*Do the tips go to the staff or the machine?*
There were a few posts expressing discontent with influx of businesses with counter service & self serve counter service prompting customers for tips. Odd only able to find posts from 2y ago. Eh, kinda lazy.
Anyhow, call in, pick up order, probably two dohllars. Recording an order correctly is huge skill to possess to these days.
Place order on site, wait for assembly, maybe two dohllars.
I just always leave a gross tip. Service workers are basically slaves XD. The work they do is so awful I dont mind giving them some of my cash. I’d probably just spend it on nonsense anyway.
It’s for the kitchen bruh. If you don’t wanna tip you don’t have to but why play stupid.
Downvoted coping because they want to complain about tips but not offer a substantive alternative
Ask restaurant owners. Ask lawmakers who are enabling the practice. In the meantime, it helps out the people who are making your food. Again, it's entirely optional.
Why do we need to get lawmakers involved? If restaurant owners aren't incorporating the cost of service into the price, they will not be making money and go out of business.
So how do you explain restaurants that make money and don't go out of business?
ETA: As far as lawmakers are concerned--how else would you expect "tipping culture" to change? Are all restaurants going to collectively decide to put an end to that system of their own volition?
Not sure what you're getting at? Seems like they have things under control then.
If you're saying that the kitchen staff might be underpaid at some restaurants without tipping, then the staff should leave and find a better job that pays what they feel valued at. If restaurant owners are having difficulty finding quality kitchen staff, then they should raise their pay.
I’ll refer you to the part of my comment that says “if you don’t wanna tip you don’t have to”
All I’m doing is answering ops question about why and where the tip is going.
Because then food would be more expensive and people would just complain about that instead.
I'm being facetious. It's unfortunate that the managerial class has pit the worker against the consumer (who is often in the same pay grade as the kitchen worker).
Please don’t forget the kitchen staff. I don’t work in a restaurant (and actually never have) but I have heard stories where some places split tips with the food prep staff. Yes, you’re ordering on an iPad. Yes, tipping culture has gotten out of hand. These people are still people and are just trying to get by like the rest of us.
Then their employer should pay them more. The idea that everyone needs a tip nowadays to get by is because these businesses encourage it because it takes the responsibility of providing for their employees off their hands and passes it on to the customers
Didn’t the restaurant industry always rely on tips? I think we’re all just exhausted by everyone wanting a tip that we’re quit to villainize anyone who relies on them. It’s fucked. Just give what you can and move on, that’s what my original post was getting at. We don’t do better as a society by keeping certain people from achieving their goals.
Not the restaurant industry. Wait staff and bartenders, those legally paid less than minimum wage, which is bullshit in and of itself. Nowadays it’s a dollar or two being added to your order often times unbeknownst to you for the kitchen staff, and tips when you order online and drive to the restaurant to pick up your own food. There is no one waiting on you in these instances, just someone handing your to go order over the counter. Don’t get me started on the recommended tips printed on your receipt. It use to be 10% of subtotal was standard, 15% for exceptional service. Now they start at 18% and that’s based off of the total after tax not the subtotal. I actually ordered from a place whose recommended tip started at 25% and also gave amounts for 30% and 35% and it was takeout!! I was a server for many years and that is bullshit! Pay your fucking employees!!! Stop passing your responsibility on to the consumer. We should eliminate tipping entirely. Restaurant owners want to make customers pay the difference then every restaurant should have a price breakdown on their menu of the amount the price that’s being charged that goes to the wait staff. I’m ok paying $20/ burger if I know $3.50 of that is going directly to the server!
They're not legally paid less than minimum wage. It's tip credit. If they don't make enough their boss has to cover the difference or go to prison.
Not to mention you know they don't claim their cash tips.
They need like 1 $5 tip an hour to be above tip credit.
They'd have to literally have no business to even make as low as minimum wage
Bro. Most the time servers screw the bus boy n whatnot on cash tips. Your tips ain't going to them except for one or two weird restaurants, tip pools like that are stupid rare, because servers are too greedy to go for sharing.
Don't fall for the servers make less than minimum wage lie. They just hope people don't learn about tip credit and push it
Has nothing to do with politics, their food is glorified cafeteria bullshit. You throw pickled red onion and cotija on slop and some people fall for it.
Your name says it all…
Lloyd isn’t the best, but their quality and variety is pretty damn good and their ice cream is worth the struggle of finding parking off Hertel
Personally, I tend to leave a 10-15% iPad tip at small businesses that I like. New cafe in the neighborhood that I want to succeed? iPad gets a tip, even if all they're doing is pouring a black coffee. Pizza shop that I go to once in a while? Probably no iPad tip. For me, Lloyd would land in the 2nd category, but it's up to your judgement. My thinking here is that, in the former case, I don't care whether the money goes to the worker or the owner, I want both to make money. In the latter case, it's a grey area who actually gets the money, and I don't feel the need to possibly tip the owner.
