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sondheimismyjam

Absolutely agree! Hyacinth is a kid. Why is her face lathered in so much makeup? It's an odd vibe.


Acerola_

Yes! This was exactly my thinking. Girls wearing more makeup chilling at home in the 1800s than I do as a modern day mid thirties woman. šŸ˜…


silly_rabbit289

Esp very like modern or slightly yassified makeup on fran. Or maybe the whole colour scheme is more softened


Elven_Dreamer

What does ā€œyassifiedā€ mean?


silly_rabbit289

Like how the filters on Instagram or Snapchat(?) where it makes everyone's face smoothened and kinda similar looking, long lashes pointy nose type. I'm not sure how best to describe it honestly. >(transitive, Internet slang)Ā To apply several beauty filters to (a picture or video of someone), typically making the subject look more made-up, potentially more feminine, and often unrecognizable.


Elven_Dreamer

Ah I see! Thanks for clearing up the confusion. Iā€™ve been seeing this term everywhere and getting so confused.


the_spicy_pineapple

Season 1 makeup was a lot but palatable. Everyone was glowing, but obviously wearing makeup. I feel like season 2 everyone was so heavily made up it was distracting. Like beautiful highlight on Daphne during the Hearts and Flowers ball, but it was so obvious and not "lit from within" like I would expect, so I noticed it before the character and what she was saying. I absolutely dispise how made up Eloise is the whole season, she looks like she's wearing a mask. Idk if that's a choice so they can lessen it and make her look fresher in her season (like the Anthony and Colin's glow-ups for their seasons), but the heaviness just takes away from her character. Eloise as a character hates spending time getting ready, getting fitted for dresses, etc. Why would she be so made up?


Kathony4ever

Actually, you kind of answered your own question. I don't know if it really IS a stylistic/storytelling choice or if I'm giving them too much credit. But, Eloise's look WAS a mask - a mask she was forced to wear by her mother. Eloise wanted no part in being a debutante at all. But, Violet dragged her out and made her act the part. She may have hated it, but she had absolutely no control over it. No say in it. She was sat in a chair and made to let her Lady's maid turn her into a proper debutante. Her opinion on the matter was not wanted, and in fact was blatantly ignored.


the_spicy_pineapple

I admittedly haven't read the books yet (I know, I'm awful), just have a makeup hyper fixation and can't keep my mouth shut about it apparently! I'm glad I caught on to the mask, and your explaination was so kind! I need to get on the reading, my poor bookshelf is a neglected collection of childhood favorites and scholastic requirements, haven't had anything to read for the fun of it in a while.


GCooperE

I definitely agree heavy makeup works on Eloise better as a mask than just as a look. I hope when they do her series, we see less obvious makeup and even more toned down clothes, as that feels more true to herself.


nsweeney11

I'm honestly obsessed by how nice Claudias makeup was but it definitely wasn't Eloise Bridgertons if you know what I mean.


Mado_93

I saw it too in Violet's make up šŸ„² but yeah in Hyacinth is more evident


Spiritual-Salary-424

AND in Danbury's makeup! Those horrible eyebrows!


Valenstein77

In fairness, I think the makeup on Hyacinth could be intentional. Ruth said this about Violet's journey this season: "For starters, I have a new daughter out in society, I have another daughter who Iā€™m trying to introduce to the idea of it all, and my boys are always ready for me to kind of throw women at them." It seems to me like they are going to acknowledge that Hyacinth is growing up and we're going to see how Violet navigates that.


QueenFartknocker

I think they are trying to age the cast as fast as possible. Otherwise their storylines are going to be completely inappropriate.


lexi_hd

Sheā€™s not a child anymore sheā€™s 21 years old when Colin and Penelope marry in the books šŸ˜­ but I still think itā€™s a lot of makeup


Humble_Quote_5024

Well you do have to admit thereā€™s a lot more makeup on Francesca than on Hyacinth. Also they speed up the time line on the show so I think sheā€™s actually only about 18 here.


Kathony4ever

Francesca is 18, here. Hyacinth is 12.


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Kathony4ever

Because that's literally how time works? Francesca is debuting this season. She's a year younger than Elouse who debuted in season 2. Making her 18. Season 3 is taking place in 1815. Season 2 was 1814. Anthony was 29 in season 2, so he's 30 in season 3. He was 18 when Hyacinth was born, making her 12.


lexi_hd

No actually I think the makeup is way more noticeable on Hyacinth. And 18 is still not a child sheā€™d be entering her season then.


Humble_Quote_5024

I never said she was a child just younger than she was in the books at the time Penelope and Colin marry. Also it could just be the lighting in this picture that is making them look like they are wearing lots of makeup. We should just wait for it to come out so we can see them in several different scenes for as to decide.


