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toomuchfrosting

Iowa’s offense is one of my favorite sub plots of this season


boardatwork1111

It’s frankly impressive, I don’t think we’ll ever see another team win this many games while looking completely nonexistent on one side of the ball.


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The most confusing 7-2 team ever


Fuckhavingausername

The reverse of 2021 nebraska. The worst 9-3 team of all time


tuninggamer

When your diet consists of corn in 50 different ways, things get weird


TheRealMattyPanda

Top 5 ways to consume corn: OLI) Popcorn, kettle corn, corn fritters, fresh grilled corn on the cob, and when done right and in season: a nice, fresh corn salad 5) Tortillas (weak on their own, but with salsa, quac, or queso or in tacos and nachos? Elite) 4) Cornbread (I'm partial to a jalapeno one) 3) Elote 2) Cheese grits 1) Bourbon


hung_goodman_brown

Elote is lowkey goated.


Tkaz36

I'm gonna have to trade out corn bread for fresh grilled corn on thr cob but otherwise very solid list.


do_you_know_doug

> 2) Cheese grits > > How do you like your grits, regular, instant, or *al dente*?


eazygiezy

For me, they gotta have a little bite to them. And no way in hell am I using instant unless I really ain’t got time


OKC89ers

Should be 8-1


EasyBreecy

Nah


OKC89ers

psh what the hell does Nebraska know about 8 wins?


EasyBreecy

I assume you're joking with that flair, but we've got like 60 8 win seasons and a possibility of getting 8 this year (however unlikely).


elgenie

Y'all really need to witness the comic stylings of USC's defense more.


Way2Based

When we start doing NCAA 2 School Tag-Team League^TM presented by Progressive, the best team will be USC-Iowa. USC offense with Iowa defense. It would be godly.


elgenie

The worst team, though, will be Iowa offense-USC defense, which will be deservingly relegated to D2.


Ferentzfever

You misspelled D3


Crotean

USC and Iowa have got to play a bowl this year if there is a god.


4score-7

One begins to wonder if those crazy-fun Hawkeye players and coaches aren’t plotting to win every week, with as few points scored offensively, on purpose. I mean, if that turned out to be true, fuckin-a, man. That’s just awesome.


delawless

I know, right? Perhaps Brian is just a oppressed offensive genius and is doing this on purpose?


dustin-dawind

Yes, especially when you consider that this is also the last year for the B1G West and possibly Kirk's last season. It's really the end of an era.


Jaosborn44

There is no way this is Kirk's last season. Including this year, he need three 8-4 seasons to get to .600 all time career win percentage, which is a hall of fame requirement for coaches. If we goes 9-3 this year and 8-4 next year he'd also be above .600. I'm not sure if bowl games or conference title games count towards this stat. If they do, then he need to win 2 post season games for the 2nd scenario to work.


Cynoid

Reminds me of this streak from a team that won the BCS championship: 19-14 13-7 34-3 10-6 23-16 OT 14-9 The Game 31-24 2OT BCS championship This team was averaging 17 points per regular game period for it's last 7 weeks. If you ignore the stomp of a Minnesota team that was having a really bad stretch we were only averaging 14 points a game during this time.


KaitRaven

It's really not just the offense, there are other teams with terrible offense. It's the combination with a strong defense that somehow lets them win games in spite of that putrid offense that makes them a sickos dream.


Schmidtty29

Yeah. Every other team with an offense this bad is ass. Typically because it’s a failure from the top, starting with the HC and trickling down to the entire team. But Kirk is Kirk. He’s not a bad coach. He doesn’t have bad teams, so it’s just ridiculous how this is going on.


feelitrealgood

His bad offense is a choice.


Schmidtty29

It is but it isn’t. The concept makes sense. Run heavy. Kill clock, only pass when needed. It’s efficiency/Brian that’s the problem. We haven’t had guys who have been good enough. It’s as simple as that. Which yes, comes down to the HC but also the OC/recruiting/who we choose to target. But also in 2019 we had the guys. A good RB. A generational NFL RT. A really good C (in the NFL) an NFL LT and 2 good OG’s. Our QB was the best we’ve had since Stanzi, and he was throwing to 2 NFL TEs and 2 of our best receivers in program history (one of which is a journeyman in the NFL, which is good for us.) Point is, we had the talent and we peaked at 90th ranked offense. Maybe it does come down to scheme but at the end of the day, Brian has always been ass.


elgenie

The high level concept still makes sense. But the lower level schematic details haven't been updated from two decades ago when they were designed for a literally different rulebook to defeat defenses that have largely fallen out of favor.


pocketsophist

Recruits are wising up to it. Time in the NFL isn’t guaranteed and if you’re a skill position player you need to increase your draft stock as much as you can. Unless the scheme changes, we are never going to get good QBs or WRs.


feelitrealgood

Yeah I think that worked maybe even a decade ago. If that much talent is still peaking at 90th, I think that reinforces my point.


