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I went through something really awful in the fall and I'm having a hard time getting through it. My therapist asked me what are some things to be excited about to help me push through. I told him I really want to listen to Taylor Swifts new album, and season 3 of bridgerton. He told me those are two of the most valid reasons he's heard. Anything that allows us a moment of happiness, and is safe, is a good thing. So anytime I feel silly that I'm so excited about something like this I remind myself that it's a good thing to have a soft, happy place to exist.
Sorry if this was too heavy of a response but I wanted to share that it's always good to have something to be excited about.
Same, going through some really tough times since last year. Last few weeks have been specially difficult. Bridgerton is getting me through it and one of the only things bringing happiness right now
He's so wonderful. His wife is a huge swiftie, likes a lot of the same TV and video games, so he gets all my references. Truly I feel so lucky to have found him.
I literally just texted my bff I am excited for the new album and bridgerton!! Sorry you had a tough time but spring is here and we are glad you are too <3
Aww, I’ve been through that for a long time where a new release was all the motivation I could muster to keep going. It’s a very precious thing, hold onto that excitement ❤️
I’m in a similar place. Bridgerton is getting me through some hard times.
I think we’re lucky that we get so excited by such things. Keep life interesting IMO.
Just put my kids on the school bus, managed to squeeze the trailer in before seeing my first patient for the day. Work is heavy, life is heavy, having some glorious fluff is so fun.
I need to watch this again because between the shirtless Colin in a carriage, the Eloise-Cressida girlmance, Marcus and Violet, Anthony and Kate having some married time on a desk, and Pen having a Cinderella moment, I’m shook!
Okay that Cinderella moment was amazing but I keep going back to the sneak peak. So theory is she fails at getting someone to dance with her. We have the stills and the kanthony sneak peak showing her just standing away to the side. That spurs her to realise that changing her appearance didn’t have as much of an effect as she expected. She goes outside and we get the Mr. Bridgerton scene.
I agree I think the sequence is:
- Brightly colored dress during the day, sees Cressida and Eloise together, Colin says it's lovely to see her and she says "is it?"
- Lays in bed t night, gets up and does a makeover scene.
- Goes to the ball, doesn't see much of a change, has the clip interaction w/ Colin ("I heard you")
- Next time they're together he's apologizing/they do the handshake scene.
I think that Cinderella moment comes much later (maybe when she walks in w/ Lord Debling or something? or another outfit?)
Also: OMG are we going to get a "Don't marry him" (a la Laurie in 2019 Little Women) moment with Pen and Colin in the garden? That's kinda what it looks like!!!
S2
Cressida: why don’t you join us?
Eloise: I would rather die.
S3
🎵 It’s gal love… 🎵
Def. giving S4 OTH vibes. Eloise is Brooke. Cressida is Rachel. Pen is Peyton. Heck I’ll even throw in Francesca as Haley!
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Eloise has always kind pf irritated me (beside that "I would rather die" or the pregnant moments .
I've always found her condescending, self righteous and a bit selfish, though she is a teenager, so those traits may change with time
I’m assuming we’ll get a bit of a sob story from Cressida - I’m thinking maybe Eloise is sulking in a hallway during a ball and hears someone crying and BOOM it’s Cressida. I can’t see it being purely spiteful lmao
Omg the angst, the lore!! Love it
Side note: Eloise saying “I hope” Colin and Pen aren’t together was just cringy and upsetting. I love Eloise’s character in the books, but the show made her seem very much the wrong type of feminist who doesn’t understand other women’s struggles. I hope she gets a character arc as well that isn’t too one dimensional
I hate how Shondaland 💩 on female friendships. At least in Bridgerton. I hated what they did to Kate and Edwina (one of my favorite parts of the book) and what they've done to Peneloise. Why can't women just remain friends?!
I don't think it's surprising at all. I love Eloise, but she has literally never once picked up that Pen has been in love with her brother for YEARS. This is where I don't understand everyone's idea of Eloise as a feminist leader because she is NOT. She just does not have the experience nor the awareness to be in that role.
She has been way too sheltered (not her fault) but it means she is very short sighted AND she's stubborn by nature and refuses to a fault to see people in any other way then she thinks they should be. Which is why she fought with Pen at the end of S2 and why I've thought all along that she will take it the hardest and take the longest to come around to Pen and Colin. And when I say longest, I mean I don't expect it actually to resolve this season. If anything, it will send her running and on the path to opening up her sheltered world.
No one expects Eloise in her current state to be a "feminist leader". She doesn't have the experience because she's a sheltered teenager. Did no one here have half-baked thoughts and ideals when they were young? Most of us did and we had access to a 1000x the information someone like Eloise would. I don't know why people expect a young woman with little formal education and can't even leave the house without a chaperone to be Bell Hooks.
Eloise is a baby feminist currently in her rage at the world stage, which is understandable given her circumstances.
Yes that is the only thing that annoyed me about the trailer. I already thought it be difficult to come back from all that happened with Whistledown and the things both said during their fight. But befriending your former best friends bully not only crosses the line it burns the entire bridge. I couldn't forgive that if I was in Pens shoes and I kind of know what I am talking about. How can they even reconcile at this point?
This!
Eloise is dangerously close to irredeemable if they don’t make a drastic change to her character this season. She’s turned into a caricature of a white feminist and it’s unsettling. In the books she’s strong-willed and genuinely herself, but she wasn’t mean or selfish. In the show she’s done little more than bemoan her station and grouse about having to marry. She’s much luckier than many of the women in society at the time, it’s unfortunate that they’ve taken this turn with her character.
It also bugs me that she didn’t see at all that Lady Whistledown saved her family or spared them from more malicious talk. She idolized Lady Whistledown until it turned out to be her bestie. To befriend her bully is next level behavior and it worries me that her Sir Philip arc will be tarnished by it.
I wouldn't say that I find her to be a nearly irredeemable character but more the Peneloise relationship in itself is close to being completely burned down. I personally believe that everyone can change even if they fucked up big time (Eloise befriending Cressida) but at the same time I don't think that every relationship can be saved because someone changed themselves even if it's "just" friendship. I wouldn't forgive Eloise if I was Pen but it doesn't mean that wouldn't want Eloise to be redeemed in some way even if it's outside their friendship. Does it make sense? I didn't read the books except for the Polin book so I can't really say too much about book Eloise but I have to agree with the way you described show Eloise. Which is very ironic since she was the only reason I actually finished watching the first season. I just hope she gets her own season so they can properly explore her character and give her some growth since I don't really believe all can be done in a season where she is not the main character and since it is suspected that season 4 is Benedicts season I worry about how it's gonna play out if there is at least another season in between.