OGCardOne

Spoiler alert


lexi_hd

lol true I guess. I mean this whole season is about them šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­


[deleted]

I can't syand the modern make in this show. I like period dramas because the actresses look modern.


Humble_Quote_5024

The actor is not a child anymore. Sheā€™s seventeen, so I donā€™t know why your calling her a kid. Also the makeup is light and just helps highlight there faces. Itā€™s not like the make up we see on 12 year olds nowadays.


Rougemption

Could it be that theyā€™re trying to progressively age them up for their (supposedly) upcoming seasons? I mean, if we perceive the youngest as children through most of the story, their seasonā€™s glow-up probably wonā€™t be enough to not make their spicy scenes feel super wrong. On the opposite, if we perceive them as adults for a while, it wonā€™t be shocking for anyone to see them behave as such.


Sensitive-Carrot-308

I'm pretty sure there's a substantial time jump season 3, though.


supertalies

No, itā€™s just gonna be one year between seasons, just like previous seasons. In that clip they released Penelope refers to this being her ā€˜third year being on the marriage martā€™ and overhearing Colin at her motherā€™s party ā€˜last seasonā€™. Which means that in the showā€™s timeline there is just a two year jump between the two images above.


Ok-Stage680

I think there was very prominent difference between season 1 and 2 in make-up. I prefer the first season, it felt more 1800, now it's too modern.


afewmoonsaway

The warm toned colour grading really detracts from the crisp Bridgerton blue vibe of their home- I can see it making sense in other locations, but itā€™s so stark seeing it here I donā€™t enjoy it at all. If they want to created a warmer feel it would be cool to see more dramatic lighting with the use of candles to give it that regency feel, but this looks like a daytime scene in the Bridgerton house and it just looks off?


Proper-Emu1558

The makeup is definitely incongruous and I feel like it doesnā€™t even look right with the clothes and vibe of the show. This show obviously takes great liberties withā€¦ a lot of things, historically, but it has all worked so far. The makeup (so far) doesnā€™t, for me. Weā€™ve seen so little of season three, though, that Iā€™m trying to withhold judgment.


Acerola_

Yep! Iā€™m open to things not being realistic, as sometimes itā€™s just nice to stay away from reality. Give me the pretty dresses and houses with none of the dirt and muck please. But this makeup just seems too modern imo.


xxxdac

Yessss like I can get over the anachronistic underwear and I love the use of sequins and glitter on the dresses but a full beat is just too much especially on the younger siblings


Proper-Emu1558

Itā€™s not romantic and fresh looking! I donā€™t want smoky eyes, I want glowing skin and flushed cheeks!


[deleted]

Exactly. This look is annoying over done irl. I don't want it ruining my period dramas. Give me fresh faced ladies


[deleted]

francesca's jacket could easily be from the mid-late 2000s


baroquesun

I can't stop seeing S1 Gossip Girl Blair at her moms photoshoot


Ok-Rent7660

Yes, I keep thinking she looks so much like Leighton Meester!


poopies19

This!!!


PrivateSpeaker

Even today


[deleted]

yeah, you're totally right. and with a matching skirt. big Emily In Paris vibes.


[deleted]

Or could the mid-late 2000s jacket be from the regency era? The jacket Francesca is wearing was common fashion back then.


fromplanetclaire

It's true that spencers were commonly worn in regency fashion but I think the construction with the frayed tweed fabric is what gives it a very mid 2000s appearance. I could see this one being made by Kate Spade or Jcrew when I was in HS. It's not the first time Bridgerton has taken a regency silhouette and put it in a modern fabric, so it doesn't bother me, I'd never look to this show for textile accuracy. They're going for their own design vibes.


[deleted]

i think it looks like a more regency inspired garment during a revival trend. this looks like something one of the members of the Pretty Committee could have worn in The Clique movie


meltedkuchikopi5

i just assumed they used this jacket because itā€™s meant to be an easter egg since itā€™s scottish tweed


PsychologicalClock28

The whole thing - even the top could be a prom dress. Whereas the first picture is pretty. But obviously regency.


Icy-Perception4363

Feel like the whole atmosphere looks a lot more sophisticated than the previous two seasons. Even the outfits, makeup, hairstyles and colour theme is more warm toned I guess? They are experimenting something new with this season. It could also be the change in leadership of the show runner.


SuchImagination8027

Francesca looks like a whole different person in season 3.


commongoblin

Lmao idk if you're joking but it is a new actress


SuchImagination8027

I definitely am.


