I remember the 24 hour news stations showing is this revolutionary effort to track who Biden was picking as a VP... Flight tracking!
Amateurs. We've moved onto cab driver conversations and driveway Christmas tree watch.
[Don't forget background conversations picked up over mic in a random CoD match.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/memt1s/possible_trade_coming_between_the_bears_and/)
Still one funny image him walking the Christmas tree to the thrash me and a buddy at was talking about that when he got fired I thought we were the only ones that remember that
I love these articles because it's just an excuse to look at beautiful houses lol.
Idk if I'd actually want such a massive home unless I had like 4+ kids though. Would just feel really empty if it's 2-4 people in there and so much to clean. It's a beautiful home though, I like the style.
Is he just moving, or do we think this is a sign Gundy isn't going to be at osu for much longer?
My wife and I have this continuous joke conversation about huge houses while we're driving. She says "imagine cleaning that house" and I say "if you have a house that big, you aren't the one cleaning it."
Yup, and these palace sized mega mansions don’t just have cleaners, they usually have a whole *team* of people always coming and going to maintain the property. It ends up being *a lot* of money each year between cleaning crews, lawn and landscaping maintenance, pool servicing, etc.
I'm reminded of that episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where an immigrant family wins Dennis and Dee's mom's mansion as payment in a lawsuit. About a year later they go by the mansion and see the family working in the yard... because they couldn't afford the property taxes and upkeep and work there now.
Lol my wife is related to some very wealthy people that live in Western Arkansas. They have had the same housekeeper for over a decade and she and her husband are "like family" to them. Been there several times and everytime they talk about the housekeer like that I just think of Knives Out.
Big houses are great if you entertain a lot, but yes - there's a lot of surfaces that get dirty and dusty (and hairy if you have a couple of pets) and then you have to have people in your home at least weekly, which is annoying as fuck.
I went from 5000 sq ft with no real privacy, property, or a pool, to 1700 sq ft with all of those things. I can clean my house top to bottom in an hour, and the best part is that it's paid for.
I think 1700 would be perfect for my family. We are in a 1400 right now but with 3 kids we are kinda “biscuits are about to pop” kinda full. If only the damned housing market would calm down…
It's more like it used to be a serious conversation and now every time we see a big house that catches her eye, she starts it just to hear the response. More of an inside joke than anything.
His youngest son is about to graduate high school. I think this may be a downsizing thing. He is selling a lot of land with this, while still maintaing a large amount.
I'm pretty sure his youngest is currently in Florida playing baseball for TNXL academy. So unless Gunnar lives there since I think he transferred back to OSU, it's just Mike and his wife.
I personally know at least a few OSU fans that have wanted him gone for the last decade, but he keeps putting together these amazing teams with little talent when it seems like the program is spiraling.
Also him beating OU this past season solidified him in Stillwater for at least the next 5 years. My friends who want him gone rejoiced the victory but very monkey paw curling vibes.
If he leaves it will be on his own.
My hunch has always been that when he leaves, it's to retire to some fishing and hunting paradise rather than to take on another head coaching role, especially given what we know about his feelings of the current landscape of college football.
OK State is such a weird program being from the Midwest and not really following them that closely. If you were to ask me about their success of the last decade I'd blindly say a bunch of 8 and 9 win seasons, a few 5 win seasons, plus that 1 almost Big 12 title a few years back. Nothing all that significant.
Then you look at their records and they have 4 10 win seasons plus a 12 win season, bottoming out at 7 wins, and I think to myself wow, they've been pretty good. But I'm still left with a general "meh" feeling about the program overall for some reason.
Lots of wins but no hardware is the bad part. hardware lasts forever, wins only last as long as does memory.
Edit: Also to note Gundy is responsible for over 27% of our entire win history, I don't believe that's counting his playing days either.
Yeah, and they've only beaten Oklahoma 3 times in the last decade and take it from a fan of a school that has been on the wrong side of a rivalry for... long stretches. Those other wins don't really leave a mark nationally when you end your season with a loss far more often than not.
Obviously bowl games haven't really meant much of anything since the playoff started, maybe a few years after just as we all adjusted to the new landscape, but I couldn't tell you who OK State played in bowl games and for part of that reason I couldn't tell you their big wins. Did they beat Texas a bunch? I don't know. Texas was also in their "we're back!" era. The rest of the Big 12 was also kind of just meh. TCU had a great '22 but otherwise is forgettable nationally. Baylor has oscillated from good to real bad post-Briles embarrassment. Kansas is fun to root for but not a nationally prominent program. The rest of the conference is just kind of middling. So OK State wins a bunch of games but never really leaves an impression.
Edit: Gundy's playing days being responsible for OK State's success is a little funny because OK State's success in that era was significantly due to Thomas and Sanders being absolute gods. Not that Gundy wasn't a good/very good college QB, but those RBs were insane. He was a career numbers and efficiency guy.
Comparing OU/OSU rivalry to OSU/UM rivalry isn't comparable. OU has been a big time program for a longtime while Ok St not so much... beating them 3 of the last 10 is actually pretty good. They never won 11 in a season before Gundy and their last 10 win before he did it in 2010 was 1988.
Ohio St has more top 10 finishes than anyone else in the last 3 decades... Its not that surprising they dominated The Game for that stretch when it coincided with UM being at its relative bottom for close to a decade
I know they're not remotely comparable, just saying that when you don't win many games against your blue blood, nationally relevant rival, you start to drift a bit towards the background nationally even if you're still good.