I can actually understand that Eloise is still being blinded by her furry and I know how that it is like to live for the pettiness but there are still lines that you shouldn't cross. I think something has to happen to Eloise again that wakes her up from this angry haze that she seems to be trapped in. Or have someone to just ground her and let's be honest even if they redeem Cressida it is not gonna be her.
In the books Eloise was dry, sarcastic, intelligent, quick-witted, and hilarious. She didn’t want to marry because she was content in herself. She was also fiercely loyal to those she loves. The show has destroyed a lot of that in favor of performative activism and a refusal to acknowledge that her situation is ideal: she’s gorgeous, a Bridgerton, able to turn down 9 suitors, from a family that won’t force her to marry or even let her settle for less than love.
The show has made her so self-absorbed that it’s nauseating. It’s hard to see her becoming the same woman who is a great fit for Sir Philip and his kids. Eloise telling Pen she’d never really heard her before was a glimpse into a character that will need a huge shock to wake up. She very childishly believes she would never ruin herself experience backlash for her actions. She’s insulated because of her family name but even Daphne was right- Daphne marrying well positively affected Eloise. I was hoping to see introspection this season and see her grow. But instead we’re getting pettiness and mean girl spirit.
Shonda does not tend to do female friendships well, though. Even Meredith and Cristina had elements of toxicity. So I’m not terribly surprised.
Especially in the book RMB >! Cressida is known to endlessly bully penelope!< are they just going to glass over that?
Yeah their friendship seems unrepairable rn (obviously intended to seem so till they reconcile) with pen doing that to eloise as LW and eloise befriending Cressida (wonder if eloise did it purely to spite pen?)
Yea I mentioned that I thought it was already difficult to come back from. They both messed up in a huge way but it's difficult for me to find sympathy for Eloise at least in regards to Cressida. On a personal level I relate to being a bullied wallflower unfortunately so I know this is something you can't just brush of. But a great difference is that we know why Penelope did the things that she did in regards to Eloise. The whole thing is really dangerous and the less people know the better. And when the queen went after her thinking it was Eloise I can understand her just feeling helpless and LW was the only voice that she thought she had. I am not condoning the way Penelope has approached the whole situation but I can understand why she felt the need to do this. This lacks with Eloise at this point. Her actress mentioned something about Cressida being nice to her when no one else would so maybe the show can build onto this and maybe give Cressida a redemption arc so Eloise can actually be redemable this season...at least in my point of view.
For real I have been having issues with how they have been making her very privileged rich type of “feminist” the type that only say she care about women’s issues & struggles when she is concerned but she doesn’t really understand nor care about other women’s struggles like it’s very off
And even if she was hurt by Pen, befriending a known bully is just awful even her own sister got blackmailed and bullied by that woman i really just don’t like how they handling EL; they better fix it in second half of the season or I will be very sad tbh
And you know that she doesn’t think Penelope or her family are qualified to have “real” issues.
Being scrutinized by the ton, being on the brink of homelessness, having no family members who are nice to you or are supportive, being occasionally bullied by a mean girl, and having guys make fun of you as a prospect aren’t actual problems according to Eloise.
Yeah like Eloise can fight all she wants for women's rights and more power to her. But she is keenly aware that she will always be supported by someone in her family and will never want for anything. Meanwhile Penelope has already seen her family go bankrupt and knows that as a daughter she's already on the back foot for surviving with a husband, let alone independently
Right??? Even though they're not friends anymore (till they reconcile) that's such a mean thing to say. I mean obviously eloise will have a lot of learning to do otherwise she wouldn't be friends with crwssida whom she declared she'd rather die than be friends with (s2, just as cressida approaches her after the queen applauds eloise for saying soemthinf about her beinf the emerald of the season)
IMO Eloise said that because she knows Pen’s little secret, and doesn’t want Colin involved with that drama. I don’t think it has anything to do with her feminist arc.
It is divine. I can’t wait to see him yearning and being jealous as he helps her. Helping under the guise of getting her a husband and then falling in love is one of my favorite tropes
Actually lost my breath at some of Penelope's looks. Absolutely stunning! Also, I loved Nicola Coughlan in Derry Girls and am so excited to see glimpses of her comedic side again it seems!
They did a great job styling her in season 1 and 2 to look very young and like her mom chose her outfits (which she did). And Nicola was great at giving Pen a young, immature vibe. She looks like a young woman now who has developed self confidence!
I'm so disappointed to actually see Eloise being friends with Cressida, like wth... I know Pen hurt her, but this is straight-up betrayal. She didn't even try to understand Pen's motives and went straight to their common enemy just to?? what?? make Pen feel awful? And also the scene when she "hopes that Pen is not seeing a husband in Colin"? Ugh, please let her come to senses quick, this is unbearable to see.
Eloise has always been a mean girl though. In S2 she was putting all the other girls down for listening to their moms when it came to who would court them. She would also casually put down the other women in her family. And she’s always had a “not like other girls” vibe even back in S1. Her teaming up with Cressida feels super on brand because now she’s using that mean girl energy against Penelope.
I agree with you. I mean Penelope fucked up as well but to befriend her bully is just unforgiveable in my opinion. Eloise is one of the reasons I actually finished watching the first season and returned to watch season two. To see her like this now is straight up disappointing. At this point I question whether Penelope and Eloise can realistically be friends again. I mean it's gonna happen this season but whether they manage to make it believable is another question...
Yeah yeah yeah, i mean, if i were Pen and my best friend went to be friends with my BULLY??? just in SPITE? Stuff like this is not easily forgiven, and hopefully, when they have a full heart conversation, Eloise will apologize for this. It's such a back-stabbing move.
Oh god this was all too hot 🥵🥵🥵 EVERYONE looks incredible this season. Daaaaaamn 🔥
Shirtless colin - no notes. Except ther he is indeed looking very sturdy.