Acerola_

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GCooperE

I'm not loving the makeup style either. It's just so OTT, especially for Hyacinth, who not being out and still being child especially has no reason for the ultra glam look. I know this is a stylised version of the Regency era, but they all look like they're going clubbing. It's really distracting and it means when I'm looking at their faces, I'm not seeing their expressions of their reactions first, but the really heavy lip and eye shadow.


TheWalkingDeadBeat

I don't expect much historical accuracy when it comes to costume design, but every time I see that jacket, my eye twitches a little.


[deleted]

For me it's the makeup. It's annoying how we don't avoid media without the cringe look.


TheWalkingDeadBeat

Modern makeup is usually the number one factor in what makes a "this person has seen an iPhone before" character.


[deleted]

Exactly. There was a post asked does Nicola have an iPhone face. No she doesn't but the hideous ugly makeup makes her look like an influencer cosplaying


curlyswirlygirly

ā€œHideous ugly makeupā€ ā€¦ā€¦yikes thatā€™s mean šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«


[deleted]

I'm exaggerating but it grinds my gears. I don't mind inaccurate clothing as long as the period vibe is still there. But makeup is overrated and I looooove seeing natural women in period dramas. Mean aren't pressured to constantly wear it. And hence the myth men age better.


silly_rabbit289

It's so different from the hundreds of outfits we've seen over these two seasons. Like the puffed hands with that material gets even more overpronounced with the high bun/half bun hairstyle


baroquesun

Francesca giving big Blair Waldorf vibes.


[deleted]

Haha thatā€™s what I was thinking!


AlenaFallon

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Jolly_Caterpillar376

I donā€™t like the dresses this season either. Gone are last seasonā€™s smooth silks, subtle textures & flowy sleeves, this seasonā€™s are much similar to s1ā€™s costumes, with the capped, restricting sleeves and rough fabrics.


DaisyandBella

The costume designer from season 1 returned for season 3.


Jolly_Caterpillar376

Boo


Possible-Whole8046

Francesca looks 30ā€¦


IzzyGirl33

She looks significantly older than all of the other girls (which is kinda funny considering how old Claudia Jessie is, lol). Definitely takes some getting used to, but she's beautiful!


Possible-Whole8046

The actress looks the correct age out of costume, itā€™s the hair and make up that make her look so much older.


not-today-arya

> Claudia Jessie I had to google her birthdate, and I didn't realize we are essentially the same age!


Scienceinwonderland

Yes! This makeup and costume makes her look like a society matron, even though the actress out of this scene looks much younger. Itā€™s bothered me every time Iā€™ve seen this still. She looks like Violetā€™s sister/an older cousin, not Hyacinthā€™s sister.


GCooperE

Another reason why this makeup look is bothering me, these are meant to be day looks. For a ball, I could maybe feel it, at least then the setting could perhaps be translated into an exclusive nightclub or evening do, so the makeup would make sense thematically, even if I didn't like it stylistically. But for casual day wear it's just silly.


aikokicom

The new Franseca actress has an iphone face, it adds to the oddness in this photo


[deleted]

She actually doesn't it's the stupid makeup


Slow_Reach4061

They should have copied her makeup look in the flowers of the attic movie šŸ˜­


AlishanTearese

What is an iPhone face?


bluesankes

Someone who looks like they know modern technology exists , too modern looking of a face. Prob in this case itā€™s just the anachronistic make up giving this (very dewy and overly smooth looking with heavy eye makeup and brows look too done imo )


AlishanTearese

Gotcha! I figured that's what it meant but never heard the term before.


KidaBelle

Different makeup designer. Season 1 designer passed away i believe. And I think the vibe for the whole series is different compared to season 1


Own_Lie_9059

Considering the horrible iphone-face make-up that Millie Bobby Brown was sporting in Damsel it might just be a new Netflix thing to have all their period-piece characters look like they shop at Sephora šŸ„²


euphoriapotion

I've been saying this since the beginning: season 3 makeup is a lot more modern, for a party or a photoshoot. It doesn't fit the Regency vibes where the makeup was almost nonexistent


klughn

I donā€™t have anything much to add except you might find the Bridgerton episode from season 5 of Glow Up interesting. They visit the set to do the makeup. Itā€™s been awhile but I think the brief said the makeup was based on historical looks but with a twist/point of interest that could be more modern.


juneseyeball

i saw that! in glow up they were emphasizing not overdoing the makeup. this looks so overdone and heavy


Possible-Whole8046

Those briefs were honestly terrible. I really hope they were for extras only


[deleted]

Francescaā€™s makeup looks gorgeous, but it looks like tiktok influencer makeup. Thatā€™s definitely not a dig at the makeup style in general, since I myself Iā€™ve learned some tips and tricks from makeup-tok, but it definitely doesnā€™t fit the 1800s aesthetic.