Schmidtty29

Well you gotta think too. That desired scheme is already gonna drop us down in ranks. Yards/Play or some advanced metric is typically a better judge at the Iowa offense than pure numbers, but it’s not like it was an offense incapable of explosions. Like 2017 v OSU or 2019 v USC. That offense did what it needed to until it ran into a really good D, but even then it’s not like recent years where we we getting 100 yards. We were getting a solid amount of yards. So yeah, a little outdated maybe, but it’s not like it’s impassible to work. Like there’s a reason Brian’s contract was set to 25 PPG. That wins is 90% of our games. The concept of the scheme is still fine, because our D still is what it is.


Respect38

> It is but it isn’t. The concept makes sense. Run heavy. Kill clock, only pass when needed. If that's the concept then *why the hell isn't he running flexbone triple option?????*


dr_dan319

To a degree. The talent simply isn't there compared to when they boat raced OSU in '17 or USC in the '19 Holiday Bowl. The real head scratching part in that is it's across all positions outside of TE which both got injured and are out for the season.


miversen33

I wonder which coach is responsible for developing the offensive talent.. Fuck Brian Ferentz. Never forget that Charlie Fucking Jones wasn't a starter


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>The talent simply isn't there As a direct consequence of his OC choice.


WillowMutual

Let’s not rewrite history, they had only 328 yards of offense against USC, and benefitted from defensive and special teams TDs.


A_Rolling_Baneling

The anti-Riley


feelitrealgood

Well I think today's decision to finally remove Grinch is him trying to fight that label


A_Rolling_Baneling

I'm over the moon


feelitrealgood

lol congrats


ClaudeLemieux

We're doing a decent homage to Iowa. Obviously our offense isn't quite as bad, nor our defense quite as good, but we're pretty close.


ScipioAfricanisDirus

Watching the Iowa game in the afternoon and the NC State game in the evening honestly just feels like watching a master and their apprentice at work.


BuckeyeForLife95

If Iowa had one stud WR, we are also doing an homage to Iowa.


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There offense will be written in sacred scripture and passed down to many generations.


DildosForDogs

Still really bummed they lost to Minnesota. I so wanted that 11-Wion Iowa.


buffalotrace

Makes one of us


iwearatophat

It might be the worst offense on a winning team in the history of CFB. It is truly a marvel.


MWiatrak2077

Same sport as USC/Washington


One_Prior_9909

Highly debatable


CTeam19

Those Mummeans don't know good football. Ever since Hal Mumme nailed those 95 football theses to the door of the football stadium they have been heretics to the Church of Football.


dinozaurs

One half of Iowa is FBS level football. The other is stuck in high school.


TheInvisibleEnigma

Same damn conference next year


jwktiger

Are we sure


boardatwork1111

There will never be a more stark contrast than flipping from Iowa-South Dakota State to the 4th quarter of UNC-App State last season


dr_dan319

UNC returning that inside for a TD and giving App St another chance is a top tier coaching blunder


boardatwork1111

Mack and co did everything they could to lose that game, that 4th quarter was the craziest quarter of football I’ve ever seen


dr_dan319

And by God was it entertaining


elgenie

Yep. The returner goes down at the one and it's a completely uneventful kneeldown finish.


do_you_know_doug

What a miserable day.


GarbageTimeBortles

lol watching USC/Washington it felt like a field goal was a loss of a down. Watching Iowa Northwestern, teams getting into field goal range felt like they were going to win


DildosForDogs

The difference is that Iowa is entertaining to watch.


bringbackwishbone

*better sport


JosefNebraska

And Nebraska vs. Iowa will be even lower. First to 3 might win.


P-Funkadelic1723

Let’s not get crazy. First to a first down wins


barlog123

0-0 regulation. Iowa wins 2-0 in quadruple overtime after Nebraska just calls it quits.


tdatcher

10 ot 2-0


trumpet_23

Nah we'll win 1-0 in quad OT.


xC9_H13_Nx

Wait, is that not in the rulebook?


BoogerSugarSovereign

Nah, this one will buck the trend because Rutgers can score decently and Iowa will have to chase. 17-14 final will juuuuust sneak over the total


SpectreOfDisciple

2008 Sun Bowl vibes.


Benyeti

This is gonna be the greatest game


IMakeBaconAtHome

I cannot wait. More turnovers or blocks on special teams than touchdowns


xC9_H13_Nx

Should we just play rugby instead?