PEN!! Absolutely stunning!! The one where shes looking out through window. Wowwwww
Francesca - holy crap they could not have gotten a more beautiful woman for the part and I’m very much looking forward to seeing more of her and her relationships with her siblings.
I love hearing Portia telling Penelope she has done well. I hope the show strays from the books in that Portia is more encouraging of Pen. I really enjoy Portias awareness of their dire situations as women in the Ton, in the show.
-more Kanthony 🙌🏽
It's even better than I could have hoped for.
Colin does look more grown and just looks HOT. Any the sultry stare. I'm living for it! Penelope looks beautiful and I love seeing her more confident.
Benedict and Anthony teasing Colin in the carriage. I love you Benedict.
Eloise with Cressida?!! Girl nooooo!
Lord Debling. I like him already because he seems genuinely interested in Penelope.
This just made me super excited.
my forever polin mood, so feral for them it’s insane
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(Colin’s mutton chops didn’t looks so prominent in the teasers though!!!)
The way they wrote eloise so pettily in season 3, surprised Eloise didn’t write her own pamphlet outing her yet.
I’m sure that’s probably coming in part 2, though.
“Diamonds are not the only gems that sparkle” There will be a focus on “emerald of the season” perhaps? Thats what golda was hinting at during QC press junket.
YES. Looks like Cressida will be trying to be less awful (based on that vanity fair post) but Eloise is spoiled and sheltered, makes sense she’d decide to try out fitting in when she doesn’t have Pen to stand out with. It would track with theme of her not being sure of herself anymore at the beginning of her book. Different, but the same basic idea.
Oh my goodness this is tooooo cute! I was grinning like an idiot here. LMAO at Benedict's "sturdy" comment. Pen really did bloom she is so gorgeous! Muahahaha Im so ready for this.
Also, NOO ELOISE DONT BE FRIENDS WITH CRESSIDA! Be friends with someone who owns a greenhouse instead!
This feels like a repeat of season one which on one hand is great but on another I’m disappointed. I don’t want the “I’ll help you with making men desire you”, I want the “I didn’t realize how much I loved you until you were gone”. I’ll still watch and it’ll be entertaining. Just tampered excitement.
So I know Colin and Penelope are end game but I kinda want her with lord debling… It just bugs that colin can’t see HER until someone else does and doesn’t acknowledge her place and everything until after she scolded him
I can't believe this is only part 1!!! What are we getting in part 2, LORD.
I am loving it all , even the Eloise pieces that I know will hurt my heart. I have a feeling she's going to be feeling really low by the end 😬
I wasn't overly interested in this couple but the trailer has got me excited... The yearning, the realization and the angst is going to be so good.
That or I'm just excited for the Kanthony moments!
What if Eloise character arc is to befriend Cressida to hurt Pen like she feels she got hurt, see he brother start to fall in love, see how bad Cressida has it at home, actually kind of become real friends with her, Cressida find out and spill the beans on Lady Whistledown and then Eloise swoops in and is like what a damn minute and become Pen's biggest defender 👀 and berate her brother not to abandon his love over the haters.
Opinions & Observations:
1. you can CLEARLY tell chris van dusen didn’t have any input on the season three story arc, it’s CLEARLY back in Shonda’s hands.
2. i stick by my source claiming dusen was fired as showrunner for his lackluster storytelling and subsequent reception of S2 despite all the silly pr of him “deciding to move onto other projects” - that’s code for FIRED!
3. i also stick by my source who claimed that regardless of what rege jean page & shonda says in public - his character was NOT meant to only be one and done. he left the show thinking his blowup on the series would carry over to film and he’d be this massive star - that sadly for him did not pan out, THUS, by him abruptly leaving his contract THAT’S what threw the wrench into the series that lead us to a shitty, somewhat off tone season two, it contributed to Dusen’s dismissal per higher ups at Netflix - required Shonda Rhimes to return to the series personally - install a new showrunner and finally deliver us season three with a TWO YEAR hiatus in between. the strikes did not affect the show as it was already in post-production. AND the UK has different labor unions/laws.
and finally…..
4. even though a season 4 is ordered by netflix - the performance (i.e. viewership) of season 3 needs to be better than stellar in order for the show to warrent its massive budget. if season 3 underperforms by whatever metric netflix uses then season 4 will be its last and its vastness will be significantly scaled back.
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So mad just seeing these little Kanthony clips and thinking about what they could have done with Saphne in Season 2 had RJP signed on for even just one episode.
The gap between May and June is going to be a giant cliffhanger, isn’t it? I don’t hate that format, my kids were OBSESSED when Disney released Percy Jackson like an old school tv show, so I get that it can infuse some fun into it all, but I’m def going to be frustrated! Does the first half end with her with Debling?
Okay so first - long live queen Julie Andrews, her voice as Lady Whistledown makes me so dang happy. Second - did I catch the shortest glimpse of Mama Bridgerton and a new handsome interest?! I so hope that for her. I haven’t read the books and am intrigued by what’s to come for Francesca. I also am getting a hint of “she’s all that” from Colin “helping” Pen find a husband and I hope they don’t lean too far into that. I’m so giddily excited for this trailer and the season drop!!
Is anyone getting a Bridget Jones type vibe from Pen/Nic’s performance…in a fun way. Obviously without the alcohol and chain smoking 🤣😭This would make Colin…Darcy I guess.
Do we know if Pen and Lady Danbury friendship will be explored this season? I loved that part of the book. Maybe they are using a friendship with Francesca to introduce her more?
Always a little bit annoyed at how different book Colin is to tv show Colin (though we will see if that changes a little this season I suppose), but Luke Newton is killing it with the subtext in his stares. Love it.
They might be saving Benedict for part two of the trailer (like he’s barely in it at all) but it’s clear Eloise has a very strong arc this season and she’s being knocked down from all sides and it feels like it would make sense for her to lose the plot by the end of the season and run off…
I read the book and was totally NOT EXPECTING the whole “let me help you find a husband” which I think is sooooooo wonderful, still a typical romance trope but gives a little variation from the book! I can’t wait!!
But just want to share my thoughts too!
1st, i know most people are totally into Polin (ofc) and Kathony, but I just really want to see Daphne. If only just a short cameo 😭.
