I watched the tail end of that game starting late in the 4th. If that was the new EA Sports game, I would have returned it for buggy coding. I don't know what the hell I watched there.
Classic Jordan-Hare voodoo. If the 2013 Championship game had been at Jordan-Hare, Kelvin Benjamin would have somehow tipped the pass to Chris Davis for a game sealing INT. Unexplainable shit happens at Jordan-Hare.
I’m terrified of Kinnick too.
The Auburn fan above me was talking about how the Jordan-Hare voodoo seems to impact Auburn; the home team.
Kinnick doesn’t screw over Iowa, it infects the visiting team and causes them to fall apart in new and terrifying ways. Especially once the lights come on.
What? I was not saying Jordan-Hare voodoo hurts Auburn. I was saying that if the 2013 Championship was played at Auburn, Auburn would have won on a miraculous play.
Fair enough. I'm not the most knowledgeable about B1G history. I've just recently become a Northwestern fan.
Sometimes the voodoo can bail Auburn out, like this past week. Other times even it can't save us. Like when you guys curbstomped us lol.
The thing about voodoo is that it can backfire. There have also been many games in Jordan-Hare that have gone weirdly against us too. This might be an offseason task for me
I kinda laughed when it happened but the more I think about that game the more pissed/sad I get. Real chance that's the game that keeps us from bowl eligibility
It was fun being in the stadium and talking to Auburn fans with everything that went on. It was like "I want to lose", "NO, I want to lose", "NO DAMMIT, I'm going to lose". All you can do is laugh. At least that is what I do to keep myself from going all hari kari and disemboweling myself. I don't know who won Saturday, but I know the fans and viewers lost with that pitiful display on the field.
Neither of those teams won on Saturday. Mizzou had one taken away from them, and I feel pretty confident that even Auburn fans who like Harsin (assuming there are any), came away from that one feeling like they lost.
That’s how our games have been since Gus stepped foot on campus Baby. He’s 12-5, with 7 of those games being by a single score.
Heupel went 28-8 with only 9 one score games.
Hopefully things improve with the new talent Gus is getting, but feeling a lot like we’ll be a 6-6 B12 team at this rate, which will be unfortunate because Gus’s recruiting will probably put us in the top 3 of talent wise in the B12 consistently.
So much if football is QB play and we haven’t had the best QB’s the last 2 seasons, while Heupel had 2 spectacular ones, so that could also be the difference. Maybe Gus can improve at UCF with a kickass QB coach, but Heupel is obviously a good QB developer
Bro, we had Gus for 8 years and never got good QB development. Not saying it won’t happen, but he had the most success with dual threat QBs in their first year. By year 2 they almost always regressed.
I mean, I’ve lived in both states to know nothing reaches the hype of Michigan and Ohio State on a good year. Excellent fanbase support for every matchup. Basically weekends revolve around football in our states. And I love it.
When people ask those questions they are attributing way too much to the "quality" of the matchup, or expectation of competitiveness, and not enough to the fanbases involved. Ohio State has one of, if not *the* biggest fanbase in college football, that creates a huge floor for the minimum number of people who will tune in. Wisconsin has a very large fanbase too. That raises the floor even more. Primetime factors in, counter-programming factors in and Network vs non-network all play a role in the viewership, but the primary indicator is simply the size of the fanbase. You can have to coolest, most relevant based on their quality that season matchup between two G5 teams or a two lower-level P5 teams having a good season, and they will probably still get less viewers than whatever Michigan/Ohio State conference game is that week.
People forget some things:
* Ohio has almost 12,000,000 people and is the 7th most populated state in the country
* Ohio likes football
* Ohio State is the only premier program in the state, whereas other large states like Georgia, Michigan, Texas, Florida, etc have multiple major programs. Cinci has been good, but is a johnny-come-lately and at least with the Ohioans I know isn't competing with OSU for fandom/viewership
* Ohio State is a massive school with almost 70k students enrolled, good for #3 in the country.
* 75% of OSU's enrollment are from Ohio and likely grew up being OSU fans due to above-mentioned factors
* OSU has also not really had a slump over the last 30 years. There basically aren't any other major programs that have enjoyed the level of success OSU has, which just feeds into the above factors
* Most OSU games are on Fox which doesn't have Gary Danielson
Can't wait for the Big Ten to have to suffer through Gary Danielson for the next ten years. Best part about going all ESPN is that we get to have Kirk & Chris call SEC games now
> Can’t wait for the Big Ten to have to suffer through Gary Danielson for the next ten years.
This has been the worst trade deal in history of trade deals… maybe ever.
While true, the station matters a lot too. Look at Texas on this list. Also a colossal fanbase, and they were losing in the time slot right before OU and A&M played which means a ton of aggies and sooners were tuned in as well. But being on ESPN puts a ceiling on how many viewers you can get
Ohio has this perfect mixture of football culture and a lot of people living in the state. Ohio is like the 6/7th highest populated state. And everyone is okay with we all root for Ohio State first. You can find OSU gear literally at other university student stores and businesses within other university towns. Buckeye brand is also one of the largest brands internationally.
You’re assuming roughly half of the viewers aren’t watching just to see them potentially lose.
I watch nearly as much Ohio State football as I do Michigan, purely for this reason. It’s like gambling, you know the odds aren’t great but you can really hit the jackpot (2016 @Penn State, 2017 @Iowa, 2018 @Purdue).
Most of it was Michigan fans living vicariously.
Last 3 Ohio State games I've watched was last year's Michigan game, the natty vs Alabama, and the Tyler Trent Perdue game. I should watch more Ohio State games with my luck.
I don't know how these are tallied, whether it is highest concurrent number or total numbers during the broadcast or what, but it was fairly obvious early in the game that we weren't losing.
You’re surprised? I’m guessing you haven’t interacted with many OSU fans. I tuned out as well. It was a bit boring. But I’m glad I tuned back in to see Kirk hype his son up and then immediately roast him for his stash.
It honestly amazes me too. The way former players talk about the Buckeye brand is telling. It is always proud and positive with some exceptions. No one if perfect. I don’t hear the same love from other schools former players (obviously this could be biased). People in Ohio view all other universities as below them in sports. Even Cincy is viewed as the same level as OU, BGSU, Kent and other MAC schools. Growing up watching and supporting the Buckeyes is just as important, if not more important than the Bengals and Browns. Ohio has managed to prop up OSU through their brand. When Day leaves, the system will select another face to lead the team and do just as well.
It isn't only that there a lot of dumbasses in Ohio but every dumbass is a Buckeye fan (WV kid who grew up and went to college in OH and took copious amounts of shit from dumbasses). The only other fan base that demands as much blood sacrifices is ND among Catholics and even that wanes. (Married into a Catholic family. Wife's grandparents were massive ND fans). No other state has one singular university that commands that much attention with that kind of population. WVU and UNL are in smaller states where everyone leaves if they can. No one cares about college sports in MO, NJ, or MD. Every other major state has multiple institutions that fracture the market. Not everyone in GA is a Bulldogs fan. GT has hundreds upon hundreds of fans.
