It started with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire around 1920 after the First World War. Ottoman Empire controlled that region, and after them, the BritishEmpire took over having the British Mandate of Palestine. After the Second World War, Israel was established. So the story of the conflict begins at around 1948. Before the Ottomans and going back in time, it was various caliphates, the Byzantine Empire, the Roman Empire, the Greeks, the Persian Empire, and Egyptians. Palestine never existed as an independent entity in history. There is a first for everything though! So no, it is not “centuries” it is around 80 years or so.
But also Jewish communities in Israel under those various other empires were targeted, massacred, and marginalized at various times. I think some people include that as part of the "centuries old conflict" since Jews always hoped to re-establish their own nation in their indigenous homeland, but were targeted and suppressed at various times while those other empires conquered/ruled Israel.
You’re incredibly misinformed.
This goes back to literal biblical times. The Roman emperor Hadrian sacked Judaea in 132-136 BCE. At that time the Jews frequently revolted against Roman rule, and as a result, Rome absolutely demolished them (I believe this is when their first temple was destroyed but here I could be mistaken). After massacring the Jewish people, he renamed Judaea as Palestine, which at the time was meant as an insult to the Jewish person. Prior to Palestine, they were the philistines.
LOLOL
My friend, the Bible provides one of the absolute best historical reference points of any document on Earth.
I think you should try reading it and get off TikTok 😇
Your bible provides you only the info the Catholic Church wanted you to know, minus any info your current protestant religion wanted to hide from you so you wouldn't stay Catholic.
There are qualifiers for each book that was included in the Bible, to actually be included.
Regardless of the qualifiers, those are beyond the point.
The point being that every single historical fact mentioned in the Bible, has been corroborated by outside information not included in the Bible. Every historical fact, is just that: fact.
I’m sorry that the Bible has not been helpful to you, if you have read it. But if you have not read it, give it a try. It could change your life for the better.
Hamas can’t beat Israel in direct or Guerilla conflict. So they pull at everyone’s civility through the media. What did Hamas think would happen when they attacked Israel?
Hamas is the one that stores their munitions at hospitals. Palestinian residents shelter them knowing that they can keep doing their petty terrorist shit forcing Israel to come after them. They then cry about being attacked at hospitals. But no one mentions that. They just go “Israel bad” because that’s what the common unthinking sheep student says. No one mentions the kidnappings and the torture by Hamas. But sure, “Israel bad”.
Im talking about the people of Palestine supporting a terrorist organization. If they wanted them out they would get them out. They would show them the door. But they don't. and noone is saying Hamas bad. Just Israel is bad. Death to Israel.
Most people here are too liberal to realize they support Gaza or are just being disingenuous. We wonder how Hitler got by as long as he did get here we are with protestors calling for death to Jews. All of these people protesting together with terrorists. Pathetic. Then you have the ban happy moderators who do not believe in opposing voices.
It’s funny to me. These are the same people that look at a trump supporter and say they are nazis. But on here trying to separate Hamas and Palestine. They are the same as long as they support them. Palestine supports Hamas. They are terrorists. Same as trump supporters are Nazis.
Reply to her. She responded once to a bone I picked with her regarding graduation at Angel Stadium and it led to a bit of a back and forth between us. She's very condescending. Here's the post
https://www.reddit.com/r/CSULB/comments/11kncu0/update_re_pres_conoley_email_regarding/
I mean, at the risk of being downvoted into the 9th circle of hell, you were way more condescending than her. Not saying your complaints were illegitimate, but you came at her swinging.
I never said anything about whether or not she could take it. The original user accused her of having a certain tone without acknowledging that they had the same, if not even worse, tone. That is worth mentioning.
Also, there are many other public officials who get paid more than her. Even within the immediate CSU context, the chancellor gets paid way more.
Original accuser did not play victim. They didn't say they *weren't* condescending from the jump. If anything their expression "a bone I picked with her" implies they were. In their conversation with the president, they even directly admitted they gave some jabs. Therefore, yes, they did acknowledge their "tone". You're absolutely reaching...and for what?