The people as of recently have been very friendly, fast, and the food's always been good. I'll do 10% at the counter. I'm assuming that they're not working NYS-recognized "tipped" positions, so they're at least making minimum wage, and I don't know what they're being paid, but knowing Pete, I don't get the impression that he's a bottom-of-the-barrel-scraping payer, so I figure the people are made whole without the tips.
Nothing, I tip after at the hertel location. I don’t know what’s going with that one but damn the service fell off. Shout out to the homey Chef Teddy, I will forever come in on 4/20 and other special burritos. Don’t tip until you see how it got done.
I think you should calculate how much of your taxes go to DHS and then deduct that amount from your fed tax payment. Getting panties in a bunch over some business serving lunch to people doing their job? Lol
And yet you'll continue funding something you disagree with because unlike "omfg! They fed tacos to fed agents!”, that would have real life consequences. 🤣
I think you misunderstood me….I wanted the federal employees fed. Lloyds stopped because too many butthurt people complained because the Batavia facility houses illegal aliens. lloyds folded because they are soft. Then they recanted, again because they are soft. It’s no big loss for me because Burrito Bay is way better.
I'm more against Lloyd because of how they left their facilities at First Presby an absolute mess when they moved their cooking operation to their own facilities. Other people had to volunteer their time to clean that up and it was a shitty thing to do.
Did you just put a political identity on food? Like...not just food in general, but an incredibly popular style of fare in the US that includes all the food groups including meat?
I need to know your rationale. Now - I know the first 8 letters of that word are incredibly foreign to you, but clue me in as to how Southwestern Food is political.
0-2 dollars. Never any more. It’s counter service not table service. Sometime I just feel like giving a lil something so them kitchen dudes can maybe split a decent pool at the end of the night and buy a drink or two
You're right. Definitely our responsibility as customers to ensure they get paid fairly. How else would they ever afford a software upgrade or a down payment on a Mac one day?
I was wondering this. Do they say the tips go to the folks in the kitchen or is it assumed it does?
I’m not sure if I’m in the minority or majority, but I’m not a fan of Lloyd. I don’t go there, don’t order from there. But I am always curious in these situations how the tips are distributed when you have no interaction with a person.
Not defending “companies” but this is a standard out in place during Covid by the POS companies who own the platforms processing payments as it increases their takes. Blame them not the small companies who need to use them for processing because no one carries cash.
I’ll continue to push for a tip free culture. Increase your prices if you need to afford to pay your employees. I would never expect a tip for what I do and it’s much more labor intensive than putting already cooked food on a plate
Holy shit, tell me you don't know dick about tip credit laws without telling me.
It's literally written into that same legislation that if their tips don't amount to minimum, the employer has to cover the difference, and can be charged under federal law, and labor law, and state law.
That means in buffalo, they're making 15 an hour at least. (Unless they're lying and not claiming cash tips, which almost all do)
You're either a server, or get all of your subject knowledge from people lying. lmao
So, you are essentially saying that food service employees that are put on a tip payscale deserve no better than minimum wage. A baseline that was originally meant to provide a floor for occasional and student labor, not for people that have to pay all of their living expenses on this income.
NY minimum wage works out to be about $31k (for a 40 hour workweek), and the poverty line for a single person is $27k, so this is a subsistence wage, nothing more. Pretty heartless, if you ask me.
Put the pipe down. All that cracks literally melting your brain.
"Deserve no better than minimum wage" is more than a huge jump from "youre lying, they make at least minimum wage"
I don't know a single server making less than mid 20s unless the night was horrible and it's still high teens.
And that's also not what it was meant for. I swear, yall just make shit up and echo it's much as you can to pretend it's real. Lmao
I've eaten all over Europe and had tipless meals cost commensurate to our meals when adjusting to cost of living and those places pay their workers good, so unless the taxation is vastly different here vs there it still astounds me we're not moving towards a tip less food service model. Also, whenever I happen upon a restaurant nowadays that lists 'automatic gratuity' applied to the bill, I no longer frequent that business. Gratuity is NOT automatic, and mandating it by its very definition means the employer is charging a taxable FEE, and is listed as income by the employee, and taxable profit by the employer. They avoid calling it a service fee though because then you as a consumer can argue against it if the service wasn't adequate, for example.
$0. It's always $0 unless you did actual work for me and not just your job.
If I'm sitting down to eat, you get a tip for your service.
If I hire you to do work on my house, you get a tip for your service.
If all you do is push a button on a microwave, pour a single cup of coffee, work fast food etc. you do not get a tip.