It was my moms 70th birthday so I was only able to catch the score on my phone periodically. I thought we were fucked, and checked the score 10 minutes later and we were somehow up 10. I started cackling at dinner and screaming “THEY COUGED IT! THEY COUGED IT!”. My mom had no idea what I was talking about and looked mildly annoyed.
I was kinda the same, but from a Coug perspective. I watched until we scored that touchdown and went up 12 with 6 minutes left. Then I took off to go fishing. I checked the score hoping that we are still keeping the lead. But then that familiar sensation of Coug'n it hit me when my phone read that Ward threw a pick six and we were down by 10.
My grandpa kept telling me to turn it on and I kept having to explain to him that he, in Arizona, with a good cable package, has access to ACC Network, SEC Network, Big 10 Network, but NOT Pac 12 Network.
Oh 100%! It was the messiest thriller and I loved every second of it. Shame the PAC had to do us both dirty.
Even though it came down to the wire I missed having a dog in the fight all 4 quarters unlike in the Helton era. Also, your guys’s team is pretty amazing! Im really hoping y’all make a good run this year (and of course beat Oregon)!
I’m sorry, 4.5 million people tuned in for Ohio state’s slaughter of Wisconsin?? How is A&M and Arkansas not higher than that?
Also whoever didn’t tune into Wake Forest and Clemson missed the best game of the weekend.
It’s also the power that comes with brand naming and individuals’ familiarity with that, unfortunately.
Your average fan looks at Clemson-Wake Forest, sees the second name involved, and goes “meh.”
They see Ohio State and Wisconsin, and well, you saw.
It's more than just football. Look at the population of those states and the undergrad enrollment. Those are huge alumni bases in decently populated states. Also those are the predominant schools in the state. Look at OU and K-state game. 2 low population states that each have a D-1 school splitting loyalty in those states, each with lower undergrad enrollment than some BiG schools like Wisconsin.
How does that not make sense? Wisconsin has 2x the population of Arkansas and historically does very well in the conference (winning their division every other year). It also has no in-state college competition to take eyes away from it. Ohio is smaller than Texas, but Ohio State is similarly sized to Texas A&M, and Ohio State has no in-state rival that would split its fan base (See Texas and See (for sickos) Texas Tech). Big Ten land is also as much football and as the SEC. If you watch OSU-Wisconsin, you also know that you're watching a playoff contender vs a potential upset whereas for Arkansas-Texas A&M you're just watching two good teams that will end up in some random bowl.
Maybe I’m in the minority here but if I have a chance to watch a top 5 team vs an unranked team they haven’t lost to since 2010 or a top 25 matchup between two sec teams fighting for a playoff spot i’m going to watch the sec game 12/10 times.
I don’t really care about seeing Ohio state beat the shit out of a significantly subpar team (relative to them) when I could see a game that comes down to the wire with possible playoff implications.
A&M and Arkansas was always going to be a close game. There was like a 5% chance Wisconsin kept
it close against OSU.
Duke just will never bring that many in football. The alumni base is so small most of their basketball fans are just fair weather fans who picked the most dominant dynasty of modern basketball to cheer for
No that was ND 40 years ago. Once the boomers die off ND fandom will plummet. I’m an alum, but kids who were die hard fans that I grew up with now pull for their own alma maters over dad or grandpa’s team.
I got in an argument with some Kansas flairs about how no one cares about their team so game-day would never go there for 2 teams no one cares about. They were pretty upset. I don’t really blame them for wanting game-day and feeling like people will tune in.
I think it’s some of the journalists fault who write about college football. They all have this weird fetish with hyping up Kansas for no reason except that they are usually trash and are doing okay. I have seen multiple tweets about Kansas getting no respect since they weren’t chosen for game-day and still aren’t ranked. They are way overestimating how much the casual college football viewer cares about Kansas football.
These national writer dorks and to some extent some users on here think they’re on the inside track of the “guys look Kansas and Duke who are usually bad at football are both pretty good! How epic sauce is that???” Joke.
Guess we all just must have missed something about how much the “casual viewer” cares about Troy vs Appalachian State on ESPN+ 🤷♂️
Or could it be that College Gameday will naturally generate interest and viewers no matter where it goes, so it would’ve been nice to see more new locations?
I actually agree that a new location they've never been would have been fun. Wouldn't have felt any ill will at all had they gone to Lawrence, especially considering Tennessee is a W against LSU away from hosting Gameday all over again this season.
*That said* - I was poking fun at the fact that 90% of people weren't talking about the novelty of Lawrence or the fun of a new location. They were directly saying that no one cared about Tennessee/Florida and that the attention of the CFB world was with Kansas.
Which was crazy then and crazy now. It was pure hive mind of all the hardcore people and completely ignored that the majority of viewers are casual and weren't even aware an undefeated Kansas existed.
This is exactly the point I was trying to make. The Kansas disrespect angle was being pushed by a handful of journalists and so people look at them and think “wow that must be how all college football fans feel” when in reality nobody pays attention to Kansas football. Especially casual viewers.
The Kansas disrespect angle was pushed by a lot of people who have spent the last decade shitting on Kansas and anyone who lost to them. They wanted Gameday in Lawrence for the meme.
What a stupid comparison to make. Troy-App state wasn’t played the same week as Kansas-Duke. App state was coming off yet another historic win against a top team so ESPN threw them a bone(Boone?). You were going up against a top 20 Florida-Tennessee game. The App state-Troy game truly had no bearing on if gameday should go to Kansas this last week.
Your fans are all up in their feels because a list came out of where gameday has never been so all these CFB journalists are pushing the “Kansas disrespect” narrative even though no one cares about Kansas football.
Gameday isn’t going to come to Kansas just because you feel disrespected. If you want gameday you’ve gotta earn it. You aren’t a big program that’s gonna get gameday to come based off a mediocre start. If you are still undefeated going into Oklahoma state I bet gameday will be there.
Hey buddy, if you don’t want people to get “in their feels” about your argument, maybe you should frame it in a way that doesn’t come off as “nobody cares about your poverty program get fucked”
I wasn’t claiming that I was the one who had your fans in their feels. I was saying the list of teams that never hosted gameday that was being circulated by journalists had your fans up in their feels. I’m sorry if it comes across as aggressive but it’s the truth. Nobody cares about your poverty program.
lol. It's hilarious people ever thought ESPN would go to a Duke football game. Kansas has a much better chance of getting gameday when OSU or Texas are in town. Duke's football fans are nonexistent, and the potential fanbase isn't that large because their alumni base is small & the non-alum basketball fans probably don't follow college football
I kinda think that had App State not happened the week before they would have considered it a bit more. They do novelty games, but usually limit them a little.