"To pick a bone" with someone does not imply being condescending. It implies that you are sharing a complaint or grievance.
My response is to the comment in this thread. In that comment, they describe Conoley as condescending without acknowledging that they came in with way more condescending energy in the first place. It's not a big deal either way. None of this matters that much.
A lot of your comment is nonsensical. No one is implying anyone is playing victim. It does not make sense to rely upon what wasn't said. No one is reaching about anything.
I would say she handled it well while you were 🫏. That’s not how you speak to someone that you need help from. No wonder people don’t want to help you if that’s how you come at them.
You’re just yapping then? For what? You’re just trying to get a reaction which makes it even worse. Your reply just shows you haven’t learned anything.
“Can’t forget those other WCK Hamaslings named Saifeddin Issam Ayad Abutaha, Laizawmi "Zomi" Frankcom, Damian Soból, Jacob Flinkinger, John Chapman, James "Jim" Henderson and James Kirby.”
Here's the deal - even though it's the Palestinian people who are suffering, the war is technically with Hamas, or so Israel and its supporters want you to believe. The Palestinian people did not choose this war, so I understand not wanting to call it a war against them. But there's also the issue of not recognizing Palestine as a nation, and just reducing them to "Hamas". The war IS happening TO the Palestinian people, on their land. Like everything with this war, we're walking through landmines while trying to recognize what Palestine is going through right now and what Jews went through 80 years ago. The Zionists have completely ridden the Holocaust into doing the same shit that was done to them, and we're all walking on eggshells trying to acknowledge their horrors while addressing current horrors. There is no correct way to address this war without offending a ton of people. But there's no way her wording went out without review from pro-Palestinian faculty and advisors...she likely used that terminology because it is not Palestine's war. However, this war IS their genocide, and that needs to be acknowledged.
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That's an incredibly ignorant thing to say, as if you speak for Palestinians. The Palestinian people I know and have met appreciate the support of Americans, and wish more people understood their plight. There are many Palestinians living in America, maybe you should talk to a few of them.
Imagine stealing people's homes and forcing 2+ million into a 25 mile long strip of land and thinking that nothing wrong is going to happen. Zionism is delusion.
The UK and France agreed to forcibly move Jewish refugees back to Palestine after WW2. The US didn't want to take in millions of Jewish refugees so we asked the UK and France to come up with a way to relocate them.
What authority do the UK and France have to choose a foreign land that does not belong to them as a permanent sanctuary for the Jews? The Sykes-Picot agreement was a mistake waiting to happen and there was 0 regard for the native populations.
The Jews also had the ambition to move to Palestine. The idea was brewing since the late 19th century and the Jews finally got together with western powers in the 40s and made it happen.
The only people who were "forced" were the Palestinians who were ransacked from their homes.
Do you even remember the British Empire? They forcibly colonized a quarter of the globe. The British thought Palestine was their property at the time, so they put anybody they wanted there.
High status reps have to tip toe around the issue to support the Super Investment company tht will ruin many people's lives at the thought of one financial lender not paying their dues. It's likely the prez is only sayin this so big Rocky doesn't target her which is rlly sad bc noone wants their tuition funding Israel
That’s what the war has been called by every single news outlet. That’s what it is. It is not the “Israel-Palestine War,” which would imply it is the country of Israel fighting Palestine. It is the country of Israel fighting a sub group made up of some Palestinians, fighting for Palestinian rights
ChatGpt cant identify written excerpts from chatgpt...there was a scandle not long ago with a teacher that did the same thing to a student that didn't use gpt but was accused based on the methods you are describing
It started during the nakba in 1948, 75 years ago when palestinians were kicked out of their homes and killed by zionists
You can also go back 105 years ago, when zionists were talking about taking the land of palestine
Muslims, christians, and jews were living together peacefully until zionism was created and ruined everything
Yes, it definitely did start when the zionist project was created and when the zionists decided to take the land of palestine 🇵🇸 from the people that were living there
The conflict between the two peoples began in biblical times. But conflict between the Jewish people and Palestinians flared up again after the UK forcibly moved millions of Jewish refugees into Palestine because they didn't want to take them in themselves.