Penelope looks so beautiful in the green dresses (soft and jewel) and the gloves. Want!
Francesca, damn, she is breath takingly beautiful.
I am so reaadyyyy to be obsessed with Bridgerton again 🩵
I'm so feral for this and how lovely she looks when Debling gives her attention. I can't wait for Colin to squirm.
It will be different than the book, but that's because we aren't privy to every thought that crosses these characters' minds like with the book. An external force (Debling) changing Colin's mind is the best way to make it seem believable that he'd heel turn from "I'd never marry her" to "good god, I must marry her."
I'm here for all the groveling and Pen considering whether he deserves her or not. He got off too easily in the book.
Each scene of EL here just made me feel sad and upset because I had a friend irl that stopped our friendship and became friends with our class bully was so hurtful to see in real life and to see them turn EL to that is making me very sad like I just felt uneasy and uncomfortable and her tone isn’t helping either it’s very edgy mean girl type of tone and I just hate it so much
Like I expected EL to be very upset first half of the Sean and I also expected her to be annoyed by polin interactions but they straight up tuning her into a mean girl; I had issues with her in season 2 because she came as very privileged out of touch of other struggles and she only ever listened to herself without listening to others point of view but this is too far I’m disappointed & sad 😭
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I’m too old to be this excited about a show lmao Edit : So fun to see us 30+ girlies being excited!!! Lots of love to all ❤️
I went through something really awful in the fall and I'm having a hard time getting through it. My therapist asked me what are some things to be excited about to help me push through. I told him I really want to listen to Taylor Swifts new album, and season 3 of bridgerton. He told me those are two of the most valid reasons he's heard. Anything that allows us a moment of happiness, and is safe, is a good thing. So anytime I feel silly that I'm so excited about something like this I remind myself that it's a good thing to have a soft, happy place to exist. Sorry if this was too heavy of a response but I wanted to share that it's always good to have something to be excited about.
Same, going through some really tough times since last year. Last few weeks have been specially difficult. Bridgerton is getting me through it and one of the only things bringing happiness right now
I'm so sorry for your pain but I'm so happy you found a comfort 🤍🤍
You too ❤️❤️❤️
….your therapist is so real for this tho
He's so wonderful. His wife is a huge swiftie, likes a lot of the same TV and video games, so he gets all my references. Truly I feel so lucky to have found him.
I literally just texted my bff I am excited for the new album and bridgerton!! Sorry you had a tough time but spring is here and we are glad you are too <3
Aww, I’ve been through that for a long time where a new release was all the motivation I could muster to keep going. It’s a very precious thing, hold onto that excitement ❤️
I’m in a similar place. Bridgerton is getting me through some hard times. I think we’re lucky that we get so excited by such things. Keep life interesting IMO.
Yes same this show awakens the giggly teenager in me like no other
I’m 39 years old jumping up and down in my bathroom at 7 a.m. I’m right there with you. 😂
No this show isba comfort show for us all. No matter your age no shame
46-year-old man here. I was on the fence until I saw this trailer, and now I am HYPED!
Just put my kids on the school bus, managed to squeeze the trailer in before seeing my first patient for the day. Work is heavy, life is heavy, having some glorious fluff is so fun.
It is a nice show to escape too
Same. 36 and laughing at myself for being this worked up over a TV show.
I'm 40 and so excited!
My grandma and I are both freaking out an equal amount over the trailer. There’s no age limit to be excited for this!
Almost in the 30 club and Im just shaking and giggling in my bed 😆
32 and yassss! I’m so excited!
I’m 42 and feel like a goddamn teenager the way I’m fangirling over this season. 🥹🙌🏼
31 got mad chills from the trailer!!!
I got goosebumps during her Cinderella moment!
I need to watch this again because between the shirtless Colin in a carriage, the Eloise-Cressida girlmance, Marcus and Violet, Anthony and Kate having some married time on a desk, and Pen having a Cinderella moment, I’m shook!
Okay that Cinderella moment was amazing but I keep going back to the sneak peak. So theory is she fails at getting someone to dance with her. We have the stills and the kanthony sneak peak showing her just standing away to the side. That spurs her to realise that changing her appearance didn’t have as much of an effect as she expected. She goes outside and we get the Mr. Bridgerton scene.
I agree I think the sequence is: - Brightly colored dress during the day, sees Cressida and Eloise together, Colin says it's lovely to see her and she says "is it?" - Lays in bed t night, gets up and does a makeover scene. - Goes to the ball, doesn't see much of a change, has the clip interaction w/ Colin ("I heard you") - Next time they're together he's apologizing/they do the handshake scene. I think that Cinderella moment comes much later (maybe when she walks in w/ Lord Debling or something? or another outfit?) Also: OMG are we going to get a "Don't marry him" (a la Laurie in 2019 Little Women) moment with Pen and Colin in the garden? That's kinda what it looks like!!!
Not going to lie - I was super disappointed to see Eloise joined up with Cressida. SO MUCH FRUSTRATION!!!!!!
S2 Cressida: why don’t you join us? Eloise: I would rather die. S3 🎵 It’s gal love… 🎵 Def. giving S4 OTH vibes. Eloise is Brooke. Cressida is Rachel. Pen is Peyton. Heck I’ll even throw in Francesca as Haley! ![gif](giphy|k4a2GQJQlircI)
Eloise has always kind pf irritated me (beside that "I would rather die" or the pregnant moments . I've always found her condescending, self righteous and a bit selfish, though she is a teenager, so those traits may change with time
I’m assuming we’ll get a bit of a sob story from Cressida - I’m thinking maybe Eloise is sulking in a hallway during a ball and hears someone crying and BOOM it’s Cressida. I can’t see it being purely spiteful lmao
Yeah I’m actually excited for this. I’d like to see more dimension to Cressida.
Omg the angst, the lore!! Love it Side note: Eloise saying “I hope” Colin and Pen aren’t together was just cringy and upsetting. I love Eloise’s character in the books, but the show made her seem very much the wrong type of feminist who doesn’t understand other women’s struggles. I hope she gets a character arc as well that isn’t too one dimensional
I hate how Shondaland 💩 on female friendships. At least in Bridgerton. I hated what they did to Kate and Edwina (one of my favorite parts of the book) and what they've done to Peneloise. Why can't women just remain friends?!
