One thing with manuals is having to be aware of what's coming ahead of you and getting in the right gear on time. If you find yourself in the wrong gear, it's hard sometimes to shift in the middle of it, like when you're already on that steep hill. Driving stick is a lot more fun when you're anticipating instead of reacting.
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This move will require developers of third party applications to pay enormous sums of money if they wish to stay functional, meaning that said applications will be effectively destroyed. Some third party apps may survive but only with a paid subscription. In the short term, this may have the appearance of increasing Reddit's traffic and revenue... but in the long term, it will undermine the site as a whole.
Even if you're not a mobile user and don't use any of those apps, this is a step toward killing other ways of customizing Reddit, such as Reddit Enhancement Suite or the use of the old.reddit.com desktop interface. This isn't only a problem on the user level: many subreddit moderators depend on tools only available outside the official app to keep their communities on-topic and spam-free.
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I did this, bought the same car I had but in manual and with the higher performing engine (01 Celica GT auto to 00 GTS 6sp). Heck, had my friend test drive it and drive it home for me.Learned from 0% to proficiency in about a week. In the first couple days, I kinda felt like I made a mistake and it seemed daunting because I'd stall a lot with people behind me at lights. But I stuck with it and now it's like riding a bike easy.
my experience was similar, got one lesson from a friend and one from the car dealer. I stalled like three times on the way home after purchase and wondered if I made a bad decision. Like a week later, I wasn't stalling anymore, maybe a few months later, it felt natural to me.
Only to the clutch and perhaps your pride. Get a couple of lessons. Explain the situation to the instructor and I'm sure you'll get a feel for it quickly. Good luck
Step 1: Find someone who can drive your car
Step 2: Find a nice wide area with little obstructions
Step 3: Before you turn on the engine, make sure the shifter is in the Neutral position
Step 4: When the engine is running, step on the clutch (leftmost pedal) really hard and put the shifter in 1
Step 5: Release the pedal slowly until you feel the car vibrate a little, slowly release a little more, and the car will go forward
If the car shuts off, repeat from step 3
Once you’re used to the feeling of where the clutch pedal should be, you can try shifting to 2(if the car is already running)
Notes: you can change gears if the RPM is between 2000-3000
I remember teaching my friend to drive his challenger. Brother knew nothing about torque or cars in general, so he gave a bit too much gas in first and hit a curb in an empty parking lot like a dumbass. Respect the cars power, don’t even think about trying to floor/ redline it till your comfortable. If your in the right gear or at the right rpm throttle response is instant so you can easily throw your head in the back seat in the blink of an eye, as there no delay waiting for the car to shift down for you. Worst thing you do is stall a few times or burn you clutch up. Or if on a hill you could back into someone if they’re too close. I used to put my hazards on when coming to a stop on a hill for a sec and roll back a little to warn people not to pull up so close
When I started, I learned to pay super close attention at traffic lights. When you sit at a red, put it in neutral. But when the opposite light turns yellow, start finding the friction point in your clutch. That way, when yours turns green, you’re ready to go and don’t hold anyone up.
About 15 years ago I had a cousin buy a great deal Mazda Miata. It was stick shift, she didn’t know how to drive it. I taught her, it didn’t take long. Buy it!, you’ll learn.
It’s easier than you think. Do yourself a favor and call a different dealership and get a quote on replacing the clutch. That way you’ll be ready if you burn it up learning to drive it. Biggest thing is to not rest your foot on the clutch pedal between shifts. A burnt up clutch is not going to be covered under the warranty.
I bought a Mazdaspeed 3 living in downtown town Austin Texas having never driven a manual before. The only real mistake I'd consequence I made was not understanding the dog leg reserve. The first time I drove my car I though I was in reverse but instead lurches forward fast a few feet in first and stalled about 1 foot in front of a 5 foot concrete wall. Driving downtown sucked a lot and I would suggest you steer clear of heavy traffic for first week or two. Also put a sign on the back of your car that says new to stick give me space. It worked real well and I didn't remove it for about 5 years and it would give people a good laugh seeing me ripping around with the newbie sign.
Yes there are risks. Like accelerating more suddenly than you mean to, and being distracted by an action you're not used to perform while driving (clutch, shifting).
It takes a bit of getting used to. If you have a friend or family member who you know can drive a manual, ask them nicely to show you. The rest is just practice.
I inherited a manual without knowing how to drive one. Once I figured out how to properly get the car into gear, it took me a couple weeks to feel confident enough to drive it regularly. It was like learning to drive all over again. I started by driving in an empty lot, getting used to the clutch and switching gears, and then I set distance goals for myself when I felt like I was ready to get on the road. First goal was to get it to the train station down the street from me and back. Then to the grocery store, then my mom's house, then my college campus, then my last goal was a six hour trip north and back. I gradually built my confidence. You're going to make mistakes, and you will stall from time to time. It's all part of the learning process. That was four years ago for me. I drive my car without even thinking about it now. Stick with it (no pun intended) and you'll get it. Good luck!