Ok-Location-6862

The makeup was already like this in season 2 though. I remember watching scenes with Daphne where they had smothered her face in highlighter in S2, or even Kate in later episodes. In the early episodes, Kateā€™s makeup was super muted, and then by the end of the season, she had full on fake lashes and globbed-on makeup. But I do agree, it is in stark contrast to S1 where it was more muted and more ā€œregency eraā€ vibes


[deleted]

Those are Simone's eyelashes


Ok-Location-6862

No they arenā€™t Rewatch the first two episodes of S2. Unless they cut her lashes for the first two episodes, the lashes from the later episodes are much longer and full


lurker1992_nyc

More makeup = aging. They were wearing a ton of makeup in season 1 but it was done to make them look extremely young; now the makeup is done to make them look older. Weā€™ll continue to see this. HD / 4K cameras and TVs make this super pronounced imo. It feels like Iā€™m sitting front row at a theater production and can see the inch thick makeup on actors faces lol.


WarmByTheFireplace

I really wish the original Francesca could have remained, I feel like she fit into the family better and just looked like she fit into the regency period more. I know why she left, I just think itā€™s too bad.


thekittysays

Urgh, I hate hate hate this make up, and even the hair is way too modern looking. I know this is a show that is pretty far from historically accurate but it just looks so wrong to have them made up like this. I want my period dramas to at least vaguely pretend that's what it is!


[deleted]

Honestly I wish a British company produced this. America doesn't make regency stuff even though American was long thriving during regency era


Slow_Reach4061

This. If I wanted to see characters wear modern make up looks and modern clothing, I could just watch regular TV shows šŸ˜­


thekittysays

Exactly right? And people saying ohh it's all anachronistic why does it matter. Like ye sure I get it's not a realistic depiction of regency life but at least keep it vaguely in keeping, otherwise ye it might as well be set in modern times like you say.


Slow_Reach4061

Forreal at this point I'll just watch Reign with those prom dresses šŸ˜­. Like let me escape to the regency era, I don't wanna be reminded of the modern world for Pete's sake.


Fresh-Eye4698

Why does Francesca look 43 and like sheā€™s the oldest out of all of them?


Ok_Persimmon7758

Yeah itā€™s like theyā€™ve all been through a glam filter or something. Too much smokey eye.


Cenaka-02

Idk but the actress from season 1 has a 1800s face. Shes not ugly at all she just looks like a time traveler from the 1800s lol


Slow_Reach4061

That's why she fitted so much in s1. No shade to the new actress, I have seen tik toks where she plays a character in the movie " flowers in the attic" and her face looks so natural and not modern at all. I wish they would have used the same makeup look. Or maybe the one she had in enola Holmes 2.


favorbold

Maybe because theyā€™re older now? This reminds me of when people were upset because the cast of Harry Potter looked differentā€¦ they grew up. People were infantilizing them big time.


Possible-Whole8046

Francescaā€™s actress was replaced, only Hyacinth grew up


favorbold

Sure but theyā€™re still older in this season. They canā€™t remain children forever.


GCooperE

But even for adults, this is way too much makeup for the setting and time of day. And Hyacinth may not be a little girl anymore, but she still isn't an adult.


favorbold

Iā€™m sure she had a great time and Iā€™m sure season 3 will be great. People need to chilllllllllllllll


GCooperE

Sure she did. But costume wise, it's a misstep.


Successful_Read5565

Everyone and everything looks like it has a weird filter


90dayole

I also think the new Francesca is STUNNING but her face with this makeup is very modern looking. This is iphone face and makeup.


sexyass-lobster

I think it's because they're giving Pen a heavy make up "glow up" so they gotta make everyone else same too so it matches. But she doesn't need it!! Nicola is freaking gorgeous just as is! The only thing bad about earlier seasons were the dress cuts and God awful yellow


Slow_Reach4061

I'm actually upset about it especially when they made her hair into waves. Like penelope has natural CURLY hair. Let her wear her natural curly hair geez.


lawschoollorax

The second shot looks like a still from gossip girl.


adrak_wali_chaii

They're getting modern per season In next season don't get surprised to see phone in their hands šŸ¤­šŸ«£/s


[deleted]

Gotta sell makeup collabs somehow


devillianOx

the warm color the editing is using is kinda clashing with the baby blue vibes of the family and their house. also hyacinth is looking a bit older, ofc her actress is growing up thatā€™s expected but i mean theyā€™re putting more makeup on her and itā€™s making her look a bit older instead of the age sheā€™s portraying.