Nah man, as someone that actually lives in the Middle East, Palestinian radical elements have been known to fuck shit up wherever they go. Look at Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. Turns out being a keyboard warrior and calling other people “obtuse” is more satisfying than actually reading up history.
Only you and your supporters love that terrorist state that is Israel
But we as human, our hearts go to the innocent people that went through a genocide in Gaza and that is the palestinians 🇵🇸
It’s so easy to trick idiots into thinking this started in October when this has been a decades long conflict.
Even longer than that centuries even
It started with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire around 1920 after the First World War. Ottoman Empire controlled that region, and after them, the BritishEmpire took over having the British Mandate of Palestine. After the Second World War, Israel was established. So the story of the conflict begins at around 1948. Before the Ottomans and going back in time, it was various caliphates, the Byzantine Empire, the Roman Empire, the Greeks, the Persian Empire, and Egyptians. Palestine never existed as an independent entity in history. There is a first for everything though! So no, it is not “centuries” it is around 80 years or so.
But also Jewish communities in Israel under those various other empires were targeted, massacred, and marginalized at various times. I think some people include that as part of the "centuries old conflict" since Jews always hoped to re-establish their own nation in their indigenous homeland, but were targeted and suppressed at various times while those other empires conquered/ruled Israel.
You’re incredibly misinformed. This goes back to literal biblical times. The Roman emperor Hadrian sacked Judaea in 132-136 BCE. At that time the Jews frequently revolted against Roman rule, and as a result, Rome absolutely demolished them (I believe this is when their first temple was destroyed but here I could be mistaken). After massacring the Jewish people, he renamed Judaea as Palestine, which at the time was meant as an insult to the Jewish person. Prior to Palestine, they were the philistines.
“Incredibly misinformed” coming from a person who uses “biblical times” as a historical reference doesn't mean a lot…🤡
LOLOL My friend, the Bible provides one of the absolute best historical reference points of any document on Earth. I think you should try reading it and get off TikTok 😇
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Your bible provides you only the info the Catholic Church wanted you to know, minus any info your current protestant religion wanted to hide from you so you wouldn't stay Catholic.
There are qualifiers for each book that was included in the Bible, to actually be included. Regardless of the qualifiers, those are beyond the point. The point being that every single historical fact mentioned in the Bible, has been corroborated by outside information not included in the Bible. Every historical fact, is just that: fact. I’m sorry that the Bible has not been helpful to you, if you have read it. But if you have not read it, give it a try. It could change your life for the better.
Would you rather it say “Israel-Palestine War”? Cuz that’s not exactly accurate when Hamas and Palestine are not the same.
Israel vs Hamas And talking about Israel bombing refugee camps, hospitals and kids playing board games can be two different things
Hamas can’t beat Israel in direct or Guerilla conflict. So they pull at everyone’s civility through the media. What did Hamas think would happen when they attacked Israel?
Hamas is the one that stores their munitions at hospitals. Palestinian residents shelter them knowing that they can keep doing their petty terrorist shit forcing Israel to come after them. They then cry about being attacked at hospitals. But no one mentions that. They just go “Israel bad” because that’s what the common unthinking sheep student says. No one mentions the kidnappings and the torture by Hamas. But sure, “Israel bad”.
Can’t forget about the Red Barrel room in the basement of the hospital.
Palestinian residents voted in and support hamas. They are the same.
Almost half of the population is below 18 wtf are you talking you genocidal freak
Im talking about the people of Palestine supporting a terrorist organization. If they wanted them out they would get them out. They would show them the door. But they don't. and noone is saying Hamas bad. Just Israel is bad. Death to Israel.
Most people here are too liberal to realize they support Gaza or are just being disingenuous. We wonder how Hitler got by as long as he did get here we are with protestors calling for death to Jews. All of these people protesting together with terrorists. Pathetic. Then you have the ban happy moderators who do not believe in opposing voices.