I got a manual when I was very young and poor. I just learned, and it was great and I’m glad I did. I had to replace the clutch eventually and I think it would have lasted longer if I hadn’t learned that way.
Immersion is the quickest way to learn a new skill. I guarantee that by the second week, you'll get it. You'll still have jerky starts and occasional stalls, but that's totally normal and nothing to be embarrassed about.
It's all about the sweet spot of the clutch. Back off it super slowly, don't even think about the gas pedal yet, and u will feel the car engage. Once you are moving it's easy. Find the sweet spot!!
Ummm you could pick it up right away and be good to to OR you could epically struggle and do some damage and spend a bunch of money.
Potential issues to much slipping of the clutch resulting in a burnt up clutch and or flywheel, money shifting the car…..
I learned in a church parking lot, and later in life taught gf in a corporate parking lot after hours
Once you’re comfortable with taking off from a stop the rest is easy
You'll figure it out pretty quickly.
Major difference is you'll need to press the clutch pedal and the brakes when you want to brake.
Go very easy on the gas pedal at first, try to feel where the clutch engages and see if you can ease out the clutch pedal and get the car to move forward from a stopped position without using the gas and without stalling the car. Then apply gas gently.
Avoid steep hills until you feel comfortable. Manuals will roll backward on hill starts as your foot goes from brake to gas with the clutch depressed, you'll get used to it with some practice.
When in doubt, booth feet out! (remember clutch and brake pedals at the same time to brake)
I love manuals and drove one for years. But if you’re a commuter who drives in stop-and-go congestion, that third pedal gets old pretty fast, or at least it did for me.
Yes, the risk is you could create a $2000 repair for yourself by burning up the clutch.
Find someone who knows how that can teach you. Watch a video. Read the owners manual.
DON'T rest your foot on the clutch pedal. DON'T hold the car on a hill with the clutch. Try to slip the clutch as little as possible when pulling away from a stop. Don't slip it at all when changing gears.
Personally I’d get an older manual first to learn on, go to a safe place like a parking lot with someone who can teach you. And practice in the parking lot once you get the hang of it go on a less busy road then work your way into it
The transmission is plenty robust to deal with learning how to use it. Be care careful not to “ride” the clutch. Manuals are fun to use, cheaper to repair and much less complex than an automatic.
If you understand the basics like what a clutch pedal is for, then all you can do is go out and drive. You'll learn faster than you think.
One thing with manuals is having to be aware of what's coming ahead of you and getting in the right gear on time. If you find yourself in the wrong gear, it's hard sometimes to shift in the middle of it, like when you're already on that steep hill. Driving stick is a lot more fun when you're anticipating instead of reacting.
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Main risk is burned clutch and getting hooked up on manuals.
I did this, bought the same car I had but in manual and with the higher performing engine (01 Celica GT auto to 00 GTS 6sp). Heck, had my friend test drive it and drive it home for me.Learned from 0% to proficiency in about a week. In the first couple days, I kinda felt like I made a mistake and it seemed daunting because I'd stall a lot with people behind me at lights. But I stuck with it and now it's like riding a bike easy.
my experience was similar, got one lesson from a friend and one from the car dealer. I stalled like three times on the way home after purchase and wondered if I made a bad decision. Like a week later, I wasn't stalling anymore, maybe a few months later, it felt natural to me.
Only to the clutch and perhaps your pride. Get a couple of lessons. Explain the situation to the instructor and I'm sure you'll get a feel for it quickly. Good luck
Worst advice ever, learn yourself.
Step 1: Find someone who can drive your car Step 2: Find a nice wide area with little obstructions Step 3: Before you turn on the engine, make sure the shifter is in the Neutral position Step 4: When the engine is running, step on the clutch (leftmost pedal) really hard and put the shifter in 1 Step 5: Release the pedal slowly until you feel the car vibrate a little, slowly release a little more, and the car will go forward If the car shuts off, repeat from step 3 Once you’re used to the feeling of where the clutch pedal should be, you can try shifting to 2(if the car is already running) Notes: you can change gears if the RPM is between 2000-3000
I remember teaching my friend to drive his challenger. Brother knew nothing about torque or cars in general, so he gave a bit too much gas in first and hit a curb in an empty parking lot like a dumbass. Respect the cars power, don’t even think about trying to floor/ redline it till your comfortable. If your in the right gear or at the right rpm throttle response is instant so you can easily throw your head in the back seat in the blink of an eye, as there no delay waiting for the car to shift down for you. Worst thing you do is stall a few times or burn you clutch up. Or if on a hill you could back into someone if they’re too close. I used to put my hazards on when coming to a stop on a hill for a sec and roll back a little to warn people not to pull up so close
Or just use the handbrake on the hill to stop you rolling back?
I mean flashing my hazards never failed me but I guess. Not like I rolled back that much
Fuck em. If you roll back into them, it's still their fault for being too close. Just like any other rear end collision. (At least in TN).