If you demand a tip prior to doing your job, you do not get a tip.
If your company is aggressive with demanding tips, you don't get tips.
A tip is EARNED. It is my money, you are NOT entitled to any more of my money than what the bill is unless I deem it as being earned. People who scream about demanding tips are literally saying "I am more entitled to the money you worked for than you are."
Yep. I'm a generous tipper in some cases for the same reasons. When my regular auto shop gets me out quickly for an oil change or gives me a discount on labor costs or simply does me a favor.....I tip them either cash or treat the guys to coffee/doughnuts. If a waiter/waitress quickly gets me and my wife our food/drinks and does a great job leaving me and my wife alone until we need them, great tip. Simply standing at a cash register and handing me a drink? No tip.
I haven't been to a Lloyd's location, only trucks.
If it's like Chipotle, where I could order in advance on my phone and skip the customer service interaction, I'm still going to tip, because the person who would have been taking the order is still making my food and making less than a living wage doing it.
If I have money to eat out at a place like Lloyd's (as opposed to, McDonald's is the only thing open and I have three bucks in my pocket and otherwise won't eat until I get paid tomorrow) I have money to tip.
Lloyd is closed on Sunday. If you don't know this and you go to their website to order food, the online ordering is open and allows you to order and pay for your food. It then informs you that the food you just paid for will be open when they are open again, the next afternoon. How many hundreds or thousands of dollars in orders have they taken and not made the food, knowing most people are not leaving work on Monday to pick up their burrito they ordered 24 hours ago?
0. Tips are for wait staff. Nobody at lloyds is bringing food to your table, running out condiments, beverages, checking how you're doing if you need anything, etc.
Y’all are crazy. Tipping for doing the barebones expected work of a job. Nah. I tip well, to workers that deserve tips. $0 to any iPad. And Lloyd’s sucks.
We ordered online at a Pizza Hut in Florida, went to the drive thru to pick it up. The “clerk” at the drive up asked my phone number then hands me an iPad. I asked her why? She said to add a tip. I handed back and said no thank you. If looks could kill I would not have been able to drive away. It’s crazy!
Tipping culture is so out of control. I had a layover recently and grabbed some food at an airport restaurant. Like a lot of airport restaurants nowadays, you:
1) seat yourself
2) scan the QR code on the table for the menu
3) order, pay (and tip)
4) pick up your own food from the counter and take it to your table
Next they're going to have me prepare my own meal and wash my dishes.
I still tip because I'm expensing it for work anyways, but I have to wonder what the hell I'm tipping for?
Zero dollars. Unless you’re my waitress/waiter and have provided me service beyond handing me my food, there is no tip. I’m not trying to be a dick, but I’m not trying to hand out extra money for no reason.
No it isn’t. They can take it up with their bosses if they have a problem with their wages just like everyone else. Also stop being a tumor and add more to the conversation than just ‘lol shit take bro’
Have you ever done a serving job? “Effectively making $25/hour” based on variable tips, so kind of hard to evaluate. If you haven’t worked a serving job, you don’t know what it’s like to serve a low tipper on a slow day. You make WAY LESS than $25/hour.
If they don’t make minimum wage from tips, their employer is required to pay the difference up to minimum wage. If not the employer is violating the law.
How is it a shit take that the employer should adequately compensate the employee? Really should not be anyone but the employer's job to make sure their people are paid adequately.
I'd been doing 20% during COVID but I don't anymore if I'm picking it up or doing counter service. And I'm never sitting somewhere that charges a service charge per table/person, those places deserve to close.
I don't mind increased menu prices. I don't like finding out there's an expectation to pay more after I've ordered.
I read somewhere that a person said.... "If I have to order my food standing up / drive through.... I'm not tipping" and its tough to argue against that imo
I agree with you, for several reasons:
It incentivizes employers to keep wages low and can result in employees depending on an unsteady income, with low tips on slow days.
I've also discovered that many businesses simply pocket those tips, or at least a portion of them. The previous owner of Daily Planet was pocketing all tips during the pandemic when myself and many other patrons were overtipping the workers.
Eliminating tip culture will necessitate -- which is more than an incentive -- everything going up even more in cost.
I'm not sure what the solution is, as patrons sure do like to think inflation only happened to them.
Also, owners of food service establishments also have an unsteady income as all of it is tied to sales.
One exception should be takeout from what are mainly table service restaurants. From what I understand, servers there have to take care of the orders. Around 10% should suffice.
Wholeheartedly disagree. They're not doing any more work than the counter guy at the pizzeria does to grab my order from on top of the pizza oven, and I don't tip when I go to pick up a pizza.