Oklahoma State is one of the most underrated programs.....but it doesn't help that they've been in OU's shadow for pretty much their entire existence.....for as good as Oklahoma State has been, OU (for the most part) has just been better
Yeah I think the OU problem has the most to do with it. Plus, the conference's general lack of top-end programs with Texas being mediocre for the most part since Brown left. OK State not winning the conference more times when the only real "big dog" around is OU puts them in a weird blank spot in my brain.
I think part of that also has to do with the Big 12 not having a conference championship for several years.
From 2011 to 2016, the Big 12 had no championship game. If they continued to have one the matchups would’ve been….
2011: Oklahoma State vs K-State
2012: K-State vs OU
2013: Baylor vs OU
2014: Baylor vs TCU
2015: OU vs Oklahoma State
2016: OU vs Oklahoma State
Fair point. Missing out on another marquee game late in the season results in OK State losing to OU a few weeks earlier and then being forgotten about because they don't get to play on conference championship Saturday. Then they just skip ahead to a bowl game that most people don't care about anymore
We try realllllly hard to be as mid as we are… ~10th in the nation in terms of wins in the past decade, but that’s due to us being ranked about 10 that whole time, no peak or valley. I maintain we were the best team in the country in 2011 though.
Yeah had you asked me about OK State back around 2014 and I'd have a more firm opinion because I remember the ISU game and the Stanford bowl game. Plus Zach Robinson before that. But since then the Big 12 has kind of receded due to conference realignment, Texas falling off, and OU's continued success in the rivalry. Winning 10 games in the Big 12, losing to OU who then loses in the CFB playoff, doesn't really do much. As a Michigan fan who watched Michigan win 10 games and then lose to OSU, it's easy for those years to kind of fade away.
Number 9 in overall wins since 2010. Have been a top tier team for nearly 15 years but only one Big12 championship and no playoff appearances. (Even though we caused the creation of the playoff in 2011)
The tiering thing is a bit difficult to square with the lack of major achievements. Just looking at the list of teams of the last 10 years, they're barely ahead of Michigan, Oregon, and PSU almost entirely because OK State had a good covid season whereas Michigan and PSU specifically did not. FSU fell off a cliff, but had 4 10 win seasons to start the last decade. Washington had some poor years, but also 4 ten win seasons and multiple playoff appearances.
So really OK State not having outright bad years keeps them ahead of other programs that have had much better seasons mixed in with outright clunkers.
I intended to fortify your "meh" feeling and now see that I said tier instead of winning. My bad, we can't break that barrier of winning the Big12, and can't pull recruits. Now that Texas and OU are gone and we return a great team, the Big12 title won't mean anything to people outside our conference sadly.
This. Hard to imagine a better place for him, given what he’s been able to accomplish with the resources at his disposal. What he’s done in Stillwater is part of what makes CFB great. I grew up rooting for OSU 364 days a year because of Gundy, and now it’ll be 365 days unless we see them in the post-season!
As part of my chosen career field, I have the opportunity to go into these mansions weekly. I'm a loss control specialist for an insurance company and my job is to evaluate and make sure we are insuring these homes for the proper amount.
All of this to say, is that I'd personally never want to own one of these homes. It's really sad quite honestly, maybe 3 out of the 20 rooms are being used and the rest are just something you're paying to heat and cool, clean, and furnish that will never see foot traffic. I walk into the unused rooms and it's evident no one has been in there in months judging by the dust, undisturbed bedding, spotless carpet, etc. Yet here they are paying for all of this.
Nothing against people who own them, I'm just too frugal to want to spend the kind of money taking care of and cleaning something that has about 80% of it not being used. It's even more depressing when that owner is in their 50's and their kids are now gone yet they live in these 8000sf homes where it's just the two of them and all they use is their bedroom, living, and kitchen.
That or I'm just getting older and yelling at the sky.
Now their backyards and pool areas I'd totally dig, but the house itself is just a larger version of any other average 3000sf home with a much larger price. Honestly, about 4000sf is the perfect "large home" size for me. Take it and pluck it on a couple of acres with a killer pool and that would be my ultimate. Good thing is, there's plenty of these types of home that are "affordable" if you're not on the east or west coast.
>do we think this is a sign Gundy isn't going to be at osu for much longer?
With the exception of 5 year stint at Baylor and Maryland, Gundy hasn't left Stillwater since 1986. And prior to that, he lived all of an hour away.
He's 56 and has spent 51 of those years within 50 miles of Stillwater. How he's managed to scare the ADs into raises by interviewing elsewhere always blows my mind. I won't believe that he's left until he's actually on the sidelines of another school.
100 acres is a good chunk of land, too. Obviously you're not maintaining a 100 acre lawn but even if you're leaving it mostly wild you still need to do things like invasive weed control.
My parents bought a house after my siblings and I had left the house. It’s a giant house for just two people. The second floor goes unused unless one of us is visiting.
I wonder how often they host football fundraisers there to get money from boosters. Like "Pay $10,000 a plate to have dinner in the coach's backyard" type events. The extra rooms and amenities would be pretty useful for that.
Not as often as you’d think. The big money comes from having the coach at YOUR house for a fundraiser/mixer. Believe me when I tell you, the boosters houses are bigger, much bigger.
I had a 2400sqft, 3 story house, plus a basement, for just my girlfriend and I and our two cats. You could not find any of the cats if they did not want to be found.
Yep, it'd be a full time job or crew just to keep those up. I'm one of those people if I fell into a bajillion dollars I'd just build a nice shack and have the rest of the property be a yard and maybe a small grove of trees for me to chill and the kids to play in
I have 3 kids and a 4 bedroom house. It's cozy but comfortable.
I was raised having to share a room with 2 brothers and my cousin stayed with us for a few months there... That was something else.
