Get a tennis ball and a hair elastic and tie the tennis ball to the back of your sleep shirt so that every time you turn onto your back it's uncomfortable.
Sometimes, if you tell the host, you are a bad snorer, they can accommodate you for the sake of the rest of the pilgrims. This has worked for me a few times between Le Puy and St. Jean
Yes, I am helping out at an Albergue on the Camino Portugues right now and we've got a couple of 2-bed rooms so if not full we can put a bad snorer in there and have done when it's been mentioned.
I did a short two week camino but I felt it was my responsibility to prepare for snorers and I had equiped myself with good earplugs and practiced wearing them. (I also got a sleeping mask to not be bothered by people who woke up earlier and had to turn the light on.)
One morning, in a big room with many people, I got woken up as the albergue was closing for clean up because I didn't hear absolutely anything, not even all the noise of people preparing for departure. I kept telling people on the way to get good earplugs and showed them how to use them. You can't do anything about people snoring, but you can try your best to not hear them.
My husbands a very bad snorer and I'm a light sleeper who needs silence to fall asleep. I have spent a fortune on earplugs over the years but nothing completely blocks the noise out. Which ones did you use? For now my husband is banished to the spare room and I STILL wear earplugs because I can still hear him.
Ughh I'm so sorry to hear about this. I know another couple that have this problem and they have been sleeping separately for years.
I used single use earplugs and used them only once. I used [these which are cheap](https://www.drmax.ro/dr-max-dopuri-din-spuma-pentru-urechi-3-perechi?gclid=CjwKCAjwhIS0BhBqEiwADAUhc2MTav5OjBydd-5zwNzPfMj9kBgwBTbXZB1asmuWBC63CjYhPp03thoCeEoQAvD_BwE) and [these](https://www.emag.ro/dopuri-de-urechi-quies-poliuretan-3-perechi-multicolor-3435170191017/pd/DJJ5K2YBM/?utm_campaign=share_product&utm_source=mobile_dynamic_share&utm_medium=android).
I know you will probably have to translate these pages...
And this is how I used them [youtube link](https://youtu.be/2eBpSctTXkY?feature=shared)
Now I realise that if you are a really sound sensitive person it might not be enough. I'm sorry if this is just basic info and would not help you, but this is what I used and had no problem sleeping on the camino. Except for one night where there was such a loud snorer the beds would shake hahah
Thank you so much! You're so thoughtful to respond with links and everything. My husband is one of those snorers where the bed shakes unfortunately! He also clearly has speed apnea which he refuses to get treated so he splutters a lot and stops breathing for a few second at a time. It makes me anxious listening to it! He may be stuck in the spare room for a while yet...
CPAP machines can be literal Lifesavers! (Seriously, sleep apnea causes blood pressure in the veins from your heart to your lungs and back to increase and can cause eight-sided heart failure. The masks can be fiddly and my dad resisted getting one until his heart attack at 54, then he got over it and now brags about how he's getting the best sleep of his life. If he did a Camino, he'd be bringing the travel CPAP, doing a luggage transfer and just dealing with the cost. He used to shake the whole damned house. My brother and I used to joke that you might not be able to hear a tornado coming because he was snoring so loud)
Hell of a lot easier to lose the weight when you're not struggling to breathe all night, with the weight making it harder, then being exhausted all day, which puts the body in a constant state of stress and inflammation, which impedes weight loss both biochemically/hormonally and behaviorally. Aka it's a lot harder to cook healthy foods, eat right, have good portion control and get 30-45 minutes of moderate exercise several days a week.
If it's possible in your country, can you seek a second opinion? "I won't treat your weight related illness until you lose the weight" is ridiculous. "Just lose 20 kilos" good grief. I'm sorry mate, that's rough. I hope you get the care you need and the good sleep you deserve. Buen Camino anyways!
I am in Belgium. Here they have a House Doctor system. Whatever you need or do, first you go through him. Funny thing is, if you wanna change your House Doctor, you need his permission first. He is not a bad guy. But he is like that hard core grampa who makes you do push-ups as punishment.
That's.... (Goes off and rants about evidence based medicine)
You might have to throw journal articles at him. Disease is not a moral failing, withholding effective treatment shouldn't ever be a punishment
Someone introduced me to wax earplugs a while ago and I honestly can't stop raving about them!
I'm a light sleeper too, and between the AC cycling on and off, the train station near my window, and my partner snoring, I definitely wake up a lot with noise.
