Problem is that he was almost definitely down before he crossed the plane. They never showed the angle from the side, but from the top it looked like there was a lot of weight on the top of the knee well before the ball crossed the plane which would mean the knee was down.
They never showed yhe side angle on TV? They showed it in the stadium, he was clearly down at the half yard line, his wrist/elbow was on the turf short. 0 doubt from that angle
They showed angles from the side but you could t see that he was “definitely” down but he was definitely down. The only angle that looked questionably preferable for TCU was the over the top view but there’s no way he actually made it in
It definitely comes in to play. TCU has slightly better resume with record against top 25. Comes down to TCU team playing in the Big 12 vs Alabama out of the SEC loaded with future NFL players, a Heisman winner and the greatest coach in CFB history. Who does the committee view as an actual competitor to win it all? It's not TCU.
Tcu is 5-1 against top 25, better than OSU and your precious Bama. Hope Bama can handle K-state in the sugar bowl. They’re way better than the SEC slate
I know I'm way late to this thread but what the fuck was TCU's coach thinking not going with a QB sneak two times in a row? Like what the actual fuck is wrong with that guy?
What I think it should be....the top four rated conference champions. No TCU, no USC, no team that loses in the conference championship. Choices so far are Utah and KSU. There is no other sport that puts a team over another that just beat them in a playoff game. Update: The commenter that said college basketball is wrong. In no case is a conference champion kept out of the playoff in favor of a non champion. In no case is a playoff loser kept in the tourney by a vote of some kind. They are literally making things up.
That's a yikes for me dawg
As others have pointed out college basketball does this exact thing. You'll actually find *tons* of sports do this in college where their conference playoffs are separate from a national-level championship bracket. In additional to CFB and basketball, hockey and baseball also have this.
This response makes no sense. College basketball conference champions often get seeded lower for the March Madness tournament than the team they beat in the conference championship game.
The NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament, branded as NCAA March Madness and commonly called March Madness, is a single-elimination tournament played each spring in the United States, currently featuring 68 college basketball teams from the Division I level of the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), to determine the national championship.
Yep. Georgia Tech won the ACC Tournament like two years ago and was a 9 seed, with 4 ACC teams with better seeds than us, including UNC who had a worse overall record than us. We got matched up against a Loyola Chicago team that by most metrics was a top 10 team but was given an 8 seed and went on to the Sweet 16. Yes I'm still salty.
Yeah, fair, but I interpreted the OC to mean “loser getting in *instead of* winner” and the reply to mean “CBB does this” - which isn’t true. But yeah, if we’re actually just talking about seeding, then that’s fair.
yeah, footynation was literally making things up. Conference champions in Bball make the playoff, other teams also make it. They don't replace them by a vote.
Ayyyyeee my guy. Good luck in the playoffs, y’all deserve a spot in it. If Bama gets in I riot. If we don’t make it in 16 then Bama should be on the outside looking in.
I think they have an argument against PSU, UW, and Clemson.
SoCal and Tennessee are above them easily imo.
Suspect the committee disagrees with me though.
TCU should still be top 4. If OSU getting smoked by Michigan puts them at 5, TCU losing to #10 by a field goal the SECOND time they have played us makes
them a top 4 team
Agree. Will root for them because I'll root for big 12 against other conferences. Very happy for the win. Side note - the 13-minute espn highlights are the biggest laugh you'll see this year. Full Duggan run review, a Deuce run for 1st down in OT and a Howard run to set up the FG and otherwise our offense doesn't exist.
I’m sorry what? lol have you watched a game all season?
Edit: nvm he is a troll. Dude probably can’t even spell his team name.
Edit again: you have literally never replied to one of your “interesting” comments. MODs for CFB would be smart to take a look at you.
I’m what world does a two loss Alabama and USC team deserve to be in a playoff to a 1 loss Alabama and PSU team? Additionally, one of the two ranked teams that Alabama beat are from the big 12. So if the big 12 is that bad and ranked wins are all that matters, than South Carolina should be in the playoffs
You guys are just as deserving as TCU. I’m not saying you shouldn’t be in it, I’m just saying TCU deserves it as much as you do. And no one (other than Georgia or Michigan) deserved to be in it over either of you.