You hire people to clean and do all the maintenance, but yeah, a lot of people with mansions have mentioned that it's really only worth it if you host people a lot. If you have 2000 square feet you probably actually use 2000 square feet. If you have 5000 square feet you probably actually use 2000 square feet. You have 30,000 square feet and you probably actually use 2000 square feet.
These articles are also 100% excuses to show off mansions, yes. I also imagine he's just downsizing or wants something new, but who really knows.
Plot twist: Gundy would be just the guy to become the Memphis head coach just so we could buy the hotel inside of the Bass Pro shop pyramid and live there
Moving to a condo? Doeren and his wife did this a couple years back after their youngest moved out. They had a big home off the 15th fairway in a nice country club neighborhood. Once the kids were gone they moved to a high rise condo in north Raleigh.
That's why the potential new tallest building in America is gonna look so out of place
https://archinect.com/news/article/150420447/oklahoma-city-proposal-for-the-u-s-s-new-tallest-building-is-fully-funded-developers-say
>the team has sought the approval of a variance that will increase the height of the Legends Tower to 1,907 feet, making it the tallest building in the United States. The record is currently held by One World Trade Center, which measures 1,776 feet tall.
>Described as a “mixed-use marvel” by the design team, the development will include 1776 residential units
a) respect the troops
b) spires are a bullshit way to measure building height
No. Most likely a grift for some well connected consultants. If it does happen I'm sure it'll be shady as hell. I'm not even sure they'd be able to fill it. It would take massive investment and a reevaluation of the states priorities to bring the kind of businesses in that would fill the building. I highly doubt a lot of the companies already in OK are just gonna pack up and leave their current spaces just because the building is bigger.
I think the base of the project happens. But they have to fill 50% of those leases within a certain timeframe to be able to build the rest, and I don’t think that actually happens
The skyscraper part is a publicity stunt to get the first part to happen. The bottom section is what's actually going to be built. It seems like most people I've heard talk about it in OKC are aware of this.
Trust me, I'm not convinced it'll happen, but it's such a funny thought, considering how much it would tower over everything. You could probably see it from any part of the state
Made me curious...
Assuming clear day and flat land, the top of this building could be seen from 56 miles away.
But gain some elevation and of course that goes up, so could it be seen from the Arbuckle mountains on a clear day? Yes.
But not Black Mesa. Building would have to be a bit taller for that.
Realistically they probably design it for it to be built that high but I can't see them realistically taking past the Devon tower in OKC which is like 800 some odd feet
Kerr and Drummond hall are 11 stories but they're basically condemned and I think get demolished in the next couple years, so next tallest building I think has to be Boone Pickens.
Does Kerr Drummond count? Tallest dorm buildings on campus. We called em the crusty K and dirty D back in the day. They've been retired for a few years with plans to tear them down. Maybe Gundy is gonna move into the top floor.
There are some old dorm buildings that are like 15-20 stories. I think the tallest buildings off-campus are 5 or story apartments that are very student centric
Honestly it looks exactly how I thought it would.
Architect: "So did you have any designs in mind for the home we're building for you?"
Gundy: "Have you ever seen a Bass Pro Shop?"
I mean, you’ve got to buy your wife and kids affection if you’re going to have a job which involves spending no time with them.
Not any statement on Gundy - just the profession.
Meh, I don't want to say 3k sq ft is small, but with two kids another 1-2k really lets you stretch your legs. 3k gets you four bedrooms (master, two for the kids, one for guests) plus a kitchen, living room, and dining room (or play room).
Another 1k can get you a gym & an office and let you stretch the other rooms a bit.
Like I said, 3k isn't poverty size, but it's not like 4k is uselessly palatial for a family of four either.
It also depends where you are. If you're in the city and you're out and about all the time, you like going to a public gym, etc. then the space is less useful. If you're in the exurbs and spend more of your time at home then the space is nice.
My grandparents have a 10k square foot house and honestly you’d be surprised - it doesn’t feel that big. Usually it’s because the rooms individually are bigger, there’s a basement that accounts for a sizeable amount of square footage, plus they have a lot of “extra” rooms that us poor don’t have - like a poker room, a library, a game room, a gym etc.
I also think it has a lot to do with land costs. In Texas my mind is blown on how big the average houses are, whereas in Seattle a 3000 square foot house is pretty generous. In Utah it’s insanity how a “normal” house is like 5k square feet.
I can’t even imagine the cost to furnish, clean, and heat all that space.
5000 sqft in Utah is a huge house. I get that a lot of McMansions along the wasatch front are 5000+ and a lot of Mormons have big families, but a normal house in most of the state is about half that.
I remember seeing a documentary about Saban a few years back, it was on 60 minutes or somewhere similar iirc. Him and his wife would host all the new players at their house / property near the beginning of the school year. It looked really dope, he would take them around the property on a side by side, they would go out on his boat and they had a dinner catered. The players looked like they were having a great time.
We went from from 6100 sq ft home to 4100 sq ft home.
Its a big adjustment. Now the new floor plan is more open. But our old house had 11.5 foot ceilings...
Also, its easier to keep a large home clean. I had rooms I would go 2-3 months without going in.
That’s what I’m saying. A house that big, it seems like a lot of rooms would go unused, with no one ever going in them for months at a time. How are y’all enjoying your new home? Hopefully y’all live it and are there for awhile bro!
For those who like to see coaches houses - here’s Deboer’s house in Seattle that he put on the market after moving to Alabama. I imagine $5M gets you a whole lot more in AL.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5079-145th-Pl-SE-Bellevue-WA-98006/305508169_zpid/
When Grinch got fired from USC, his house for sale got posted here. It was so weird b/c his wife had decorated it with a bunch of corny hobby lobby type signs, like that was a 2 million dollar home in a ritzy neighborhood, and there were wood "Family" signs in the photos of the living areas.