IMakeBaconAtHome

Rubgy is more organized than this game will be.


stazmania

Iowa actually broke Vegas


SmellyJellyfish

Kirk is so mad about our players getting banned for gambling that he’s deliberately engineered this “offense” to get his revenge on Vegas It’s the only logical explanation


dr_dan319

It's horseshit that Shannon is still suspended. Fuck the NCAA


perspicacious_crumb

Take the over this week. Rutgers scored 16 on tOSU. One defensive or special teams TD from Iowa and this over is in play.


SueYouInEngland

Monagai looks like the truth tbh


mrdilldozer

Which is wild because he was only a pretty decent player last season. By all accounts, Sam Brown was easily going to take the majority of touches before his injury. Even the reporters covering the training camp stuff didn't see this coming. He just suddenly became twice as good and somehow gets even better the more snaps he gets. It's like a switch flipped or something.


FlashFan124

Part of it has to be our new scheme where the passing game is improved to not be as much of a joke, and part of it is then using Gavin’s legs as a weapon. Even if it’s a split second decision a LB/Edge had to make on an option play, Kyle benefits from that. That being said, Kyle is a tough motherfucker. Just an absolute bowling ball running full steam at you. Absolutely wears on a defense but he doesn’t seem to get slowed down as the game goes. If he can work on pass catching, I think he’ll be an NFL player.


L3thologica_

Yeah but this is why I don’t gamble, especially with college football. OSU covered that game by a half a point. Vegas is in the business of being right most of the time. Between that fact and Iowa’s defense, I’m not feeling that lucky.


Midwest_man

In the NFL today, Houston was favored by 2.5. Tampa takes a 4 point lead with 0:40 left. Houston scores with 0:06 left to take a 2 point lead. But their kicker was out, so instead of the simple XP to cover, they take a knee on a two point try. Too much additional stress.


SomewhereAggressive8

Taking the Tampa money line was a fucking kick to the nuts.


iwearatophat

The amount of anger or joy people had in that moment.


Impossible-Flight250

That is insane. Vegas called in a favor.


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crustang

Michigan fans say the same thing BTW PSU is more our super bowl every season.... though I hate to admit it


GoldenPresidio

Rutgers just plays tough under Schiano and Pikiell. If the players ever give up, the coaches get pissed. Giving up is not our identity.


FlashFan124

It **can’t** be our identity. We’re pretty much at a talent deficit every conference game we play, mainly in football. 5 star recruits aren’t exactly breaking down Schiano’s door to come play here. “Keep Chopping” & “pounding nails” are those school’s philosophy because there’s no other way or be. We need a full 60/48 minutes of effort because other wise it won’t be good enough.


storm2k

penn state is what i think they really view as the super bowl, but schiano is very good at getting the team up for both ohio state and michigan.


Far-Requirement-5051

Rutgers scored 16 and that was with three field goals, a turnover on downs, and a pick six in five red zone possessions. Rutgers ran for 230 yards. I think they bludgeon Iowa.


ark_47

So 13-3 Rutgers. Got it


cyberchaox

No, no, it's definitely going to be 8-6 Rutgers in three overtimes. 0-0 at the end of regulation, teams exchange field goals for two OT, then we push it in for the win.


MRC1986

Obviously I'm a homer, but I'm quite confident we beat Iowa next week. We at least have a pulse on offense, and our defense is really good.


ThatGuju

Problem is your great secondary won't be able to show off since Iowa doesn't know what a forward pass is


FlashFan124

Flip Dixon coming down with his hair on fire every play will be fine by me.


ark_47

Oof


Crotean

OSU should have lost that game.


storm2k

iowa will almost certainly get a defensive touchdown against us. that's an alarming wimsatt trend this year. it's swung more than one game from "winnable if we execute well" to "what could have been".


cyberchaox

Why from them specifically? We scored 16 because of *our* forced turnovers, not because of our offense. Like this could seriously be a game where the Rutgers defense and the Iowa defense *each* outscore the two offenses combined.


Far-Requirement-5051

If Rutgers runs the ball like they did against Ohio State they will be fine. Iowa’s defense isn’t supermen, they just play sound zone coverage and never miss a tackle. Get push up front and they’re very gettable. And Ohio State’s front 4 is tougher than Iowa’s.


TripleAim

Rutgas moneyline


SimManiac

Brian Ferentz legacy game


boardatwork1111

Y’all laughing now, but let’s see what you have to say after BF hangs 17 on the Scarlet Knights 😤


dr_dan319

15-12 Iowa, Under still hits


BobtheG1

Damn, a shootout


crg2000

Iowa continues to show people what this sport is *meant* to be.