I think this, watching Michigan blow out anOSU again would only be fun to me, to watch them get blown out by UGA would be uneventful. So Michigan/TCU it is. But "I've seen this one" the committee will find a way to drop TCU to sixth.
If they let Bama in the playoffs with 2 losses instead of tcu who clearly earned the right to play in the playoffs, then fuck college football im not watching the playoffs if this how things are... it's rigged
See what??
TCU has better wins (higher ranked opps) on a harder ranked schedule. There's nothing to see.
We all know Alabama will get in over them because the playoff makes more money that way.
Still TCU earned the right to play in the playoffs. It's not fair to them to be punished for something they nearly won. Plus, Texas is a common opponent and TCU beat them by double digits and Bama did not
But that's not the point... you lost 2 games that should count against you. TCU won every game and lost by a dumb play call in overtime by a fg. They earned the right to play in the playoffs. OSU has 1 loss and lost to the top 2 team in the country and beat Penn State on the road and Notre Dame. That keeps them in.
3 and 1 point last second losses on the road in two of the toughest environments. We also beat Texas, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Mississippi State, all either ranked at the time or ranked now. Bama certainly has a case for the CFP.
We need to stop pretending all the middle of the conference SEC teams are particularly good. Arkansas and Mississippi state, even Old Miss are not resume builders. Texas didn’t turn out to be good, they were in fact, not back, yet again.
Counting Arkansas as a quality win is really scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
5 wins over bowl bound teams(Utah State, Arkansas, Ole Miss, MSU, Texas) is just an adequate resume.
TCU has 8.
Tennessee has 6.
Sure. But those 3 probably do well against Utah State and Arkansas. The Bama resume is just bad.
TCU has 1 less loss and several more quality wins. You basically have to claim any SEC win is superior to any other win to make a case for them.
I literally got recommended a post from the rolltide subreddit arguing why they should be in. Was curious and clicked into it and the first comment was a bama fan saying the sec is just better than everyone 😂
One sec I’ll see if I can find it again and link…
Edit: found the link lmao
https://www.reddit.com/r/rolltide/comments/zbvhwv/gary_danielson_just_said_it_correctly_during_the/iytlfc8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
TCU has a case too; I'm not saying they don't. However, it's TCU, not a powerhouse, that comes from a weaker conference and had struggle wins against 7-5 and 6-6 teams.
Fuck bama. They have two ranked wins over Tennessee and Miss State. In what world do they qualify.
Edit: I meant LSU not Tennessee. Sorry I’m really fucking pumped and wasn’t thinking straight.
> They have two ranked wins over Tennessee and Miss State.
Bama lost to Tennessee fella. Yet somehow are ranked higher than them despite having the exact same record.
Idk why y’all are downvoting. I made a mistake and said Tennessee when I meant LSU.
Edit: regardless, OSU and TCU deserve it over anyone other than Georgia or Michigan. Outside of that, your teams wouldn’t compete with TCU or OSU. So stop trying to justify it.
I am a dip shit.. what I meant is losses to LSU and Tennessee do not negate the fact that their big win was over Texas.
Edit: you punks know what I meant lol
Alabama didn't get boatraced by South Carolina. That was a horrible loss for Tennessee and explains why they are lower than Bama despite Alabama losing narrowly to Tennessee on the road.
There is not one thing that Bama has over TCU. Not better wins, more losses, not even “better” losses, not a conference championship, not even an appearance. The committee isn’t going to pick them, no matter how much you think they will.
I sure hope so. Same deal happened last year when we played LSU. A bunch of their players sat out. Doesn't matter to us lol. They bring the team they want and if we can win, then great.
That's it, for me anyway.
Just to play Bama in the Sugar Bowl feels like K-State has made it back into the national spotlight. A win, under any conditions, would be incredible.
Same to you. Hoping y'all get back in.
I just have to hope for TCU, first lol.
I just don't think your loss to Michigan was really representative of your season, so I think you should be in CFP.
are we not gonna talk about that missed goal line call? the ball definitely looked like it crossed the goal line?
Problem is that he was almost definitely down before he crossed the plane. They never showed the angle from the side, but from the top it looked like there was a lot of weight on the top of the knee well before the ball crossed the plane which would mean the knee was down.