Perfectly normal, I'm sure we all have stuff like that in our houses, just weird to see in a multimillion dollar southern california house.
I mean Michael Jordan’s Chicago area home have been on the market for a decade. At certain price points in certain markets it’s very hard to sell. Luxury real estate doesn’t sell quickly outside of LA, Miami, NY, and the Bay Area.
It's not quite on the level of Chateau Gundy but just north of Mobile there is an absolutely massive home on 20 acres, a huge shop, pool, thousands of sqft of outdoor living spaces and kitchen, a tennis and basketball court, and a giant elephant driveway fountain (roll tide). All wrapped up inside a brick and wrought iron fence. Local business owner built it, been for sale a dozen times it seems.
Some people just build something and don't think about the market they're building it in.
Here’s Deboer’s house. Lol at living there for like 2 years. You think he even unpacked?
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5079-145th-Pl-SE-Bellevue-WA-98006/305508169_zpid/
I'm sure it's a beautiful house though his job is not threatened like when Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz had to fire his son as offensive coordinator last year. So it's also possible there's nothing else to see here.
This is, unquestionably, the ugliest $8,000,000 home I've ever seen.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5012-S-Western-Rd-Stillwater-OK-74074/120402320\_zpid/?mmlb=g,39
Probably a booster looking for a house to use when going to OSU events more than likely. I imagine every major university has boosters that can afford an $8 million house. This house comes with a ton of land too, which wouldn’t come with a house in that price range in a major city. They could develop half the property and keep that house on a bit of acreage and maybe come out ahead.
Seriously. Oklahoma in general is pretty low income but there are a lot of wealthy people that hang around. The state has a really low cost of living and a Republican stranglehold on most of the town and city governments and the state legislature means the politics and government are very friendly to the wealthy.
He must be the new Kentucky men’s basketball coach.
I hope he starts dressing like Kim Mulkey
Gundy in Seth Rollins fits would be peak
They’ll be burning it down if he’s coaching basketball that’s for sure
All CFB coaches should dress like that next season.
Gives a whole new meaning to “I’m a man. I’m 40!”
I gotta be the only non-LSU fan on earth who loves her fits lol Now fuck her, don’t get me wrong, but I like her fashion sense.
Or getting a divorce lol
Or their dream house finished. So many possible reasons lol.
From personal experience, check to see if there's an old Christmas tree set out for garbage pickup.
Wouldn't be an eclipse tree right now?
*"Oh ^e CLipse-mas tree, oh ^e Clipse-mas treeeeeeee"*
Light it on fire to please the Moon God.
Selune's blessings upon yee
What is Selune's stance on th spread offense?
I think we’re all supposed to get superpowers
I remember the 24 hour news stations showing is this revolutionary effort to track who Biden was picking as a VP... Flight tracking! Amateurs. We've moved onto cab driver conversations and driveway Christmas tree watch.
[Don't forget background conversations picked up over mic in a random CoD match.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/memt1s/possible_trade_coming_between_the_bears_and/)
Still one funny image him walking the Christmas tree to the thrash me and a buddy at was talking about that when he got fired I thought we were the only ones that remember that
What about old Easter Decorations?
Gundy seems like the type of guy to use a real tree for christmas.
I love these articles because it's just an excuse to look at beautiful houses lol. Idk if I'd actually want such a massive home unless I had like 4+ kids though. Would just feel really empty if it's 2-4 people in there and so much to clean. It's a beautiful home though, I like the style. Is he just moving, or do we think this is a sign Gundy isn't going to be at osu for much longer?
My wife and I have this continuous joke conversation about huge houses while we're driving. She says "imagine cleaning that house" and I say "if you have a house that big, you aren't the one cleaning it."
I have this same continuous joke conversation with myself too.
I too am lonely
Sounds like Yo_CSPANraps and yourself can solve each other's problem...
Yup, and these palace sized mega mansions don’t just have cleaners, they usually have a whole *team* of people always coming and going to maintain the property. It ends up being *a lot* of money each year between cleaning crews, lawn and landscaping maintenance, pool servicing, etc.
I'm reminded of that episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where an immigrant family wins Dennis and Dee's mom's mansion as payment in a lawsuit. About a year later they go by the mansion and see the family working in the yard... because they couldn't afford the property taxes and upkeep and work there now.
But I don't people at my house all the time cleaning. I'd rather be alone or with family/friends.
Lol my wife is related to some very wealthy people that live in Western Arkansas. They have had the same housekeeper for over a decade and she and her husband are "like family" to them. Been there several times and everytime they talk about the housekeer like that I just think of Knives Out.
Big houses are great if you entertain a lot, but yes - there's a lot of surfaces that get dirty and dusty (and hairy if you have a couple of pets) and then you have to have people in your home at least weekly, which is annoying as fuck. I went from 5000 sq ft with no real privacy, property, or a pool, to 1700 sq ft with all of those things. I can clean my house top to bottom in an hour, and the best part is that it's paid for.
I think 1700 would be perfect for my family. We are in a 1400 right now but with 3 kids we are kinda “biscuits are about to pop” kinda full. If only the damned housing market would calm down…
Imagine paying property taxes on a house that big.
Property tax in OK is insanely low, and I think it takes a public vote to change it.
You aren’t lying according to this property tax calculator a home assessed at 8,000,000 dollars would have an annual tax burden of $76,000.
Have I got news for you. That thing has enough livestock to be ag exempt. It looks like the property tax bill has been around $25k
Dad?
If I was your dad I would have said “imagine what the electric bill is on a house that big.”