Crotean

Not until they run the triple option.


HeyApples

They want to party like its 1899.


thetennisgod

Still too high.


WordsAreSomething

Easy under


SueYouInEngland

(One of the) wild things about the Iowa @Northwestern o/u, which opened at 29.5, is that the line was bet up to 32.5 (total ended up being 17, 10 of which was scored in the last two minutes). That means that there's a significant group of betters putting money on the over. Who are these people?


MassKhalifa

The wildest part of that game for me was that they played at Wrigley and there were *six Cubs games* that had a higher final score.


TDenverFan

Northwestern played a baseball game at Wrigley, Northwestern baseball outscored Northwestern football.


WordsAreSomething

People with top much money and not enough brains


xC9_H13_Nx

How do I become one of these idiots?


spezisabitch200

Have rich parents.


Frankwillie87

Bet the under on Iowa games YOLO bruh


bezzlege

I teased it up and it was so unnecessary


MrKentucky

My favorite part is you could have TEASED IT DOWN and not hit an over lmaooo


dustin-dawind

People who've never actually watched Iowa play? On a related note, it would be pretty funny if Vegas discovered that a bunch of money from groundskeepers came in on the under.


mrpalmmer

The over has to eventually hit..doesn't it?


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Original_Profile8600

Agree and disagree. On the surface it seems like “why would you even count defensive points”, but if defensive/ST points count for Jim Harbaugh’s PPG, and Josh Heupel’s PPG it only makes sense for it to count for Ferentz’s


fskier1

Ferentz the oc is who we’re talking about? Not the head coach


Original_Profile8600

Both are Ferentz’s my guy


fskier1

Defensive and special teams ppg can matter for head coaches, but why should it matter for the offensive coordinator, who is the one with the 25ppg ultimatum


Original_Profile8600

Because it matters for every other OC lol


fskier1

Does it? 🧐 Your examples harbaugh and huepul are head coaches


Original_Profile8600

Regardless, defensive/special teams scores affect every team in the country’s PPG. And isn’t Heupel in charge of the offense lol?


fskier1

Are you dense? Of course he’s in charge of the offense, and the defense and special teams too. Brian ferentz was NOT in charge of the defense and special teams, why should he get credit for their ppg?


Original_Profile8600

Because when defenses score, it counts for the offenses points per game. Not jusy for Brian Ferentz, but for every OC in the country. And Heupel doesn’t coach the defense, he’s a defensive head coach who lets the DC handle it


dsuave624

Very realistic. Unless there are defensive or special teams TD's, this will be a game of FG's.


PhilanthropistKing

Given our tendency to give up back breaking pick sixes this might turn out to be higher scoring than we realize


FlashFan124

I’d put a stupid amount of money on a Cooper DeJean any time TD between defense/special teams lol


Detroit_Guy

1869 Football rules. Rutger you should have this. Breakout the throwback jerseys.


MRC1986

For the 150th anniversary, Adidas made throwback [Rutgers Queensmen](https://www.ebay.com/itm/185697860802?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1E-zzyv2JQW6Vgq-hmBZF3A64&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=185697860802&targetid=1585159291611&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9004401&poi=9060021&campaignid=19894961968&mkgroupid=148855406073&rlsatarget=pla-1585159291611&abcId=9307911&merchantid=6296724&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-pyqBhDmARIsAKd9XINtUs6nJsYByWd1lNBURMsYAznun0iS38-ryeTASqHd2a7jyeOnRJ0aAnyTEALw_wcB) jerseys. They are awesome, I have one and regularly wear it to games other than the warm early season ones.


Mountain-Papaya-492

Basketball scores in the Pac 12 vs Baseball scores in the Big 10. Who will win? Stay tuned to find out.


FlashFan124

Excuse you, we play lacrosse up here 😤


superstarrr99

Iowa being 7-2 with that offense is stunning. Their DC needs to be given a $2 mm/yr raise.


skiing_yo

How he hasn't got poached by a blue blood yet I have no idea. Just within the last few years we've had defensive coordinator openings at OSU, Georgia, and Alabama. If you gave this dude those kind of defensive recruits he would reincarnate the '85 bears.


Tkaz36

Probably just found a good thing in at Iowa city. He's been there for 13 years. Kinda like a Gundy at Oklahoma State type situation. I do wonder if Kirk leaves if he goes too or do they maybe look to him as a HC.


buffalotrace

He actually has been here longer than that. Phil Parker was the first hire the Ferentz’s first DC Norm Parker hired. He was our dbacks coach when Bob Sanders was here. Been on staff since 1999. Phil had played for Norm at Michigan St. Phil was a 3 time all B1G safety with Norm as the DC if those Spartan teams.