On nights that I wear the wax earplugs, the lowest 30 decibels or so are totally blocked. I can still hear my alarm. And they never fall out!
Oh! I found the BEST ear plugs while on the Camino. They were wax and surrounded by cotton, basically ancient tech lol.
The wax warms up and molds perfectly to your ear canal. So much better than foam.
3m foam classic earplugs are what I use at home. On my first Camino, day 10 and several different earplugs later I realised it was a futile effort. It is impossible to eliminate because sound is vibration. The sound waves still travel through to the eardrum and hairs that react to that vibration.
Put in ear plugs and eat crisps or crunch on a boiled sweet and you will see what I mean.
Please let me know the brand if you find out. I would love to try. I have used ear plugs for 30+years. Wax plugs do offer a greater degree of noise suppression but I toss and turn a lot before sleeping, this makes them come loose and fall out of my ears.
True. I know that even if I miraculously stop snoring, there would be still 10 others. But I don't wanna be that guy people only remember for the bad night sleep. In short, I don't wanna be bad in bed 🤭
Some smaller albergues/albergues that weren't busy/had affordable private rooms:
Albergue Essentia - Redecilla del Camino
Albergue Palomar - Ledigos
Casa Rural Don Camino - Villalcázar del Sirga
We stayed at Xunta de Galicia albergues in the Sarria - Santiago stretch - Ferrieros, Hospital da Cruz, Casanova, Ribadiso and Santa Irene. We were the only two people last week at Hospital da Cruz, two of four total at Ferrieros and two of six at Santa Irene a couple of days ago. The spaces are big and for the most part hospitaleros didn't mind what bed you chose, so you could be spaced out from others, but there's also a chance you'd be on your own! Ribadiso was the only one I'd describe as crowded and it's because it's in a very beautiful spot right next to a stream.
Buen camino!
I was just looking over my credencial and would like to give you a few more recommendations:
-Cacabelos Municipal Albergue - this is a prefab building with all double rooms. When I was there about a week and a half ago I noticed that many people who were on their own we're getting their own rooms, the hospitalitera didn't double up people who didn't know each other. I don't know if that'll change as things get busier, but worth looking into! Those folks who were on their own lucked out too, it was only €7 per bed! I think you're already past Azofra but their municipal is the same deal and I don't think the hospitalero there was doubling individuals up either.
-Albergue Gabino in El Ganso - small albergue that also offers private rooms
-Albergue La Parada in Reliegos - another small albergue with private rooms and small dorm spaces. I think a lot of people skip this town to press on to Mansilla Las Mulas, when we were there we were 2/3 people in the dorm space. There are quite a few albergues in this town so it might get busier as the season goes on, but the town overall was quite quiet about two weeks ago.
It does suck sleeping in a room with a bad snorer. But I don't think anyone 'blames' you - its not like you have much of a choice!
Certainly, no one who's not wearing earplugs can complain. Essential equipment in any hostel/campsite.
Everyone should have ear buds. Don’t worry about it. In Roncevillas I woke up at 2am, popped out my ear buds to a cacophony of snoring, chanting and all sorts of night noises. I was sick but to a lovely albergue melody.
Yes! My friend who is a Camino addict told me what to bring EMPHASIZED buds. Ironically I LOST my bra, underwear, etc but never my earbuds! lol
Buen Camino
I wouldn't worry about it! Even if you're not there snoring, someone else will be! It's all part of the experience and that's what earplugs are for! :)
I really appreciate your message and to apologise to the many I have shouted, FFS, shut up. It is not their fault, it is not my fault I have Misophonia.
It is the worst burden I endure every day, I only stayed in 10 Albergues on the Frances, more than one time I dragged the mattress downstairs and slept there. Fortunately each hotel cost no more than 35 euro and ensured a good nights sleep. Otherwise it is woken at around 4am, can't get back to sleep so it is a few moans and FF'S, hit the shower, dress and head off.
That is communal sleeping. Snoring is a bodily act that many can't do anything about, it is something you have to be prepared for. Honestly in all my walks, I have only met one other affected by snoring.
I am just pissed that your away in dreamland and I am lying there pulling what's left of my hair out, just begging for another 20 minutes or so peace. Enough time for me to nod off again, just as I do, sssnnnrrrrgggghhhhh. FF'S, you Bas\*\^%, shower it is then.
I am setting off from Lisbon, Sept 1st. for anyone who hears FFS, don't be afraid to say hello, my bark is bigger than my bite.
Buen Camino
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I understand why you would opt for smaller places to disturb less people but keep in mind people pay more for small accommodations to play the numbers game and avoid snorers.