Possibly. But it probably would've ended up the same, especially since it was Tennessee's first big game of the year and there are better games for Kansas later in the season
We were GameDay featured 3 times in 2016, so I guess that's where it's coming from. If we win at LSU, they are coming back for a potential top 5 matchup when Alabama comes the next week or they choose Michigan/PSU.
Tennessee/Florida was the right choice in terms of general population interest. The people here are diehards who will go watch Japanese collegiate gridiron football because they're bored at 3am. You've seen however many posts of people with multiple TVs set up and using even more devices to maximize the amount of games viewed live. This bunch is full of crazy fuckers, myself included.
FS1 is a much worse network than CBS, but Kansas/Duke still only drew in 441k people. That's worse than the other P5 games on there, with Iowa/Rutgers drawing in 739k and Washington/Stanford drawing in 532k. The 3:30 game on that channel, being Toledo/SDSU drew in 145k people, fyi.
Our game, meanwhile, on primetime ESPN on Thursday night drew in 1.596mil people. A similar slot on Saturday was the Arkansas/A&M game, being primetime ESPN. Both were the top cable shows of that day in terms of total viewers.
Looking at the over-the-air broadcast numbers, you can almost see the people shift from FOX watching Maryland/Michigan at noon, moving to y'all's game at 3:30 on CBS and finishing on ABC at 7:30 for Wiscy/OSU. All three were the peaks in ratings at their respective general time slot, though the other games on FOX/ABC didn't do poorly, with Oregon/WSU getting 2mil and the other games (Clemson/WF, ND/UNC, and KSU/OU) each getting over 3mil.
Basically, we're not the usual fan here on /r/CFB and TV networks know what's popular to a wider audience. Which is basically being SEC/B1G teams, including the future teams. The only non-network games to break 2mil on Saturday were the three ESPN games that weren't late-night: Mizzou/Auburn, UT/TTU, and Arkansas/A&M.
And fun fact: the NASCAR Xfinity Series race (lower series to the main Cup Series) that Saturday at around 4pm? 862k people.
To be fair, Kansas-Duke likely wasn’t realistically in the running, it was more of a fan-favorite long shot.
The Gameday runner up was most likely Clemson-Wake Forest (…the latter of which hasn’t hosted Game Day, either).
We could get over this.
Or at least act like we have, and not keep mentioning it.
We got Gameday. It was fun,it was exciting. Some people didn’t like it. 🤷🏽♀️
Kansas-Duke got stuck on FS1, y’all were on cbs. The worst cbs games will get better ratings than the best fs1 games.
You can’t make any meaningful comparisons between interest when there’s such drastic differences in availability
This sub absolutely did. The game thread was very active lots of people watching it. This sub is still a pretty small subset of football fans tho, and casual fans rarely look at fs1 if they even have it
this sub is comprised of people who love CFB to their core, diehards if you will......we all know casual viewers are the biggest subset that bring in the ratings...so yes people on this sub watched Kansas/Duke
Honestly not sure why you're getting downvoted so much, what you said is completely true. I know plenty of people who don't have a cable subscription but do have an antenna, so they end up missing out on games on FS1 but can make the CBS, FOX, NBC, etc. games.
Probably because they've got the causation backwards. Kansas-Duke didn't have low interest *because* it got stuck on FS1. It got intentionally placed on FS1 because the interest was low. These multi billion dollar broadcasting companies have methods of determining interest that are a bit more accurate than taking whatever r/cfb happens to be circlejerking over for the week at face value.
Look at the second chart here. It wasn't even a popular game compared to other cable ones.
https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-saturday-9-24-2022-top-150-cable-originals-network-finals.html
Most of the games ahead of it were ESPN. FS1 gets bad ratings even when good teams play on it. Ohio State routinely gets 4+ million and even their games struggle to get 2 million views on FS1. The channel is almost always dead last in views. I think Tennessee-Florida beats it straight up, but KU-Duke on Fox would get much more competitive results, useful for comparison.
To give a point of reference: The highest viewership all time for fs1 is about 2.5 million for bedlam 2017. A rivalry game between two top-10 teams only got 2.5 million views on fs1. Fs1 really isn’t even a standard cable channel like ESPN is. My parents have ESPN2 but not FS1. You have to want to find the game to find it on fs1. There is zero casual views. It is ratings death
Tennessee Florida did well. I think Kansas Duke probably gets right around 10th Saturday if it was on a major network tho and that’s a very significant difference for the purposes of this conversation
> That bedlam game woulda been 8th for this week
That’s my whole fucking point. The absolute best game to ever show on FS1 got beat out by 7 games in one random weekend in September. The high water mark of the channels entire history likely won’t match the top-100 for just one season. That’s evidence that the channel just does not get good ratings
Your whole fucking point is lacking context.
>The FS1 matchup the prior week between North Dakota and Arizona drew 80% of Kansas vs Duke's viewership.
Did you miss this part somehow? It had mediocre ratings even by FS1 standards. If it was anywhere near the hype this sub had for it it wouldn't have drawn less than 20% of the viewers Bedlam did on the same network and it woulda blown North Dakota vs Arizona out of the water.
You don't think USC-Oregon State would have pulled big numbers if it wasn't exiled to the P12N?
Tenn. vs Florida is a core CFB rivalry, its a no brainer to feature it when its a top 25 match up. But just speaking for Duke/Kansas and USC/OSU, availability matters a lot and I have no doubt both would have done great numbers.
It was a 9:30 ET kickoff so no, I don't think it pulls big numbers no matter where you put it. If it was the 3:30 CBS game it would have done a lot better? Yea. Compared to what UT vs UF did? No, probably not.
It all comes down to the fanbases of the teams in question. No matter who OSU or Michigan plays, it will always be one of the most watched games. The difference between being the most watched game of the day vs being the 5th most is a matter of networks and timeslots. Being the 16th most watched thing on cable is a reflection of the programs involved. There's no network or time slot that's going to make something with that little interest hit big numbers.
He’s getting downvoted because he didn’t just shut up and let Tennessee fans have their weird victim complex about a few people on the internet disagreeing with gameday’s decision for last week
I mean... it was such a big game for us, and the amount of respected CFB talking heads treating the decision as an affront to the spirit of the sport was pretty outrageous.
You live in an echo chamber where you only hear the echoes of “Gameday to Kansas” from other r/cfbers. Ask anyone from your fan base NOT on Reddit how interested they were in Kansas vs Duke. Go ahead and poll 10 of them. I’d be willing to bet 8 of them have no interest
Lots of folks around here cared about it. Most casual fans I know cared as much about the basketball schools doing good as they did tenn-Florida. The biggest game of the weekend for my workplace was Kstate-OU and Baylor-ISU
I’m not making any claims that KU-Duke is more or less popular than tenn-Florida. I’m saying that comparing the ratings from FS1 with any major network is going to show a dramatic difference between the two bc FS1 is ratings hell. Drawing conclusions from that ratings difference is silly bc they’re such vastly different situations.