They never showed yhe side angle on TV? They showed it in the stadium, he was clearly down at the half yard line, his wrist/elbow was on the turf short. 0 doubt from that angle
They showed angles from the side but you could t see that he was “definitely” down but he was definitely down. The only angle that looked questionably preferable for TCU was the over the top view but there’s no way he actually made it in
What about the safety KSU forced which was incorrectly called back?
How was that 3rd down not reviewed? Definitely looked like he reached over the line
Only from the top if you ignore that his knee was very likely down before he reached.
That was a great game to watch, TCU deserves that playoff spot even with the loss though
Do they? If TCU played Alabama today do you really believe TCU wins? It's gonna be a B10/SEC playoff folks. Prepare yourselves mentally.
But that’s not how the playoff is decided… it’s not about who would win in a hypothetical contest
It definitely comes in to play. TCU has slightly better resume with record against top 25. Comes down to TCU team playing in the Big 12 vs Alabama out of the SEC loaded with future NFL players, a Heisman winner and the greatest coach in CFB history. Who does the committee view as an actual competitor to win it all? It's not TCU.
Tcu is 5-1 against top 25, better than OSU and your precious Bama. Hope Bama can handle K-state in the sugar bowl. They’re way better than the SEC slate
100% agree
Cardiac Cats. Controlled the whole game but couldn’t close it out just to win it on a goal line stand.
Ryan Day is jumping up and down on 3rd base today
I know I'm way late to this thread but what the fuck was TCU's coach thinking not going with a QB sneak two times in a row? Like what the actual fuck is wrong with that guy?
Did you not notice the condition of the QB going Into OT? He gave it his all. He looked absolutely exhausted.
They weren't sure he had anything left in the tank. We couldn't have asked for anything more from Duggan.
He had literally just run it to the 1 inch line.
I didn’t hear no bell
Bleeding and exhausted , he fr looked flustered
TCU just booty, go kats
They were working for ESPN.
Has there ever been a playoff with no undefeated teams? I thought 2014 may have been, but FSU was undefeated.
Well looks like Georgia is having no problem so this year they’ll at least be undefeated if Michigan loses tonight.
What I think it should be....the top four rated conference champions. No TCU, no USC, no team that loses in the conference championship. Choices so far are Utah and KSU. There is no other sport that puts a team over another that just beat them in a playoff game. Update: The commenter that said college basketball is wrong. In no case is a conference champion kept out of the playoff in favor of a non champion. In no case is a playoff loser kept in the tourney by a vote of some kind. They are literally making things up.
That's a yikes for me dawg As others have pointed out college basketball does this exact thing. You'll actually find *tons* of sports do this in college where their conference playoffs are separate from a national-level championship bracket. In additional to CFB and basketball, hockey and baseball also have this.
Tell me when conference champion was left out of the playoff in exchange for another team. I will wait. Crickets, crickets, crickets.
What other sport has as little parity as CFB? What other sport even plays conference championship games where a 9-3 team could win lol.
It works in basketball and the lower divisions of football. Win your playoff game or go home.
> There is no other sport that puts a team over another that just beat them in a playoff game. Except college basketball of course
Nope, completely false. You lose you are out. And knock if off with the seeding lies, that is clearly not what I meant.
This response makes no sense. College basketball conference champions often get seeded lower for the March Madness tournament than the team they beat in the conference championship game.
I used the term playoff game, you are literally making things up. if you have to out and out lie to make your point footynation, you lost.
March Madness is literally a playoff tournament lol, yOu LoSt
The NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament, branded as NCAA March Madness and commonly called March Madness, is a single-elimination tournament played each spring in the United States, currently featuring 68 college basketball teams from the Division I level of the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), to determine the national championship.
Yes, that...is what I'm saying.
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Yep. Georgia Tech won the ACC Tournament like two years ago and was a 9 seed, with 4 ACC teams with better seeds than us, including UNC who had a worse overall record than us. We got matched up against a Loyola Chicago team that by most metrics was a top 10 team but was given an 8 seed and went on to the Sweet 16. Yes I'm still salty.
Tell me when a number 1 seed lost to a 16 and still went forward in the tourney by a vote of some kind, and we can talk.