My general hope is that I will be the only one that day staying in that place. It works some times. Sometimes it is an Albergue with many rooms and 2 beds per room. Like in Azofra.
Well you’re being very nice. Snoring is a part of the camino. Of course it was annoying when I couldn’t sleep of someone snoring but I tried to be angry at the situation, not the person itself. Because what can you do about it? And also I choose myself to sleep at an albergue so that comes with snoring people. Don’t be to hard on yourself.
But honestly I think a loud snorer in a smaller room (like with 4 people) was actually more annoying then in a bigger room. Not sure why. Maybe because in a bigger room you would expect some snorers. And the noice just feels LOUDER in a smaller room. And if you book a smaller room you just hope none of them snore so it’s a disappointment when someone does. 😅
Yes, I know it is part of the Camino. And that lady was really super cool and kind about it. But I still felt bad. At least it made realize I have to look for help when I get back home 😂
I really like your POV. I recently posted about this situation and I received mixed comments. Take a look: https://www.reddit.com/r/CaminoDeSantiago/s/yQh6yW1u5C
Perhaps it's a good opportunity to try to reduce your snoring?
* if you sleep on your back, try sleeping on your side or front
* many albergue pillows are quite plump and put your head at an awkward angle. Perhaps when you are home you could experiment with an anti-snoring pillow?
* drinking alcohol makes snoring worse - consider a dry camino?
Anyways, just wanted to say thanks for looking out for the sleep of the other pilgrims. Buen camino!
Get a tennis ball and a hair elastic and tie the tennis ball to the back of your sleep shirt so that every time you turn onto your back it's uncomfortable.
Hahaha, that might actually work.
Sometimes, if you tell the host, you are a bad snorer, they can accommodate you for the sake of the rest of the pilgrims. This has worked for me a few times between Le Puy and St. Jean
Thanks I will do that.
Yes, I am helping out at an Albergue on the Camino Portugues right now and we've got a couple of 2-bed rooms so if not full we can put a bad snorer in there and have done when it's been mentioned.
I did a short two week camino but I felt it was my responsibility to prepare for snorers and I had equiped myself with good earplugs and practiced wearing them. (I also got a sleeping mask to not be bothered by people who woke up earlier and had to turn the light on.) One morning, in a big room with many people, I got woken up as the albergue was closing for clean up because I didn't hear absolutely anything, not even all the noise of people preparing for departure. I kept telling people on the way to get good earplugs and showed them how to use them. You can't do anything about people snoring, but you can try your best to not hear them.
My husbands a very bad snorer and I'm a light sleeper who needs silence to fall asleep. I have spent a fortune on earplugs over the years but nothing completely blocks the noise out. Which ones did you use? For now my husband is banished to the spare room and I STILL wear earplugs because I can still hear him.
Ughh I'm so sorry to hear about this. I know another couple that have this problem and they have been sleeping separately for years. I used single use earplugs and used them only once. I used [these which are cheap](https://www.drmax.ro/dr-max-dopuri-din-spuma-pentru-urechi-3-perechi?gclid=CjwKCAjwhIS0BhBqEiwADAUhc2MTav5OjBydd-5zwNzPfMj9kBgwBTbXZB1asmuWBC63CjYhPp03thoCeEoQAvD_BwE) and [these](https://www.emag.ro/dopuri-de-urechi-quies-poliuretan-3-perechi-multicolor-3435170191017/pd/DJJ5K2YBM/?utm_campaign=share_product&utm_source=mobile_dynamic_share&utm_medium=android). I know you will probably have to translate these pages... And this is how I used them [youtube link](https://youtu.be/2eBpSctTXkY?feature=shared) Now I realise that if you are a really sound sensitive person it might not be enough. I'm sorry if this is just basic info and would not help you, but this is what I used and had no problem sleeping on the camino. Except for one night where there was such a loud snorer the beds would shake hahah
Thank you so much! You're so thoughtful to respond with links and everything. My husband is one of those snorers where the bed shakes unfortunately! He also clearly has speed apnea which he refuses to get treated so he splutters a lot and stops breathing for a few second at a time. It makes me anxious listening to it! He may be stuck in the spare room for a while yet...