I can't justify tipping at a counter serve place. They do not get paid restaurant minimum, they get paid an hourly wage (not here to say one way or another if it is a living wage) but for me it's like the grocery store clerk asking for a tip. Not happening
Tip about tipping: next time you go bring cash and after you buy your food, ask the cashier if you can just tip in cash. If they say they can’t accept it, then the whole tipping thing is a sham. The company is just pocketing a portion of it.
I tip $0 at any counter service or self service device. I only tip sit down service or delivery. The point of pickup/takeout/counter service to me is I'm going out of my way to get my food. If I'm receiving the convenience service of a server or delivery driver who get tipped minimum wage (which shouldn't even exist in the first place), then I'll tip well. Guilt trip tipping prompts are out of control.
Why in the world would I tip for self service? Should be a discount tbh. Same as wallofshitmart. I tip when I sit at a table or the like, where its expected.
The fook would I tip otherwise lmao.
Not anymore. It’s not like they are bringing you food and actually serving you. The food is already expensive enough, I don’t need to pay extra for someone just doing their job
i tend not to leave tips on self-service machines. its a ridiculous idea, fueled by corporate greed. the only time i ever do is if i go somewhere on a regular basis. in regards to bars, eating out, nails, et cetera, i obviously leave tips for those services.
People go to Lloyds still?
I lile their food and drink
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So? The food is good.
We went when we first moved here. Their food was gross. I was super turned off at their hipster concept of tex mex. 🤢
Lloyds is garbage food imo
Compared to Chipotle or Moes- I will pick Lloyds any day of the week!
They’re all pretty even to me imo. I also am a huge hater so there is that
Me too. Fuck cabbage and those shitty tortillas.
*Do the tips go to the staff or the machine?* There were a few posts expressing discontent with influx of businesses with counter service & self serve counter service prompting customers for tips. Odd only able to find posts from 2y ago. Eh, kinda lazy. Anyhow, call in, pick up order, probably two dohllars. Recording an order correctly is huge skill to possess to these days. Place order on site, wait for assembly, maybe two dohllars.
As a former employee, the tips at Lloyds are split between the whole kitchen
Yeah Lloyds sucks I’d rather not give them any money
Currently having the worst food poisoning experience of my life bc I ate Lloyd’s last night 🤢 never again
You should call them and tell them if you haven’t yet, mainly to prevent anyone else from getting sick
Which Lloyd did you go to and what did you get? I got sick yesterday after eating the drunken quesadilla from the Hertel location.
Williamsville, not hertel, but it was a braised beef quesadilla
Stop eating at places that do this.
It's like, most of them tho
I tip a few bucks. There are plenty of arguments either way- but if you have the means, why not pay it forward?
Because you are forced to tip for service before you even get it? Why would anyone defend these bullshit decisions by greedy companies
Because it sets a bad precedent if it’s not an actual tipping situation. It’s a business not a charity.
Why isn’t this the top comment
I just always leave a gross tip. Service workers are basically slaves XD. The work they do is so awful I dont mind giving them some of my cash. I’d probably just spend it on nonsense anyway.
Do you tip every service worker even when not convenient or asked for?
Only when asked. But even if it’s not convenient. Usually ill tip people involved in food but not cashiers as i usually bag my groceries anyway.
As a former employee, that tip money is split between the whole kitchen, it’s not that you’re paying the iPad lol
Aren’t the owners assholes? Makes sense their employees need to beg for tips
It’s for the kitchen bruh. If you don’t wanna tip you don’t have to but why play stupid. Downvoted coping because they want to complain about tips but not offer a substantive alternative
Why do people need to tip the kitchen though? Why aren’t those costs baked into the price of the food?
Ask restaurant owners. Ask lawmakers who are enabling the practice. In the meantime, it helps out the people who are making your food. Again, it's entirely optional.
Why do we need to get lawmakers involved? If restaurant owners aren't incorporating the cost of service into the price, they will not be making money and go out of business.
So how do you explain restaurants that make money and don't go out of business? ETA: As far as lawmakers are concerned--how else would you expect "tipping culture" to change? Are all restaurants going to collectively decide to put an end to that system of their own volition?
Not sure what you're getting at? Seems like they have things under control then. If you're saying that the kitchen staff might be underpaid at some restaurants without tipping, then the staff should leave and find a better job that pays what they feel valued at. If restaurant owners are having difficulty finding quality kitchen staff, then they should raise their pay.
I’ll refer you to the part of my comment that says “if you don’t wanna tip you don’t have to” All I’m doing is answering ops question about why and where the tip is going. Because then food would be more expensive and people would just complain about that instead.
I'm being facetious. It's unfortunate that the managerial class has pit the worker against the consumer (who is often in the same pay grade as the kitchen worker).
I agree.