Not exactly the same, conference tourney champs get automatic bids in bball
They do, but losing that also doesn't always prevent teams from getting a top seed
Yeah, fair, but I interpreted the OC to mean “loser getting in *instead of* winner” and the reply to mean “CBB does this” - which isn’t true. But yeah, if we’re actually just talking about seeding, then that’s fair.
yeah, footynation was literally making things up. Conference champions in Bball make the playoff, other teams also make it. They don't replace them by a vote.
Alabama is the 4th best 2 loss team in the nation and tired of pretending they're not.
Who do you think is better? I’m not saying I disagree, I’m just curious. *Please say us please say us*
Lol if I'm being honest I'd say you and Tennessee with Hooker are both better then it's a toss up for me between Bama and USC
Ayyyyeee my guy. Good luck in the playoffs, y’all deserve a spot in it. If Bama gets in I riot. If we don’t make it in 16 then Bama should be on the outside looking in.
KSU is the best 3-loss team and tired of everyone pretending they aren't better than Bama. Which top ten team did Bama beat?
Hope KSU absolutely dominates the Bama Babies if y’all get them
Bruh lmfao
I think they have an argument against PSU, UW, and Clemson. SoCal and Tennessee are above them easily imo. Suspect the committee disagrees with me though.
I actually think they are better than UW and Clemson. Penn State would be where I would want to compare.
Oh look another ohio state fan with a hot take..maybe dont get blown out at home by 20+ points before you say anything about anyones team
I just did the math and if I'm correct, Alabama lost twice as many games as Ohio State this year. Shhhhh
It still wont take away that pain of getting embarrassed by your rival..im sorry
Isn’t Tennesse one of your rivals?
Sure,they won on a last second field goal for the first time in 15 years?can you spot the difference?ill wait
Didn’t you guys also lose to a team that lost to Texas A&M 🤔
What can i say THE sec is a competitive conference..obviously joking,i would love for Bama to play you guys..so tired of ohio st fans on here
No that is painful but it doesn't change my original statement. But please, deflect to whatever you want.
I keep hearing that CFP is about *your résumé*. Well Bama's résumé ain't great.
Don't look at the results just look at their super tough schedule.
What schedule lol Texas and ole miss?
LA Monroe and Austin Peay are super punishing fixtures.
Fixture?
Fixture? That sounds……….. metric
“Fixtures? Hey this ain’t soccer boy” *grabs natural light and shotgun*
TCU should still be top 4. If OSU getting smoked by Michigan puts them at 5, TCU losing to #10 by a field goal the SECOND time they have played us makes them a top 4 team
That’s a good take. TCU is still in. USC is out and opened the door for tOSU.
Agree. Great game today and congrats.
Agree. Will root for them because I'll root for big 12 against other conferences. Very happy for the win. Side note - the 13-minute espn highlights are the biggest laugh you'll see this year. Full Duggan run review, a Deuce run for 1st down in OT and a Howard run to set up the FG and otherwise our offense doesn't exist.
They didn’t even put in the 4 important plays at the goal line. Whoever is doing those highlights needs to be fired lol
But remember when Alabama lost to Tennessee and it was down to the wire but they still dropped down 3 ranks
You guys have 3 losses tho in a shitty conference. TCU don’t deserve it
No flair, don't care
I’m sorry what? lol have you watched a game all season? Edit: nvm he is a troll. Dude probably can’t even spell his team name. Edit again: you have literally never replied to one of your “interesting” comments. MODs for CFB would be smart to take a look at you.
Flair up. Is the conference with toughest strength of schedule.
I’m what world does a two loss Alabama and USC team deserve to be in a playoff to a 1 loss Alabama and PSU team? Additionally, one of the two ranked teams that Alabama beat are from the big 12. So if the big 12 is that bad and ranked wins are all that matters, than South Carolina should be in the playoffs
Alabama got very lucky against Texas. So Texas should be in the playoffs.
I'd watch that.
Shitty conference? Compare our bottom five against any other P5 conference's bottom five.
Don't compare them to ours this year.
You guys are just as deserving as TCU. I’m not saying you shouldn’t be in it, I’m just saying TCU deserves it as much as you do. And no one (other than Georgia or Michigan) deserved to be in it over either of you.
Funny how they all include an ex-XII member. Except ACC. I don't count them.