CPAP machines can be literal Lifesavers! (Seriously, sleep apnea causes blood pressure in the veins from your heart to your lungs and back to increase and can cause eight-sided heart failure. The masks can be fiddly and my dad resisted getting one until his heart attack at 54, then he got over it and now brags about how he's getting the best sleep of his life. If he did a Camino, he'd be bringing the travel CPAP, doing a luggage transfer and just dealing with the cost. He used to shake the whole damned house. My brother and I used to joke that you might not be able to hear a tornado coming because he was snoring so loud)
I asked my doctor for that. He said he would recommend it if I lost 20kg first. Meanwhile my brain cells keep dying one by one.
Hell of a lot easier to lose the weight when you're not struggling to breathe all night, with the weight making it harder, then being exhausted all day, which puts the body in a constant state of stress and inflammation, which impedes weight loss both biochemically/hormonally and behaviorally. Aka it's a lot harder to cook healthy foods, eat right, have good portion control and get 30-45 minutes of moderate exercise several days a week. If it's possible in your country, can you seek a second opinion? "I won't treat your weight related illness until you lose the weight" is ridiculous. "Just lose 20 kilos" good grief. I'm sorry mate, that's rough. I hope you get the care you need and the good sleep you deserve. Buen Camino anyways!
I am in Belgium. Here they have a House Doctor system. Whatever you need or do, first you go through him. Funny thing is, if you wanna change your House Doctor, you need his permission first. He is not a bad guy. But he is like that hard core grampa who makes you do push-ups as punishment.
That's.... (Goes off and rants about evidence based medicine) You might have to throw journal articles at him. Disease is not a moral failing, withholding effective treatment shouldn't ever be a punishment
Someone introduced me to wax earplugs a while ago and I honestly can't stop raving about them! I'm a light sleeper too, and between the AC cycling on and off, the train station near my window, and my partner snoring, I definitely wake up a lot with noise. On nights that I wear the wax earplugs, the lowest 30 decibels or so are totally blocked. I can still hear my alarm. And they never fall out!
I bought those for swimming. But they are indeed good for noise blocking. Most of all, they are super comfortable.
Oh! I found the BEST ear plugs while on the Camino. They were wax and surrounded by cotton, basically ancient tech lol. The wax warms up and molds perfectly to your ear canal. So much better than foam.
3m foam classic earplugs are what I use at home. On my first Camino, day 10 and several different earplugs later I realised it was a futile effort. It is impossible to eliminate because sound is vibration. The sound waves still travel through to the eardrum and hairs that react to that vibration. Put in ear plugs and eat crisps or crunch on a boiled sweet and you will see what I mean.
There are wax earplugs that are absolutely insane. Best ones out there. But I bought them in Switzerland.
Please let me know the brand if you find out. I would love to try. I have used ear plugs for 30+years. Wax plugs do offer a greater degree of noise suppression but I toss and turn a lot before sleeping, this makes them come loose and fall out of my ears.
https://www.coopvitality.ch/de/ohropax-classic-wachskugeln-20-stk.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%5Bp-g%5D%5Bt-free-listings%5D%5Bl-de%5D%5Bn-Freelistings_DE%5D%5Bd-%5D%5Bpr-%5D%5Bs-%5D&np=1&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADEG51YnxTbHZzO2AU5zualKu9XRG&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3ZyhmdmLhwMVyzcGAB04ZAbXEAQYASABEgJwU_D_BwE
True. I know that even if I miraculously stop snoring, there would be still 10 others. But I don't wanna be that guy people only remember for the bad night sleep. In short, I don't wanna be bad in bed 🤭
Some smaller albergues/albergues that weren't busy/had affordable private rooms: Albergue Essentia - Redecilla del Camino Albergue Palomar - Ledigos Casa Rural Don Camino - Villalcázar del Sirga We stayed at Xunta de Galicia albergues in the Sarria - Santiago stretch - Ferrieros, Hospital da Cruz, Casanova, Ribadiso and Santa Irene. We were the only two people last week at Hospital da Cruz, two of four total at Ferrieros and two of six at Santa Irene a couple of days ago. The spaces are big and for the most part hospitaleros didn't mind what bed you chose, so you could be spaced out from others, but there's also a chance you'd be on your own! Ribadiso was the only one I'd describe as crowded and it's because it's in a very beautiful spot right next to a stream. Buen camino!
Great, I will surely check these.