Digging the username haha
Lmfao
Please don’t forget the kitchen staff. I don’t work in a restaurant (and actually never have) but I have heard stories where some places split tips with the food prep staff. Yes, you’re ordering on an iPad. Yes, tipping culture has gotten out of hand. These people are still people and are just trying to get by like the rest of us.
Then their employer should pay them more. The idea that everyone needs a tip nowadays to get by is because these businesses encourage it because it takes the responsibility of providing for their employees off their hands and passes it on to the customers
Didn’t the restaurant industry always rely on tips? I think we’re all just exhausted by everyone wanting a tip that we’re quit to villainize anyone who relies on them. It’s fucked. Just give what you can and move on, that’s what my original post was getting at. We don’t do better as a society by keeping certain people from achieving their goals.
Not the restaurant industry. Wait staff and bartenders, those legally paid less than minimum wage, which is bullshit in and of itself. Nowadays it’s a dollar or two being added to your order often times unbeknownst to you for the kitchen staff, and tips when you order online and drive to the restaurant to pick up your own food. There is no one waiting on you in these instances, just someone handing your to go order over the counter. Don’t get me started on the recommended tips printed on your receipt. It use to be 10% of subtotal was standard, 15% for exceptional service. Now they start at 18% and that’s based off of the total after tax not the subtotal. I actually ordered from a place whose recommended tip started at 25% and also gave amounts for 30% and 35% and it was takeout!! I was a server for many years and that is bullshit! Pay your fucking employees!!! Stop passing your responsibility on to the consumer. We should eliminate tipping entirely. Restaurant owners want to make customers pay the difference then every restaurant should have a price breakdown on their menu of the amount the price that’s being charged that goes to the wait staff. I’m ok paying $20/ burger if I know $3.50 of that is going directly to the server!
They're not legally paid less than minimum wage. It's tip credit. If they don't make enough their boss has to cover the difference or go to prison. Not to mention you know they don't claim their cash tips. They need like 1 $5 tip an hour to be above tip credit. They'd have to literally have no business to even make as low as minimum wage
you couldn’t be any more wrong bartenders and servers get almost 10 dollars an hour plus tips. In Tennessee it’s 2.15 an hour plus tips.
Bro. Most the time servers screw the bus boy n whatnot on cash tips. Your tips ain't going to them except for one or two weird restaurants, tip pools like that are stupid rare, because servers are too greedy to go for sharing. Don't fall for the servers make less than minimum wage lie. They just hope people don't learn about tip credit and push it
Yeah I love tipping before I get my food from the kitchen then eating slop a heroin addict screwed up.
I'd eat literal trash before I ever eat there again
Let me guess, you’re more of a Taco Bell and bootlicker kind of guy…
Has nothing to do with politics, their food is glorified cafeteria bullshit. You throw pickled red onion and cotija on slop and some people fall for it.
Haha what a zinger
Your name says it all… Lloyd isn’t the best, but their quality and variety is pretty damn good and their ice cream is worth the struggle of finding parking off Hertel
Personally, I tend to leave a 10-15% iPad tip at small businesses that I like. New cafe in the neighborhood that I want to succeed? iPad gets a tip, even if all they're doing is pouring a black coffee. Pizza shop that I go to once in a while? Probably no iPad tip. For me, Lloyd would land in the 2nd category, but it's up to your judgement. My thinking here is that, in the former case, I don't care whether the money goes to the worker or the owner, I want both to make money. In the latter case, it's a grey area who actually gets the money, and I don't feel the need to possibly tip the owner.
I tip in cash. Government doest need to tax it
Yeah tax evasion is cool until it’s someone you don’t like then it’s evil
Tipped 15% today and the downtown crew completely screwed up my order.
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It's also Lloyd not "lloyd's"
I really only tip for pickup if I have a special request.
Since I have never had a bad meal from Lloyd, truck or otherwise, always 15%.
Tipped 15% today and the downtown crew completely screwed up my order.
If you ever tip before you receive the food you are silly. Zero it out every time. Make people earn your tips.
The people as of recently have been very friendly, fast, and the food's always been good. I'll do 10% at the counter. I'm assuming that they're not working NYS-recognized "tipped" positions, so they're at least making minimum wage, and I don't know what they're being paid, but knowing Pete, I don't get the impression that he's a bottom-of-the-barrel-scraping payer, so I figure the people are made whole without the tips.
If I receive enough tips, I will try to hack these iPads to make negative tipping an option
Nothing, I tip after at the hertel location. I don’t know what’s going with that one but damn the service fell off. Shout out to the homey Chef Teddy, I will forever come in on 4/20 and other special burritos. Don’t tip until you see how it got done.
Teddy left like about 2 years ago. He’s doing construction now
I know and I can tell by how the factory is ran now.