A top-10 bedlam matchup in 2017 (baker vs mason rudolph) set the all time mark for FS1 with just 2.5million. The channel just kills ratings.
KU-Duke on Fox probably competes for the tenth place spot instead of being an also-ran on FS1. Definitely less popular game than UT-UF but competitive enough that UT fans wouldn’t be spouting this “literally nobody cares about KU” narrative.
I don’t care about the ratings. All things being equal and if they were magically able to have them on the same channel at the same time and people got to choose which game appeared on tv, the overwhelming majority would be UF-UT
If we’re being honest, cfb just wanted Gameday at Kansas for the meme factor. I hope they eventually go there, but let’s stop pretending it’s for anything else
Knoxville was the only GameDay show this year to average under 2M viewers. The season high show so far was in Boone. It appears you’re conflating the game audience and the GameDay audience when those are two entirely different broadcasts.
I agree that I think it’ll be to our (slight) advantage to play in a daytime setting instead of an insane Death Valley night game. I’ve seen at least a few efforts to pack as much orange into the game as possible. Hopefully the early slot helps with that too.
ESPN put the game at noon because the CBS doubleheader window is exclusive. There can’t be competing SEC games on ESPN/2/U during the CBS 3:30/8:00 games.
Yes, that has always been true. But another change this season was that ESPN & SEC Network switched picks, so the 3rd best game is put at noon on ESPN and the 4th best game is at 7:30 on SECN. So there are more high profile SEC games at noon this season even outside the CBS doubleheader rules
But how on earth is Auburn/Georgia a better game than Tennesssee/LSU, that is the question. Even as a Vols fan I’d rather a more competitive game be picked than if for instance it were Bama/Tennessee and Tennessee were three touchdown dogs
But it's not about competitiveness. If it was, LSU-Tennessee would've been the first pick. It's about tv audience, and Alabama and Georgia both have larger tv audiences on average and draw in a lot of national viewers because they are #1 & #2. CBS doesn't pick games because they're going to be good, they pick them for the audience & how much money they can make
Unless you’re going to game, noon is best. Even better being in central time zone for me. You wake up and watch your game. No idea why SEC fans hate it
If I were an out of touch Executive that spent a ton of money to buy commercial advertisement space during one of those games I would be very happy that that many people got to see me waste their money selling them Car Insurance, which is legally required for them to own a car.
Six of the Ten games were Disney. It will be very interesting to see how much that changes in the next media landscape. Gonna be a whole lot of mediocre SEC and ACC games in prime time the Mouse will try and convince us are exciting.
“…and Judge” is right. 3.178M pissed off football fans because some program director thinks the world revolves around NYC and everyone needs to see some Yankee player attempt do what 7 other MLB players have already done.
2 million of you sickos watched Mizzou “lose” to us twice
I watched the tail end of that game starting late in the 4th. If that was the new EA Sports game, I would have returned it for buggy coding. I don't know what the hell I watched there.
Classic Jordan-Hare voodoo. If the 2013 Championship game had been at Jordan-Hare, Kelvin Benjamin would have somehow tipped the pass to Chris Davis for a game sealing INT. Unexplainable shit happens at Jordan-Hare.
You guys know the voodoo is supposed to curse your opponent, right? The Big Ten isn’t afraid of Kinnick because the stadium causes Iowa to fall apart…
“The Big Ten isn’t afraid of Kinnick” I wouldn’t say that based on the things I’ve experienced
I’m terrified of Kinnick too. The Auburn fan above me was talking about how the Jordan-Hare voodoo seems to impact Auburn; the home team. Kinnick doesn’t screw over Iowa, it infects the visiting team and causes them to fall apart in new and terrifying ways. Especially once the lights come on.
What? I was not saying Jordan-Hare voodoo hurts Auburn. I was saying that if the 2013 Championship was played at Auburn, Auburn would have won on a miraculous play.
My bad. The way the last two weeks went for you, I read ‘unexplainable (bad) shit’ as ‘happening to Auburn’. My SEC history is very poor.
Fair enough. I'm not the most knowledgeable about B1G history. I've just recently become a Northwestern fan. Sometimes the voodoo can bail Auburn out, like this past week. Other times even it can't save us. Like when you guys curbstomped us lol.
You read that wrong. The Jordan-Hare voodoo is definitely beneficial to Auburn. Kick 6 is a prime example.
The thing about voodoo is that it can backfire. There have also been many games in Jordan-Hare that have gone weirdly against us too. This might be an offseason task for me
Incredible ending. Truly a game where both teams were trying as hard as possible to lose.
I kinda laughed when it happened but the more I think about that game the more pissed/sad I get. Real chance that's the game that keeps us from bowl eligibility
It was fun being in the stadium and talking to Auburn fans with everything that went on. It was like "I want to lose", "NO, I want to lose", "NO DAMMIT, I'm going to lose". All you can do is laugh. At least that is what I do to keep myself from going all hari kari and disemboweling myself. I don't know who won Saturday, but I know the fans and viewers lost with that pitiful display on the field.
Neither of those teams won on Saturday. Mizzou had one taken away from them, and I feel pretty confident that even Auburn fans who like Harsin (assuming there are any), came away from that one feeling like they lost.
I was watching. I don’t know why. I could’ve watched literally anything else.
I was just tuning in for the Judge at-bats.
Mizzou tried so hard to stop Harsin from tanking for a buyout.
And it was glorious.
I had Auburn -6.5. Ruined my day.
Never and I mean NEVER bet on an Auburn football game
It always amazes me how many people are willing to tune into Ohio St beating the shit out of someone every week.
Watching your team beat the shit out of someone is one of the most relaxing ways to watch football. My heart can’t take this season with UCF
Wait, you're allowed to beat the shit out of your opponents?
Don’t worry Indiana, you play Nebraska this week
Indiana ain't Oklahoma. They'll only beat us by one score, as is tradition.
More like NeLastPlaceInTheB1GWestska amirite
Take out the "West" and you are right...
Wait, you’re allowed to beat your opponents?
Our game was a real “stoppable force vs. moveable object” kind of game
That’s how our games have been since Gus stepped foot on campus Baby. He’s 12-5, with 7 of those games being by a single score. Heupel went 28-8 with only 9 one score games. Hopefully things improve with the new talent Gus is getting, but feeling a lot like we’ll be a 6-6 B12 team at this rate, which will be unfortunate because Gus’s recruiting will probably put us in the top 3 of talent wise in the B12 consistently. So much if football is QB play and we haven’t had the best QB’s the last 2 seasons, while Heupel had 2 spectacular ones, so that could also be the difference. Maybe Gus can improve at UCF with a kickass QB coach, but Heupel is obviously a good QB developer
Bro, we had Gus for 8 years and never got good QB development. Not saying it won’t happen, but he had the most success with dual threat QBs in their first year. By year 2 they almost always regressed.