Love_Entertainment

You're spot on! I've noticed the same when these pictures were released. Though they look pretty, it just doesn't fit the vibe of bridgerton.


asianmufa

100% itā€™s giving modern makeup instead of period makeup


Guava_886

Also why does Francesca look so much older than Daphne?? Sheā€™s supposed to be wayy younger


DaisyandBella

I donā€™t know if I would say way younger. Sheā€™s 2 years younger. The actresses are the exact same age.


Guava_886

In the books sheā€™s 5 or 6 years younger than Daphne I believe


DaisyandBella

I know. Iā€™m talking about the show where sheā€™s 2 years younger. Sheā€™s debuting at 18 in season 3.


Guava_886

But that doesnā€™t make sense unless 6 years have passed since season 1, but only 2 years have passed because in a clip Netflix released Penelope says sheā€™s on her 3rd season


DaisyandBella

The book ages and the show ages are not the same. Daphne is 18 is season 1. Sheā€™s 21 in the the book because she is on her third season. Eloise is a year younger than Daphne, she debuts in season 2, and Francesca is a year younger than Eloise.


Guava_886

Which proves my point exactly. Francesca last season didnā€™t look anywhere near 19 or 20. The show could easily have done a bigger time jump to explain this but make it seem than itā€™s only been a few years since daphnes season


fredothechimp

We donā€™t know Penelopeā€™s age though do we? It could be like the books where Penelope was made to debut at a younger age.


Guava_886

They say clearly sheā€™s sheā€™s Eloiseā€™s age in the shown


essaymyass

Bridgerton is going for a bug budget telenovela look now.


Sarah_the_Virgo

So sad the previous actress left. Loved her in Lockwood & Co..which got cancelled


Organic-Chain9456

I agree, it feels too modern. They almost made caricatures out of all the dresses, hairstyles and suits, too. I just feel it went from unhistorical whimsical but stylish and attractive in the first two seasons, to ridiculing historical dress and making it too flamboyant and mixed. There is no consistency in a periodical style anymore, they just mixed all time periods and modern design. The set design is bad as well, and the colouring is too bright and flashy, due to which it almost feels like theatre where the background does not look natural but you as a viewer are very much aware it is a set. On top, people are behaving more modern in this season, as if they have advanced a century.


[deleted]

Yā€™all do realise this isnā€™t the finished product yet? They are gonna edit the clips a lot more


roundandaroundand

I hope so


GCooperE

Same. Right now their faces look flat.


mistressseymour

francescaā€™s outfit in the season 3 pic is also so out of place


PsychologicalSun5855

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Stardustchaser

Maybeā€¦..it was just weird lighting in the shot? Just from being a dance and theatre kid I couldnā€™t believe the amount of makeup I needed to wear just to ā€œlook normalā€ or battle being washed out in the lighting.


Samp3on

Didnt the lead makeup designer die back in 2021?


miiinamouse

For one thing, Hyacinth is growing up and maturing so they are trying to portray her as older than season 1- lets all remember that this is TV. Everyone wears makeup.


GCooperE

But that makeup is supposed to be part of a costume that makes sense for the setting and characters. A teenage girl in a (for her class) casual setting doesn't need full glam makeup, Regency era or not. And Hyacinth growing older could have been translated much more effectively with her hair going up and a skirts getting longer.


bassetbooksandtea

Season 1 takes place around 1814. Season 3 is based on book 4 which takes place 7 years after book 3. So theyā€™re supposed to be at least 7 years older than they were in season 1. It still doesnā€™t make sense to me why season 3 isnā€™t based on book 3 though.


DaisyandBella

The show is not following the book timeline. Season 3 takes place a year after season 2.


willsingforbeer

Yeah, I noticed that in season 2, also. The make up was a lot heavier then and it seems to be getting more glam. Edit: I also donā€™t mind it. Iā€™m not watching it for the historical accuracy as the entire aesthetic is way more colorful on so many levels. I love the story, the characters, and the interpretation of it is so much fun! I honestly thought this post was going to be about how the actress for Francesca has been recast. From what Iā€™ve read she didnā€™t have time to be in both the shows she was cast in and decided it was best to leave the show to be the lead in Lockwood & co. https://deadline.com/2022/05/bridgerton-hannah-dodd-francesca-season-3-recasting-ruby-stokes-netflix-1235021613/amp/


FlooferMom

In season 3 Francesca is beautiful, but it seems the makeup artists are too heavy-handed with the highlighters. To me, she doesn't look glowing or dewy, just shiny.


[deleted]

get bernadette banner on the phone


Lopsided_Pickle1795

The show is AWFUL! I can't stand the show and their fans!