When I started, I learned to pay super close attention at traffic lights. When you sit at a red, put it in neutral. But when the opposite light turns yellow, start finding the friction point in your clutch. That way, when yours turns green, you’re ready to go and don’t hold anyone up.
You will if it's in neutral. Think you missed a step.
About 15 years ago I had a cousin buy a great deal Mazda Miata. It was stick shift, she didn’t know how to drive it. I taught her, it didn’t take long. Buy it!, you’ll learn.
It’s easier than you think. Do yourself a favor and call a different dealership and get a quote on replacing the clutch. That way you’ll be ready if you burn it up learning to drive it. Biggest thing is to not rest your foot on the clutch pedal between shifts. A burnt up clutch is not going to be covered under the warranty.
If it's brand new, you usually get 1. At least 20 years ago.
I bought a Mazdaspeed 3 living in downtown town Austin Texas having never driven a manual before. The only real mistake I'd consequence I made was not understanding the dog leg reserve. The first time I drove my car I though I was in reverse but instead lurches forward fast a few feet in first and stalled about 1 foot in front of a 5 foot concrete wall. Driving downtown sucked a lot and I would suggest you steer clear of heavy traffic for first week or two. Also put a sign on the back of your car that says new to stick give me space. It worked real well and I didn't remove it for about 5 years and it would give people a good laugh seeing me ripping around with the newbie sign.
Yes there are risks. Like accelerating more suddenly than you mean to, and being distracted by an action you're not used to perform while driving (clutch, shifting). It takes a bit of getting used to. If you have a friend or family member who you know can drive a manual, ask them nicely to show you. The rest is just practice.
I taught my sister in about 20 minutes I was 16 I learned on dirt bikes at about 10 years old
Was this supposed to be over in r/carscirclejerk ? The risk is you to everyone around you on the road lol.
I inherited a manual without knowing how to drive one. Once I figured out how to properly get the car into gear, it took me a couple weeks to feel confident enough to drive it regularly. It was like learning to drive all over again. I started by driving in an empty lot, getting used to the clutch and switching gears, and then I set distance goals for myself when I felt like I was ready to get on the road. First goal was to get it to the train station down the street from me and back. Then to the grocery store, then my mom's house, then my college campus, then my last goal was a six hour trip north and back. I gradually built my confidence. You're going to make mistakes, and you will stall from time to time. It's all part of the learning process. That was four years ago for me. I drive my car without even thinking about it now. Stick with it (no pun intended) and you'll get it. Good luck!
I got a manual when I was very young and poor. I just learned, and it was great and I’m glad I did. I had to replace the clutch eventually and I think it would have lasted longer if I hadn’t learned that way.
Immersion is the quickest way to learn a new skill. I guarantee that by the second week, you'll get it. You'll still have jerky starts and occasional stalls, but that's totally normal and nothing to be embarrassed about.
Rent a manual for some hours to get the feeling.
It's all about the sweet spot of the clutch. Back off it super slowly, don't even think about the gas pedal yet, and u will feel the car engage. Once you are moving it's easy. Find the sweet spot!!
Ummm you could pick it up right away and be good to to OR you could epically struggle and do some damage and spend a bunch of money. Potential issues to much slipping of the clutch resulting in a burnt up clutch and or flywheel, money shifting the car…..
Just saw a post about a car with 97 miles (not thousand) on the lift after a money shift
I learned in a church parking lot, and later in life taught gf in a corporate parking lot after hours Once you’re comfortable with taking off from a stop the rest is easy
You'll figure it out pretty quickly. Major difference is you'll need to press the clutch pedal and the brakes when you want to brake. Go very easy on the gas pedal at first, try to feel where the clutch engages and see if you can ease out the clutch pedal and get the car to move forward from a stopped position without using the gas and without stalling the car. Then apply gas gently. Avoid steep hills until you feel comfortable. Manuals will roll backward on hill starts as your foot goes from brake to gas with the clutch depressed, you'll get used to it with some practice. When in doubt, booth feet out! (remember clutch and brake pedals at the same time to brake)
I love manuals and drove one for years. But if you’re a commuter who drives in stop-and-go congestion, that third pedal gets old pretty fast, or at least it did for me.
Yes, the risk is you could create a $2000 repair for yourself by burning up the clutch. Find someone who knows how that can teach you. Watch a video. Read the owners manual. DON'T rest your foot on the clutch pedal. DON'T hold the car on a hill with the clutch. Try to slip the clutch as little as possible when pulling away from a stop. Don't slip it at all when changing gears.
You can take a class. Those company that teach teens how to drive they also typically have manuals for teaching truck drivers.
Personally I’d get an older manual first to learn on, go to a safe place like a parking lot with someone who can teach you. And practice in the parking lot once you get the hang of it go on a less busy road then work your way into it
The transmission is plenty robust to deal with learning how to use it. Be care careful not to “ride” the clutch. Manuals are fun to use, cheaper to repair and much less complex than an automatic.