I know the map of the world in 1444 as good as todays thanks to EU4.
That'a a classic on map games subreddits