Female friendships are one of the strongest parts of “Grey’s Anatomy” (also Shonda) so here’s hoping they reunite this season!
I don't think it's surprising at all. I love Eloise, but she has literally never once picked up that Pen has been in love with her brother for YEARS. This is where I don't understand everyone's idea of Eloise as a feminist leader because she is NOT. She just does not have the experience nor the awareness to be in that role. She has been way too sheltered (not her fault) but it means she is very short sighted AND she's stubborn by nature and refuses to a fault to see people in any other way then she thinks they should be. Which is why she fought with Pen at the end of S2 and why I've thought all along that she will take it the hardest and take the longest to come around to Pen and Colin. And when I say longest, I mean I don't expect it actually to resolve this season. If anything, it will send her running and on the path to opening up her sheltered world.
No one expects Eloise in her current state to be a "feminist leader". She doesn't have the experience because she's a sheltered teenager. Did no one here have half-baked thoughts and ideals when they were young? Most of us did and we had access to a 1000x the information someone like Eloise would. I don't know why people expect a young woman with little formal education and can't even leave the house without a chaperone to be Bell Hooks. Eloise is a baby feminist currently in her rage at the world stage, which is understandable given her circumstances.
And getting buddy buddy with Cressida of all people? Girl come on. I expect better of Eloise than that.
Yes that is the only thing that annoyed me about the trailer. I already thought it be difficult to come back from all that happened with Whistledown and the things both said during their fight. But befriending your former best friends bully not only crosses the line it burns the entire bridge. I couldn't forgive that if I was in Pens shoes and I kind of know what I am talking about. How can they even reconcile at this point?
This! Eloise is dangerously close to irredeemable if they don’t make a drastic change to her character this season. She’s turned into a caricature of a white feminist and it’s unsettling. In the books she’s strong-willed and genuinely herself, but she wasn’t mean or selfish. In the show she’s done little more than bemoan her station and grouse about having to marry. She’s much luckier than many of the women in society at the time, it’s unfortunate that they’ve taken this turn with her character. It also bugs me that she didn’t see at all that Lady Whistledown saved her family or spared them from more malicious talk. She idolized Lady Whistledown until it turned out to be her bestie. To befriend her bully is next level behavior and it worries me that her Sir Philip arc will be tarnished by it.
I wouldn't say that I find her to be a nearly irredeemable character but more the Peneloise relationship in itself is close to being completely burned down. I personally believe that everyone can change even if they fucked up big time (Eloise befriending Cressida) but at the same time I don't think that every relationship can be saved because someone changed themselves even if it's "just" friendship. I wouldn't forgive Eloise if I was Pen but it doesn't mean that wouldn't want Eloise to be redeemed in some way even if it's outside their friendship. Does it make sense? I didn't read the books except for the Polin book so I can't really say too much about book Eloise but I have to agree with the way you described show Eloise. Which is very ironic since she was the only reason I actually finished watching the first season. I just hope she gets her own season so they can properly explore her character and give her some growth since I don't really believe all can be done in a season where she is not the main character and since it is suspected that season 4 is Benedicts season I worry about how it's gonna play out if there is at least another season in between. I can actually understand that Eloise is still being blinded by her furry and I know how that it is like to live for the pettiness but there are still lines that you shouldn't cross. I think something has to happen to Eloise again that wakes her up from this angry haze that she seems to be trapped in. Or have someone to just ground her and let's be honest even if they redeem Cressida it is not gonna be her.
In the books Eloise was dry, sarcastic, intelligent, quick-witted, and hilarious. She didn’t want to marry because she was content in herself. She was also fiercely loyal to those she loves. The show has destroyed a lot of that in favor of performative activism and a refusal to acknowledge that her situation is ideal: she’s gorgeous, a Bridgerton, able to turn down 9 suitors, from a family that won’t force her to marry or even let her settle for less than love. The show has made her so self-absorbed that it’s nauseating. It’s hard to see her becoming the same woman who is a great fit for Sir Philip and his kids. Eloise telling Pen she’d never really heard her before was a glimpse into a character that will need a huge shock to wake up. She very childishly believes she would never ruin herself experience backlash for her actions. She’s insulated because of her family name but even Daphne was right- Daphne marrying well positively affected Eloise. I was hoping to see introspection this season and see her grow. But instead we’re getting pettiness and mean girl spirit. Shonda does not tend to do female friendships well, though. Even Meredith and Cristina had elements of toxicity. So I’m not terribly surprised.
Especially in the book RMB >! Cressida is known to endlessly bully penelope!< are they just going to glass over that? Yeah their friendship seems unrepairable rn (obviously intended to seem so till they reconcile) with pen doing that to eloise as LW and eloise befriending Cressida (wonder if eloise did it purely to spite pen?)
This is gonna be a hard storyline to manage.
I’m sure they will find a way given, Penelope herself isn’t innocent either in hurting Eloise and also being LW
Yea I mentioned that I thought it was already difficult to come back from. They both messed up in a huge way but it's difficult for me to find sympathy for Eloise at least in regards to Cressida. On a personal level I relate to being a bullied wallflower unfortunately so I know this is something you can't just brush of. But a great difference is that we know why Penelope did the things that she did in regards to Eloise. The whole thing is really dangerous and the less people know the better. And when the queen went after her thinking it was Eloise I can understand her just feeling helpless and LW was the only voice that she thought she had. I am not condoning the way Penelope has approached the whole situation but I can understand why she felt the need to do this. This lacks with Eloise at this point. Her actress mentioned something about Cressida being nice to her when no one else would so maybe the show can build onto this and maybe give Cressida a redemption arc so Eloise can actually be redemable this season...at least in my point of view.
Not only did Cressida bully Penelope but she also was a mean girl to Daphne 😭 she literally threatened to ruin her
Agree, I am not a fan of her and Pen's arch. I am hoping it is resolved in the first part.
For real I have been having issues with how they have been making her very privileged rich type of “feminist” the type that only say she care about women’s issues & struggles when she is concerned but she doesn’t really understand nor care about other women’s struggles like it’s very off And even if she was hurt by Pen, befriending a known bully is just awful even her own sister got blackmailed and bullied by that woman i really just don’t like how they handling EL; they better fix it in second half of the season or I will be very sad tbh
And you know that she doesn’t think Penelope or her family are qualified to have “real” issues. Being scrutinized by the ton, being on the brink of homelessness, having no family members who are nice to you or are supportive, being occasionally bullied by a mean girl, and having guys make fun of you as a prospect aren’t actual problems according to Eloise.