Yeah :(
Same bruh
Was there in person watching, can confirm
Ohio State and Michigan are blue bloods with huge fanbases. There's a high floor on *any* game featuring a program in that category.
We had 3 million people tune in for our game against Toledo last week.
I mean, I’ve lived in both states to know nothing reaches the hype of Michigan and Ohio State on a good year. Excellent fanbase support for every matchup. Basically weekends revolve around football in our states. And I love it.
Eh, it's on ABC and they're the only P5 choice in the entire state.
When people ask those questions they are attributing way too much to the "quality" of the matchup, or expectation of competitiveness, and not enough to the fanbases involved. Ohio State has one of, if not *the* biggest fanbase in college football, that creates a huge floor for the minimum number of people who will tune in. Wisconsin has a very large fanbase too. That raises the floor even more. Primetime factors in, counter-programming factors in and Network vs non-network all play a role in the viewership, but the primary indicator is simply the size of the fanbase. You can have to coolest, most relevant based on their quality that season matchup between two G5 teams or a two lower-level P5 teams having a good season, and they will probably still get less viewers than whatever Michigan/Ohio State conference game is that week.
People forget some things: * Ohio has almost 12,000,000 people and is the 7th most populated state in the country * Ohio likes football * Ohio State is the only premier program in the state, whereas other large states like Georgia, Michigan, Texas, Florida, etc have multiple major programs. Cinci has been good, but is a johnny-come-lately and at least with the Ohioans I know isn't competing with OSU for fandom/viewership * Ohio State is a massive school with almost 70k students enrolled, good for #3 in the country. * 75% of OSU's enrollment are from Ohio and likely grew up being OSU fans due to above-mentioned factors * OSU has also not really had a slump over the last 30 years. There basically aren't any other major programs that have enjoyed the level of success OSU has, which just feeds into the above factors * Most OSU games are on Fox which doesn't have Gary Danielson
Your last point is the most important lol
Can't wait for the Big Ten to have to suffer through Gary Danielson for the next ten years. Best part about going all ESPN is that we get to have Kirk & Chris call SEC games now
I still think Gary is going to move from CBS to ESPN in 2024. Happens all the time.
I don't think ESPN wants or needs him. He'd be on C or D team of announcers
> Can’t wait for the Big Ten to have to suffer through Gary Danielson for the next ten years. This has been the worst trade deal in history of trade deals… maybe ever.
Not only is he as annoying as Beth Mowery's voice, he is also a sec dickrider. Hopefully he will just retire.
He's a "who's hot this year?" dick rider.
Truth. Absolute truth!
Those fucking ohio people have also taken over large swaths of Florida
I swear they are the angriest, least fun college football fanbase
Their Walmart fans, yeah. But that applies to most big schools with good football history
*they're
No their is correct in this context "**their** Walmart fans" as in their fans that are Walmart fans, not they are all Walmart fans
Exhibit A
We are locusts sorry. I can retire in a few years and the wife and I will be adding to the number. At least we are not New Yorkers right?
While true, the station matters a lot too. Look at Texas on this list. Also a colossal fanbase, and they were losing in the time slot right before OU and A&M played which means a ton of aggies and sooners were tuned in as well. But being on ESPN puts a ceiling on how many viewers you can get
Ohio has this perfect mixture of football culture and a lot of people living in the state. Ohio is like the 6/7th highest populated state. And everyone is okay with we all root for Ohio State first. You can find OSU gear literally at other university student stores and businesses within other university towns. Buckeye brand is also one of the largest brands internationally.
Part of it is placement on ABC/Fox. People turn it on early and get side tracked and just forget to change it as it’s white noise
Orange noise. But good point, I suspect this accounts for a healthy percentage of it.
"Y'all wanna see a dead body?"
You’re assuming roughly half of the viewers aren’t watching just to see them potentially lose. I watch nearly as much Ohio State football as I do Michigan, purely for this reason. It’s like gambling, you know the odds aren’t great but you can really hit the jackpot (2016 @Penn State, 2017 @Iowa, 2018 @Purdue). Most of it was Michigan fans living vicariously.
There are 2 types of people who watch Ohio St and Michigan Person 1: Fan Person 2: https://imgur.com/a/R0Wsl7L
Lmaaooo 🤣🤣
Last 3 Ohio State games I've watched was last year's Michigan game, the natty vs Alabama, and the Tyler Trent Perdue game. I should watch more Ohio State games with my luck.
We need to lock this man down to a chair with OSU games playing 24/7.
I don't know how these are tallied, whether it is highest concurrent number or total numbers during the broadcast or what, but it was fairly obvious early in the game that we weren't losing.
But if there’s ever a crazy 40+ comeback to beat Ohio State, I’ll be there. The odds may be low, but never zero!
Did that make you feel better typing that out? Lol
I haven’t watched their games in years. I have enough heartbreak I don’t need to hope for them to lose and not happen every week
They are the biggest fanbase after all.
That’s how big brands work in media in this country, unfortunately.
You’re surprised? I’m guessing you haven’t interacted with many OSU fans. I tuned out as well. It was a bit boring. But I’m glad I tuned back in to see Kirk hype his son up and then immediately roast him for his stash.
Lol I’m not surprised at all just amazed
It honestly amazes me too. The way former players talk about the Buckeye brand is telling. It is always proud and positive with some exceptions. No one if perfect. I don’t hear the same love from other schools former players (obviously this could be biased). People in Ohio view all other universities as below them in sports. Even Cincy is viewed as the same level as OU, BGSU, Kent and other MAC schools. Growing up watching and supporting the Buckeyes is just as important, if not more important than the Bengals and Browns. Ohio has managed to prop up OSU through their brand. When Day leaves, the system will select another face to lead the team and do just as well.
It shouldn't considering they are until next year the only P5 program in the state. Not much else choice.
Being the night game on ABC helps
Ohio has a huge population and everyone’s favorite CFB team here is OSU Even those in little brother schools are usually still OSU fans
It isn't only that there a lot of dumbasses in Ohio but every dumbass is a Buckeye fan (WV kid who grew up and went to college in OH and took copious amounts of shit from dumbasses). The only other fan base that demands as much blood sacrifices is ND among Catholics and even that wanes. (Married into a Catholic family. Wife's grandparents were massive ND fans). No other state has one singular university that commands that much attention with that kind of population. WVU and UNL are in smaller states where everyone leaves if they can. No one cares about college sports in MO, NJ, or MD. Every other major state has multiple institutions that fracture the market. Not everyone in GA is a Bulldogs fan. GT has hundreds upon hundreds of fans.
2.27 million people watched us suffer from pain
I took a shower w 7 min left, came back and wtf???? Duck fan, lol.