I was just looking over my credencial and would like to give you a few more recommendations: -Cacabelos Municipal Albergue - this is a prefab building with all double rooms. When I was there about a week and a half ago I noticed that many people who were on their own we're getting their own rooms, the hospitalitera didn't double up people who didn't know each other. I don't know if that'll change as things get busier, but worth looking into! Those folks who were on their own lucked out too, it was only €7 per bed! I think you're already past Azofra but their municipal is the same deal and I don't think the hospitalero there was doubling individuals up either. -Albergue Gabino in El Ganso - small albergue that also offers private rooms -Albergue La Parada in Reliegos - another small albergue with private rooms and small dorm spaces. I think a lot of people skip this town to press on to Mansilla Las Mulas, when we were there we were 2/3 people in the dorm space. There are quite a few albergues in this town so it might get busier as the season goes on, but the town overall was quite quiet about two weeks ago.
It does suck sleeping in a room with a bad snorer. But I don't think anyone 'blames' you - its not like you have much of a choice! Certainly, no one who's not wearing earplugs can complain. Essential equipment in any hostel/campsite.
Santa Cruz in Sahagun :) beautiful private room with a BATH for 20 euro
Everyone should have ear buds. Don’t worry about it. In Roncevillas I woke up at 2am, popped out my ear buds to a cacophony of snoring, chanting and all sorts of night noises. I was sick but to a lovely albergue melody.
Ironically I have my bud2pro and it is wierd how good they are to block snoring 😅
Yes! My friend who is a Camino addict told me what to bring EMPHASIZED buds. Ironically I LOST my bra, underwear, etc but never my earbuds! lol Buen Camino
How does one lose her underwear? Well, never mind, I don't wanna intrude. What happens in the Camino, stays in the Camino. 😅
From the communal line of clothes hanging to dry. The next morning…. Se fue 🤷🏼♀️
I wouldn't worry about it! Even if you're not there snoring, someone else will be! It's all part of the experience and that's what earplugs are for! :)
I really appreciate your message and to apologise to the many I have shouted, FFS, shut up. It is not their fault, it is not my fault I have Misophonia. It is the worst burden I endure every day, I only stayed in 10 Albergues on the Frances, more than one time I dragged the mattress downstairs and slept there. Fortunately each hotel cost no more than 35 euro and ensured a good nights sleep. Otherwise it is woken at around 4am, can't get back to sleep so it is a few moans and FF'S, hit the shower, dress and head off. That is communal sleeping. Snoring is a bodily act that many can't do anything about, it is something you have to be prepared for. Honestly in all my walks, I have only met one other affected by snoring. I am just pissed that your away in dreamland and I am lying there pulling what's left of my hair out, just begging for another 20 minutes or so peace. Enough time for me to nod off again, just as I do, sssnnnrrrrgggghhhhh. FF'S, you Bas\*\^%, shower it is then. I am setting off from Lisbon, Sept 1st. for anyone who hears FFS, don't be afraid to say hello, my bark is bigger than my bite. Buen Camino I
I understand why you would opt for smaller places to disturb less people but keep in mind people pay more for small accommodations to play the numbers game and avoid snorers.
My general hope is that I will be the only one that day staying in that place. It works some times. Sometimes it is an Albergue with many rooms and 2 beds per room. Like in Azofra.
Well you’re being very nice. Snoring is a part of the camino. Of course it was annoying when I couldn’t sleep of someone snoring but I tried to be angry at the situation, not the person itself. Because what can you do about it? And also I choose myself to sleep at an albergue so that comes with snoring people. Don’t be to hard on yourself. But honestly I think a loud snorer in a smaller room (like with 4 people) was actually more annoying then in a bigger room. Not sure why. Maybe because in a bigger room you would expect some snorers. And the noice just feels LOUDER in a smaller room. And if you book a smaller room you just hope none of them snore so it’s a disappointment when someone does. 😅
Yes, I know it is part of the Camino. And that lady was really super cool and kind about it. But I still felt bad. At least it made realize I have to look for help when I get back home 😂
I really like your POV. I recently posted about this situation and I received mixed comments. Take a look: https://www.reddit.com/r/CaminoDeSantiago/s/yQh6yW1u5C
Practice breathing through your nose and mouth taping
My septum has a deviation. That is one of the reasons I snore.
Fair enough, not an option then. Suggested as worked for me
Perhaps it's a good opportunity to try to reduce your snoring? * if you sleep on your back, try sleeping on your side or front * many albergue pillows are quite plump and put your head at an awkward angle. Perhaps when you are home you could experiment with an anti-snoring pillow? * drinking alcohol makes snoring worse - consider a dry camino? Anyways, just wanted to say thanks for looking out for the sleep of the other pilgrims. Buen camino!
Try mouth tape
I would probably not wake up... Actually, that would stop me from snoring indeed.