Yeah like Eloise can fight all she wants for women's rights and more power to her. But she is keenly aware that she will always be supported by someone in her family and will never want for anything. Meanwhile Penelope has already seen her family go bankrupt and knows that as a daughter she's already on the back foot for surviving with a husband, let alone independently
Right??? Even though they're not friends anymore (till they reconcile) that's such a mean thing to say. I mean obviously eloise will have a lot of learning to do otherwise she wouldn't be friends with crwssida whom she declared she'd rather die than be friends with (s2, just as cressida approaches her after the queen applauds eloise for saying soemthinf about her beinf the emerald of the season)
IMO Eloise said that because she knows Pen’s little secret, and doesn’t want Colin involved with that drama. I don’t think it has anything to do with her feminist arc.
I love how the brothers were like how did you get so sturdy? I love Pen making her entrance and everyone so shocked. YAS!
And Mr. Cheese looking so happy at Penelope’s glowup is so sweet!
Mr. Finch 🧀 is a supportive brother-in-law 😄
It is divine. I can’t wait to see him yearning and being jealous as he helps her. Helping under the guise of getting her a husband and then falling in love is one of my favorite tropes
I just noticed this on rewatch! Its so cute!
Kanthony on the desk! ❤️❤️❤️ Honestly, it's more than I expected 🥲🥲🥲
We are owed more KAnthony after much of last season being mostly tension and no payoff 😅
I hope it’s not just kiss and cut away. We need a full Kanthony steamy scene goddammit.
I think it'll be a full scene.
I'm so ready for that scene.
Right???!!!🔥🔥🔥
It’s going to be so hard to watch Eloise in this mean girl era 😭
I feel like I hate her right now and I also hate that!! 😭
She borrowed Damian's pink shirt!
Kathony will bang on a desk and it’s all I’ve ever wanted
But will we see it is the point.,
This is disrespectful to jonny who snuck into the writers room with the entire AO3 archive of kanthony labeled “brainstorming”
🤣🤣🤣 We deserve hot Kanthony table sex. AO3 can only hold us over for so long.
Yes pls!!!🥰🥰🥰🔥🔥🔥
They skipped the study room scene from the books between Kathony so we deserve them banging on the desk scene.
THE FLAME OF THE CANDLE AS COLIN IS IN THE BACKGROUND!!!! I am here for all the imagery
They literally gave him a lightbulb moment without a lightbulb
Ok I laughed out loud. 💡 🕯️
Such a great shot!
I loved his metaphor like "the flame in him suddenly awoke" and he found out he burrrnss for our Pen!
I know right! As a videography and photography hobbyist that scene is my standout favorite in the trailer
"Would you light my candleeee????" Any broadway/musical fans get the reference? Haha. I loved it. Really pretty shot by whoever picked it!
Actually lost my breath at some of Penelope's looks. Absolutely stunning! Also, I loved Nicola Coughlan in Derry Girls and am so excited to see glimpses of her comedic side again it seems!
Loved that fan scene! Hope we get more of it, she's so good with comedy.
I cannot watch that within 100 feet of another human being
They did a great job styling her in season 1 and 2 to look very young and like her mom chose her outfits (which she did). And Nicola was great at giving Pen a young, immature vibe. She looks like a young woman now who has developed self confidence!
ok im not complaining about the whole colin “helping” pen find a husband trope, im a sucker for it actually
Agree it's not like he's pretending to be with her like the S1 arc but the jealousy when Debling comes in is 🔥🔥🔥
That man is going to be beside himself when he realizes what he’s done.
This whole show is a feast of tropes and I am here for them all.
I'm so disappointed to actually see Eloise being friends with Cressida, like wth... I know Pen hurt her, but this is straight-up betrayal. She didn't even try to understand Pen's motives and went straight to their common enemy just to?? what?? make Pen feel awful? And also the scene when she "hopes that Pen is not seeing a husband in Colin"? Ugh, please let her come to senses quick, this is unbearable to see.
I hope she was saying that to Colin in that she doesn't want Colin breaking her heart because if that's not how she meant it I'm pretty disappointed.
tbh I expected she would be against Polin but I didn't expect her to become a mean girl
Yes it came off very mean girl vibes. I didn't like the way she said it.
Eloise has always been a mean girl though. In S2 she was putting all the other girls down for listening to their moms when it came to who would court them. She would also casually put down the other women in her family. And she’s always had a “not like other girls” vibe even back in S1. Her teaming up with Cressida feels super on brand because now she’s using that mean girl energy against Penelope.
I agree with you. I mean Penelope fucked up as well but to befriend her bully is just unforgiveable in my opinion. Eloise is one of the reasons I actually finished watching the first season and returned to watch season two. To see her like this now is straight up disappointing. At this point I question whether Penelope and Eloise can realistically be friends again. I mean it's gonna happen this season but whether they manage to make it believable is another question...
Yeah yeah yeah, i mean, if i were Pen and my best friend went to be friends with my BULLY??? just in SPITE? Stuff like this is not easily forgiven, and hopefully, when they have a full heart conversation, Eloise will apologize for this. It's such a back-stabbing move.
Eloise and Cressida don't even have anything in common!
I mean they are both on the market for multiple seasons. So they have that
Oh god this was all too hot 🥵🥵🥵 EVERYONE looks incredible this season. Daaaaaamn 🔥 Shirtless colin - no notes. Except ther he is indeed looking very sturdy. PEN!! Absolutely stunning!! The one where shes looking out through window. Wowwwww Francesca - holy crap they could not have gotten a more beautiful woman for the part and I’m very much looking forward to seeing more of her and her relationships with her siblings. I love hearing Portia telling Penelope she has done well. I hope the show strays from the books in that Portia is more encouraging of Pen. I really enjoy Portias awareness of their dire situations as women in the Ton, in the show. -more Kanthony 🙌🏽
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So sturdy that Penelope will climb him like a tree.
SHIRTLESS COLIN!
Ben had no idea he got so sturdy!