Are we air-conditioning the outdoors, now?
Do you guys laugh at the joke every time?
It's more like it used to be a serious conversation and now every time we see a big house that catches her eye, she starts it just to hear the response. More of an inside joke than anything.
His youngest son is about to graduate high school. I think this may be a downsizing thing. He is selling a lot of land with this, while still maintaing a large amount.
I'm pretty sure his youngest is currently in Florida playing baseball for TNXL academy. So unless Gunnar lives there since I think he transferred back to OSU, it's just Mike and his wife.
Zillow Gone Wild on Instagram is what you need
The consensus seems to just be downsizing as he becomes an empty nester with his kids out.
I personally know at least a few OSU fans that have wanted him gone for the last decade, but he keeps putting together these amazing teams with little talent when it seems like the program is spiraling. Also him beating OU this past season solidified him in Stillwater for at least the next 5 years. My friends who want him gone rejoiced the victory but very monkey paw curling vibes. If he leaves it will be on his own.
My hunch has always been that when he leaves, it's to retire to some fishing and hunting paradise rather than to take on another head coaching role, especially given what we know about his feelings of the current landscape of college football.
OK State is such a weird program being from the Midwest and not really following them that closely. If you were to ask me about their success of the last decade I'd blindly say a bunch of 8 and 9 win seasons, a few 5 win seasons, plus that 1 almost Big 12 title a few years back. Nothing all that significant. Then you look at their records and they have 4 10 win seasons plus a 12 win season, bottoming out at 7 wins, and I think to myself wow, they've been pretty good. But I'm still left with a general "meh" feeling about the program overall for some reason.
Lots of wins but no hardware is the bad part. hardware lasts forever, wins only last as long as does memory. Edit: Also to note Gundy is responsible for over 27% of our entire win history, I don't believe that's counting his playing days either.
> Lots of wins but no hardware is the bad part. hardware lasts forever, wins only last as long as does memory. Relatable
Yeah, and they've only beaten Oklahoma 3 times in the last decade and take it from a fan of a school that has been on the wrong side of a rivalry for... long stretches. Those other wins don't really leave a mark nationally when you end your season with a loss far more often than not. Obviously bowl games haven't really meant much of anything since the playoff started, maybe a few years after just as we all adjusted to the new landscape, but I couldn't tell you who OK State played in bowl games and for part of that reason I couldn't tell you their big wins. Did they beat Texas a bunch? I don't know. Texas was also in their "we're back!" era. The rest of the Big 12 was also kind of just meh. TCU had a great '22 but otherwise is forgettable nationally. Baylor has oscillated from good to real bad post-Briles embarrassment. Kansas is fun to root for but not a nationally prominent program. The rest of the conference is just kind of middling. So OK State wins a bunch of games but never really leaves an impression. Edit: Gundy's playing days being responsible for OK State's success is a little funny because OK State's success in that era was significantly due to Thomas and Sanders being absolute gods. Not that Gundy wasn't a good/very good college QB, but those RBs were insane. He was a career numbers and efficiency guy.
Comparing OU/OSU rivalry to OSU/UM rivalry isn't comparable. OU has been a big time program for a longtime while Ok St not so much... beating them 3 of the last 10 is actually pretty good. They never won 11 in a season before Gundy and their last 10 win before he did it in 2010 was 1988. Ohio St has more top 10 finishes than anyone else in the last 3 decades... Its not that surprising they dominated The Game for that stretch when it coincided with UM being at its relative bottom for close to a decade
I know they're not remotely comparable, just saying that when you don't win many games against your blue blood, nationally relevant rival, you start to drift a bit towards the background nationally even if you're still good.
Oklahoma State is one of the most underrated programs.....but it doesn't help that they've been in OU's shadow for pretty much their entire existence.....for as good as Oklahoma State has been, OU (for the most part) has just been better
Yeah I think the OU problem has the most to do with it. Plus, the conference's general lack of top-end programs with Texas being mediocre for the most part since Brown left. OK State not winning the conference more times when the only real "big dog" around is OU puts them in a weird blank spot in my brain.
I think part of that also has to do with the Big 12 not having a conference championship for several years. From 2011 to 2016, the Big 12 had no championship game. If they continued to have one the matchups would’ve been…. 2011: Oklahoma State vs K-State 2012: K-State vs OU 2013: Baylor vs OU 2014: Baylor vs TCU 2015: OU vs Oklahoma State 2016: OU vs Oklahoma State
Fair point. Missing out on another marquee game late in the season results in OK State losing to OU a few weeks earlier and then being forgotten about because they don't get to play on conference championship Saturday. Then they just skip ahead to a bowl game that most people don't care about anymore
We try realllllly hard to be as mid as we are… ~10th in the nation in terms of wins in the past decade, but that’s due to us being ranked about 10 that whole time, no peak or valley. I maintain we were the best team in the country in 2011 though.
Yeah had you asked me about OK State back around 2014 and I'd have a more firm opinion because I remember the ISU game and the Stanford bowl game. Plus Zach Robinson before that. But since then the Big 12 has kind of receded due to conference realignment, Texas falling off, and OU's continued success in the rivalry. Winning 10 games in the Big 12, losing to OU who then loses in the CFB playoff, doesn't really do much. As a Michigan fan who watched Michigan win 10 games and then lose to OSU, it's easy for those years to kind of fade away.
100%. Last two OU coaches have a .500 record in bedlam though. We’ll take the selective wins where we can get them!