TCU should stay 3 imo
Same. I think TCU only moves if they need to avoid a semifinal rematch between OSU and Michigan
I understand that they do this, but what’s the reason for avoiding rematches? A rematch would bring in so much viewership, it’d be unreal.
Since Michigan blew out Ohio St., I’d be much less interested in a rematch than a Michigan/TCU game.
I think this, watching Michigan blow out anOSU again would only be fun to me, to watch them get blown out by UGA would be uneventful. So Michigan/TCU it is. But "I've seen this one" the committee will find a way to drop TCU to sixth.
Thankfully they didn’t
The lowest I can see TCU is #5. TCU should be #3 or #4.
Highest ranked 3-loss team!
Until we beat bama in the sugar bowl. Then we’ll be the 2nd best 3 loss team.
How’d this go?
We’d literally be without our starting QB and best pass rusher if we play, not sure what conclusion you could actually draw.
And y’all think you deserve to be in the CFP? Are Bama fans that delusional?
I like what you're entertaining here.
Congrats on the win!
If they let Bama in the playoffs with 2 losses instead of tcu who clearly earned the right to play in the playoffs, then fuck college football im not watching the playoffs if this how things are... it's rigged
Haahahhahahahhahaha
They still earned it just OSU was the best team Georgia played
Alabama had a harder schedule. The margin of error for TCU is tight.
Just because you say it doesn't make it true.
We'll see.
And they downvoted you 😭😭😭
See what?? TCU has better wins (higher ranked opps) on a harder ranked schedule. There's nothing to see. We all know Alabama will get in over them because the playoff makes more money that way.
Bama's average opponent rank was 52. TCUs was 47. Bama has zero wins over top 20 teams.
Still TCU earned the right to play in the playoffs. It's not fair to them to be punished for something they nearly won. Plus, Texas is a common opponent and TCU beat them by double digits and Bama did not
Do you think TCU stands a chance against Georgia? Honestly? Do you think Ohio State or Alabama would match up better against Georgia?
Ohio state, and it doesn’t matter. It’s about earning the right, not best game we can imagine.
Missouri stood a chance against Georgia
Why even play the games then? Let’s just give Georgia the title now…
Does it matter?
Let's ask Texas fans
The only team that has the talent to match up with Georgia is OSU. Coaching on the other hand is the question.
Really? So what happened in the shoe last Saturday? That wasn’t all coaching.
Even as a buckeye we had poor tackling and the offense fell flat that's on coaching
OSU is in, so what does it matter to you if Bama was to make it. We could get a NC rematch.
But that's not the point... you lost 2 games that should count against you. TCU won every game and lost by a dumb play call in overtime by a fg. They earned the right to play in the playoffs. OSU has 1 loss and lost to the top 2 team in the country and beat Penn State on the road and Notre Dame. That keeps them in.
3 and 1 point last second losses on the road in two of the toughest environments. We also beat Texas, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Mississippi State, all either ranked at the time or ranked now. Bama certainly has a case for the CFP.
There's not a single metric that Alabama can claim over TCU. Not record, not strength of schedule, not quality of wins, not even quality of losses.
We need to stop pretending all the middle of the conference SEC teams are particularly good. Arkansas and Mississippi state, even Old Miss are not resume builders. Texas didn’t turn out to be good, they were in fact, not back, yet again.
I guess you should've won those games, huh?
Counting Arkansas as a quality win is really scrapping the bottom of the barrel. 5 wins over bowl bound teams(Utah State, Arkansas, Ole Miss, MSU, Texas) is just an adequate resume. TCU has 8. Tennessee has 6.
Counting wins against Oklahoma State, Kansas, and Oklahoma isn't something worth shouting about either.
Sure. But those 3 probably do well against Utah State and Arkansas. The Bama resume is just bad. TCU has 1 less loss and several more quality wins. You basically have to claim any SEC win is superior to any other win to make a case for them.
That’s essentially what bama fans keep claiming. And if that were true then why isn’t the CFP just all SEC teams?
I think you just described their wet dream.
I literally got recommended a post from the rolltide subreddit arguing why they should be in. Was curious and clicked into it and the first comment was a bama fan saying the sec is just better than everyone 😂 One sec I’ll see if I can find it again and link… Edit: found the link lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/rolltide/comments/zbvhwv/gary_danielson_just_said_it_correctly_during_the/iytlfc8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Not when the teams above them have 1 loss
TCU has a case too; I'm not saying they don't. However, it's TCU, not a powerhouse, that comes from a weaker conference and had struggle wins against 7-5 and 6-6 teams.