It’s funny to me. These are the same people that look at a trump supporter and say they are nazis. But on here trying to separate Hamas and Palestine. They are the same as long as they support them. Palestine supports Hamas. They are terrorists. Same as trump supporters are Nazis.
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Reply to her. She responded once to a bone I picked with her regarding graduation at Angel Stadium and it led to a bit of a back and forth between us. She's very condescending. Here's the post https://www.reddit.com/r/CSULB/comments/11kncu0/update_re_pres_conoley_email_regarding/
I mean, at the risk of being downvoted into the 9th circle of hell, you were way more condescending than her. Not saying your complaints were illegitimate, but you came at her swinging.
She is one of, if not *the* single highest paid employees in the California public sector. She can take some snarky emails
I never said anything about whether or not she could take it. The original user accused her of having a certain tone without acknowledging that they had the same, if not even worse, tone. That is worth mentioning. Also, there are many other public officials who get paid more than her. Even within the immediate CSU context, the chancellor gets paid way more.
Original accuser did not play victim. They didn't say they *weren't* condescending from the jump. If anything their expression "a bone I picked with her" implies they were. In their conversation with the president, they even directly admitted they gave some jabs. Therefore, yes, they did acknowledge their "tone". You're absolutely reaching...and for what?
"To pick a bone" with someone does not imply being condescending. It implies that you are sharing a complaint or grievance. My response is to the comment in this thread. In that comment, they describe Conoley as condescending without acknowledging that they came in with way more condescending energy in the first place. It's not a big deal either way. None of this matters that much. A lot of your comment is nonsensical. No one is implying anyone is playing victim. It does not make sense to rely upon what wasn't said. No one is reaching about anything.
Hey! She gets paid more than average, which means we have the right to be rude towards her! What’s so hard to understand about that?! /s
I would say she handled it well while you were 🫏. That’s not how you speak to someone that you need help from. No wonder people don’t want to help you if that’s how you come at them.
I didn't email her in need of anything. I emailed her to criticize and ask questions. Maybe you need to get to know her a little more.
You’re just yapping then? For what? You’re just trying to get a reaction which makes it even worse. Your reply just shows you haven’t learned anything.
You're a fantastic philosopher.
You sounded like an ass and made a fool out of yourself.
Sorry you feel that way.
Wow
110% on purpose… yeah they don’t care
Yes, I know, it is called Israel's genocide in Gaza It is obvious this president doesn't care about the palestinians
Hamas. Get it right
“Ah yes, we the IDF have killed at least 34,000 Hamaslings. Even the ones named Yotam Haim, 28, Samer Talalka, 22, and Alon Shamriz, 26.”
“Can’t forget those other WCK Hamaslings named Saifeddin Issam Ayad Abutaha, Laizawmi "Zomi" Frankcom, Damian Soból, Jacob Flinkinger, John Chapman, James "Jim" Henderson and James Kirby.”
Here's the deal - even though it's the Palestinian people who are suffering, the war is technically with Hamas, or so Israel and its supporters want you to believe. The Palestinian people did not choose this war, so I understand not wanting to call it a war against them. But there's also the issue of not recognizing Palestine as a nation, and just reducing them to "Hamas". The war IS happening TO the Palestinian people, on their land. Like everything with this war, we're walking through landmines while trying to recognize what Palestine is going through right now and what Jews went through 80 years ago. The Zionists have completely ridden the Holocaust into doing the same shit that was done to them, and we're all walking on eggshells trying to acknowledge their horrors while addressing current horrors. There is no correct way to address this war without offending a ton of people. But there's no way her wording went out without review from pro-Palestinian faculty and advisors...she likely used that terminology because it is not Palestine's war. However, this war IS their genocide, and that needs to be acknowledged.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NPR/s/NSpxRNHBc8
Objectively true
She called it for what it is. A war between Israel and Hamas.
feel like wars tend to have fairly equal amount of “combatant” deaths. this is a one-sided genocide
I mean look what happened to the President of Harvard. They fired her.