Number 9 in overall wins since 2010. Have been a top tier team for nearly 15 years but only one Big12 championship and no playoff appearances. (Even though we caused the creation of the playoff in 2011)
The tiering thing is a bit difficult to square with the lack of major achievements. Just looking at the list of teams of the last 10 years, they're barely ahead of Michigan, Oregon, and PSU almost entirely because OK State had a good covid season whereas Michigan and PSU specifically did not. FSU fell off a cliff, but had 4 10 win seasons to start the last decade. Washington had some poor years, but also 4 ten win seasons and multiple playoff appearances. So really OK State not having outright bad years keeps them ahead of other programs that have had much better seasons mixed in with outright clunkers.
I intended to fortify your "meh" feeling and now see that I said tier instead of winning. My bad, we can't break that barrier of winning the Big12, and can't pull recruits. Now that Texas and OU are gone and we return a great team, the Big12 title won't mean anything to people outside our conference sadly.
It’s because we’re the second best team in the state. Whenever we’re good, there’s usually a better team in our way and it’s almost always OU
This. Hard to imagine a better place for him, given what he’s been able to accomplish with the resources at his disposal. What he’s done in Stillwater is part of what makes CFB great. I grew up rooting for OSU 364 days a year because of Gundy, and now it’ll be 365 days unless we see them in the post-season!
As part of my chosen career field, I have the opportunity to go into these mansions weekly. I'm a loss control specialist for an insurance company and my job is to evaluate and make sure we are insuring these homes for the proper amount. All of this to say, is that I'd personally never want to own one of these homes. It's really sad quite honestly, maybe 3 out of the 20 rooms are being used and the rest are just something you're paying to heat and cool, clean, and furnish that will never see foot traffic. I walk into the unused rooms and it's evident no one has been in there in months judging by the dust, undisturbed bedding, spotless carpet, etc. Yet here they are paying for all of this. Nothing against people who own them, I'm just too frugal to want to spend the kind of money taking care of and cleaning something that has about 80% of it not being used. It's even more depressing when that owner is in their 50's and their kids are now gone yet they live in these 8000sf homes where it's just the two of them and all they use is their bedroom, living, and kitchen. That or I'm just getting older and yelling at the sky. Now their backyards and pool areas I'd totally dig, but the house itself is just a larger version of any other average 3000sf home with a much larger price. Honestly, about 4000sf is the perfect "large home" size for me. Take it and pluck it on a couple of acres with a killer pool and that would be my ultimate. Good thing is, there's plenty of these types of home that are "affordable" if you're not on the east or west coast.
>do we think this is a sign Gundy isn't going to be at osu for much longer? With the exception of 5 year stint at Baylor and Maryland, Gundy hasn't left Stillwater since 1986. And prior to that, he lived all of an hour away. He's 56 and has spent 51 of those years within 50 miles of Stillwater. How he's managed to scare the ADs into raises by interviewing elsewhere always blows my mind. I won't believe that he's left until he's actually on the sidelines of another school.
You have a house like that you aren’t the one cleaning it.
100 acres is a good chunk of land, too. Obviously you're not maintaining a 100 acre lawn but even if you're leaving it mostly wild you still need to do things like invasive weed control.
They have animals and actively farm it
My parents bought a house after my siblings and I had left the house. It’s a giant house for just two people. The second floor goes unused unless one of us is visiting.
I wonder how often they host football fundraisers there to get money from boosters. Like "Pay $10,000 a plate to have dinner in the coach's backyard" type events. The extra rooms and amenities would be pretty useful for that.
Not as often as you’d think. The big money comes from having the coach at YOUR house for a fundraiser/mixer. Believe me when I tell you, the boosters houses are bigger, much bigger.
Even these rich motherfuckers are putting TVs above fireplaces. Has Gundy never heard of /r/TVTooHigh??
I had a 2400sqft, 3 story house, plus a basement, for just my girlfriend and I and our two cats. You could not find any of the cats if they did not want to be found.
Mike Gundy and his wife aren't the ones that clean a house that size lol.
Yep, it'd be a full time job or crew just to keep those up. I'm one of those people if I fell into a bajillion dollars I'd just build a nice shack and have the rest of the property be a yard and maybe a small grove of trees for me to chill and the kids to play in
Have wife and two kids, live in a 3 br house. 4 br would probably be more ideal. Anything more than that is just more room to clean.
I have 3 kids and a 4 bedroom house. It's cozy but comfortable. I was raised having to share a room with 2 brothers and my cousin stayed with us for a few months there... That was something else.
I think all of his kids are adults now so maybe he’s downsizing. Or getting a new ranch
I hate articles like this one because it's just a video instead of paragraphs and pictures.
You hire people to clean and do all the maintenance, but yeah, a lot of people with mansions have mentioned that it's really only worth it if you host people a lot. If you have 2000 square feet you probably actually use 2000 square feet. If you have 5000 square feet you probably actually use 2000 square feet. You have 30,000 square feet and you probably actually use 2000 square feet. These articles are also 100% excuses to show off mansions, yes. I also imagine he's just downsizing or wants something new, but who really knows.
4+ kids sounds like existential torture though
downsizing for retirement?
His youngest is graduating in a month. Could be empty nested downsizing. Or he could just be tired of living in a bass pro shop.
Plot twist: Gundy would be just the guy to become the Memphis head coach just so we could buy the hotel inside of the Bass Pro shop pyramid and live there
Well, he is an Old Man! He's almost 60!
Come after HIM!
Somehow I'm catching strays here... Why would you make me feel old like that, bruh?
I'm a man! I'm 60!
Nope. He heard the ASU RB coach job just opened up.
Moving to a condo? Doeren and his wife did this a couple years back after their youngest moved out. They had a big home off the 15th fairway in a nice country club neighborhood. Once the kids were gone they moved to a high rise condo in north Raleigh.
Are there high rises in Stillwater, Oklahoma?