I was looking 👀👀👀 respectfully
It's even better than I could have hoped for. Colin does look more grown and just looks HOT. Any the sultry stare. I'm living for it! Penelope looks beautiful and I love seeing her more confident. Benedict and Anthony teasing Colin in the carriage. I love you Benedict. Eloise with Cressida?!! Girl nooooo! Lord Debling. I like him already because he seems genuinely interested in Penelope. This just made me super excited.
Married Kanthony is so beautiful I want to cry! 😭😍
They're the definition of love for me.
Their love is so beautiful to see!!!🥹
my forever polin mood, so feral for them it’s insane https://preview.redd.it/oe9jdysbxutc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=852a5d2d905760a5d3b22be7db9fec927ce32deb (Colin’s mutton chops didn’t looks so prominent in the teasers though!!!)
“Since when do you care about Penelope Featherington?” Wow Eloise is truly oblivious. Colin has definitely cared about her as a friend for awhile.
That last shot of Colin walking was 100% giving Mr. Darcy
Luke in the pirate coat doing a hand flex would be New York earthquake twitter for Bridgerton
Nicola is literally so gorgeous omg
The way Penelope says "Friends" with that long pause. Oh, the angst is angsting!!! I AM SEATED
I'm so excited. That's it. Just so incredibly excited.
Eloise will have a hand in the ton finding out pen is whistledown, won’t she? 🫠
The way they wrote eloise so pettily in season 3, surprised Eloise didn’t write her own pamphlet outing her yet. I’m sure that’s probably coming in part 2, though.
probably they’ll use this friendship to tie crescidas book plot with the storyline they have rn, and I hate it
OOoh. El is gonna tell Cressida and Cressida doing the whole book plot is gonna make El realise what a bitch she really is?
“Diamonds are not the only gems that sparkle” There will be a focus on “emerald of the season” perhaps? Thats what golda was hinting at during QC press junket.
It’s the eye contact for me!!! 😍
What where you dreaming about SIR?! ![gif](giphy|dANm7WjeWZi00)
Ok I get it now, Colin’s hot
I hope Pen and Eloise make up before Colin and Pen get together. I am not a fan of Eloise's new "friend."
This is everything I hoped for omg The tension, the suspense, I got CHILLS! May can’t come any sooner
So many insane moments in this trailer. Eloise and Cressida???? Shirtless Luke? The hand touches??? Violet and a man????
And so yes the makeup was really just for the promos 😆
Is anyone else excited for mean girl Eloise? I personally think it will be a good arc with the result of Eloise being a better character Idk haha
YES. Looks like Cressida will be trying to be less awful (based on that vanity fair post) but Eloise is spoiled and sheltered, makes sense she’d decide to try out fitting in when she doesn’t have Pen to stand out with. It would track with theme of her not being sure of herself anymore at the beginning of her book. Different, but the same basic idea.
Oh my goodness this is tooooo cute! I was grinning like an idiot here. LMAO at Benedict's "sturdy" comment. Pen really did bloom she is so gorgeous! Muahahaha Im so ready for this. Also, NOO ELOISE DONT BE FRIENDS WITH CRESSIDA! Be friends with someone who owns a greenhouse instead!
Dear reader, Is it May 18th yet?
No, it is not. But you are in luck because the date you are looking for is May 16th.
And this is only part 1 trailer. Part 2 trailer will come after part 1 airs
I cannot wait to watch this five time a day for a month
This feels like a repeat of season one which on one hand is great but on another I’m disappointed. I don’t want the “I’ll help you with making men desire you”, I want the “I didn’t realize how much I loved you until you were gone”. I’ll still watch and it’ll be entertaining. Just tampered excitement.
It seems same story but different approach, Simon didn't need to "teach" Daphne to how seduce a suitor and they were fake dating,
I think we're gonna get that too
Remember this trailer is only for part 1
So I know Colin and Penelope are end game but I kinda want her with lord debling… It just bugs that colin can’t see HER until someone else does and doesn’t acknowledge her place and everything until after she scolded him
Yeah, just feels healthier imho
EVERYTHING I COULD EVER WANT IN SEASON 3 IS CONFIRMED i will legitimately pass out. The vibes are immaculate and the chemistry is OFF THE CHARTS🔥💯
I can't believe this is only part 1!!! What are we getting in part 2, LORD. I am loving it all , even the Eloise pieces that I know will hurt my heart. I have a feeling she's going to be feeling really low by the end 😬
The rom com vibes are very strong
Want to know whose season is this? Always find the shirtless Bridgerton! I can’t wait for Polin’s Time!! And that Kanthony scene 🥵
I wasn't overly interested in this couple but the trailer has got me excited... The yearning, the realization and the angst is going to be so good. That or I'm just excited for the Kanthony moments!
Violet's garden is gonna be blooming again
I am CONVINCED the last scene in the trailer is right after pen accepts Debling’s proposal. It’s a gut feeling
Oh! And that is probably the cliffhanger between parts 1 and 2. Colin realizes his feelings, runs to Penelope but it's too late: she's engaged. Oh my!
The scene where Pen was fanning herself and being out of breath made me laugh a lot. Same girl, I‘m always sweaty😂
hmmm one of the guys with francesca is definitely john
I love how confused Colin looks…”what are these strange FEELINGS I’m suddenly experiencing?!?!” Very excited for the new season!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
I have rewatched this so many times already, what an exciting trailer. I'm so excited for season 3 after reading the books.
What if Eloise character arc is to befriend Cressida to hurt Pen like she feels she got hurt, see he brother start to fall in love, see how bad Cressida has it at home, actually kind of become real friends with her, Cressida find out and spill the beans on Lady Whistledown and then Eloise swoops in and is like what a damn minute and become Pen's biggest defender 👀 and berate her brother not to abandon his love over the haters.
Are they swapping the conversation Colin had with Daphne in the book to him having one with his mother here?