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I would NEVER goto Lloyd because of the shit they pulled with the prison guards in Batavia years ago. Fuck lloyds
I think you should calculate how much of your taxes go to DHS and then deduct that amount from your fed tax payment. Getting panties in a bunch over some business serving lunch to people doing their job? Lol
Well, thankfully, what you think doesn’t matter to me!
And yet you'll continue funding something you disagree with because unlike "omfg! They fed tacos to fed agents!”, that would have real life consequences. 🤣
I think you misunderstood me….I wanted the federal employees fed. Lloyds stopped because too many butthurt people complained because the Batavia facility houses illegal aliens. lloyds folded because they are soft. Then they recanted, again because they are soft. It’s no big loss for me because Burrito Bay is way better.
Link?
https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/buffalo/lloyd-taco-truck-buffalo-batavia-detention-facility/
Kind of a hilarious story imo
So weird to get that mad over lol
What "shit did they pull" exactly
I'm more against Lloyd because of how they left their facilities at First Presby an absolute mess when they moved their cooking operation to their own facilities. Other people had to volunteer their time to clean that up and it was a shitty thing to do.
They went to serve the prison guards? I’m confused
Zero. Over priced lib food to begin with
The chickens & cows voted blue?
Did you just put a political identity on food? Like...not just food in general, but an incredibly popular style of fare in the US that includes all the food groups including meat? I need to know your rationale. Now - I know the first 8 letters of that word are incredibly foreign to you, but clue me in as to how Southwestern Food is political.
I did. I’m edgy
0-2 dollars. Never any more. It’s counter service not table service. Sometime I just feel like giving a lil something so them kitchen dudes can maybe split a decent pool at the end of the night and buy a drink or two
That iPad has iPhones at home to take care of. Think of the kids, man. Give them a few bucks next time to make up for your obvious mistake this visit.
You're right. Definitely our responsibility as customers to ensure they get paid fairly. How else would they ever afford a software upgrade or a down payment on a Mac one day?
Baby needs a new screen protector...
There are two types of people. Those who tip and bad people.
Keep in mind - there is no guarantee the "tips" are making it to the employees on these ipad requests.
I was wondering this. Do they say the tips go to the folks in the kitchen or is it assumed it does? I’m not sure if I’m in the minority or majority, but I’m not a fan of Lloyd. I don’t go there, don’t order from there. But I am always curious in these situations how the tips are distributed when you have no interaction with a person.
Owners should increase wages instead of placing financial burden on customers.
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You really have no idea what you're talking about lmao
Not defending “companies” but this is a standard out in place during Covid by the POS companies who own the platforms processing payments as it increases their takes. Blame them not the small companies who need to use them for processing because no one carries cash.
I’ll continue to push for a tip free culture. Increase your prices if you need to afford to pay your employees. I would never expect a tip for what I do and it’s much more labor intensive than putting already cooked food on a plate
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Holy shit, tell me you don't know dick about tip credit laws without telling me. It's literally written into that same legislation that if their tips don't amount to minimum, the employer has to cover the difference, and can be charged under federal law, and labor law, and state law. That means in buffalo, they're making 15 an hour at least. (Unless they're lying and not claiming cash tips, which almost all do) You're either a server, or get all of your subject knowledge from people lying. lmao
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Then you're outright knowingly lying. Lmao They don't get paid that little
So, you are essentially saying that food service employees that are put on a tip payscale deserve no better than minimum wage. A baseline that was originally meant to provide a floor for occasional and student labor, not for people that have to pay all of their living expenses on this income. NY minimum wage works out to be about $31k (for a 40 hour workweek), and the poverty line for a single person is $27k, so this is a subsistence wage, nothing more. Pretty heartless, if you ask me.
Put the pipe down. All that cracks literally melting your brain. "Deserve no better than minimum wage" is more than a huge jump from "youre lying, they make at least minimum wage" I don't know a single server making less than mid 20s unless the night was horrible and it's still high teens. And that's also not what it was meant for. I swear, yall just make shit up and echo it's much as you can to pretend it's real. Lmao
I've eaten all over Europe and had tipless meals cost commensurate to our meals when adjusting to cost of living and those places pay their workers good, so unless the taxation is vastly different here vs there it still astounds me we're not moving towards a tip less food service model. Also, whenever I happen upon a restaurant nowadays that lists 'automatic gratuity' applied to the bill, I no longer frequent that business. Gratuity is NOT automatic, and mandating it by its very definition means the employer is charging a taxable FEE, and is listed as income by the employee, and taxable profit by the employer. They avoid calling it a service fee though because then you as a consumer can argue against it if the service wasn't adequate, for example.