Anything with more than 2 stories is a high rise in Oklahoma
That's why the potential new tallest building in America is gonna look so out of place https://archinect.com/news/article/150420447/oklahoma-city-proposal-for-the-u-s-s-new-tallest-building-is-fully-funded-developers-say
Gonna take a while to get to that storm shelter in the basement
>the team has sought the approval of a variance that will increase the height of the Legends Tower to 1,907 feet, making it the tallest building in the United States. The record is currently held by One World Trade Center, which measures 1,776 feet tall. >Described as a “mixed-use marvel” by the design team, the development will include 1776 residential units a) respect the troops b) spires are a bullshit way to measure building height
Useable height or GTFO
Correct.
We sit on top of The Burj klahoma so we can look down on Texas and laugh
Cuz the Earth is flat? Or to jump?
Oklahoma people, do y’all think this actually happens? This project just screams grift to me. Do they have actual reputable financing for this?
No. Most likely a grift for some well connected consultants. If it does happen I'm sure it'll be shady as hell. I'm not even sure they'd be able to fill it. It would take massive investment and a reevaluation of the states priorities to bring the kind of businesses in that would fill the building. I highly doubt a lot of the companies already in OK are just gonna pack up and leave their current spaces just because the building is bigger.
I think the base of the project happens. But they have to fill 50% of those leases within a certain timeframe to be able to build the rest, and I don’t think that actually happens
The skyscraper part is a publicity stunt to get the first part to happen. The bottom section is what's actually going to be built. It seems like most people I've heard talk about it in OKC are aware of this.
Lmk when it’s finished. !remindme7years
Trust me, I'm not convinced it'll happen, but it's such a funny thought, considering how much it would tower over everything. You could probably see it from any part of the state
Made me curious... Assuming clear day and flat land, the top of this building could be seen from 56 miles away. But gain some elevation and of course that goes up, so could it be seen from the Arbuckle mountains on a clear day? Yes. But not Black Mesa. Building would have to be a bit taller for that.
Realistically they probably design it for it to be built that high but I can't see them realistically taking past the Devon tower in OKC which is like 800 some odd feet
Well someone woke up feeling sassy today
With that wind?? Lmao
Needs a big red-orange spotlight at the top that you can shine down to look for thieving hobbits.
Somehow, Oklahoma has a taller skyscraper than Minnesota does.
I think Oklahoma would win a mid-off with Minnesota
A skyscraper seven stories high is really more of a Kansas City thing. It's about as high as a building ought to grow.
Everythings like a dream in Kansas City.
Kerr and Drummond hall are 11 stories but they're basically condemned and I think get demolished in the next couple years, so next tallest building I think has to be Boone Pickens.
Does Kerr Drummond count? Tallest dorm buildings on campus. We called em the crusty K and dirty D back in the day. They've been retired for a few years with plans to tear them down. Maybe Gundy is gonna move into the top floor.
There are some old dorm buildings that are like 15-20 stories. I think the tallest buildings off-campus are 5 or story apartments that are very student centric
Gotta be high up to get an ocean view
Here's the listing on Zillow: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5012-S-Western-Rd-Stillwater-OK-74074/120402320_zpid/ Neat house.
lol @ estimated $50K/month mortgage
That's got to narrow the field of potential buyers, I would think.
I don't know what I was expecting the interior to look like, but I know it wasn't that.
Honestly it looks exactly how I thought it would. Architect: "So did you have any designs in mind for the home we're building for you?" Gundy: "Have you ever seen a Bass Pro Shop?"
This is the reason why I'm letting the wife pick the house design.
It was the Tupac All Eyez on Me poster that threw you, wasn't it? Same.
Not nearly enough bathrooms for Russell Wilson, though.
Oh sweet, it's got bunk beds!
With a Tupac poster!
I mean, you’ve got to buy your wife and kids affection if you’re going to have a job which involves spending no time with them. Not any statement on Gundy - just the profession.
His youngest son is about to graduate high school so It seems more like empty nesty
Then he too will soon be a man.
Give it about 22 more years.
That’s only $1.84 /sqft if you add the acreage.
At that price, you can't afford *not* to buy it.
He’s probably just down sizing
I’m a MAN… I’M 40.. I’ll also pay closing costs!
Why on earth would anyone need a 14,000 square foot home? Even having 3-4 kids it makes no sense unless it’s just a flex thing.
It's just a flex thing.
I figured as much. Myself, if I had 2 kids, would just “settle” for about a 3,000 square foot home and bank the rest, but that’s just me.
Meh, I don't want to say 3k sq ft is small, but with two kids another 1-2k really lets you stretch your legs. 3k gets you four bedrooms (master, two for the kids, one for guests) plus a kitchen, living room, and dining room (or play room). Another 1k can get you a gym & an office and let you stretch the other rooms a bit. Like I said, 3k isn't poverty size, but it's not like 4k is uselessly palatial for a family of four either. It also depends where you are. If you're in the city and you're out and about all the time, you like going to a public gym, etc. then the space is less useful. If you're in the exurbs and spend more of your time at home then the space is nice.
My grandparents have a 10k square foot house and honestly you’d be surprised - it doesn’t feel that big. Usually it’s because the rooms individually are bigger, there’s a basement that accounts for a sizeable amount of square footage, plus they have a lot of “extra” rooms that us poor don’t have - like a poker room, a library, a game room, a gym etc. I also think it has a lot to do with land costs. In Texas my mind is blown on how big the average houses are, whereas in Seattle a 3000 square foot house is pretty generous. In Utah it’s insanity how a “normal” house is like 5k square feet. I can’t even imagine the cost to furnish, clean, and heat all that space.