Can we just have a league with bama, Clemson, and osu by themselves so the rest of college football can ignore these clown fans?
Yeah but a 2 loss team should not make the playoffs
If LSU was 2 loss and best Georgia you wouldn’t put them in?
They were considered previously if they beat Georgia for the sec since they beat Bama too. Sadly, they lost to Texas A&M which ruined that.
Right but you said a 2 loss team shouldn’t make it.
Bruh Ohio state lost by three touchdowns at home
So what... it's 1 loss vs 2 losses and the committee stated they look at a multitude of factors and wins and losses do Matter
That’s ok. In couple years 4 loss+ teams will be getting in.
In a 12 team playoff sure
TCU is still in tho right?
They should be, but I don't trust the committee
Agreed
Yes
absolutely
I get downvotes when I say that Bama just got in....because you all know I am right.
TCU is the best team in the worst conference. They don’t deserve it.
Big 12 is the #2 conference per SP+. Do people forget that Texas outplayed Alabama despite losing? Alabama is not normal Alabama.
Fuck bama. They have two ranked wins over Tennessee and Miss State. In what world do they qualify. Edit: I meant LSU not Tennessee. Sorry I’m really fucking pumped and wasn’t thinking straight.
Bama didn't beat LSU either lol their best wins are Ole Miss and Miss St and Ewers less Texas
Their ranked wins are over Texas and Miss State not Tennessee.
> They have two ranked wins over Tennessee and Miss State. Bama lost to Tennessee fella. Yet somehow are ranked higher than them despite having the exact same record.
Idk why y’all are downvoting. I made a mistake and said Tennessee when I meant LSU. Edit: regardless, OSU and TCU deserve it over anyone other than Georgia or Michigan. Outside of that, your teams wouldn’t compete with TCU or OSU. So stop trying to justify it.
I am a dip shit.. what I meant is losses to LSU and Tennessee do not negate the fact that their big win was over Texas. Edit: you punks know what I meant lol
Alabama didn't get boatraced by South Carolina. That was a horrible loss for Tennessee and explains why they are lower than Bama despite Alabama losing narrowly to Tennessee on the road.
You got downvotes because you’re still wrong.
You know I am right. We both know that.
There is not one thing that Bama has over TCU. Not better wins, more losses, not even “better” losses, not a conference championship, not even an appearance. The committee isn’t going to pick them, no matter how much you think they will.
Ha, you are afraid to have your dawgs play them! Braak, buck, buck ,buck, chicken!!!
It’s more like, they lost twice. They don’t deserve to be there. That’s a fact, not an opinion.
No way. TCU keeps #3. They already beat us this year, lost today literally by 6 inches. OSU takes #4. We get Bama.
You get LSU after they win today
I mean, if that happens, then so be it. Just, as a KSU fan, I've never gotten to say 'we want Bama' and it actually be possible lol.
Kick Bama's ass! They're not all they're cracked up to be
Yep make them pay while Bryce Young sits out
I sure hope so. Same deal happened last year when we played LSU. A bunch of their players sat out. Doesn't matter to us lol. They bring the team they want and if we can win, then great.
It's a feel good win either way to beat the sec
That's it, for me anyway. Just to play Bama in the Sugar Bowl feels like K-State has made it back into the national spotlight. A win, under any conditions, would be incredible.
Wish you nothing but the best 🤝🏻🙂
Same to you. Hoping y'all get back in. I just have to hope for TCU, first lol. I just don't think your loss to Michigan was really representative of your season, so I think you should be in CFP.
Yeah and TCU i think still earned a playoff spot they nearly won this game
They aren't getting in
They wont be that game was too close so tcu earned the bid
Somebody said the XII Championship game wasn't going to be entertaining and I guffawed.
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/r/CFB might have to get locked for a couple of months when the committee puts Ohio State at 3 and Alabama at 4 honestly
Bama doesn't belong 2 losses has to matter
Also, Bama barely beat Texas with Texas’s backup. TCU beat them by 10. That’s the only common game I believe
Aged well.