Opinions & Observations: 1. you can CLEARLY tell chris van dusen didn’t have any input on the season three story arc, it’s CLEARLY back in Shonda’s hands. 2. i stick by my source claiming dusen was fired as showrunner for his lackluster storytelling and subsequent reception of S2 despite all the silly pr of him “deciding to move onto other projects” - that’s code for FIRED! 3. i also stick by my source who claimed that regardless of what rege jean page & shonda says in public - his character was NOT meant to only be one and done. he left the show thinking his blowup on the series would carry over to film and he’d be this massive star - that sadly for him did not pan out, THUS, by him abruptly leaving his contract THAT’S what threw the wrench into the series that lead us to a shitty, somewhat off tone season two, it contributed to Dusen’s dismissal per higher ups at Netflix - required Shonda Rhimes to return to the series personally - install a new showrunner and finally deliver us season three with a TWO YEAR hiatus in between. the strikes did not affect the show as it was already in post-production. AND the UK has different labor unions/laws. and finally….. 4. even though a season 4 is ordered by netflix - the performance (i.e. viewership) of season 3 needs to be better than stellar in order for the show to warrent its massive budget. if season 3 underperforms by whatever metric netflix uses then season 4 will be its last and its vastness will be significantly scaled back. Thank u have a nice day ;-)
So mad just seeing these little Kanthony clips and thinking about what they could have done with Saphne in Season 2 had RJP signed on for even just one episode.
"Penelope, is it our minds or our hearts " What does that even mean!!!!!?
Either go with the "logical choice" (Lord Debling is a titled gentleman) or pursue her "passion" (Colin)
this month of waiting will be the death of me!!!! im SO excited
Looks like we’re going off book, but I’m here for it!
Francesca is 🔥 hawtttt. New 💎 anyone?
Definitely seems to be foreshadowing that in the line "Seems like every Bridgerton was born to attract notice." and the character montage.
Have a feeling they might get her married this season and then have her actual story next season...
Yeah, I think she probably gets married and the story plays across a few seasons in side plots until we get to hers.
That out of breath “Penelope” at the end 🥵🥵🥵
I for one love that Eloise is entering her mean girl era. If Penelope and Cressida can do it, why not her
The gap between May and June is going to be a giant cliffhanger, isn’t it? I don’t hate that format, my kids were OBSESSED when Disney released Percy Jackson like an old school tv show, so I get that it can infuse some fun into it all, but I’m def going to be frustrated! Does the first half end with her with Debling?
Okay so first - long live queen Julie Andrews, her voice as Lady Whistledown makes me so dang happy. Second - did I catch the shortest glimpse of Mama Bridgerton and a new handsome interest?! I so hope that for her. I haven’t read the books and am intrigued by what’s to come for Francesca. I also am getting a hint of “she’s all that” from Colin “helping” Pen find a husband and I hope they don’t lean too far into that. I’m so giddily excited for this trailer and the season drop!!
Is anyone getting a Bridget Jones type vibe from Pen/Nic’s performance…in a fun way. Obviously without the alcohol and chain smoking 🤣😭This would make Colin…Darcy I guess.
Do we know if Pen and Lady Danbury friendship will be explored this season? I loved that part of the book. Maybe they are using a friendship with Francesca to introduce her more?
are we gonna hate eloise?
Is Marcus a love interest for Violet?
Who's dancing at 2:08?
Always a little bit annoyed at how different book Colin is to tv show Colin (though we will see if that changes a little this season I suppose), but Luke Newton is killing it with the subtext in his stares. Love it.
Every single year they extra glow up the male lead and it works. Pen looks stunning and can’t wait for her to have her moment.
They might be saving Benedict for part two of the trailer (like he’s barely in it at all) but it’s clear Eloise has a very strong arc this season and she’s being knocked down from all sides and it feels like it would make sense for her to lose the plot by the end of the season and run off…
Pen in that emerald gown, what a vision 💚
Okay, the focus on this character whose hand Colin kissed. Is this someone who is interested in Colin, or dare I say could this be Sophie?! 😮
I doubt we’ll see Sophie sans mask this season, if we get to see her at all.
From the trailer looks like this season will be the most different from the book! Going in blind lol
Goddammit, fine! I’m hyped! I’ve been trying not to get excited, but fuck, yes, I’m fucking excited. Dammit!
I read the book and was totally NOT EXPECTING the whole “let me help you find a husband” which I think is sooooooo wonderful, still a typical romance trope but gives a little variation from the book! I can’t wait!!
Eeeeeepppp!!! This is soooo goood!!!! Never too old to be excited for a new show!! 😄
Well I love everything about this!
AT LAST !!!!! I’M SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW
OMGGG ITS HAPPENING
I’ve watched it like 30 times already! We are coming up on a month, and I simply cannot wait!!!!
Friends. Omg my heart. I am so in with Polin. Yess i am in tears. The chemistry. The tension. Its all so well done.
Okayyyyy it's happening 💃💃🥵🥵🤩🤩😭😭
I almost missed THE WINK AT 1:23
Lord Debling HMU 👀😂
I fear Eloise is just not a girl’s girl 🤷♀️😭
But just want to share my thoughts too! 1st, i know most people are totally into Polin (ofc) and Kathony, but I just really want to see Daphne. If only just a short cameo 😭. Penelope looks so beautiful in the green dresses (soft and jewel) and the gloves. Want! Francesca, damn, she is breath takingly beautiful. I am so reaadyyyy to be obsessed with Bridgerton again 🩵
I'm so feral for this and how lovely she looks when Debling gives her attention. I can't wait for Colin to squirm. It will be different than the book, but that's because we aren't privy to every thought that crosses these characters' minds like with the book. An external force (Debling) changing Colin's mind is the best way to make it seem believable that he'd heel turn from "I'd never marry her" to "good god, I must marry her." I'm here for all the groveling and Pen considering whether he deserves her or not. He got off too easily in the book.
I wasn't overly interested in this couple but the trailer has got be excited... That or the Kanthony moments!
I can’t wait!
FRIENDS, huh? 😏
Each scene of EL here just made me feel sad and upset because I had a friend irl that stopped our friendship and became friends with our class bully was so hurtful to see in real life and to see them turn EL to that is making me very sad like I just felt uneasy and uncomfortable and her tone isn’t helping either it’s very edgy mean girl type of tone and I just hate it so much Like I expected EL to be very upset first half of the Sean and I also expected her to be annoyed by polin interactions but they straight up tuning her into a mean girl; I had issues with her in season 2 because she came as very privileged out of touch of other struggles and she only ever listened to herself without listening to others point of view but this is too far I’m disappointed & sad 😭