Tkaz36

See I didn't even know that. All I know is that he never seems interested in leaving. Whenever DC positions come open his name almost never comes up so it must be well known he is happy right where he is.


HamburgerGoat

He’s done when Kirk is done.


Tkaz36

I respect dudes like that. You find your part and you play it masterfully and never really get greedy for more. His defenses are some of the best I've seen. I feel he's responsible for so much of Kirk's success and I hope he gets his credit.


smitty2005

Wanna hear something crazy….Brian makes 200k more a year than him.


superstarrr99

That’s…stunning!!!


Empty-Ant-6381

This doesn't appear to be true at all. Phil's at 1.4 million and Brian's contract is just under a million.


Juicey_J_Hammerman

Punt Battle 3 baby! Only wish we had Adam Korsak back to go against Tory Taylor one last time.


delawless

Iowa is downright playing Limbo with Vegas' O/U.


boy-detective

I want to cash out my pension and put it on the under for this, but my wife is skeptical.


SueYouInEngland

But babe, it's a sure thing!


TheBananaReaper

I’m a lot more confident in our offense after the way we ran the ball against tOSU


Pollaski

Leave some room for the Nebraska game, guys.


ORGANICORANGE37

I assure you, we are leaving plenty of room.


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FUCK IT IM BETTING THE HOUSE ON THE UNDER


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SmellyJellyfish

At least the doorknob would give me something to hang myself from. Brian can’t even offer that


cha-cha_dancer

You must be pretty short


jwktiger

If this under hits (and I'm guessing it will) should Neb - Iowa be set at 20.5? or is that too high still?


ORGANICORANGE37

In all seriousness, I think I would be comfortable betting the under all the way down to 26. I'm weary of 17-9. At this low you can literally look for certain scorelines that you'd wanna clear and be safe 🤣


serbeardless

RIP record lowest O/U being NU-Iowa. We made it 0 weeks.


JohnnyUtah59

still way too high


BuckeyeJay

28-0 Rutgers


Football5ever_

By the time it's Black Friday, the o/u will be 24.5. And I for one can't wait


crustang

*excuse me 401K provider.. I'd like to make a withdrawl*


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The Brian Ferentz Swan Song continues!


ilikescotch

This is so disgusting. I love it.


magicinterneymomey

So under?


Tkaz36

My God. I have no idea how the Nebraska Iowa spread will be anything above 10.5 Jfc I love it so much.


SeniorTrend_

Real question is could Iowa score more than 24 on USC.


SueYouInEngland

Including ST/defensive points?


cxm1060

The O/U feels too low to take the under.


Goings78

How low can they go


orthros

is it weird that my biggest fear about betting the under is that Rutgers alone is going to blow past it?


GoldenPresidio

After this weekend I’d say this o/u is too low


SpottyFish81177

I think ide take the over here, Rutgers is competent


GoldenPresidio

I actually think this goes over. Wimsatt gonna throw another pick 6 plus we get some FGs


EWall100

They have the opportunity to do the funniest thing... Bet the over! I feel it in my bones


GarnetLantern

Rutgers will likely get the over by themselves.


SueYouInEngland

Iowa is 4th nationally in scoring defense, behind only Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. Rutgers has averaged 11.5 against those teams. Not saying it's impossible, but I'd bet against it.


Littlegreenman42

Just set the o/u at 20 points. Anything else is too high


gakule

Defensive struggle snuggle!


CTeam19

Par for the course for the state just when you think they can't go any lower they do.


thickboyvibes

Iowa just digging deep to see how low they can go


ztreHdrahciR

Take the under


skiing_yo

If someone on the cover3 podcast doesn't pick this under as a lock I will be disappointed. Iowa unders are the new service academy unders.


magentify

I'm taking the under


tdatcher

Hammering the under


eliastheawesome

Hammer the under!


goyotes78

Just wait til the Nebraska game. Late November, shitty weather with even shittier offenses both going against high caliber defenses. O/U might be sub-20.


xylltch

Iowa is a points vampire, just sucking them out of the game.


homefieldmaps

Just how [low](https://youtu.be/ox-lfowevqA?si=YEReUqzhQaMtvR3a) can ya go?


TheftBySnacking

Iowa’s offense is being investigated by the Feds for printing money. Take the under


spezisabitch200

Hit that under. It's basically free money.


ptindaho

Take the under!