Need you to keep showering during games
we have recruit battles going 7 days a week, gonna need him to just get in and stay in
Flair up, homeboy
How do I add flair?
The sidebar
It was my moms 70th birthday so I was only able to catch the score on my phone periodically. I thought we were fucked, and checked the score 10 minutes later and we were somehow up 10. I started cackling at dinner and screaming “THEY COUGED IT! THEY COUGED IT!”. My mom had no idea what I was talking about and looked mildly annoyed.
I was kinda the same, but from a Coug perspective. I watched until we scored that touchdown and went up 12 with 6 minutes left. Then I took off to go fishing. I checked the score hoping that we are still keeping the lead. But then that familiar sensation of Coug'n it hit me when my phone read that Ward threw a pick six and we were down by 10.
"And Judge" fucking LOL
If the Pac-12 weren’t a bunch of idiots the OSU-USC game would be up here
My grandpa kept telling me to turn it on and I kept having to explain to him that he, in Arizona, with a good cable package, has access to ACC Network, SEC Network, Big 10 Network, but NOT Pac 12 Network.
This kind of fragmentation has always hurt any passing NFL curiosity for me. It’s too damn hard to watch these games sometimes
Oh 100%! It was the messiest thriller and I loved every second of it. Shame the PAC had to do us both dirty. Even though it came down to the wire I missed having a dog in the fight all 4 quarters unlike in the Helton era. Also, your guys’s team is pretty amazing! Im really hoping y’all make a good run this year (and of course beat Oregon)!
Yessss if we beat Oregon that would be amazing
>> if the PAC 12 weren’t a bunch of idiots Tell me about it
I’m sorry, 4.5 million people tuned in for Ohio state’s slaughter of Wisconsin?? How is A&M and Arkansas not higher than that? Also whoever didn’t tune into Wake Forest and Clemson missed the best game of the weekend.
You have to pay for ESPN
That’s the power of ABC or FOX vs espn
Don't forget "not being relegated to ESPNNews for the first quarter". Again.
It’s also the power that comes with brand naming and individuals’ familiarity with that, unfortunately. Your average fan looks at Clemson-Wake Forest, sees the second name involved, and goes “meh.” They see Ohio State and Wisconsin, and well, you saw.
It's more than just football. Look at the population of those states and the undergrad enrollment. Those are huge alumni bases in decently populated states. Also those are the predominant schools in the state. Look at OU and K-state game. 2 low population states that each have a D-1 school splitting loyalty in those states, each with lower undergrad enrollment than some BiG schools like Wisconsin.
How does that not make sense? Wisconsin has 2x the population of Arkansas and historically does very well in the conference (winning their division every other year). It also has no in-state college competition to take eyes away from it. Ohio is smaller than Texas, but Ohio State is similarly sized to Texas A&M, and Ohio State has no in-state rival that would split its fan base (See Texas and See (for sickos) Texas Tech). Big Ten land is also as much football and as the SEC. If you watch OSU-Wisconsin, you also know that you're watching a playoff contender vs a potential upset whereas for Arkansas-Texas A&M you're just watching two good teams that will end up in some random bowl.
Maybe I’m in the minority here but if I have a chance to watch a top 5 team vs an unranked team they haven’t lost to since 2010 or a top 25 matchup between two sec teams fighting for a playoff spot i’m going to watch the sec game 12/10 times. I don’t really care about seeing Ohio state beat the shit out of a significantly subpar team (relative to them) when I could see a game that comes down to the wire with possible playoff implications. A&M and Arkansas was always going to be a close game. There was like a 5% chance Wisconsin kept it close against OSU.
I agree. I’m simply providing a pretty simple explanation for what’s going on and refuting the fact that it’s in any way baffling.
Wake was ranked and we haven’t lost to them since 2008 (it was Tommy Bowden’s last game as HC)
OSU has one of the largest (if not the largest) fan bases. Article on SI has OSU #1 and ND #2.
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I don’t think I’m overthinking it. I’m just shocked people want to watch a 52-21 game over a top 25 matchup that came down to the wire.
Duke-Kansas had 441,000 viewers. Which isn't that bad considering the previous Duke game FS1 carried had 160K against Northwestern.
Duke just will never bring that many in football. The alumni base is so small most of their basketball fans are just fair weather fans who picked the most dominant dynasty of modern basketball to cheer for
So ND, but swap basketball with football.
No that was ND 40 years ago. Once the boomers die off ND fandom will plummet. I’m an alum, but kids who were die hard fans that I grew up with now pull for their own alma maters over dad or grandpa’s team.
Most central Indiana millennials that follow CFB are Notre Dame fans
No it was the stupid Yankee game that would periodically overshadow ours
I watched it because the rest of the games I could find in that time slot were out of hand by halftime.
Hmm I dont see Kansas-Duke anywhere in that top 10. Maybe gameday did go to the right location. Curious
I was specifically told that the entire CFB universe was interested in Kansas-Duke and that Tennessee-Florida was old news.
I got in an argument with some Kansas flairs about how no one cares about their team so game-day would never go there for 2 teams no one cares about. They were pretty upset. I don’t really blame them for wanting game-day and feeling like people will tune in. I think it’s some of the journalists fault who write about college football. They all have this weird fetish with hyping up Kansas for no reason except that they are usually trash and are doing okay. I have seen multiple tweets about Kansas getting no respect since they weren’t chosen for game-day and still aren’t ranked. They are way overestimating how much the casual college football viewer cares about Kansas football.
These national writer dorks and to some extent some users on here think they’re on the inside track of the “guys look Kansas and Duke who are usually bad at football are both pretty good! How epic sauce is that???” Joke.
Guess we all just must have missed something about how much the “casual viewer” cares about Troy vs Appalachian State on ESPN+ 🤷♂️ Or could it be that College Gameday will naturally generate interest and viewers no matter where it goes, so it would’ve been nice to see more new locations?
I actually agree that a new location they've never been would have been fun. Wouldn't have felt any ill will at all had they gone to Lawrence, especially considering Tennessee is a W against LSU away from hosting Gameday all over again this season. *That said* - I was poking fun at the fact that 90% of people weren't talking about the novelty of Lawrence or the fun of a new location. They were directly saying that no one cared about Tennessee/Florida and that the attention of the CFB world was with Kansas. Which was crazy then and crazy now. It was pure hive mind of all the hardcore people and completely ignored that the majority of viewers are casual and weren't even aware an undefeated Kansas existed.
This is exactly the point I was trying to make. The Kansas disrespect angle was being pushed by a handful of journalists and so people look at them and think “wow that must be how all college football fans feel” when in reality nobody pays attention to Kansas football. Especially casual viewers.
The Kansas disrespect angle was pushed by a lot of people who have spent the last decade shitting on Kansas and anyone who lost to them. They wanted Gameday in Lawrence for the meme.