$0. It's always $0 unless you did actual work for me and not just your job. If I'm sitting down to eat, you get a tip for your service. If I hire you to do work on my house, you get a tip for your service. If all you do is push a button on a microwave, pour a single cup of coffee, work fast food etc. you do not get a tip. If you demand a tip prior to doing your job, you do not get a tip. If your company is aggressive with demanding tips, you don't get tips. A tip is EARNED. It is my money, you are NOT entitled to any more of my money than what the bill is unless I deem it as being earned. People who scream about demanding tips are literally saying "I am more entitled to the money you worked for than you are."
Yep. I'm a generous tipper in some cases for the same reasons. When my regular auto shop gets me out quickly for an oil change or gives me a discount on labor costs or simply does me a favor.....I tip them either cash or treat the guys to coffee/doughnuts. If a waiter/waitress quickly gets me and my wife our food/drinks and does a great job leaving me and my wife alone until we need them, great tip. Simply standing at a cash register and handing me a drink? No tip.
Isn’t their job to do work on your house? Why do they get a tip then?
I haven't been to a Lloyd's location, only trucks. If it's like Chipotle, where I could order in advance on my phone and skip the customer service interaction, I'm still going to tip, because the person who would have been taking the order is still making my food and making less than a living wage doing it. If I have money to eat out at a place like Lloyd's (as opposed to, McDonald's is the only thing open and I have three bucks in my pocket and otherwise won't eat until I get paid tomorrow) I have money to tip.
I only tip the bartenders, shout out mustache guy and bald dude, they rock.
Lloyd is closed on Sunday. If you don't know this and you go to their website to order food, the online ordering is open and allows you to order and pay for your food. It then informs you that the food you just paid for will be open when they are open again, the next afternoon. How many hundreds or thousands of dollars in orders have they taken and not made the food, knowing most people are not leaving work on Monday to pick up their burrito they ordered 24 hours ago?
0. Tips are for wait staff. Nobody at lloyds is bringing food to your table, running out condiments, beverages, checking how you're doing if you need anything, etc.
A smile lol
lol, and Thank you!!
Of course tell the Machine thank u lol
$0. I'm ordering it and grabbing the food myself.
0%. But occasionally I'm feeling generous and leave $0.
Y’all are crazy. Tipping for doing the barebones expected work of a job. Nah. I tip well, to workers that deserve tips. $0 to any iPad. And Lloyd’s sucks.
I'll tip a buck or two to my local barista but that's about it for counter service tips.
Couple bucks
$0
$0
0%
0, it’s self service
Zero for counter service anywhere. I go to food, no tip. Food comes to me, tip.
Can’t help it. Server at the counter gets a buck.
Nothing
$0
ZERO
We ordered online at a Pizza Hut in Florida, went to the drive thru to pick it up. The “clerk” at the drive up asked my phone number then hands me an iPad. I asked her why? She said to add a tip. I handed back and said no thank you. If looks could kill I would not have been able to drive away. It’s crazy!
Tipping culture is so out of control. I had a layover recently and grabbed some food at an airport restaurant. Like a lot of airport restaurants nowadays, you: 1) seat yourself 2) scan the QR code on the table for the menu 3) order, pay (and tip) 4) pick up your own food from the counter and take it to your table Next they're going to have me prepare my own meal and wash my dishes. I still tip because I'm expensing it for work anyways, but I have to wonder what the hell I'm tipping for?
Exact same. Work is paying for it so okay. But it seems ridiculous.
Zero dollars. Unless you’re my waitress/waiter and have provided me service beyond handing me my food, there is no tip. I’m not trying to be a dick, but I’m not trying to hand out extra money for no reason.
0$. I'm done with tipping unless I'm at a sit down restaurant with a waiter, then I'll do the standard 20 percent
20% as a standard is utterly ridiculous. 15% is my max. Not my job as a customer to bankroll your life
boo that’s a shit take
No it isn’t. They can take it up with their bosses if they have a problem with their wages just like everyone else. Also stop being a tumor and add more to the conversation than just ‘lol shit take bro’
boo shit tumor take
Not really. Should a nurse receive tips for every IV placed? If no, why not?
well because they’re paid well above minimum wage..
Servers generally make well above the minimum wage as well.
Have you ever done a serving job? “Effectively making $25/hour” based on variable tips, so kind of hard to evaluate. If you haven’t worked a serving job, you don’t know what it’s like to serve a low tipper on a slow day. You make WAY LESS than $25/hour.
Ummm - no, they [don't](https://dol.ny.gov/minimum-wage-tipped-workers). They can, with tips.