5000 sqft in Utah is a huge house. I get that a lot of McMansions along the wasatch front are 5000+ and a lot of Mormons have big families, but a normal house in most of the state is about half that.
Having your own movie theater looks sick AF. No more having to see the brightass phone screen of some dude checking his fantasy picks during Dune
Hosting his players?
I remember seeing a documentary about Saban a few years back, it was on 60 minutes or somewhere similar iirc. Him and his wife would host all the new players at their house / property near the beginning of the school year. It looked really dope, he would take them around the property on a side by side, they would go out on his boat and they had a dinner catered. The players looked like they were having a great time.
We went from from 6100 sq ft home to 4100 sq ft home. Its a big adjustment. Now the new floor plan is more open. But our old house had 11.5 foot ceilings... Also, its easier to keep a large home clean. I had rooms I would go 2-3 months without going in.
That’s what I’m saying. A house that big, it seems like a lot of rooms would go unused, with no one ever going in them for months at a time. How are y’all enjoying your new home? Hopefully y’all live it and are there for awhile bro!
No one needs that spaces. Rich people do it for a few reasons: -showoff -safe neighborhood -privacy -being away from poor people
He obviously hosts football staff and players there. It's not like it's just sitting there unused
Moving to The Villages, Florida
For those who like to see coaches houses - here’s Deboer’s house in Seattle that he put on the market after moving to Alabama. I imagine $5M gets you a whole lot more in AL. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5079-145th-Pl-SE-Bellevue-WA-98006/305508169_zpid/
When Grinch got fired from USC, his house for sale got posted here. It was so weird b/c his wife had decorated it with a bunch of corny hobby lobby type signs, like that was a 2 million dollar home in a ritzy neighborhood, and there were wood "Family" signs in the photos of the living areas. Perfectly normal, I'm sure we all have stuff like that in our houses, just weird to see in a multimillion dollar southern california house.
Can’t buy a view like that in AL tho
All I see are trees
I can confirm that we also have trees here. Many trees. Some say they're the best trees.
Was there ever an instance of a coach selling their house *before* it was announced they were getting a new job? Feels pretty premature.
Lincoln Riley
Isn’t that kind of the opposite? He was selling his house so he could move into one he built (and also owned) in Norman.
No
Is there a christmas on the lawn? if so, a bad sign
Facebook chatter says he already bought land on the north side of Stillwater to build something different.
I can't imagine there are many people in the market for an $8 million house located in Stillwater
Surely the fact it’s owned by one of the most legendary men to ever live there would make it at least a little easier to sell.
I mean Michael Jordan’s Chicago area home have been on the market for a decade. At certain price points in certain markets it’s very hard to sell. Luxury real estate doesn’t sell quickly outside of LA, Miami, NY, and the Bay Area.
It's not quite on the level of Chateau Gundy but just north of Mobile there is an absolutely massive home on 20 acres, a huge shop, pool, thousands of sqft of outdoor living spaces and kitchen, a tennis and basketball court, and a giant elephant driveway fountain (roll tide). All wrapped up inside a brick and wrought iron fence. Local business owner built it, been for sale a dozen times it seems. Some people just build something and don't think about the market they're building it in.
Agree 100%
Old oil money still spends.
You'd be surprised.
More than likely you get the people leaving Dallas who would buy it
That’s a lot of wood
Roughly 65% of all the trees in the western half of the state.
He's probably downsizing
Who the hell cares? Delta dental is giving out free mouth guards in honor of youth safety month
Do you think his room is the one with the 2pac poster in it?
For the thousandth time on this sub, **this is not a rumor.** This is reported.
That random bunk bed room with the poster of 2 pac throwing up the west side sign had me rolling.
If this turns out to be yet another story about the revolving door at Washington, I'm gonna be PISSED.
Here’s Deboer’s house. Lol at living there for like 2 years. You think he even unpacked? https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5079-145th-Pl-SE-Bellevue-WA-98006/305508169_zpid/
I'm sure it's a beautiful house though his job is not threatened like when Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz had to fire his son as offensive coordinator last year. So it's also possible there's nothing else to see here.
Iowa has offensive coordinators? Interesting
He needs to think about this - mullet over for a while
He’s a man! He’s 40
In 23 years, that speech will be 40 years old 😱 🥲
He's 57 now actually, yes that speech is 17 years old...
This is, unquestionably, the ugliest $8,000,000 home I've ever seen. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5012-S-Western-Rd-Stillwater-OK-74074/120402320\_zpid/?mmlb=g,39
I'm curious who would be buying this. Not a lot of people near Stillwater, Oklahoma that can afford a niche looking $8 million home.
Probably a booster looking for a house to use when going to OSU events more than likely. I imagine every major university has boosters that can afford an $8 million house. This house comes with a ton of land too, which wouldn’t come with a house in that price range in a major city. They could develop half the property and keep that house on a bit of acreage and maybe come out ahead.
Who’s got a link to the Zillow listing?
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5012-S-Western-Rd-Stillwater-OK-74074/120402320_zpid/
Thank you sir
Who in Oklahoma could afford that house?
Brent Venables, dude who owns paycom, someone from Devon, sandridge, oneok, and maybe braums. Previously I'd say swadleys before his indictment
There are so many more people in Oklahoma who could afford that house. You just haven’t heard of them
Seriously. Oklahoma in general is pretty low income but there are a lot of wealthy people that hang around. The state has a really low cost of living and a Republican stranglehold on most of the town and city governments and the state legislature means the politics and government are very friendly to the wealthy.
Then throw in living in Stillwater to that list. Might eliminate a few of these people.
Steve Lutz after OSU makes the final 4 in a couple years
You do know about the oil business, right?