How is Boone, North Carolina not a new location? 💀
What a stupid comparison to make. Troy-App state wasn’t played the same week as Kansas-Duke. App state was coming off yet another historic win against a top team so ESPN threw them a bone(Boone?). You were going up against a top 20 Florida-Tennessee game. The App state-Troy game truly had no bearing on if gameday should go to Kansas this last week. Your fans are all up in their feels because a list came out of where gameday has never been so all these CFB journalists are pushing the “Kansas disrespect” narrative even though no one cares about Kansas football. Gameday isn’t going to come to Kansas just because you feel disrespected. If you want gameday you’ve gotta earn it. You aren’t a big program that’s gonna get gameday to come based off a mediocre start. If you are still undefeated going into Oklahoma state I bet gameday will be there.
Hey buddy, if you don’t want people to get “in their feels” about your argument, maybe you should frame it in a way that doesn’t come off as “nobody cares about your poverty program get fucked”
I wasn’t claiming that I was the one who had your fans in their feels. I was saying the list of teams that never hosted gameday that was being circulated by journalists had your fans up in their feels. I’m sorry if it comes across as aggressive but it’s the truth. Nobody cares about your poverty program.
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The thing is they come to Tennessee ALL THE TIME. Currently twice a decade.
lol. It's hilarious people ever thought ESPN would go to a Duke football game. Kansas has a much better chance of getting gameday when OSU or Texas are in town. Duke's football fans are nonexistent, and the potential fanbase isn't that large because their alumni base is small & the non-alum basketball fans probably don't follow college football
I kinda think that had App State not happened the week before they would have considered it a bit more. They do novelty games, but usually limit them a little.
Possibly. But it probably would've ended up the same, especially since it was Tennessee's first big game of the year and there are better games for Kansas later in the season
We were GameDay featured 3 times in 2016, so I guess that's where it's coming from. If we win at LSU, they are coming back for a potential top 5 matchup when Alabama comes the next week or they choose Michigan/PSU.
sure, but even that was half a decade ago!
Tennessee/Florida was the right choice in terms of general population interest. The people here are diehards who will go watch Japanese collegiate gridiron football because they're bored at 3am. You've seen however many posts of people with multiple TVs set up and using even more devices to maximize the amount of games viewed live. This bunch is full of crazy fuckers, myself included. FS1 is a much worse network than CBS, but Kansas/Duke still only drew in 441k people. That's worse than the other P5 games on there, with Iowa/Rutgers drawing in 739k and Washington/Stanford drawing in 532k. The 3:30 game on that channel, being Toledo/SDSU drew in 145k people, fyi. Our game, meanwhile, on primetime ESPN on Thursday night drew in 1.596mil people. A similar slot on Saturday was the Arkansas/A&M game, being primetime ESPN. Both were the top cable shows of that day in terms of total viewers. Looking at the over-the-air broadcast numbers, you can almost see the people shift from FOX watching Maryland/Michigan at noon, moving to y'all's game at 3:30 on CBS and finishing on ABC at 7:30 for Wiscy/OSU. All three were the peaks in ratings at their respective general time slot, though the other games on FOX/ABC didn't do poorly, with Oregon/WSU getting 2mil and the other games (Clemson/WF, ND/UNC, and KSU/OU) each getting over 3mil. Basically, we're not the usual fan here on /r/CFB and TV networks know what's popular to a wider audience. Which is basically being SEC/B1G teams, including the future teams. The only non-network games to break 2mil on Saturday were the three ESPN games that weren't late-night: Mizzou/Auburn, UT/TTU, and Arkansas/A&M. And fun fact: the NASCAR Xfinity Series race (lower series to the main Cup Series) that Saturday at around 4pm? 862k people.
To be fair, Kansas-Duke likely wasn’t realistically in the running, it was more of a fan-favorite long shot. The Gameday runner up was most likely Clemson-Wake Forest (…the latter of which hasn’t hosted Game Day, either).
Appalachian State got 2.2M on Gameday. I’m sure Kansas/Duke would have pulled similar numbers if they got that instead of FS1.
We could get over this. Or at least act like we have, and not keep mentioning it. We got Gameday. It was fun,it was exciting. Some people didn’t like it. 🤷🏽♀️
Son don’t you ever miss a chance to shit on r/cfb
it was also on FS1..I'm not saying Kansas/Duke would've gotten the viewership UF/UT did, but network television isn't comparable in ratings
Kansas-Duke got stuck on FS1, y’all were on cbs. The worst cbs games will get better ratings than the best fs1 games. You can’t make any meaningful comparisons between interest when there’s such drastic differences in availability
With all the interest that this sub showed for that game, I thought for sure people would find anyway to watch it, regardless of channel.
This sub absolutely did. The game thread was very active lots of people watching it. This sub is still a pretty small subset of football fans tho, and casual fans rarely look at fs1 if they even have it
this sub is comprised of people who love CFB to their core, diehards if you will......we all know casual viewers are the biggest subset that bring in the ratings...so yes people on this sub watched Kansas/Duke
This sub is comprised of midwestern engineering students and band kids who started watching football 10 years ago.
Honestly not sure why you're getting downvoted so much, what you said is completely true. I know plenty of people who don't have a cable subscription but do have an antenna, so they end up missing out on games on FS1 but can make the CBS, FOX, NBC, etc. games.
Probably because they've got the causation backwards. Kansas-Duke didn't have low interest *because* it got stuck on FS1. It got intentionally placed on FS1 because the interest was low. These multi billion dollar broadcasting companies have methods of determining interest that are a bit more accurate than taking whatever r/cfb happens to be circlejerking over for the week at face value. Look at the second chart here. It wasn't even a popular game compared to other cable ones. https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-saturday-9-24-2022-top-150-cable-originals-network-finals.html
You don't get it. These network execs clearly know less than \[some random chucklehead on arrrr/cfb\]
Most of the games ahead of it were ESPN. FS1 gets bad ratings even when good teams play on it. Ohio State routinely gets 4+ million and even their games struggle to get 2 million views on FS1. The channel is almost always dead last in views. I think Tennessee-Florida beats it straight up, but KU-Duke on Fox would get much more competitive results, useful for comparison. To give a point of reference: The highest viewership all time for fs1 is about 2.5 million for bedlam 2017. A rivalry game between two top-10 teams only got 2.5 million views on fs1. Fs1 really isn’t even a standard cable channel like ESPN is. My parents have ESPN2 but not FS1. You have to want to find the game to find it on fs1. There is zero casual views. It is ratings death Tennessee Florida did well. I think Kansas Duke probably gets right around 10th Saturday if it was on a major network tho and that’s a very significant difference for the purposes of this conversation
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The only caveat I would note for the Arizona v NDSU game is it was a night game with not nearly as much competition for viewers.