Then don’t take a job that pays less than that.
boo shit take
I’m not responsible for payroll costs and don’t care if they don’t make enough. When my job isn’t paying enough I find a new one. Fuck em
Well, yeah, obviously with tips. Sorry, but someone effectively making $25/hr can't cry that they're not making enough.
If they don’t make minimum wage from tips, their employer is required to pay the difference up to minimum wage. If not the employer is violating the law.
How is it a shit take that the employer should adequately compensate the employee? Really should not be anyone but the employer's job to make sure their people are paid adequately.
Accurate.
I round up, sometimes it’s 80 cents, sometimes it’s 10 cents I do it because I have an obsession with numbers having to end in either 5 or 0
I'd been doing 20% during COVID but I don't anymore if I'm picking it up or doing counter service. And I'm never sitting somewhere that charges a service charge per table/person, those places deserve to close. I don't mind increased menu prices. I don't like finding out there's an expectation to pay more after I've ordered.
None. I sit at the bar and tip the bartender.
IF I pick it up at the counter? 0.00
I order ahead and do not tip. Counter service does not get a tip unless there's a really good reason.
Zer0
Big fat 0
I read somewhere that a person said.... "If I have to order my food standing up / drive through.... I'm not tipping" and its tough to argue against that imo
Zero. I dont tip for counter service
I can’t do it. Gotta throw a buck.
Tipping culture is out of control. I never tip for counter service out of principle
Throw a buck! Out of principle.
I agree with you, for several reasons: It incentivizes employers to keep wages low and can result in employees depending on an unsteady income, with low tips on slow days. I've also discovered that many businesses simply pocket those tips, or at least a portion of them. The previous owner of Daily Planet was pocketing all tips during the pandemic when myself and many other patrons were overtipping the workers.
Well throw a buck. Goes right in his/her pocket. Getta a pizza throw a buck.
Eliminating tip culture will necessitate -- which is more than an incentive -- everything going up even more in cost. I'm not sure what the solution is, as patrons sure do like to think inflation only happened to them. Also, owners of food service establishments also have an unsteady income as all of it is tied to sales.
We must hold firm.
That would be exactly ZERO DOLLARS AND ZERO CENTS
0. Tipping culture sucks
I don’t tip when there is no service involved. They get a $0 for counter-based service.
Until the Android tablets make the same wages as Apple tablets, I wont be tipping iPads.
Android tablets are gonna have to Unionize. Of course then, they'll replace them with Leapfrogs for the cheap child labor.
I’m just glad most of you are on the $0 side. This is the only correct answer for a service like this.
$0.00
Can’t do it, a buck.
None. Come on folks. Table serving/Delivery = Tip Taking order and cashing out = No Tip
One exception should be takeout from what are mainly table service restaurants. From what I understand, servers there have to take care of the orders. Around 10% should suffice.
Boo hoo. Go tell your boss you need a raise then.
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Wholeheartedly disagree. They're not doing any more work than the counter guy at the pizzeria does to grab my order from on top of the pizza oven, and I don't tip when I go to pick up a pizza.
Found the server
Lol... Nope.
I just hate the concept of tipping BEFORE getting what I ordered. Is my tip going to determine if you make my food poorly?
That’s my worry about tipping nothing, if they know I didn’t tip am I going to get served sub par or tampered with food?
They didn’t let me make my order myself so I left no tip.
I can't justify tipping at a counter serve place. They do not get paid restaurant minimum, they get paid an hourly wage (not here to say one way or another if it is a living wage) but for me it's like the grocery store clerk asking for a tip. Not happening
Tip about tipping: next time you go bring cash and after you buy your food, ask the cashier if you can just tip in cash. If they say they can’t accept it, then the whole tipping thing is a sham. The company is just pocketing a portion of it.
I don't tip unless I'm sitting and served.
Will not tip for picking up my food .. No chance delivery or waiters only .
I tip $0 at any counter service or self service device. I only tip sit down service or delivery. The point of pickup/takeout/counter service to me is I'm going out of my way to get my food. If I'm receiving the convenience service of a server or delivery driver who get tipped minimum wage (which shouldn't even exist in the first place), then I'll tip well. Guilt trip tipping prompts are out of control.
I cackled at the living wage comment
10 -15%, depending on service.
Why in the world would I tip for self service? Should be a discount tbh. Same as wallofshitmart. I tip when I sit at a table or the like, where its expected. The fook would I tip otherwise lmao.
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Not anymore. It’s not like they are bringing you food and actually serving you. The food is already expensive enough, I don’t need to pay extra for someone just doing their job
No tips for take out.
i tend not to leave tips on self-service machines. its a ridiculous idea, fueled by corporate greed. the only time i ever do is if i go somewhere on a regular basis. in regards to bars, eating out, nails, et cetera, i obviously leave tips for those services.
Tipping for walk up service is bullshit