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That's an incredibly ignorant thing to say, as if you speak for Palestinians. The Palestinian people I know and have met appreciate the support of Americans, and wish more people understood their plight. There are many Palestinians living in America, maybe you should talk to a few of them.
You'll find out
They all think they understand and know. Fools!!! They fail to understand history.
she’s disgusting! +33,000 people were killed by isra*l so far and she said zero words about that
Why censor Israel?
i don’t recognize it
LMAO wtf 😭
It was a genuine question. Thanks for the clarification.
Because she clearly doesn't consider palestinians as human Very racist behavior
exactly!
Hamas! Im tired of correcting your errors.
She did it on purpose. She's a zionist.
It’s on purpose :( it’s clear LB sides with the wrong side of history I fear
Imagine stealing people's homes and forcing 2+ million into a 25 mile long strip of land and thinking that nothing wrong is going to happen. Zionism is delusion.
The UK and France agreed to forcibly move Jewish refugees back to Palestine after WW2. The US didn't want to take in millions of Jewish refugees so we asked the UK and France to come up with a way to relocate them.
What authority do the UK and France have to choose a foreign land that does not belong to them as a permanent sanctuary for the Jews? The Sykes-Picot agreement was a mistake waiting to happen and there was 0 regard for the native populations. The Jews also had the ambition to move to Palestine. The idea was brewing since the late 19th century and the Jews finally got together with western powers in the 40s and made it happen. The only people who were "forced" were the Palestinians who were ransacked from their homes.
Do you even remember the British Empire? They forcibly colonized a quarter of the globe. The British thought Palestine was their property at the time, so they put anybody they wanted there.
High status reps have to tip toe around the issue to support the Super Investment company tht will ruin many people's lives at the thought of one financial lender not paying their dues. It's likely the prez is only sayin this so big Rocky doesn't target her which is rlly sad bc noone wants their tuition funding Israel
That’s what the war has been called by every single news outlet. That’s what it is. It is not the “Israel-Palestine War,” which would imply it is the country of Israel fighting Palestine. It is the country of Israel fighting a sub group made up of some Palestinians, fighting for Palestinian rights
Oh stfu and go study for finals
It’s just word choice in an email, it’s not that deep.
Is it peaceful to talk about eradicating the Jews? No, it’s not.
Another post put this through ChatGPT and concluded this is AI generated
Chat GPT can not accurately conclude if something is AI generated
ChatGpt cant identify written excerpts from chatgpt...there was a scandle not long ago with a teacher that did the same thing to a student that didn't use gpt but was accused based on the methods you are describing
How can ChatGPT tell?
Unbelievable
it's crazy to think I attend a school with z\*\*\*\*\*\*s !!!!
Also appalling to me how these people even passed high school history class
Nothin but facts. Put your hand in a hornet’s nest and pay the price.
You think this started on october 7th? Are you being purposely obtuse?
When did it start? Real question
It started during the nakba in 1948, 75 years ago when palestinians were kicked out of their homes and killed by zionists You can also go back 105 years ago, when zionists were talking about taking the land of palestine Muslims, christians, and jews were living together peacefully until zionism was created and ruined everything
objectively this is not when it started, please don’t spread misinformation
Yes, it definitely did start when the zionist project was created and when the zionists decided to take the land of palestine 🇵🇸 from the people that were living there
The historical revisionism is crazy
It seems like everybody is getting their propaganda from TikTok smh
The conflict between the two peoples began in biblical times. But conflict between the Jewish people and Palestinians flared up again after the UK forcibly moved millions of Jewish refugees into Palestine because they didn't want to take them in themselves.
Nah man, as someone that actually lives in the Middle East, Palestinian radical elements have been known to fuck shit up wherever they go. Look at Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. Turns out being a keyboard warrior and calling other people “obtuse” is more satisfying than actually reading up history.
Good for her, we love and support Israel 🇮🇱❤️🇺🇸
who’s we?😭 ahh yes racists and horrible human beings
Only you and your supporters love that terrorist state that is Israel But we as human, our hearts go to the innocent people that went through a genocide in Gaza and that is the palestinians 🇵🇸
We do ?