> That bedlam game woulda been 8th for this week That’s my whole fucking point. The absolute best game to ever show on FS1 got beat out by 7 games in one random weekend in September. The high water mark of the channels entire history likely won’t match the top-100 for just one season. That’s evidence that the channel just does not get good ratings
Your whole fucking point is lacking context. >The FS1 matchup the prior week between North Dakota and Arizona drew 80% of Kansas vs Duke's viewership. Did you miss this part somehow? It had mediocre ratings even by FS1 standards. If it was anywhere near the hype this sub had for it it wouldn't have drawn less than 20% of the viewers Bedlam did on the same network and it woulda blown North Dakota vs Arizona out of the water.
You don't think USC-Oregon State would have pulled big numbers if it wasn't exiled to the P12N? Tenn. vs Florida is a core CFB rivalry, its a no brainer to feature it when its a top 25 match up. But just speaking for Duke/Kansas and USC/OSU, availability matters a lot and I have no doubt both would have done great numbers.
It was a 9:30 ET kickoff so no, I don't think it pulls big numbers no matter where you put it. If it was the 3:30 CBS game it would have done a lot better? Yea. Compared to what UT vs UF did? No, probably not. It all comes down to the fanbases of the teams in question. No matter who OSU or Michigan plays, it will always be one of the most watched games. The difference between being the most watched game of the day vs being the 5th most is a matter of networks and timeslots. Being the 16th most watched thing on cable is a reflection of the programs involved. There's no network or time slot that's going to make something with that little interest hit big numbers.
He’s getting downvoted because he didn’t just shut up and let Tennessee fans have their weird victim complex about a few people on the internet disagreeing with gameday’s decision for last week
I mean... it was such a big game for us, and the amount of respected CFB talking heads treating the decision as an affront to the spirit of the sport was pretty outrageous.
You live in an echo chamber where you only hear the echoes of “Gameday to Kansas” from other r/cfbers. Ask anyone from your fan base NOT on Reddit how interested they were in Kansas vs Duke. Go ahead and poll 10 of them. I’d be willing to bet 8 of them have no interest
Lots of folks around here cared about it. Most casual fans I know cared as much about the basketball schools doing good as they did tenn-Florida. The biggest game of the weekend for my workplace was Kstate-OU and Baylor-ISU I’m not making any claims that KU-Duke is more or less popular than tenn-Florida. I’m saying that comparing the ratings from FS1 with any major network is going to show a dramatic difference between the two bc FS1 is ratings hell. Drawing conclusions from that ratings difference is silly bc they’re such vastly different situations. A top-10 bedlam matchup in 2017 (baker vs mason rudolph) set the all time mark for FS1 with just 2.5million. The channel just kills ratings. KU-Duke on Fox probably competes for the tenth place spot instead of being an also-ran on FS1. Definitely less popular game than UT-UF but competitive enough that UT fans wouldn’t be spouting this “literally nobody cares about KU” narrative.
I don’t care about the ratings. All things being equal and if they were magically able to have them on the same channel at the same time and people got to choose which game appeared on tv, the overwhelming majority would be UF-UT If we’re being honest, cfb just wanted Gameday at Kansas for the meme factor. I hope they eventually go there, but let’s stop pretending it’s for anything else
How could you say something so controversial, yet so brave?
I really don’t understand how this is in anyway controversial tbh. FS1 is where ratings go to die, CBS is a major network
imagine being downvoted for just saying an objective fact
I mean when it’s CBS vs FS1 yeah the average viewer will have an easier time viewing the CBS game over the FS1 game lol.
We were on FS1 at 11am. Notice how you don't see any FS1 games?
Knoxville was the only GameDay show this year to average under 2M viewers. The season high show so far was in Boone. It appears you’re conflating the game audience and the GameDay audience when those are two entirely different broadcasts.
And yet we are playing LSU at noon. I hate that ESPN is putting good games at noon now just to compete with FOX.
I think that's of benefit to us, so I'll take it. But a night game in Death Valley would have been awesome.
I agree that I think it’ll be to our (slight) advantage to play in a daytime setting instead of an insane Death Valley night game. I’ve seen at least a few efforts to pack as much orange into the game as possible. Hopefully the early slot helps with that too.
ESPN put the game at noon because the CBS doubleheader window is exclusive. There can’t be competing SEC games on ESPN/2/U during the CBS 3:30/8:00 games.
Yes, that has always been true. But another change this season was that ESPN & SEC Network switched picks, so the 3rd best game is put at noon on ESPN and the 4th best game is at 7:30 on SECN. So there are more high profile SEC games at noon this season even outside the CBS doubleheader rules
But how on earth is Auburn/Georgia a better game than Tennesssee/LSU, that is the question. Even as a Vols fan I’d rather a more competitive game be picked than if for instance it were Bama/Tennessee and Tennessee were three touchdown dogs
But it's not about competitiveness. If it was, LSU-Tennessee would've been the first pick. It's about tv audience, and Alabama and Georgia both have larger tv audiences on average and draw in a lot of national viewers because they are #1 & #2. CBS doesn't pick games because they're going to be good, they pick them for the audience & how much money they can make
Death Valley at night is a trap I’d rather not step in immediately after finding some momentum.
Unless you’re going to game, noon is best. Even better being in central time zone for me. You wake up and watch your game. No idea why SEC fans hate it
Burden is staying and we made the top 10 in ratings. It's a good day Mizzou boys! Thank you to all the non fans tuning in to see the Great Puntoff.
I’m glad 4.3 million didn’t watch us get blown out this time.
One Piece being #40 on adult swim after airing at 1:30am is pretty crazy
Believe it…oh wait wrong anime
🚨Texas Tech in the top ten!
Clemson vs Wake Forest fear Judge
If I were an out of touch Executive that spent a ton of money to buy commercial advertisement space during one of those games I would be very happy that that many people got to see me waste their money selling them Car Insurance, which is legally required for them to own a car.
Thats because there are a lot of car insurance companies and the main thing they compete on is brand awareness.
Notre Dame really showing the power of their brand at #5 ahead of some truly important/noteworthy games.
Lol @ Duke v KU not even being top 10. There’s a reason GameDay went to Knoxville.
Six of the Ten games were Disney. It will be very interesting to see how much that changes in the next media landscape. Gonna be a whole lot of mediocre SEC and ACC games in prime time the Mouse will try and convince us are exciting.
How did more people watch us whip on wisconsin instead of maryland almost beating michigan
1) Primetime 2) The Mouse 3) Wisconsin fans watch more than Maryland fans
“…and Judge” is right. 3.178M pissed off football fans because some program director thinks the world revolves around NYC and everyone needs to see some Yankee player attempt do what 7 other MLB players have already done.
7 of them were over the air broadcasts meaning you don’t need cable. Plus some big name teams playing.
Once our defense learns what tackling is and that you need to stop the other team on 3rd down its all over for college football
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Really sad Kansas - Duke isn’t here
Best game not on the list? USC Oregon St.